My Morning Jacket

I've been spending some time listening to the oldest MMJ and researching the early years of the band.  

Does anyone have recordings from before MMJ?  

Month of Sundays
Winter Death Club
hotel Roy

The oldest MMJ recording I have is
1999-12-14 Bunbury Theatre - Louisville, KY

Forgive me if this revives old threads, but I imagine a lot of folks would appreciate this and any updates regarding older, rediscovered recordings.

For those interested, I have been spending much of my time here:

http://www.gerpotze.com/mymorningjacket/

Thanks!

Are you looking for shows?  I have a couple crappy month of sundays shows.  Sound-quality is crappy not the shows themselves.  As far as albums you should be able to order month of sundays albums from noise pollution and Jim released a Mont de Sundae album not too long ago.  Hotel Roy's album is out of print I believe but I've posted it here a few times, same with winter death club

I guess I'm eager to get anything I don't already have.   ;)

That Dec. '99 show is the earliest on the archive.  I'm not sure I'm interested in buying Month of Sundays or other pre-MMJ albums, just curious as to their sound.  We recently came across that demo tape dated 1996.  I'll do a search for some earlier posts you think you might have made.  Thanks.

There's JJ's "Helicopters" album which I think is from 1997...pre-MMJ.

QuoteThere's JJ's "Helicopters" album which I think is from 1997...pre-MMJ.

I actually recently picked that up.  Might regret it, but it fills the collection.  We'll see.  Waiting for it to arrive.  Thanks.

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QuoteThere's JJ's "Helicopters" album which I think is from 1997...pre-MMJ.

I actually recently picked that up.  Might regret it, but it fills the collection.  We'll see.  Waiting for it to arrive.  Thanks.

That's Hotel Roy though.  Just to be clear.

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QuoteThere's JJ's "Helicopters" album which I think is from 1997...pre-MMJ.

I actually recently picked that up.  Might regret it, but it fills the collection.  We'll see.  Waiting for it to arrive.  Thanks.

That's Hotel Roy though.  Just to be clear.

Right.  Some guy was selling his Jacket material on eBay recently.  I'd just come across and was curious about Hotel Roy when his copy of the disc come up.  

For about $65, I got-

Hotel Roy- Helicopters CD
At Dawn CD w/bonus demo disc
Acoustic Chorale DVD
EU promo poster w/all 5 sigs

Not a bad haul, I think.

QuoteI've been spending some time listening to the oldest MMJ and researching the early years of the band.  

Does anyone have recordings from before MMJ?  

Month of Sundays
Winter Death Club
hotel Roy

The oldest MMJ recording I have is
1999-12-14 Bunbury Theatre - Louisville, KY

Forgive me if this revives old threads, but I imagine a lot of folks would appreciate this and any updates regarding older, rediscovered recordings.

For those interested, I have been spending much of my time here:

http://www.gerpotze.com/mymorningjacket/

Thanks!

There's Old Pike which is Carls old band. You can listen to/download a bunch of their stuff aswell as other bands he's been in on the musical family tree website.

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QuoteI've been spending some time listening to the oldest MMJ and researching the early years of the band.  

Does anyone have recordings from before MMJ?  

Month of Sundays
Winter Death Club
hotel Roy

The oldest MMJ recording I have is
1999-12-14 Bunbury Theatre - Louisville, KY

Forgive me if this revives old threads, but I imagine a lot of folks would appreciate this and any updates regarding older, rediscovered recordings.

For those interested, I have been spending much of my time here:

http://www.gerpotze.com/mymorningjacket/

Thanks!

There's Old Pike which is Carls old band. You can listen to/download a bunch of their stuff aswell as other bands he's been in on the musical family tree website.

Awesome.  Thanks wb.  I'll look into it.

Has anyone ever actually heard anything from helgeson story or panure?

Helgeson Story's album No Mail Days are Sad Days is great.  I've also posted that here before.

I've heard Panure, but don't think I have anything I can share.

If anyone has obscure out-of-print/okay to share pre-MMJ material, I'd love to download some.  I've purchased Hotel Roy's Helicopters.  I've also searched the forum for past postings, such as those Dylan mentioned, but the links are all dead.  Thanks.

YOu can buy the Mont de Sundua album on ThinkIndie.com.  Here's Helgeson Story:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/kvajm2

I can hook you up with some other Month of Sundays and Winter Death Club if you're interested.

