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Title: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: antoniostrohs on Dec 17, 2005, 09:25 AM
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My morning hacker
By Paul Curry
Special to The Courier-Journal



My Morning Jacket's Jim James' bout with pneumonia has forced MMJ to cancel a couple of big American shows and a European tour, actions that led to fans -- fans, for cryin' out loud -- spreading rumors of drug addiction and rehab.

"That is totally not the case," said MMJ drummer Patrick Hallahan. "Jim's the one who's always eating salads and going back to his room early. That's why it's so ironic he got sick, because he's the healthiest of all of us."


  
For all you kids out there, pneumonia was once a major killer. Of people. It's bad news. It isn't unusual for a serious case to require weeks of bed rest, and James had complications that required a brief hospitalization.

"The vultures need to move on to another subject," Hallahan said.

-- Jeffrey Lee Puckett,
 
Title: Re: Today's Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Dec 17, 2005, 10:03 AM
Thanks for posting that my brotha.

Why do the vultures pick at this?  I'm ashamed.
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: wellfleet on Dec 17, 2005, 01:59 PM
ohmygod... i bet the asshole who first posted this rumour is sorry for it now. and the worst part about it is bothering jim with that tripe while he's trying to get better. that's so lame. some people just don't realize how rumours snowball out of control and start to become "the truth" as people see it.
jim, if you're reading this, i apologize for the dumb muthas who perpetuated this bull. get better soon. or take as much time as you need. xoxoxox
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: Chills on Dec 17, 2005, 03:16 PM
Hey, according to me this thing wasn't a big rumour ever. It was half-jokingly (a lame joke for sure) stated by some individuals here and as quickly dismissed.
This guy is making it bigger than it was by writing these things in a newspaper and bothering the band with it.

And then he fakes to be outraged himself  :P

Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: SMc55 on Dec 17, 2005, 05:02 PM
I agree with Chills. This was a very short lived and swiflty dealt with phenomenon on this board. The person who posted the 'joke' has apologised profusely and several times. The journalist is digging up old stuff and I say lets not perpetuate it.
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: TheLink on Dec 17, 2005, 05:49 PM
i am truely sorry because i really love this band and its' music.  this has gone on way too long and the fact that a "journalist" has even asked the band about this is quite absurd.  i do realize others don't find the same humor in that stuff, but if this is all locals can talk about, then i am quite sorry for them or anyone who wants to make a big deal out of something so stupid.  the band may already despise me and for that only i am sorry.  my remarks were explained and scrutinized by anyone who wanted to do so.  it was quite clear it was not true and just a "joke" in the sense it was in a joking manner due to what people should already assume about Jim (i had hoped).  to all those who want to really cause harm to the band by reporting this, all i can do is question those kinds of intentions.  i know what mine were and understand that i was actually wrong in my assumption.  so, sorry again to MMJ nad all that love the Jacket.  this is really all i can say about this and hope nobody has anything else to say about it as it is not worth discussing any longer.  peace.
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: corey on Dec 17, 2005, 06:25 PM
What bothers me about the situation is that if the person that decided to report that rumor got it from this board, he could have  just as easily read here that it was a joke. After I (and a couple of other people) cursed at you on the first day that you wrote it, you quickly apologized and told us that it was a joke.

That "reporter" really needs to check some facts before printing BS like that.
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: marktwain on Dec 17, 2005, 07:42 PM
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This guy is making it bigger than it was by writing these things in a newspaper and bothering the band with it.

And then he fakes to be outraged himself  :P

My thought, exactly.  "Hey, I don't have anything to write about in my column this week.  How about I blow something out of proportion?"
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: wellfleet on Dec 18, 2005, 07:28 PM
just goes to show ya, nothing you put out there stays private. of course it was shoddy reporting, lazy reporting, sensationalist reporting... but that's reality in today's media. i guarantee you that some uber-conservative group out there will take great exception to "kitten on fire/baby in a blender/all sound as sweet/as a night of surrender". crazy times are a-brewin'... i'm scared. freedom of speech and thought just isn't what it used to be.
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: TheLink on Dec 18, 2005, 09:23 PM
 ??? sure isn't.
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: freedom on Dec 18, 2005, 09:27 PM
well if your'e allowed to come here and post whatever you feel like, why isn't jlp allowed to write whatever he feels like?

or is idiocy (ie free speech, apparently) only allowed for you lot?
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: EC on Dec 18, 2005, 09:37 PM
Guys.  :)  Maybe we should just let this die, hey?  I'm sure that everybody involved in this whole stupid thing feels pretty fucking bad, and we needn't harp on it.

