Albums leak. They all do, it was bound to happen. However, I cant help but feel a little bit embarrassed and sad for the band. The fact that it was so publicly shared here yesterday on the bands OFFICIAL website is disgusting. IMO both of the threads with people begging for PMs should be deleted entirely.
I am posting to remind people that there are other ways to support the band bedsides buying their music. Here are some of them.
Buy some merch:
http://mymorningjacket.shop.musictoday.com/
Go to a show:
http://www.ticketmaster.com/artist/841284
http://mymorningjacket.com/shows.html
Buy a pre-Order of Evil Urges:
http://www.amazon.com/Evil-Urges-My-Morning-Jacket/dp/B0017PB5TW/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1208784878&sr=8-1
http://shop.mtv.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=43158560
I plan on giving my favorite band plenty of my cash this summer. The album will be bought as well as tickets for at least two shows. I was weak, but I will not let the band down because they worked their ASSES off for this record.
I feel bad for our moderator, who had to stay up all fucking night deleting links to the leak.
were there any links posted in the threads? I don't remember seeing any.
I know leaks are bound to happen, but the balls of people to come to this of all places bragging about it...makes me sick. The played a show that popped up with more than 1/2 the tracks on the new album played LIVE, release Touch Me on NPR, and let people download Evil Urges..and that doesn't suffice. EVIL URGES
wow...i miss all the good stuff by not getting on during the weekend!
i will also spend plenty of cash on the band...already bought tix to Louisville and NYC shows.
will buy the CD at local record store as well as the vinyl when it comes out and maybe the iTunes download if they offer an extra song.
will buy a new shirt and a new shirt for my lady friend at the shows.
will go to as many shows as possible in the Fall U.S. tour!!!
QuoteI know leaks are bound to happen, but the balls of people to come to this of all places bragging about it...makes me sick. The played a show that popped up with more than 1/2 the tracks on the new album played LIVE, release Touch Me on NPR, and let people download Evil Urges..and that doesn't suffice. EVIL URGES
what exactly happened yesterday?
i just think we owe them more respect than to go crazy over a leak--when they've already expressed to us (pretty clearly, too) that they want us to wait until the release date.
that's a way to support the band: repect their wishes.
QuoteQuoteI know leaks are bound to happen, but the balls of people to come to this of all places bragging about it...makes me sick. The played a show that popped up with more than 1/2 the tracks on the new album played LIVE, release Touch Me on NPR, and let people download Evil Urges..and that doesn't suffice. EVIL URGES
what exactly happened yesterday?
someone informed us there was a leak and people began pass it around on pms. a link was never posted on the forum as far as i know.
you all can rake me and other zealous fans over the coals all you want. I don't really feel like getting in a fight about it, but I'll just leave you with this:
"The world today is such a confused place. Things that people think are good values are obviously twisted, but there are other things considered evil that obviously aren't. There is real evil out there, but "Evil Urges" is about how
all of these things that you've been told are evil really aren't, unless they're actually hurting something or somebody." -Jim James
i think we all got the same email, but here's what the band had to say about the leaks:
"gosh darn-it, we're still a little old fashioned in that way of wanting the listener to be able to get the actual music when it is supposed to be released, when we say it is finished- not when someone else puts it on the interweb.... but it is the 90's now, we understand that. it's a new decade and we want to be part of this decade, but whilst still maintaining a link to the past - where one can't necessarily get everything they want immediately when they want it, but rather when they are told they can have it - by their real life keeper or their digital daddy!"
QuoteQuoteI know leaks are bound to happen, but the balls of people to come to this of all places bragging about it...makes me sick. The played a show that popped up with more than 1/2 the tracks on the new album played LIVE, release Touch Me on NPR, and let people download Evil Urges..and that doesn't suffice. EVIL URGES
what exactly happened yesterday?
I also missed what went on...did the album leak some more?
I understand supporting the band is important, but I honestly don't think MMJ makes their money from their albums. Bands like MMJ, or Phish, or the Grateful Dead (live bands) make most of their money from touring. So don't feel too bad for them if there was a leak, just go to one of their shows and that will more than make up for it. They don't see most of the money from albums anyway, the label gets it.
