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Title: EU still
Post by: aslongasukeepa on Mar 10, 2009, 10:36 AM
doesn't quite do it for me. I saw the boys twice this tour and seeing the songs live didn't really help much, either. I do like a handful of songs, and I don't think its crap or anything. Just as a whole album it still doesn't grab me. The album sounds over-produced to me. Its not a style thing, I always love bands experimenting, it just sounds like it was made intentionally poppy.
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: el_chode on Mar 10, 2009, 10:53 AM
I had the opposite reaction the other day. I found myself sitting in traffic, it was finally getting warm out, and this old evil urge came over me to hear Highly Suspicious (and I don't care what anyone says, that song is pure, 100%, unadulterated genius). But then I went to put this on, and I realized I had the refrain in Touch Me pt I stuck in my head ("...I'm smiling too, I see myself in you...CRESCENDO"), and then I realized I could really go for the title track, and I realized despite my reservations on certain songs studio version, the album is still incredible and holds up well one year later.

Though, I admit, it still remains the only one I routinely skip songs. However, I've contemplated simply replacing the ones I skip with well-recorded live versions for my own hybrid album.
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: AMightyCaporal on Mar 10, 2009, 11:13 AM
blasphemy! off with his head!
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: My Monkey Friend on Mar 10, 2009, 11:14 AM
I heard all this new EU material at the Houston show for the first time, and had to go to youtube to hear again. I loved it. Then the album came out, and i was a little disappointed with some of the production. I love the album, but i thought pat's drumming sounded less powerful than live. I do love the album except for 2 halves. that is the only mmj song i dont like. it does sound like a pop attempt, and they dont do that. the album is great, but man, it sounds so much better live.
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: el_chode on Mar 10, 2009, 11:22 AM
QuoteI heard all this new EU material at the Houston show for the first time, and had to go to youtube to hear again. I loved it. Then the album came out, and i was a little disappointed with some of the production. I love the album, but i thought pat's drumming sounded less powerful than live. I do love the album except for 2 halves. that is the only mmj song i dont like. it does sound like a pop attempt, and they dont do that. the album is great, but man, it sounds so much better live.

I didn't think 2 halves was that bad. It was the first point in the line connecting a newer trend towards late 60s style pop music (2nd point, making the line, being Dear Wife). I usually skip Sec Walking, Thank You Too, and Look at You, however Look at You can be satisfied by a live version quite easily.

I've started skipping I'm Amazed due to over-saturation.
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: Jbones72 on Mar 10, 2009, 12:45 PM
Still love it from start to finish.. I do agree about I'm Amazed  8-)
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: Soulshine on Mar 10, 2009, 12:52 PM
QuoteI had the opposite reaction the other day. I found myself sitting in traffic, it was finally getting warm out, and this old evil urge came over me to hear [highlight]Highly Suspicious (and I don't care what anyone says, that song is pure, 100%, unadulterated genius). [/highlight]But then I went to put this on, and I realized I had the refrain in Touch Me pt I stuck in my head ("...I'm smiling too, I see myself in you...CRESCENDO"), and then I realized I could really go for the title track, and I realized despite my reservations on certain songs studio version, the album is still incredible and holds up well one year later.

Though, I admit, it still remains the only one I routinely skip songs. However, I've contemplated simply replacing the ones I skip with well-recorded live versions for my own hybrid album.

I agree. That song forces my hand into the "rock" position and I have to hold onto something with my other hand. It just kicks so much ass! I thought the roof of the Chicago Theater was going to rocket off when they played it.

I remember bringing the album home. I hit play on my stereo and started to walk away across my living room. As soon as it Evil Urges started I stopped in my tracks and say "YES! Yet again!!!!!"

aslongasukeepa: Maybe its just one of those albums you have to put away for awhile and bring back out later?

I'm Amazed is a great song, but I agree that it is becoming slightly oversaturated.
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: el_chode on Mar 10, 2009, 12:57 PM
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QuoteI had the opposite reaction the other day. I found myself sitting in traffic, it was finally getting warm out, and this old evil urge came over me to hear [highlight]Highly Suspicious (and I don't care what anyone says, that song is pure, 100%, unadulterated genius). [/highlight]But then I went to put this on, and I realized I had the refrain in Touch Me pt I stuck in my head ("...I'm smiling too, I see myself in you...CRESCENDO"), and then I realized I could really go for the title track, and I realized despite my reservations on certain songs studio version, the album is still incredible and holds up well one year later.