QuoteYOu can buy the Mont de Sundua album on ThinkIndie.com.  Here's Helgeson Story:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/kvajm2

I can hook you up with some other Month of Sundays and Winter Death Club if you're interested.

Thanks, D-man.  I'm just a completist.  I enjoyed my first listen of Hotel Roy.  Great drumming!  1997 would put Jim at about 20 years old when it came out.  My understanding is that he didn't really write those songs.  It must be challenging to sing lyrics that aren't your's.  

I've been facinated with the early days of other bands, too.  I teach at a high school in New Hampshire.  When he was 17, Steven Tyler and his band, Aerosmith, played the prom here.  The teacher across the hall from me has the original contract for that gig.  By the time I saw them, in 1984, they were so messed up (drink and drug) the show was a disaster.  Sounds like they rocked the Newport High School gym years earlier, though.

I've also posted a demo Boston used to land their first record deal (see Other Music).  You can see why it worked.  

Early pre-Beatles, early Hendrix, pre-Dead Jerry, its all a learning experience.  The evolution of greatness.  

johnnY, that's a great story about Aerosmith playing the prom there, nice!!

I've been kinda lurkin' on your researches here and am kind of an Early Bird myself. I haven't had the time to fully look into super early MMJ , but I'm appreciative of all the info you all are conjuring up. I have the Chaps. 1 & 2 and other random numbers I've been able to dig up. I did a brief Month of Sundays search mission a couple months ago, but to no real avail. I love the pre-Beatles, Hendrix, Jerry, Zep, Floyd, etc.... there's nothing like hearing them talking songs out and hearing them 'mess up' (which I always think still sounds great! hahah) I'll have to check out the Boston demo too.

Just wanted to thank ya all for the dirt on pre-MMJ. When I get more time (which I should have this week, hopefully) I'm gonna really pore over it all. And you've made the searches much simpler  :)

in search of prepubescent jim james are we now?

QuotejohnnY, that's a great story about Aerosmith playing the prom there, nice!!

I've been kinda lurkin' on your researches here and am kind of an Early Bird myself. I haven't had the time to fully look into super early MMJ , but I'm appreciative of all the info you all are conjuring up. I have the Chaps. 1 & 2 and other random numbers I've been able to dig up. I did a brief Month of Sundays search mission a couple months ago, but to no real avail. I love the pre-Beatles, Hendrix, Jerry, Zep, Floyd, etc.... there's nothing like hearing them talking songs out and hearing them 'mess up' (which I always think still sounds great! hahah) [highlight]I'll have to check out the Boston demo too.[/highlight]

Just wanted to thank ya all for the dirt on pre-MMJ. When I get more time (which I should have this week, hopefully) I'm gonna really pore over it all. And you've made the searches much simpler  :)

Here's a direct link to download the Boston demo:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5YAOMWIE

Here's the link to the original thread:

http://www.mymorningjacket.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1267589807

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QuotejohnnY, that's a great story about Aerosmith playing the prom there, nice!!

I've been kinda lurkin' on your researches here and am kind of an Early Bird myself. I haven't had the time to fully look into super early MMJ , but I'm appreciative of all the info you all are conjuring up. I have the Chaps. 1 & 2 and other random numbers I've been able to dig up. I did a brief Month of Sundays search mission a couple months ago, but to no real avail. I love the pre-Beatles, Hendrix, Jerry, Zep, Floyd, etc.... there's nothing like hearing them talking songs out and hearing them 'mess up' (which I always think still sounds great! hahah) [highlight]I'll have to check out the Boston demo too.[/highlight]

Just wanted to thank ya all for the dirt on pre-MMJ. When I get more time (which I should have this week, hopefully) I'm gonna really pore over it all. And you've made the searches much simpler  :)

Here's a direct link to download the Boston demo:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5YAOMWIE

Here's the link to the original thread:

http://www.mymorningjacket.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1267589807

Muchos Gracias 8-)

So, I've got a copy of the hotel Roy CD "Helicopters" on eBay and would like to share it with the forum.  

Does anyone have a compelling reason for me NOT posting a download of the album?  It appears to be out of print and I'm not selling it.  Nonetheless, I respect the opinions of those more wise in the ways of Jacket who have insight into this particular golden artifact.  And if Jim hisself would like to let me know his feelings, he can PM or email me his phone number and we can discuss it.  

Seriously, any thoughts would be appreciated.  If no objections, I'll post a download link, probably tomorrow.  I will remove it upon request.  

Thanks.