Look, just to be clear, I'm not going to knock anyone for downloading. I just don't want to open my Christmas gift in November. I did that once back 87 and it sucked. And to be fair, let's just not make this website the place where it gets spread, eh?
same here. i mean, i'm not going to look down on anyone for dowloading it. i want to hear this new ablum really effin bad (times five), but i'm going to wait until it's legit because that's what they've asked us to do.
There is no reason for this to turn into another lame debate about sharing music. Everyone has their own opinions and thats fine. I am sure everyone would agree that publicly sharing the new album on the bands own forum is a slap in the face to them. If you want to get it, at least do it on your own dime. The band has to pay for this bandwidth.
i respect that. i have no problem with people who say, I want to wait for the real thing or are still old-fashioned like Jim and like to read the linear notes and whatnot when they get the new CD. just don't tell me that I'm ripping off the band or not supporting because I listen to an album that I'm going to buy a few times over a few months early. i think we can all agree that downloading the album and not buying it is wrong and disrespectful to the boys, but that's really beside the point. Plenty of people will do that after June 10 as well.
There WAS a link posted... but it disappeared pretty quickly.
QuoteThere WAS a link posted... but it disappeared pretty quickly.
I'd say it was up for 30 minutes tops. Long enough to cause quite a commotion.
This is really sad. The Digital Age is completely fucking with the music industry, and artists. I feel so bad for the band, especially after having sent the email around telling people that they want the album to be heard once it's finally released. I for one am holding out till June 10.
Leaks simply hurt the artists, and the fans. Now, I have to tip toe around this forum until the album comes out, because I don't want the joy and surprises of Evil Urges to be ruined for me before I get the album on its release date.
I am so excited to hold Evil Urges in my hands, pop it in the CD player, and listen for the first time while I flip through the booklet. That's how the traditions of music should be kept.
QuoteThis is really sad. The Digital Age is completely fucking with the music industry, and artists. I feel so bad for the band, especially after having sent the email around telling people that they want the album to be heard once it's finally released. I for one am holding out till June 10.
Leaks simply hurt the artists, and the fans. Now, I have to tip toe around this forum until the album comes out, because I don't want the joy and surprises of Evil Urges to be ruined for me before I get the album on its release date.
I am so excited to hold Evil Urges in my hands, pop it in the CD player, and listen for the first time while I flip through the booklet. That's how the traditions of music should be kept.
the digital age has helped this band and many others who would not have been able to break into the music scene, especially not on an international level, in the old way. You really think it'd be better if we had a bunch of stuffed-suits deciding what people like? Don't forget that mmj is taper and trader friendly which is mainly done digitally these days. the band makes the majority of their money touring. the more people hear their music the more people come to their shows. i don't see how you could possibly think the digital age hurts artists unless you're a big fan of groups conceived by record execs and shoved down our throats via clear channel.
EDIT: I agree that the digital age is fucking over record companies but that may be karma for years of fucking over artists and suppressing good music.
QuoteQuoteThis is really sad. The Digital Age is completely fucking with the music industry, and artists. I feel so bad for the band, especially after having sent the email around telling people that they want the album to be heard once it's finally released. I for one am holding out till June 10.
Leaks simply hurt the artists, and the fans. Now, I have to tip toe around this forum until the album comes out, because I don't want the joy and surprises of Evil Urges to be ruined for me before I get the album on its release date.
I am so excited to hold Evil Urges in my hands, pop it in the CD player, and listen for the first time while I flip through the booklet. That's how the traditions of music should be kept.
the digital age has helped this band and many others who would not have been able to break into the music scene, especially not on an international level, in the old way. You really think it'd be better if we had a bunch of stuffed-suits deciding what people like? Don't forget that mmj is taper and trader friendly which is mainly done digitally these days. the band makes the majority of their money touring. the more people hear their music the more people come to their shows. i don't see how you could possibly think the digital age hurts artists unless you're a big fan of groups convinced by record execs and shoved down our throats via clear channel.
You're completely right. I should of said that there are definitely negative aspects to the Digital Age that really screw over bands. But it does help to spread the awareness of bands, and such, that's true. I just hate how along with that, things like the internet have made album leaks such a common thing.
Edit* and by the digital age hurting bands, I mean more of on an emotional level, because MMJ obviously did not want their album leaking. They essentially blatantly stated that in the email they sent people.