I say we move back to talking about Jim's WONDERFUL hair...  

;)
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: ali on Dec 18, 2005, 09:41 PM
freedom of speech is all well and good, but i think the point that people have been trying to get across (in this topic & others) is that while everyone should ALWAYS be free to express what they feel, think and believe, you do also always have to consider the rammifications of what you say and what you do. just because you CAN say something, doesn't always mean you SHOULD  :)
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: ali on Dec 18, 2005, 09:42 PM
and more importantly, i second the vote to go back to talking about how great jim's hair is!!! i don't think i've ever seen him with a bad-hair or beard day yet!! if only i had curly hair like that....  ;)
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: ali on Dec 18, 2005, 09:43 PM
not the beard, just the hair.... don't want to be no bearded lady!!!
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: EC on Dec 18, 2005, 09:48 PM
Quotenot the beard, just the hair.... don't want to be no bearded lady!!!

True, but you can make a lot of money that way...

Yeah, I've never seen him have a bad hair day, either.  I think it's unpossible.  Like, okay, even at Bonnaroo, and even though I was standing about 100 feet back, and even though there were puppets all over the place, still, even then, the ONLY think the people around me were talking about was how amazing Jim's hair was.  There was a dude behind me who passed out cold on the ground.  My brother had some gatorade, and when the dude came to, all he could say was "It's just that glorious hair.  It's so beautiful."

Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: ali on Dec 18, 2005, 10:03 PM
stunned by the beauty of the hair!!  happy as i am for jim, its kind of unfair for a bloke to have a great hair life.... my life is filled with bad hair days. as well as it being monday (which usually sucks enough all by itself) i'm having a bad fringe day  :D
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: EC on Dec 18, 2005, 10:31 PM
Quotestunned by the beauty of the hair!!  happy as i am for jim, its kind of unfair for a bloke to have a great hair life.... my life is filled with bad hair days. as well as it being monday (which usually sucks enough all by itself) i'm having a bad fringe day  :D

Blokes AND fringes all in one post.  :)

(for those of you who don't know, fringes are what we call "bangs".)

Yeah, you're right.  It's totally unfair that Jim always has such thrilling hair.  Maybe we should hate him.  ;)

You know what's good for bad hair days?  Hats.  Serious.  That's why I loooooove the winter.  

[me in the morning] "Oh fuuuuuuuck.  I guess it's a hat day."

I guess it's not winter in Australia though.  :(
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: ali on Dec 18, 2005, 10:41 PM
yeah its a bit hard to wear a beanie when its 30 degrees outside!!  :) some days do warrant extreme measures though!
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: ali on Dec 18, 2005, 10:42 PM
blokes and fringes... boys and bangs.... sounds like the start of a very baaaad song  ;D
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: American Wasteland on Dec 19, 2005, 12:14 AM
It seems to me the only person involved in this is the person who wrote the original post.  Nice avalanche, dude.  At least the entire thread, along with his odd apology, is gone.
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: EC on Dec 19, 2005, 08:32 AM
QuoteIt seems to me the only person involved in this is the person who wrote the original post.  Nice avalanche, dude.  At least the entire thread, along with his odd apology, is gone.
Thanks, American Wasteland.  It was my intention.

I'm pretty sure that going back one page is not too difficult a thing to figure out.  And as sarcastic as I feel like being right now, perhaps I'll let it go.

People are so testes these days.
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: wellfleet on Dec 19, 2005, 09:18 AM
testes?
EC... do you always have to mention balls? it's so....  :-[

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: EC on Dec 19, 2005, 09:30 AM
Quotetestes?
EC... do you always have to mention balls?
I do.  I am 8 years old, and I find rude jokes very very very funny.  ;)
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Dec 19, 2005, 09:32 AM
don't you mean....
(http://www.squealer.net/bilder/bigballs_liveandhighvoltaged.jpg)
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: EC on Dec 19, 2005, 09:35 AM
bah ha ha ha ha.  Holy.

Does everybody know the old Southpark song that goes : "Suck on my chocolate salty balls...  Put 'em in your mouth and suck 'em."

The chef sings it.