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QuoteSo, I've got a copy of the hotel Roy CD "Helicopters" on eBay and would like to share it with the forum.  

Does anyone have a compelling reason for me NOT posting a download of the album?  It appears to be out of print and I'm not selling it.  Nonetheless, I respect the opinions of those more wise in the ways of Jacket who have insight into this particular golden artifact.  And if Jim hisself would like to let me know his feelings, he can PM or email me his phone number and we can discuss it.  

Seriously, any thoughts would be appreciated.  If no objections, I'll post a download link, probably tomorrow.  I will remove it upon request.  

Thanks.

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EDIT: LOL, I should have read the first page 1st.  Sorry JYY

Shouldn't be a problem.  AMD posted this a while back where I downloaded it.  I haven't checked you see if his link is still working.

http://www.mymorningjacket.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1225199584

EDIT:  IT's no longer an active link.  I say post it or otherwise I can. :)

Ah, so there's precedent (Da Funky Precedent, ya?).

Enjoy!  I've also scanned the inserts and CD label.

hotel Roy- "Helicopters"   w/Jim Olliges (aka Jim James aka Yim Yames) in 1997 (I believe he was 20 yrs. old)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=00B1LGB4

WOWOWOWOW THANK YOU JOHNNYY!!! What an unexpected awesome surprise to come home to!! The download was a cinch! Listening now in 3.....2.....ooooonnnneeeeee  ;D

Indeed, thanks a lot!  :)

Duuuude soooo $$$!!  Thanks for upping & posting.

I need some sort of smiley that is dancing/shimmying in celebration! Can't wait to play it

Smiling in my Sleep  :)

So I have no idea what to expect or if this may yield a response, but I can't help hearing a likeliness to the band HUM throughout some of this Helicopters album... maybe especially in "Smiling in my Sleep"

Sorry it took me so long to get around to this, but here are two recordings from the Month of Sundays, Jim's first band.  They used to be one of the hottest bands in Louisville back when Jim was all of 13. This is also the band that Jim was in with Aaron Todovich, aka dondante.  Don't forget to pick up Mont de Sundua back Removador:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/9utb75

QuoteSorry it took me so long to get around to this, but here are two recordings from the Month of Sundays, Jim's first band.  They used to be one of the hottest bands in Louisville back when Jim was all of 13. This is also the band that Jim was in with Aaron Todovich, aka dondante.  Don't forget to pick up Mont de Sundua back Removador:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/9utb75

Thanks, Dylan.  I have Mont de Sundua.  Does this download contain tracks not found on that release?  Also, I couldn't get the link to work.

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QuoteSorry it took me so long to get around to this, but here are two recordings from the Month of Sundays, Jim's first band.  They used to be one of the hottest bands in Louisville back when Jim was all of 13. This is also the band that Jim was in with Aaron Todovich, aka dondante.  Don't forget to pick up Mont de Sundua back Removador:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/9utb75

Thanks, Dylan.  I have Mont de Sundua.  Does this download contain tracks not found on that release?  Also, I couldn't get the link to work.

These are two releases before Mont de Sundua, all the material's different.  Mont de Sundua has a different name because those were tracks they recorded after Aaron left the band.  I checked the sendspace link and it's working fine. Try again.

Did you get the download to work, Johnny? If so maybe you could upload and post it here so more people will appreciate it.  ;)

Hey Dylan.  Thanks again.  I got it to work.  Currently downloading.

Hey Johnny- I was wondering if you knew a good link to download acoustic choral for my just the music.  i bought the dvd on ebay at your suggestion, love it, but need to get all of it on my ipod.
best suggestion?
thanks.

QuoteHey Johnny- I was wondering if you knew a good link to download acoustic choral for my just the music.  i bought the dvd on ebay at your suggestion, love it, but need to get all of it on my ipod.
best suggestion?
thanks.

Hey h²!  I just uploaded it for you.  

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K4HPAA60

you are a star!  thanks.

hope u are keeping last saturday's memories of you and your girls meeting jim alive and well preserved!

will you be coming to any of the nyc 5 at 5 shows?

Quoteyou are a star!  thanks.

hope u are keeping last saturday's memories of you and your girls meeting jim alive and well preserved!

will you be coming to any of the nyc 5 at 5 shows?

Yeah, just added some photos from Newport to the johnnYYac website: http://johnnYYac.com

I'm watching out for a spare EU ticket to fall into my lap.  It would be the only one I could do, but that would mean sleeping in my car or driving home that night, unless some floor space opens up.