Though, I admit, it still remains the only one I routinely skip songs. However, I've contemplated simply replacing the ones I skip with well-recorded live versions for my own hybrid album.

I agree. That song forces my hand into the "rock" position and I have to hold onto something with my other hand. It just kicks so much ass! I thought the roof of the Chicago Theater was going to rocket off when they played it.

I remember bringing the album home. I hit play on my stereo and started to walk away across my living room. As soon as it Evil Urges started I stopped in my tracks and say "YES! Yet again!!!!!"

aslongasukeepa: Maybe its just one of those albums you have to put away for awhile and bring back out later?

I'm Amazed is a great song, but I agree that it is becoming slightly oversaturated.

I remember when I listened to the NPR stream from SXSW and heard Highly Suspicious and I thought, "ok, this song is either going to be ridiculously awesome, or just ridiculous, so I have to listen to it again" and I was not let down.

and you know what's bothering me about I'm amazed? It's the over saturation of the first half of the song. I love the guitar outro a ton, but the mainstream can't handle something you can't sing along to. So I have to constantly endure the deedleydeedelydee doo doo deedleydeedelydee doo doo like it's the ringtone you assign to that clingy friend who becomes emotional after a beer and you know they're calling you to go out drinking.
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: at dawn on Mar 10, 2009, 01:20 PM
When it first came out I liked it but felt I couldn't really wrap my head around it, like there was something missing.  The other day I listened to it (after it had been a while) and it hit me like a ton of bricks.  I absolutely love it now, I think it stands up to all the others (I don't like getting into comparisons/rankings of their albums, they're all wonderful in their own way).  Sometimes the best albums just take some time.  But in the mean time try freeing your mind and don't think too much about it.
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: MickeyReds on Mar 10, 2009, 08:33 PM
EU=AWESOME
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: ycartrob on Mar 10, 2009, 09:04 PM
Quotedoesn't quite do it for me. I saw the boys twice this tour and seeing the songs live didn't really help much, either. I do like a handful of songs, and I don't think its crap or anything. Just as a whole album it still doesn't grab me. The album sounds over-produced to me. Its not a style thing, I always love bands experimenting, it just sounds like it was made intentionally poppy.

Are you going to let us know how you feel about EU every 8 months for the rest of our lives?  :)

http://www.mymorningjacket.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1214857837/0

(http://www.greatcosmichappyass.com/enlarge/lgSimplyThankYou.jpg)
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: Ghostess on TV on Mar 10, 2009, 09:23 PM
Ha!  That's funny.  Like the same paragraph.
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: MickeyReds on Mar 10, 2009, 11:12 PM
weird :o
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: buster douglas on Mar 11, 2009, 10:44 AM
I always sorta felt like Evil Urges was made as a compilation of wild songs they could incorporate into their live show, rather than one solid consistent block of an album.
It just feels that way, there's such a variety in the style of songs and the production of each...

Songs like Thank You Too, Librarian and Look At You are slow numbers that do quite nicely across the middle of a show.  Sec Walkin' attempts to capture the magic of Golden but falls slightly short.
Smokin' From Shootin' and Touch Me pt.2 are the 3/4 of the way through the show mind-bending orgasmic build-up, that can stand alone or lead to an even bigger blow off like Run-Thru.
Highly Suspicious is the rare post-coital second orgasm where you think you're done but then this ridiculous catchy hook makes you stand on your boner again.  I know it might sound obnoxious if you're just chillin' at home with head-phones on, but that song was designed with one single purpose in mind: blowing the roof off of venues in a tongue-in-cheek celebratory manner.

Touch Me pt. 1, while kinda neat, just feels like Jim was listening to too much Flaming Lips when he wrote it to me.  I like it, but something about it just seems off IMO.
Unfortunately, Aluminum Park and Two Halves just feel like vanilla filler to me, but hey, can't please ALL the people ALL the time.  (and I bet they rock live).  Before MMJ came along I would cite Pearl Jam as my all-time fav rock band, yet they've got all kinds of filler crap across all their albums.

In conclusion, I do agree with TC that Evil Urges does lack a certain something found on the other albums: A consistent definitive vibe that carries you along for a ride the whole way through.  On the other hand, I do think it is a collection of wacky, awesome tunes, and a step in directions that most other up-and-coming rockers aren't even aware of.
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: Vadie Stark on Mar 11, 2009, 02:39 PM
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Quotedoesn't quite do it for me. I saw the boys twice this tour and seeing the songs live didn't really help much, either. I do like a handful of songs, and I don't think its crap or anything. Just as a whole album it still doesn't grab me. The album sounds over-produced to me. Its not a style thing, I always love bands experimenting, it just sounds like it was made intentionally poppy.

