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My Morning Jacket => The Music => Topic started by: dragonboy on Feb 15, 2008, 11:39 AM

Title: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: dragonboy on Feb 15, 2008, 11:39 AM
...you might not like the new album?

Before you post all sorts of silliness like 'how dare you! & that's blasphemy!' consider this...

For me a good example is DBT. They were my 2nd fav band just behind the Jacket & after Southern Rock Opera & Decoration Day I thought they could do no wrong but they completely lost my interest for a couple of years with The Dirty South & A Blessing & A Curse. They've pulled me back in hook, line & sinker with their new album but the fact of the matter is there's a chance that sooner or later Jim & the boys are going to put out an album that you just don't dig as much as the last one.

...who knows? maybe they're due a clunker?  ;)
Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: Jon T. on Feb 15, 2008, 11:48 AM
Okee doke.  Now you've done it.  Go to bed, man.

;D
Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: dragonboy on Feb 15, 2008, 11:53 AM
Fair enough Sir, see you tomorrow  ;D
Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: Jon T. on Feb 15, 2008, 12:01 PM
May you dream of gelled up, nicely tanned gangstas.
Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: cmccubbin@work on Feb 15, 2008, 01:01 PM
i have considered that..and it scares the hell outta me!
Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: easy jim on Feb 15, 2008, 01:17 PM
I've considered that Evil Urges will f'in smelt my mind with musical alchemy.

Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: aMD on Feb 15, 2008, 03:20 PM
Quotei have considered that..and it scares the hell outta me!

yeah, curtis and i were kicking around this idea on pms.  I worried more about Z then I do with this record.  With Z they were coming off it still moves which included a lot of songs that were already in the bag like One Big Holiday and I Will Sing You Songs so I was a little worried that Jim's creative well may have run dry. Z convinced me that that will never be the case.  I don't know what to expect with evil urges either but I'd say I'm more excited than scared.  


I was about to say that Jim wouldn't put out anything bad but then I just remember the picture disc that was recently released...  uh oh.  :-/  Okay, NOW I'm worried.
Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: The DARK on Feb 15, 2008, 11:46 PM
First off, that picture disc was hilarious, for charity, and not a true release.  ;)

But it really doesn't bother me. Most bands have songs that just somehow "fit in" without doing anything much. MMJ do not write those songs. Listen to Okonokos for proof. After 4 LPs, if they have that many absolutely true blue 5-star rock epics (at least 15 of those songs are, and at least 10 more not on that album), they have no reason not to make more, especially after spending basically all of 2007 writing and recording the album.

Not to mention that I have a good feeling about Jim following his "Evil Urges".  ;D
Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: ManNamedTruth on Feb 16, 2008, 03:18 AM
i think most bands that have done a lot of albums eventually start to lose it. its hard to stay that consistent. i don't think MMJ is near that point and have several great ones to come.
Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: Chills on Feb 16, 2008, 08:20 AM
Quotethe fact of the matter is there's a chance that sooner or later Jim & the boys are going to put out an album that you just don't dig as much as the last one.

It's not only a chance, it's an inevitability.

few to none artist bring out 10 records in a row without one which sucks, or one which you just don't like as much as the others.

I will take no offense with say, a mediocre record. I can reach back to the old ones, or play some other artists and sit back for the next one.



Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: The Big Come Up on Feb 16, 2008, 09:56 AM
Well, the way I look at it, if Jeff Tweedy and Wilco can put out 6 great albums, i'm sure Jim and the rest of the boys can. I see a lot of parallels between the two, for A.M. is a modest debut (much like the TTF), Being There expanded their sound immensely (just like At Dawn), Summerteeth involved an evolving sound (It Still Moves), and then their fourth album, YHF, completely changed the game (much like Z did). So, this will be MMJ's A Ghost is Born, and that sure is a good record, different, but good. I'm not too worried.
Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: LEATHER KID on Feb 16, 2008, 11:11 AM
QuoteWell, the way I look at it, if Jeff Tweedy and Wilco can put out 6 great albums, i'm sure Jim and the rest of the boys can. I see a lot of parallels between the two, for A.M. is a modest debut (much like the TTF), Being There expanded their sound immensely (just like At Dawn), Summerteeth involved an evolving sound (It Still Moves), and then their fourth album, YHF, completely changed the game (much like Z did). So, this will be MMJ's A Ghost is Born, and that sure is a good record, different, but good. I'm not too worried.

Cool comparison.
"That's a bold strategy Cotton, let's see if it pays off." :)
Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: easy jim on Feb 16, 2008, 01:03 PM
QuoteWell, the way I look at it, if Jeff Tweedy and Wilco can put out 6 great albums, i'm sure Jim and the rest of the boys can. I see a lot of parallels between the two, for A.M. is a modest debut (much like the TTF), Being There expanded their sound immensely (just like At Dawn), Summerteeth involved an evolving sound (It Still Moves), and then their fourth album, YHF, completely changed the game (much like Z did). So, this will be MMJ's A Ghost is Born, and that sure is a good record, different, but good. I'm not too worried.

that's my thinking

Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: aMD on Feb 16, 2008, 02:39 PM
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Quotethe fact of the matter is there's a chance that sooner or later Jim & the boys are going to put out an album that you just don't dig as much as the last one.

