My Morning Jacket

Well, I know there has been a lull in all things MMJ so perhaps some members will give this thread a try.

The intent is to gauge where each of the 5 full length studio albums rank collectively among forum members at this point in time.  

Because it would be unfair to require that an album be chosen over another, you are given a total of 20 points to allocate among the 5 albums however you choose and .5 points are allowed.  Fans of Evil Urges, do not be afraid ;)

6 - At Dawn
5 - It Still Moves
4 - Z
3.5 - Tennessee Fire
1.5 - Evil Urges

I will now write software to crunch these numbers in a few months ;)

Happy Voting!

interesting. I'll join in.

6- At Dawn
6- The Tennessee Fire
4- It Still Moves
3- Z
1- Evil Urges

1. Z
2. At Dawn
3. It Still Moves
4. The Tennessee Fire
5. Evil Urges

Quote1. Z
2. At Dawn
3. It Still Moves
4. The Tennessee Fire
5. Evil Urges

>:( >:( >:(

I thought lawyers read the fine print (aka the rules) ;)

Tennessee Fire - 5
At Dawn - 5
It Still Moves - 5
Z - 3.5
Evil Urges - 1.5

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1. Z (6)
2. At Dawn (5)
3. It Still Moves (4.5)
4. The Tennessee Fire (2.5)
5. Evil Urges (2)

>:( >:( >:(

I thought lawyers read the fine print (aka the rules) ;)

it's redundant, david brent, in'it? ;) i fixed it, get off ma back!

It Still Moves - 6
At Dawn - 4
Z - 4
Tennessee Fire - 3
Evil Urges - 3

At Dawn - 5
Z - 5
It Still Moves - 4.5
Tennessee Fire - 3.5
Evil Urges - 2

It Still Moves - 8
At Dawn - 4.5
Z - 3.5
Tennessee Fire - 3.5
Evil Urges - .5

Z: 5
It Still Moves: 5
At Dawn:  4
Evil Urges:  3
The Tennessee Fire:  3

I Still Moves: 5
Z:4
At Dawn: 4
EU:3.5
Tn Fire:3.5

QuoteIt Still Moves - 8
At Dawn - 4.5
Z - 3.5
Tennessee Fire - 3.5
Evil Urges - [highlight].5[/highlight]

No It's not true! :'(

It Still Moves 4
Z                 4
At Dawn        4
Evil Urges      4
The Tennessee Fire  4

TTF 3
AD 5 infinity <-- I have few perfect albums, but this sure as shit is one
ISM 4.5
Z 4.5
EU 3

Here goes:

Z - 5
ISM - 4.5
EU - 4
AD - 3.5
TFF - 3

TTF 3.5
AD 4
ISM 4.5
Z 5
EU 3

AD-5
ISM-5
Z - 3.5
EU- 3.5
TTF - 3

this may will change tomorrow.

TTF-3
AD-5
ISM-4
Z-5
EU-3

This is tough...

AD - 5
ISM - 4.5
Z - 4.5
TTF - 3.5
EU - 2.5

It Still Moves - 7
The Tennessee Fire - 5
Z -3.5
Evil Urges - 2.5
At Dawn - 2

Z- 5
It Still Moves- 4.5
At Dawn- 4
Evil Urges- 3.5
Tennessee Fire- 3 (Hate to do this, but Z is my all time favorite album, ISM is a monster, AD is just about perfect, and I adore EU for what it is)

It Still Moves           4
Z                          4
At Dawn                    4
Evil Urges                    4
The Tennessee Fire  4

TTF: 2.5
AD: 5
ISM: 6
Z: 4
EU: 2.5

however asking me in the summer creates a bias since in the next month AD will prob reign followed by Z in late fall early winter into TTF in late winter early spring and EU usually picks up steam for me April thru June. its just that when it comes to a hot day and cold beer, ISM is the perfect soundtrack

TN Fire gets the short end of the stick because the production is so lo-fi and the band was so young.  If they had remade it 10 years later (like I suggested...ahem  ;) ) it would be ranking much higher.  And if a frog had wings it wouldn't bump its ass when it hops.  Proceed...

The Tennessee Fire: 4.5
At Dawn: 4
It Still Moves: 5.5
Z: 4
Evil Urges: 2

And aMD, the productin on TTF is one of the reasons I love it so much!

I like the lo-fi sound as well and considering we'll never hear them make music like that again, it makes it unique.

Nashville to Kentuckey (and Tonight I want To Celebrate With You)especially, but also They Ran on the newest EP definitely make me want to hear all of TTF redone.

It would certainly appease all the people complaining they want a tour or new Jacket right now or during another similar year in the near future.

