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Title: Evil Urges is a concept album?
Post by: RockNRollJunkie on Sep 01, 2008, 08:48 PM
Could you say EU is a concept album? It seems like that to me, or similar to one. It deffinately tells a story. Once I had all the lyrics infront of me in sequential order I had a new apreciation for the album. the song Evil Urges seems to be like an overture... Maybe everyone else knows all this and im just late on it.
But I'm curious. If you go look at the songs in order, what story does it tell you personally?

(remnants is the most interesting to me. I don't really like the song but the lyrics boggle my mind)
Title: Re:  Evil Urges is a concept album?
Post by: The DARK on Sep 01, 2008, 09:52 PM
It's not like it's a rock opera or anything. But there was definitely a masterplan here. Evil Urges an overture, Touch Me 1 and 2 the bookends, and Two Halves the centerpiece; you could think about it that way. There's a whole theme of two-becomes-one throughout.
Title: Re:  Evil Urges is a concept album?
Post by: DaFunkyPrecedent on Sep 02, 2008, 01:27 AM
it has an old meets new feel for me...


Title: Re:  Evil Urges is a concept album?
Post by: j_rud on Sep 02, 2008, 09:11 AM
I think "concept album" is a misunderstood phrase. You could go into the album making process with a few ideas (concepts) in mind and follow through on those, but still not have a unifying theme or universal thread that binds it all together.

For instance, I think the most obvious concept on Evil Urges is incorporating more soulful, R&B-ish elements. That can be heard everywhere, from the synth's to Jims voice on many of the tracks.

I think if there is a concept as far as subject matter I think its love and human connection. Love of self, love of others, and as the track Evill Urges suggests an openness and tolerance of things we might not be familiar with (including love).

So, do I think there is a story to be told on Evil Urges, complete with characters and a plot? Nahh, I dont. But do I think there is a somewhat coherent message, as well as consistent musical themes? Definitely. Not sure if that clears anything up, thats just my take on it.
Title: Re:  Evil Urges is a concept album?
Post by: freeport on Sep 02, 2008, 12:24 PM
I picked up on a theme of human connection as well. There's also a non-human/robot thing going on too. It seems like there's a world full of everything anyone could want with underlying need for basic human interaction. It's a futuristic setting to me. I dig.
Title: Re:  Evil Urges is a concept album?
Post by: DaFunkyPrecedent on Sep 02, 2008, 02:09 PM
It's a story of Jim James searching, longing, loving, wondering, questioning etc.  This album has a more "personal" feel to it than the other albums.  One can really connect to the life and times of Jim.  

I like the idea though Evil Urges is the overture.  
Title: Re:  Evil Urges is a concept album?
Post by: The DARK on Sep 02, 2008, 09:59 PM
QuoteI picked up on a theme of human connection as well. There's also a non-human/robot thing going on too. It seems like there's a world full of everything anyone could want with underlying need for basic human interaction. It's a futuristic setting to me. I dig.

Yeah, I'm feeling that, too. It seems like he did a really good job of getting the themes across this time around.
Title: Re:  Evil Urges is a concept album?
Post by: The DARK on Sep 02, 2008, 10:00 PM
Almost forgot the obligatory post for this thread...  ;)

Evil Urges > Tommy
Title: Re:  Evil Urges is a concept album?
Post by: YouAre_GivenToFly on Sep 02, 2008, 10:42 PM
QuoteAlmost forgot the obligatory post for this thread...  ;)

Evil Urges > Tommy

whoa.... that's bold.
Title: Re:  Evil Urges is a concept album?
Post by: j_rud on Sep 02, 2008, 11:06 PM
QuoteAlmost forgot the obligatory post for this thread...  ;)

Evil Urges > Tommy
Only someone who has never truly immersed themselves in the Who could make that statement. I dont hold Tommy in as high regard as some Who fans, but its still a landmark album. Its not as good as Quadrophenia, which is my favorite album of all time. And if you start tossing out "evil urges>quadrophenia" comments, I shall challenge you to a duel.
Title: Re:  Evil Urges is a concept album?
Post by: YouAre_GivenToFly on Sep 02, 2008, 11:19 PM
Quote
QuoteAlmost forgot the obligatory post for this thread...  ;)