Are you going to let us know how you feel about EU every 8 months for the rest of our lives?  :)

http://www.mymorningjacket.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1214857837/0

(http://www.greatcosmichappyass.com/enlarge/lgSimplyThankYou.jpg)
;D[highlight](http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu312/edtombell/160.jpg?t=1236796393)[/highlight]
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: aslongasukeepa on Mar 12, 2009, 11:32 AM
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Quotedoesn't quite do it for me. I saw the boys twice this tour and seeing the songs live didn't really help much, either. I do like a handful of songs, and I don't think its crap or anything. Just as a whole album it still doesn't grab me. The album sounds over-produced to me. Its not a style thing, I always love bands experimenting, it just sounds like it was made intentionally poppy.

Are you going to let us know how you feel about EU every 8 months for the rest of our lives?  :)

http://www.mymorningjacket.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1214857837/0

yes, yes, i am...look forward to the december post...dick
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: ycartrob on Mar 12, 2009, 11:43 AM
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Quotedoesn't quite do it for me. I saw the boys twice this tour and seeing the songs live didn't really help much, either. I do like a handful of songs, and I don't think its crap or anything. Just as a whole album it still doesn't grab me. The album sounds over-produced to me. Its not a style thing, I always love bands experimenting, it just sounds like it was made intentionally poppy.

Are you going to let us know how you feel about EU every 8 months for the rest of our lives?  :)

http://www.mymorningjacket.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1214857837/0

yes, yes, i am...look forward to the december post...dick

Dick,
    Actually, it's November, not December. March is the 3rd month, November is the 11th month. December is the 12th month.

soooo, 3 + 8 = 11 NOT 12.

(unless your calendar only has 11 months. But, it would have to be missing one of these months (do any of the following look unfamiliar to you?): April, May, June, July, August, September, October. If you live in a place where one of these months does not exist, then I apologize.)

but in the meantime...

You're welcome!  :)
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: capt. scotty on Mar 12, 2009, 02:52 PM
How did I never put this together

Dick Tracy  :D ;)

(http://www.psu.edu/dept/inart10_110/inart10/gif%20tracy.GIF)
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: ycartrob on Mar 12, 2009, 03:34 PM
QuoteHow did I never put this together

Dick Tracy  :D ;)

(http://www.psu.edu/dept/inart10_110/inart10/gif%20tracy.GIF)

Pretty original. I'm actually suprised it took you so long to figure that out; my friends called me that the 3rd day of first grade, I guess you just aren't that quick...
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: BH on Mar 12, 2009, 03:36 PM
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QuoteHow did I never put this together

Dick Tracy  :D ;)

(http://www.psu.edu/dept/inart10_110/inart10/gif%20tracy.GIF)

Pretty original. I'm actually suprised it took you so long to figure that out; my friends called me that the 3rd day of first grade, I guess you just aren't that quick...

Actually, he's just not that old!   Boo Yahh!   ;)
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: ycartrob on Mar 12, 2009, 03:38 PM
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QuoteHow did I never put this together

Dick Tracy  :D ;)

(http://www.psu.edu/dept/inart10_110/inart10/gif%20tracy.GIF)

Pretty original. I'm actually suprised it took you so long to figure that out; my friends called me that the 3rd day of first grade, I guess you just aren't that quick...

Actually, he's just not that old!   Boo Yahh!   ;)

I go to great lengths to throw fun insults at people and home flick comes with the most obvious "Dick Tracy" comment and thinks he's on to something.....

brilliant  :-/

step it up headdy, by June, at the rate you're going, you'll have more posts than anyone here, but your game is terribly weak. Step it up, you don't want to make us look bad.
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: Vadie Stark on Mar 12, 2009, 04:18 PM
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Quotedoesn't quite do it for me. I saw the boys twice this tour and seeing the songs live didn't really help much, either. I do like a handful of songs, and I don't think its crap or anything. Just as a whole album it still doesn't grab me. The album sounds over-produced to me. Its not a style thing, I always love bands experimenting, it just sounds like it was made intentionally poppy.

Are you going to let us know how you feel about EU every 8 months for the rest of our lives?  :)

http://www.mymorningjacket.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1214857837/0

yes, yes, i am...look forward to the december post...dick

Dick,
    Actually, it's November, not December. March is the 3rd month, November is the 11th month. December is the 12th month.

soooo, 3 + 8 = 11 NOT 12.