I sang it, almost like one would sing a love song, at the top of my lungs in a very public place to Mr. V the other day.

 ;D
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: marktwain on Dec 19, 2005, 09:40 AM
I've got to say one last thing:
Quotewell if your'e allowed to come here and post whatever you feel like, why isn't jlp allowed to write whatever he feels like?

or is idiocy (ie free speech, apparently) only allowed for you lot?

Professional journalists should expect to be held to a higher standard than people who post anonymously on an internet forum.
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: American Wasteland on Dec 19, 2005, 10:15 AM
To EC - I was talking about the original rehab thread, not the thread that was started one page ago so you may save your sarcasm, but thanks.

To Tundra - Surely you jest when you say professional journalists should expect to be held to a higher standard than people who post anonymously on an internet forum.  Have you looked at the newstands lately?
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: TheLink on Dec 19, 2005, 11:40 AM
waste is the amount of time we have argued this whole stupid thing.  waste is an article defending against that should have just gone unnoticed if people hadn't made such a big deal about it.  

hope some people saw my pick of the week on the letterman odds thread.  told ya Bengals would cover against those lowly Lions of Detroit.  DETROIT!  what a joke that entire city is!  oops, sorry Detroit.  you know where to send the hate mail.
Peace.
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: American Wasteland on Dec 19, 2005, 12:22 PM
I can think of another word for waste, The Link.

Happy Holidays.  OAO.
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: TheLink on Dec 19, 2005, 12:43 PM
Merry Christmas to you too.
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: EC on Dec 19, 2005, 02:21 PM
QuoteTo EC - I was talking about the original rehab thread, not the thread that was started one page ago so you may save your sarcasm, but thanks.
Whoops, sorry.  Looks like I was being the testy one.

However:

QuoteSurely you jest when you say professional journalists should expect to be held to a higher standard than people who post anonymously on an internet forum.  Have you looked at the newstands lately?
That has zero to do with this.  

Let's look at the facts:
The Link wrote something that he ended up apologizing for and regretting.  He recognized that he made a mistake and he wrote that he was joking.  

In turn, a journalist IN LOUISVILLE, where I'm sure many many family members and friends live, that fans were spreading rumours.  The journalist did NOT say where he found this information (ie on the messageboard), or that the rumours had died pretty quick.  That is fucking ridiculous.  Firstly, he made it sound like it was this really big thing, when it wasn't.  Secondly, he only wrote the "juicy" part of the story, and didn't finish it with the aftermath.

I think that's bullshit, and I completely agree with Tundra that a dude who writes for a fucking newspaper has a bit more responsibility than a dude who writes on a fan messageboard.

At least The Link is a registered member here.  I hate when people post when they're non-members.  You can't tell if they're somebody we all know who's afraid to say what they really mean, or if you're just some dude who came into the situation after the fact.

Ballz.  
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: DD on Dec 19, 2005, 02:27 PM
actually being IN the louisville "scene" to a degree, this rumor was also spreading around there.  then again there are constantly rumors about most every band and band member going throughout the louisville "scene" at any given time.  within the scope of the courier journal id say this does classify as "news" to some degree.

personally i heard he had a bad addiction to cashmere which was really rough on him since he has a skin allergy.  i hear hes all puffed up and looks like he got a bad sunburn.  this could just be another vicious rumor though.
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: kevinjanes on Dec 19, 2005, 03:26 PM
Has anyone ever read the Courier Journal newspaper regularly? It's awful, awful journalism, but that's to be expected from anything that Gannett puts out. Not too long ago, 20-30 years or so, The Courier Journal was actually considered in journalistic circles to be a premier newspaper. It was always voted one of the best in the country by "people who know about these sorts of things." Then Gannett bought it out and it went way down hill and has never returned. So, knowing this, one should expect only shite to come from the music critic employed there. Sometimes he writes a decent review, but mostly, his writing should be ignored.