Evil Urges > Tommy
Only someone who has never truly immersed themselves in the Who could make that statement. I dont hold Tommy in as high regard as some Who fans, but its still a landmark album. Its not as good as Quadrophenia, which is my favorite album of all time. And if you start tossing out "evil urges>quadrophenia" comments, I shall challenge you to a duel.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3192/2814689048_406a3f8966.jpg)
Title: Re:  Evil Urges is a concept album?
Post by: bearass on Sep 02, 2008, 11:26 PM
quadrophenia>tommy
Title: Re:  Evil Urges is a concept album?
Post by: The DARK on Sep 02, 2008, 11:29 PM
Quote
QuoteAlmost forgot the obligatory post for this thread...  ;)

Evil Urges > Tommy
Only someone who has never truly immersed themselves in the Who could make that statement. I dont hold Tommy in as high regard as some Who fans, but its still a landmark album. Its not as good as Quadrophenia, which is my favorite album of all time. And if you start tossing out "evil urges>quadrophenia" comments, I shall challenge you to a duel.

I have never really understood Tommy as much as many Who fans have. It's not an album that I truly enjoy immersing myself in. Quadrophenia, however, I cannot and will not challenge. That album is the greatest rock opera .  

Though I cannot say it is in my top 5 all time, like Evil Urges is. ;)

Evil Urges is actually a lot like Sgt Peppers. It has an underlying concept. It experiments with every genre the bands could think of (really, no two songs on Evil Urges come from the same genre). They are both deeply layered with many levels of sound. And they both represent a band on a creative roll. I like Evil Urges more, however, mostly because I can relate to Jim's emotions so much. I really don't think that anyone else could have summed up the way I feel right now as well as Jim did.

I would like someone who loves Sgt. Peppers to explain to me why it is a better album than Evil Urges.
Title: Re:  Evil Urges is a concept album?
Post by: ycartrob on Sep 02, 2008, 11:33 PM
QuoteAlmost forgot the obligatory post for this thread...  ;)

Evil Urges > Tommy

maybe this Tommy, but not The Who's Tommy

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b169/flowdiggity/tommy20lasorda.jpg)
Title: Re:  Evil Urges is a concept album?
Post by: bearass on Sep 02, 2008, 11:40 PM
remember this?(http://espn.go.com/media/mlb/2001/0710/photo/r_lasorda_hi.jpg)
Title: Re:  Evil Urges is a concept album?
Post by: YouAre_GivenToFly on Sep 02, 2008, 11:44 PM
Quoteremember this?(http://espn.go.com/media/mlb/2001/0710/photo/r_lasorda_hi.jpg)

not nearly as good as this...

(http://thephoenix.com/SoxBlog/content/binary/Pedro_Zimmer2.jpg)
Title: Re:  Evil Urges is a concept album?
Post by: bearass on Sep 02, 2008, 11:46 PM
so true ;D ;D
Title: Re:  Evil Urges is a concept album?
Post by: j_rud on Sep 03, 2008, 12:45 AM
Quote
Quoteremember this?(http://espn.go.com/media/mlb/2001/0710/photo/r_lasorda_hi.jpg)

not nearly as good as this...

(http://thephoenix.com/SoxBlog/content/binary/Pedro_Zimmer2.jpg)
Zimma!
Title: Re:  Evil Urges is a concept album?
Post by: DaFunkyPrecedent on Sep 03, 2008, 04:36 AM
fat old white people falling on the ground in little baseball uniforms is hilarious.
Title: Re:  Evil Urges is a concept album?
Post by: Love Dogg on Sep 03, 2008, 10:45 AM
Quote
Quoteremember this?(http://espn.go.com/media/mlb/2001/0710/photo/r_lasorda_hi.jpg)

not nearly as good as this...

(http://thephoenix.com/SoxBlog/content/binary/Pedro_Zimmer2.jpg)

Or this!  That's how you dodge a punch.
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k311/villebillie2006/mlb_a_shields_crisp_sq_300.jpg)
Title: Re:  Evil Urges is a concept album?
Post by: CTdeadhead on Sep 05, 2008, 02:36 AM
Evil Urges is a concept album....naah!  You want concep album check out Nostrodomus by Judas Priest.   The concept destroys the CD.