At Dawn 5
ISM 5
Z 4
TTF 4
EU 2

TTF - 6

AD - 6

ISM - 4

Z - 3

EU - 1

Not that I think EU is a bad album, just that in comparison to their past brilliance it doesn't quite measure up.  MMJ is kind of like the Pixies: Trompe Le Monde, generally conidered to be their weakest album is still a pretty fucking good album, it's just that they made DOOLITTLE and SURFER ROSA.

QuoteI like the lo-fi sound as well and considering we'll never hear them make music like that again, it makes it unique.

Nashville to Kentuckey (and Tonight I want To Celebrate With You)especially, but also They Ran on the newest EP definitely make me want to hear all of TTF redone.

It would certainly appease all the people complaining they want a tour or new Jacket right now or during another similar year in the near future.

All I have to say is that when it comes to MMJ, it seems that the more lo-fi/acousticky the song, the more awesome it becomes when played live. Example: War Begun

At Dawn 6
Z 5
It Still Moves 4
Evil Urges 3
The Tennessee Fire 2

Quote MMJ is kind of like the Pixies: Trompe Le Monde, generally conidered to be their weakest album is still a pretty fucking good album, it's just that they made DOOLITTLE and SURFER ROSA.

Good analogy.

Z-5
ISM-5
EU-4
AD-3
TFF-3

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QuoteI like the lo-fi sound as well and considering we'll never hear them make music like that again, it makes it unique.

Nashville to Kentuckey (and Tonight I want To Celebrate With You)especially, but also They Ran on the newest EP definitely make me want to hear all of TTF redone.

It would certainly appease all the people complaining they want a tour or new Jacket right now or during another similar year in the near future.

All I have to say is that when it comes to MMJ, it seems that the more lo-fi/acousticky the song, the more awesome it becomes when played live. Example: War Begun

True story!  Their lo-fi stuff ranks comparatively low on my album rankings, however, those are my favorite songs live.

I think each album is 1, each a perfect tonal masterpiece. maybe each album rotates mentally through a number 1 phase....thats all for now.

By my calculations so far:

88 Tennessee Fire
113.5  At Dawn
124 It Still Moves
109.5  Z
66.5 Evil Urges

Z: 5.25
ISM: 5
At Dawn: 4.75
TF: 3.5
Evil Urges: 1.5

Clearly the rules don't apply anymore ;)

I'll let Haldon slide :)

Now Drake, I'm Asian but I still don't understand your math ;)

AD:6
TTF:5.5
Z:4.5
ISM:2.5
EU:1.5

QuoteAD:6
TTF:5.5
Z:4.5
ISM:2.5
EU:1.5

Yowza.  That's the 1st poo poo rating garnered by ISM.  SHould bring more parity to the vote

EU 4
Z 4
ISM 6
AD 3
TF 3

More a fan of the later stuff as you can see

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QuoteAD:6
TTF:5.5
Z:4.5
ISM:2.5
EU:1.5

Yowza.  That's the 1st poo poo rating garnered by ISM.  SHould bring more parity to the vote

He's just mad his fantasy team sucks  ;D

It Still Moves - 6
Z - 5
At Dawn - 4
Tennessee Fire - 3
Evil Urges - 2

4 - At Dawn
6 - It Still Moves
6 - Z
2 - Tennessee Fire
2 - Evil Urges

TTF: 3.5
At Dawn: 6
ISM: 5
Z: 4
EU: 1.5

QuoteTTF: 3.5
At Dawn: 6
ISM: 5
Z: 4
EU: 1.5

I knew we had something in common.  Brilliant voting I say chap, brilliant! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

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QuoteTTF: 3.5
At Dawn: 6
ISM: 5
Z: 4
EU: 1.5

I knew we had something in common.  Brilliant voting I say chap, brilliant! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Ha! I just went back & checked your list  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

I felt bad about giving EU only 1.5, thought about knocking .5 off of one of the others to give it a 2 but I just couldn't do it...

TTF: 4
At Dawn: 6
ISM: 5
Z: 2
EU: 3

ISM - 5
AD - 4.5
TF - 4
Z - 3.5
EU - 3

This is damn tough.  I love Z so much! :o

ISM - 5.5
AD - 4.5
Z - 4
EU - 3
TF - 3

ISM - 6
Z - 5
AD - 4
TTF - 3.5
EU - 1.5

Let's give it a whirl:

It Still Moves- 6
At Dawn- 4
Z- 4
Tennesee Fire- 3.5
Evil Urges- 2.5

6 The Tennessee Fire
4 At Dawn
4 Z
4 It Still Moves
2 Evil Urges

4 bonus points for Chocolate and Ice

Z - 5.5 (Only one throwaway track Into the Woods)

ISM - 5 - (In the Vinyl days and the most you could fit on an LP was around 45-50 minutes, this would have been one of the best albums of all time.  