(unless your calendar only has 11 months. But, it would have to be missing one of these months (do any of the following look unfamiliar to you?): April, May, June, July, August, September, October. If you live in a place where one of these months does not exist, then I apologize.)

but in the meantime...

You're welcome!  :)

And it's outta here :D
[highlight](http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu312/edtombell/MickeyMantle.jpg?t=1236888945)[/highlight]
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: Leontheslut on Mar 12, 2009, 05:30 PM
Quotedoesn't quite do it for me. I saw the boys twice this tour and seeing the songs live didn't really help much, either. I do like a handful of songs, and I don't think its crap or anything. Just as a whole album it still doesn't grab me. The album sounds over-produced to me. Its not a style thing, I always love bands experimenting, it just sounds like it was made intentionally poppy.

Dude, I kind of feel your pain. It took me like 56 listens before I started to love EU for what it is.
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: capt. scotty on Mar 12, 2009, 09:25 PM
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QuoteHow did I never put this together

Dick Tracy  :D ;)

(http://www.psu.edu/dept/inart10_110/inart10/gif%20tracy.GIF)

Pretty original. I'm actually suprised it took you so long to figure that out; my friends called me that the 3rd day of first grade, I guess you just aren't that quick...

Actually, he's just not that old!   Boo Yahh!   ;)

I go to great lengths to throw fun insults at people and home flick comes with the most obvious "Dick Tracy" comment and thinks he's on to something.....

brilliant  :-/

step it up headdy, by June, at the rate you're going, you'll have more posts than anyone here, but your game is terribly weak. Step it up, you don't want to make us look bad.

My intellect is just so far beyond that of a 3rd grader it took me awhile to put 2 and 2 together.

That, and since youre the nicest person around here, I never wouldve thought of calling you a dick in the first place.
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: Vadie Stark on Mar 12, 2009, 09:40 PM
[highlight](http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu312/edtombell/Richard-Nixon.jpg?t=1236908255)[/highlight](http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu312/edtombell/TRACY.jpg?t=1236908282)
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: ycartrob on Mar 12, 2009, 10:48 PM
Quote
Quote
Quote
Quote
QuoteHow did I never put this together

Dick Tracy  :D ;)

(http://www.psu.edu/dept/inart10_110/inart10/gif%20tracy.GIF)

Pretty original. I'm actually suprised it took you so long to figure that out; my friends called me that the 3rd day of first grade, I guess you just aren't that quick...

Actually, he's just not that old!   Boo Yahh!   ;)

I go to great lengths to throw fun insults at people and home flick comes with the most obvious "Dick Tracy" comment and thinks he's on to something.....

brilliant  :-/

step it up headdy, by June, at the rate you're going, you'll have more posts than anyone here, but your game is terribly weak. Step it up, you don't want to make us look bad.

My intellect is just so far beyond that of a 3rd grader it took me awhile to put 2 and 2 together.

That, and since youre the nicest person around here, I never wouldve thought of calling you a dick in the first place.

really headdy? You feel you need to defend your intellect when compared to that of a 3rd grader?

this is disappointing
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: capt. scotty on Mar 12, 2009, 11:25 PM
Quote
Quote
Quote
Quote
Quote
QuoteHow did I never put this together

Dick Tracy  :D ;)

(http://www.psu.edu/dept/inart10_110/inart10/gif%20tracy.GIF)

Pretty original. I'm actually suprised it took you so long to figure that out; my friends called me that the 3rd day of first grade, I guess you just aren't that quick...

Actually, he's just not that old!   Boo Yahh!   ;)

I go to great lengths to throw fun insults at people and home flick comes with the most obvious "Dick Tracy" comment and thinks he's on to something.....

brilliant  :-/

step it up headdy, by June, at the rate you're going, you'll have more posts than anyone here, but your game is terribly weak. Step it up, you don't want to make us look bad.

My intellect is just so far beyond that of a 3rd grader it took me awhile to put 2 and 2 together.

That, and since youre the nicest person around here, I never wouldve thought of calling you a dick in the first place.

really headdy? You feel you need to defend your intellect when compared to that of a 3rd grader?

this is disappointing

lets just put it this way:

I would totally win the grand prize on that show Are You Smarter Than A 5th Grader.
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: Vadie Stark on Mar 14, 2009, 05:26 PM
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Quotedoesn't quite do it for me. I saw the boys twice this tour and seeing the songs live didn't really help much, either. I do like a handful of songs, and I don't think its crap or anything. Just as a whole album it still doesn't grab me. The album sounds over-produced to me. Its not a style thing, I always love bands experimenting, it just sounds like it was made intentionally poppy.