RESPECT is a tricky thing, it appears. It means a lot of things, for sure, but it certainly doesn't provide anywhere inside of itself for you to pick and choose what you will and what you won't respect for someone. To respect someone is to respect their wishes 100% (unless it's doing harm somewhere). As far as I can see, this leak has done no one harm, and NOT listening to this leak has not done anyone harm. So, if we were to respect a band's request (especially one that we all claim to love so dearly!) to not listen to a leak of an album that will be released in full beautiful glory before June 10th, then dear God, what part of that doesn't make sense? Did Patrick hand you a burned copy and tell you to enjoy? Then by all means, DO! But if he didn't, the only reason you have it is probably because he gave it to a close friend, who didn't quite listen to the "keep this under serious wraps" part of the conversation.
No digital trading qualms at all here. What this is about is respecting what the band has asked us for. Respecting what the band has not only asked us for, but has given us FREE GOODIES in compensation for! That "Evil Urges" mp3 was not a "hey! this is a preview of what you can illegally download in a couple days!"-- it was a great big Thank You for having patience! with a reward for doing so and helping to not spread any leakage around.
Come on.
no, you're right, tom. i have no respect for the band. once again you've nailed it! ::)
Quoteno, you're right, tom. i have no respect for the band. once again you've nailed it! ::)
okay, you're sarcasm points out a large weakness in Tom's post. Obviously you have respect for the band, just not much of it.
QuoteQuoteno, you're right, tom. i have no respect for the band. once again you've nailed it! ::)
okay, you're sarcasm points out a large weakness in Tom's post. Obviously you have respect for the band, just not much of it.
no, I actually despise them. that's why I steal from them every chance I can. I want them to fail because they're not worth of my respect, obviously.
QuoteQuoteQuoteno, you're right, tom. i have no respect for the band. once again you've nailed it! ::)
okay, you're sarcasm points out a large weakness in Tom's post. Obviously you have respect for the band, just not much of it.
no, I actually despise them. that's why I steal from them every chance I can. I want them to fail because they're not worth of my respect, obviously.
man, thats horrible. jim james is gonna come cut you in your sleep
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteno, you're right, tom. i have no respect for the band. once again you've nailed it! ::)
okay, you're sarcasm points out a large weakness in Tom's post. Obviously you have respect for the band, just not much of it.
no, I actually despise them. that's why I steal from them every chance I can. I want them to fail because they're not worth of my respect, obviously.
man, thats horrible. jim james is gonna come cut you in your sleep
jim james couldn't cut line in an old folks home!
Great thread, and I really agree. I was also embarrassed by people giving their reviews "(with spoilers)" to the record. It was a disgrace.
This happens to almost all albums these days. We are all here because we love this band. Why would you want to brag or talk about the record knowing the band is against what is happening and probably upset about the process. I imagine it hurts to see something you want to share with everyone just ripped from you and given out before you want it to.
Because we are all huge fans it's instinct to try to hear the album. But there are ways to go about it. A lot of new fans are going to be coming to this site over the next few months because of all the hype the band is getting. I think it's a bad representation of us when all those threads are around. Be mature. This is the only music site I go to because everyone here is so cool and everyone treats each other with so much respect. Yet some of you do not realize how much you are disrespecting the band. Lets talk about how great the album is on June 10th. Christ, if we start reviewing it now it's going to be a dead subject before everyone even gets to hear it.
If you have heard the album, you should feel guilty about it. I know if I had the chance to hear it I would, I can't wait for the album and a tour. But really, if you have it, just shut up and keep it to yourself and don't ruin it for the people that are doing the right thing and waiting for it.
I am not trying to hate on anyone that has it, it happens. I'm just saying I don't think it needs to be discussed openly.
That's my .02
tom, i totally agree with you.
the boys asked us not to support leaked versions of the album. i mean, i thought it was pretty clear that they weren't cool with it, so, as a fan, i would try to do what they've asked of me.
if they hadn't issued a statement, there might be an issue to debate. but they did, so... i would say that settles it.
QuoteQuoteThere WAS a link posted... but it disappeared pretty quickly.
I'd say it was up for 30 minutes tops. Long enough to cause quite a commotion.
Yeah I saw one.
There were no less than three links posted.
jock straps are a really good way to support the band.
or maybe a dance belt for bo. he's always seemed a little more like a dance belt kind of a guy to me.
i mean that, of course, in the BEST way possible. i'm just trying to be really supportive, here.