Side 1 - OBH,Dancefloors, Golden, Just One Thing, Mahgeetah 24 minutes  
Side 2 - I will sing you Songs, Master Plan, Run Thru, Steam Engine 26 minutes

The rest would have been good on a rareties or B Sides
Easy Morning Rebel
Rollin Back
One In The Same

AD - 3.5 (I like the live versions of these much better than the album.)

EU - 3.5 (Highly Suspicious deducts a .5 pt)

TTF - 2.5  (I like every other version of songs on this album done live or as the Palms for They Ran and Nashville to Kentucky, I think Yim knows this that's why he rerecorded it.)  

Totally unscientific analysis based upon the the original 64 song countdown.  Here was the voting results based upon total votes by album.

Album    Actual          Possible            Pctg
ISM          698                1296            53.86%
AD           621                1232            50.41%
Z            351                 723            48.55%
TTF          494                1105            44.71%
EU           232                 637            36.42%  

Projection to a 20 Pt Scale
ISM - 4.6
AD - 4.3
Z - 4.15
TTF - 3.82
EU - 3.11

Compared to the last tally by the Drake (hate the Drake!)
88 Tennessee Fire
113.5  At Dawn
124 It Still Moves
109.5  Z
66.5 Evil Urges

Projected out to a 20 Pt Scale
ISM - 4.94
AD - 4.53
Z - 4.37
TTF - 3.51
EU - 2.65

Compared

          64 Songs       Album Rank    Variance  Combined
ISM           4.6                4.94               .34         9.54
AD            4.3                4.53               .23          8.83
Z              4.15              4.37               .22          8.52
TTF           3.82              3.51              -.31          7.33
EU            3.11              2.65              -.46          5.76

What does this say, each album across the board finished the same for both polls, TTF and EU both are much worse when compared to each of the other albums and EU gets no love at all.

Can't wait for the new album :D

The top 3 was a tough call but:

6 - Z
5 - At Dawn
4 - It Still Moves
3 - Evil Urges
2 - Tennessee Fire

At Dawn-7
ISM-6.5
Z-3
TTF-3
EU-.5

QuoteTotally unscientific analysis based upon the the original 64 song countdown.  Here was the voting results based upon total votes by album.

Album    Actual          Possible            Pctg
ISM          698                1296            53.86%
AD           621                1232            50.41%
Z            351                 723            48.55%
TTF          494                1105            44.71%
EU           232                 637            36.42%  

Projection to a 20 Pt Scale
ISM - 4.6
AD - 4.3
Z - 4.15
TTF - 3.82
EU - 3.11

Compared to the last tally by the Drake (hate the Drake!)
88 Tennessee Fire
113.5  At Dawn
124 It Still Moves
109.5  Z
66.5 Evil Urges

Projected out to a 20 Pt Scale
ISM - 4.94
AD - 4.53
Z - 4.37
TTF - 3.51
EU - 2.65

Compared

          64 Songs       Album Rank    Variance  Combined
ISM           4.6                4.94               .34         9.54
AD            4.3                4.53               .23          8.83
Z              4.15              4.37               .22          8.52
TTF           3.82              3.51              -.31          7.33
EU            3.11              2.65              -.46          5.76

What does this say, each album across the board finished the same for both polls, TTF and EU both are much worse when compared to each of the other albums and EU gets no love at all.

Can't wait for the new album :D

my head hurts, jeebus.

QuoteTotally unscientific analysis based upon the the original 64 song countdown.  Here was the voting results based upon total votes by album.

Album    Actual          Possible            Pctg
ISM          698                1296            53.86%
AD           621                1232            50.41%
Z            351                 723            48.55%
TTF          494                1105            44.71%
EU           232                 637            36.42%  

Projection to a 20 Pt Scale
ISM - 4.6
AD - 4.3
Z - 4.15
TTF - 3.82
EU - 3.11

Compared to the last tally by the Drake (hate the Drake!)
88 Tennessee Fire
113.5  At Dawn
124 It Still Moves
109.5  Z
66.5 Evil Urges

Projected out to a 20 Pt Scale
ISM - 4.94
AD - 4.53
Z - 4.37
TTF - 3.51
EU - 2.65

Compared

          64 Songs       Album Rank    Variance  Combined
ISM           4.6                4.94               .34         9.54
AD            4.3                4.53               .23          8.83
Z              4.15              4.37               .22          8.52
TTF           3.82              3.51              -.31          7.33
EU            3.11              2.65              -.46          5.76

What does this say, each album across the board finished the same for both polls, TTF and EU both are much worse when compared to each of the other albums and EU gets no love at all.