Are you going to let us know how you feel about EU every 8 months for the rest of our lives?  :)

http://www.mymorningjacket.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1214857837/0

yes, yes, i am...look forward to the december post...dick

I'll be waiting....(http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu312/edtombell/nocountryjones-1.jpg)
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: Dudley on Mar 15, 2009, 01:41 AM
I love the album! Start to finish it has a great vibe to it.. I remember laughing a bit at the falsetto's i'll admit.. But now I belt out those same notes like any other track... The only track i tend to skip is look at you.. But that's another story.. It's a great song but it's meaning has been twisted into a visual tragedy for me..
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: el_chode on Mar 16, 2009, 06:36 PM
My main gripe with the album was the lack of reverb, and it didn't get me until I read the EW article that said something to the effect of "finally gone is that stupid reverb"
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: ManNamedTruth on Mar 17, 2009, 04:31 AM
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QuoteI heard all this new EU material at the Houston show for the first time, and had to go to youtube to hear again. I loved it. Then the album came out, and i was a little disappointed with some of the production. I love the album, but i thought pat's drumming sounded less powerful than live. I do love the album except for 2 halves. that is the only mmj song i dont like. it does sound like a pop attempt, and they dont do that. the album is great, but man, it sounds so much better live.

I didn't think 2 halves was that bad. It was the first point in the line connecting a newer trend towards late 60s style pop music (2nd point, making the line, being Dear Wife). I usually skip Sec Walking, Thank You Too, and Look at You, however Look at You can be satisfied by a live version quite easily.

I've started skipping I'm Amazed due to over-saturation.

I scratch my head when people say they don't like Thank You Too. It's classic MMJ, a moment in the album where they just do what they do best and didn't try too hard to experiment with their sound. It's a sublime song and my favorite EU track from day one.
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: BH on Mar 17, 2009, 09:36 AM
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QuoteI heard all this new EU material at the Houston show for the first time, and had to go to youtube to hear again. I loved it. Then the album came out, and i was a little disappointed with some of the production. I love the album, but i thought pat's drumming sounded less powerful than live. I do love the album except for 2 halves. that is the only mmj song i dont like. it does sound like a pop attempt, and they dont do that. the album is great, but man, it sounds so much better live.

I didn't think 2 halves was that bad. It was the first point in the line connecting a newer trend towards late 60s style pop music (2nd point, making the line, being Dear Wife). I usually skip Sec Walking, Thank You Too, and Look at You, however Look at You can be satisfied by a live version quite easily.

I've started skipping I'm Amazed due to over-saturation.

I scratch my head when people say they don't like Thank You Too. It's classic MMJ, a moment in the album where they just do what they do best and didn't try too hard to experiment with their sound. It's a sublime song and my favorite EU track from day one.

Amen and a hallelujah!
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: PapaJoeBear on Mar 18, 2009, 01:56 AM
Meh...

Its no Cobra.

;)
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: Kenny76 on Mar 18, 2009, 11:20 PM
it's got soul and it jams.  what's not to love?
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: Janet on Mar 22, 2009, 05:29 PM
Was listening to this album again this weekend.  So good!  I'd put Highly Suspicious and Touch Me Pt 2 up against the best of the MMJ catalog any day.

Title: Re: EU still
Post by: Laid Low on Mar 26, 2009, 01:29 AM
When EU 1st came out I would sometimes skip over certain songs like "Highly suspicious" and "Librarian" but now when I listen to it i cant get enough of the songs I used to not dig as much.  

Thank you too is a great song btw but I still think "smokin' from shootin'" or "remnants" are the most bad ass songs from the album.
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: capt. scotty on Mar 26, 2009, 01:32 AM
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Thank you too is a great song btw but I still think "smokin' from shootin'" most bad ass songs from the album.

good post
Title: Re: EU still
Post by: el_chode on Mar 26, 2009, 09:33 PM
QuoteWhen EU 1st came out I would sometimes skip over certain songs like "Highly suspicious" and "Librarian" but now when I listen to it i cant get enough of the songs I used to not dig as much.  

Thank you too is a great song btw but I still think "smokin' from shootin'" or "remnants" are the most bad ass songs from the album.

Librarian gave me goosebumps the first time I heard it. First I heard the music, and I was like "this is awesomely creepy, and it takes real musicians to know when less is more" There was just enough of backing rhythm to give the song the proper feel. Then I heard the lyrics, and I read someone else post my exact sentiments - "Did he just say "intarwebs?". Instahooked.