It's not only a chance, it's an inevitability.

few to none artist bring out 10 records in a row without one which sucks, or one which you just don't like as much as the others.

I will take no offense with say, a mediocre record. I can reach back to the old ones, or play some other artists and sit back for the next one.




Very good points.  But I hope we're all pleasantly surprised.

I am highly anticipating it though and have no idea what to expect as they haven't been playing their new material, he only songs they have played don't sound like they belong on an album called evil urges.  And it's called evil urges. ?????
Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: dragonboy on Feb 16, 2008, 08:11 PM
Lots of good points. I like the Wilco comparison & I don't think the boys are due a bad album yet but I do think the next couple of albums will divide some fans, especially if Jim goes in the Hip-Hop/RnB/Funk direction that he's been threating to for a while now  ;)  

Let's see if they can compete with Bob Dylan's run of nine incredible albums before releasing his first (disputable?) clunker - Self Portrait.
Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: aMD on Feb 16, 2008, 08:26 PM
QuoteLots of good points. I like the Wilco comparison & I don't think the boys are due a bad album yet but I do think the next couple of albums will divide some fans, especially if Jim goes in the Hip-Hop/RnB/Funk direction that he's been threating to for a while now  ;)  

Let's see if they can compete with Bob Dylan's run of nine incredible albums before releasing his first (disputable?) clunker - Self Portrait.

thems big shoes to fill.

btw, imo, neil young released 15 albums under his name before delivering a clunker (re-ac-tor). again with the shoes
Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: aMD on Feb 16, 2008, 08:27 PM
woah, db, we were thinking the same thing at the same time! cheers, brother!

EDIT: where'd your post go?
Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: dragonboy on Feb 16, 2008, 08:29 PM
Quotebtw, imo, neil young released 15 albums under his name before delivering a clunker (re-ac-tor). again with the shoes
Here's hoping the Jacket never sign with Geffen  ;D

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Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: dragonboy on Feb 16, 2008, 08:29 PM
Quotewoah, db, we were thinking the same thing at the same time! cheers, brother!

EDIT: where'd your post go?
Sorry, the LP pictures were too big...just reposted  :)
Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: BH on Feb 16, 2008, 09:42 PM
I'll put it right next to the shitty Zeppelin album I have.  Oh wait, there wasn't one!

One thing I can guarantee, is that some people won't like it after only listening to it once.  Just like Z.
Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: dragonboy on Feb 16, 2008, 10:22 PM
QuoteI'll put it right next to the shitty Zeppelin album I have.  Oh wait, there wasn't one!
Hmm. Shitty Zeppelin album? No. But can you honestly say you like/listen to Presence or In Through the Out Door as much as the first 6 albums? When you think, OK I'm going to play a LZ album, are those the ones you usually grab?
& let us not forget that Led Zeppelin's life was cut short prematurely. Had John Bonham (RIP) not died & the band continued I doubt that their 80s input would have stood up against their earlier work.

Like I said, just so long as they stay away from Geffen  ;)

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Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: no, you are on Feb 19, 2008, 04:25 PM
i'm not worried at all. quality breeds quality. i dig all the material so far. some songs are better than others. with that said i'm sure there will be songs i llike and others that have to grow on me. but all in all not liking the record just won't happen. it wouldn't take this long to put out a flop.
Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: Angry Ewok on Feb 19, 2008, 06:52 PM
I would be shocked if this album wasn't their absolute best to date. They'll win a Grammy or something.
Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: cmccubbin@work on Feb 20, 2008, 08:39 AM
QuoteI would be shocked if this album wasn't their absolute best to date. They'll win a Grammy or something.

that's the way i feel....its either going to be the best album to date or just totally disappoint (which i think it would take a lot to disappoint us!!!).
Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: LEATHER KID on Feb 20, 2008, 12:48 PM
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QuoteI would be shocked if this album wasn't their absolute best to date. They'll win a Grammy or something.

that's the way i feel....its either going to be the best album to date or just totally disappoint (which i think it would take a lot to disappoint us!!!).
True Dat..Double true
Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: megalicious on Feb 21, 2008, 04:07 PM
i'm pretty sure this new album will melt our faces off. that is, the remnants of our faces that have not yet been melted by previous jacket shows.
Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: Crispy on Feb 21, 2008, 05:45 PM
The Led Zeppelin analogy is the most correctest! I think Presence is awesome, Bonham's work on that one is incredible. As for Wilco, I love everything they've released, but I'm pretty underwhelmed by Sky Blue Sky. Anybody else?

/nice Caribou, that girl
Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: Jon T. on Apr 18, 2008, 01:11 PM
I think it's fairly safe to say we don't have to worry about his anymore.  :)
Title: Re: Have You Considered The Notion That...
Post by: Kimbos_Evil_Bread on Apr 18, 2008, 01:16 PM
QuoteI would be shocked if this album wasn't their absolute best to date. They'll win a Grammy or something.

I agree.  my spidy sense says this album will have a lot of cross-over appeal for people outside their fanbase.  And the marketing behind it without it being released yet is always a good sign that those that have heard it as an advance copy dig it.