As for the Louisville "scene," it's pretty split in its support of MMJ. Half the bands and fans are elated for the band and thier success. The other half are sore losers and scoff any time a band, whether good or bad, makes it outside of the Louisville area and succeeds. This lot of fans and bands should also be ignored. They thrive on cutting successful bands down and love to perpetuate futher these sorts of rumors. It's all really sad, but that's what I've observed growing up here all my life...
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: DD on Dec 19, 2005, 05:26 PM
Quote

As for the Louisville "scene," it's pretty split in its support of MMJ. Half the bands and fans are elated for the band and thier success. The other half are sore losers and scoff any time a band, whether good or bad, makes it outside of the Louisville area and succeeds. This lot of fans and bands should also be ignored. They thrive on cutting successful bands down and love to perpetuate futher these sorts of rumors. It's all really sad, but that's what I've observed growing up here all my life...

thats pretty much every  music scene summed up right there.  there will always be haters.  there will always be people who want to dislike you.  there will always be people who have never even met you perpetuating rumors about you.  thats just how it goes.
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: EC on Dec 20, 2005, 10:28 AM
yeah, i guess i didn't know about the rumours in town.

so this would be a perfect example of someone not knowing all the facts and getting all freaky.  

sorry.
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Dec 20, 2005, 10:46 AM
 ;) I think it's because the ghost of Marvin Gaye asked him to front a supergroup with Steve Cropper, Mike Watt, Sun Ra, and Mike Rutherford.   Melanie Campbell from Burning Brides will play bass  ;D and they will cover Peter Gabriel, Zapp, the entire Electric Boogaloo soundtrack, and Merle Haggard tunes.  While they're at it, they are going to redo The Wiz in an off Broadway production, make lots of burritos, and cure cancer.  Apples in Stereo will open on their worldwide tour, and Danger Mouse will warm up the crowd with his rapping with no amplification.  Pat Sajak will quit Wheel of Fortune to emcee the whole shebang, and the tour will be sponsored by Hostess Twinkies,  Interstate Car Batteries, and Preparation H.  The tour is for charity, and all proceeds will go to benefit the Roy Rodgers Saddle Chafing Institute and Frappacino's for Frankfurters.

Is that ridiculous enough?  Oh right, it's not as ridiculous as these rumors..... ;)

look at all these rumors
follow me every day
I just need some time
Some time to get away
from...

all these rumors
can't take it no more
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: TheLink on Dec 20, 2005, 11:08 AM
hey man, i was made the center by whoever decided to take my dumb post to a level never intended.  for that, i take my part of the blame, but that certainly wasn't my intention.  i thought it was joking enough and when others pointed out it wasn't, i said it was wrong and that I NEVER even thought of it as a serious thought.  the fact that folks in Louisville did, seems a bit of a local phenomenon to me.  but again, i am sorry and wish the band nothing but the best.  Happy Holidays.
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: Curtis McCubbin on Dec 20, 2005, 11:35 AM
Quotewell if your'e allowed to come here and post whatever you feel like, why isn't jlp allowed to write whatever he feels like?

or is idiocy (ie free speech, apparently) only allowed for you lot?

hi its cmccubbin25 a regular poster on this board but i am not at my cpu and not signed...anyway

free speech on a message board and freedom of the press are two totally different things.  journalists have a responsibility to at least try to report facts and convey what is actually going on with a story or an article.  this journalist failed to do so.  when people read newspapers they take what is in them for the most part to be the "truth" or at the very least somewhat accurate.  that is not true for a fan message board where people are FREE to say what they like...true or not.  journalists do not have that same freedom NOR SHOULD THEY!  they should tell the truth and tell us the public how things really are...not how they want them to be.  So MR. FREEDOM...that is what we call the difference between being objective and being subjective.  it sounds like from your post you may be from across the pond and trying to attack us "Americans"....get over it...1776!
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: marktwain on Dec 20, 2005, 12:13 PM
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if this rumour was making its way around the ville, as well, i'm sure he was just trying to help the band out.  

If this is true, I apologize.  I had not heard any such rumor, and I am a Louisvillian, though, admittedly, an out-of-touch Louisvillian.  I only knew of the message board joke, and I think printing a message board joke (which had already been retracted) and calling it a rumor spreading among fans is irresponsible.
Title: Re: Todays Louisville Courier Journal article
Post by: antoniostrohs on Dec 21, 2005, 02:40 PM
Quotewell if your'e allowed to come here and post whatever you feel like, why isn't jlp allowed to write whatever he feels like?

or is idiocy (ie free speech, apparently) only allowed for you lot?
If you mean by jlp is Jeffrey Lee Puckett, I'm pretty sure it was Paul Curry who wrote this article. It was my fault on a bad pasting job.   If you remember it was Paul who made disparaging comments about the new members of the band before the new record came out.  It's his so called style to try to use innuendo to shock people and get attention.