Can't wait for the new album :D

Excellent work! I'm unclear on the 'Actual' and 'Possible' points you've listed from the original 64 songs tournament results. The decision was a definite yes or no in that one, a one or a zero, but the result ended up being the same.  

Cool, dude.  Hella scientific. 8-)

QuoteTotally unscientific analysis based upon the the original 64 song countdown.  Here was the voting results based upon total votes by album.

Album    Actual          Possible            Pctg
ISM          698                1296            53.86%
AD           621                1232            50.41%
Z            351                 723            48.55%
TTF          494                1105            44.71%
EU           232                 637            36.42%  

Projection to a 20 Pt Scale
ISM - 4.6
AD - 4.3
Z - 4.15
TTF - 3.82
EU - 3.11

Compared to the last tally by the Drake (hate the Drake!)
88 Tennessee Fire
113.5  At Dawn
124 It Still Moves
109.5  Z
66.5 Evil Urges

Projected out to a 20 Pt Scale
ISM - 4.94
AD - 4.53
Z - 4.37
TTF - 3.51
EU - 2.65

Compared

          64 Songs       Album Rank    Variance  Combined
ISM           4.6                4.94               .34         9.54
AD            4.3                4.53               .23          8.83
Z              4.15              4.37               .22          8.52
TTF           3.82              3.51              -.31          7.33
EU            3.11              2.65              -.46          5.76

What does this say, each album across the board finished the same for both polls, TTF and EU both are much worse when compared to each of the other albums and EU gets no love at all.

Can't wait for the new album :D

I don't miss doing stats.  Oh those days of Excel and SPSS.

Thanks for the work sir! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

It's interesting that it would come out that way without any variability (non statistical usage of the word) but I guess it goes to show that the whole is equal to the sum of its parts.  Huh?

QuoteBy my calculations so far:

88 Tennessee Fire
113.5  At Dawn
124 It Still Moves
109.5  Z
66.5 Evil Urges

;D ;D ;D

My bad, I thought those were your votes.  Ha

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QuoteTotally unscientific analysis based upon the the original 64 song countdown.  Here was the voting results based upon total votes by album.

Album    Actual          Possible            Pctg
ISM          698                1296            53.86%
AD           621                1232            50.41%
Z            351                 723            48.55%
TTF          494                1105            44.71%
EU           232                 637            36.42%  

Projection to a 20 Pt Scale
ISM - 4.6
AD - 4.3
Z - 4.15
TTF - 3.82
EU - 3.11

Compared to the last tally by the Drake (hate the Drake!)
88 Tennessee Fire
113.5  At Dawn
124 It Still Moves
109.5  Z
66.5 Evil Urges

Projected out to a 20 Pt Scale
ISM - 4.94
AD - 4.53
Z - 4.37
TTF - 3.51
EU - 2.65

Compared

          64 Songs       Album Rank    Variance  Combined
ISM           4.6                4.94               .34         9.54
AD            4.3                4.53               .23          8.83
Z              4.15              4.37               .22          8.52
TTF           3.82              3.51              -.31          7.33
EU            3.11              2.65              -.46          5.76

What does this say, each album across the board finished the same for both polls, TTF and EU both are much worse when compared to each of the other albums and EU gets no love at all.

Can't wait for the new album :D

I don't miss doing stats.  Oh those days of Excel and SPSS.

Thanks for the work sir! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

It's interesting that it would come out that way without any variability (non statistical usage of the word) but I guess it goes to show that the whole is equal to the sum of its parts.  Huh?

Just reading SPSS made me throw up in my mouth.  :'(

Ah, stats. Did you ever have to run SAS by command line? Then you would truly have learned the meaning of hell.

QuoteAh, stats. Did you ever have to run SAS by command line? Then you would truly have learned the meaning of hell.

Honestly, I have no idea. I truly believe that I created a seperate personality to get my through the parts of grad school that sucked the hardest b/c there are many academic parts I do not remember.  :-?

I'm conflicted.

Z is their best album.
It Still Moves in my favorite album.
Evil Urges SOUNDS the best.

don't get me wrong, I love a lot of the songs on At Dawn and Tenn Fire, BUT, those albums seem like collections of demos to me. All the songs I love on those albums are worlds better live.

SOOOO,
7 for 'Z'
6 for 'ISM'
5 for 'EU'
1 for 'AD'
1 for 'TTF'

ISM---5
Z-----4.5
TTF---3
EU----3.5
AD---4

Bump:  Any new takers?

ISM 6.5
Z     5.5
AD   4
EU    2.5
TTF   1.5

It Still Moves 7.5
Z     6.5
At Dawn   5
Evil Urges    3.5
The Tennessee Fire   2.5