I've approached the limit of my wife's tolerance for shows and money spent (I recently figured that, from Nov '09 MoF through Oct. 15 MMJ @ Portland, I've spent over $2500 on shows, hotel, car rental, posters, and booze). She feels guilty when she considers spending $30 on a pastry pan.  So, we'll see.

very cool site.  my wife and i are going to the philly show in a few wks and i 2 pairs of tix for each of the 5 nights.  as of now i still don't have a partner for shows 1 and 5 so if can't find one easily i'd be happy to give you my 2nd ticket.

if he doesn't want it, i'm looking for another EU ticket...

Quoteif he doesn't want it, i'm looking for another EU ticket...

Penny, you're definitely in for all 5, right?  If you need another for a friend or whatever, I'd defer to you on headhunter's offer.  I'll keep my eyes open, and really appreciate the offer, h², but as I said, I may be pushing it at home to make a run to NYC for that last show.  Its a 4-5 hour drive and I can't justify the costs for staying over in the city.  Not that I won't keep trying, if it works out with minimal $$$ impact.  I love MMJ, but I love my wife infinitely more!

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Quoteif he doesn't want it, i'm looking for another EU ticket...

Penny, you're definitely in for all 5, right?  If you need another for a friend or whatever, I'd defer to you on headhunter's offer.  I'll keep my eyes open, and really appreciate the offer, h², but as I said, I may be pushing it at home to make a run to NYC for that last show.  Its a 4-5 hour drive and I can't justify the costs for staying over in the city.  Not that I won't keep trying, if it works out with minimal $$$ impact.  I love MMJ, but I love my wife infinitely more!

that's how i am, i have a friend that wants to go for EU night but if i don't get one for her, it's not a tragedy, so if you want it,...otherwise, yeah i'd love it.

i have tix for all 5 nights...(6 nights including carl's gig)....that felt good type...6 nights! i've never done anything 6 nights in a row. heh.

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Quoteif he doesn't want it, i'm looking for another EU ticket...

Penny, you're definitely in for all 5, right?  If you need another for a friend or whatever, I'd defer to you on headhunter's offer.  I'll keep my eyes open, and really appreciate the offer, h², but as I said, I may be pushing it at home to make a run to NYC for that last show.  Its a 4-5 hour drive and I can't justify the costs for staying over in the city.  Not that I won't keep trying, if it works out with minimal $$$ impact.  I love MMJ, but I love my wife infinitely more!

that's how i am, i have a friend that wants to go for EU night but if i don't get one for her, it's not a tragedy, so if you want it,...otherwise, yeah i'd love it.

i have tix for all 5 nights...(6 nights including carl's gig)....that felt good type...6 nights! i've never done anything 6 nights in a row. heh.

Well, aren't we a couple of polite little ninnies!  I suppose headhunter is out there thinking "don't I get a say in any of this?"  

both of you guys took nice pills today.

i'm going to all 5 and wasn't planning on who to take for  1 and 5 yet as it is still 2 months away.  not afraid that i can't find someone but if one of you needed it for yourself, i'd be happy to part with one to help a true dedicated fan.  otherwise i can indoctrinate a newbie.

johnny, i live in ny (long island anyway) and could probably also offer u a place to stay if need be.  i'd have to ask my wife but she would probably be fine.  she saw the pix of you and yim and your girls and her smile was as big as mine..he was with me at merriweather and newport and will also be at philly.  she met bluesky at newport and thinks mmj fans are the nicest people (she is pretty smart).

Quoteboth of you guys took nice pills today.

i'm going to all 5 and wasn't planning on who to take for  1 and 5 yet as it is still 2 months away.  not afraid that i can't find someone but if one of you needed it for yourself, i'd be happy to part with one to help a true dedicated fan.  otherwise i can indoctrinate a newbie.

johnny, i live in ny (long island anyway) and could probably also offer u a place to stay if need be.  i'd have to ask my wife but she would probably be fine.  she saw the pix of you and yim and your girls and her smile was as big as mine..he was with me at merriweather and newport and will also be at philly.  she met bluesky at newport and thinks mmj fans are the nicest people (she is pretty smart).

Dude, this is very nice.  I will talk to Dr. Yac, the wife (PhD toxicologist).  Its very generous of you, if your better half is cool with it.  I'll email or PM you soon.  If you have a better use for the ticket, don't hold it on my account, but its okay if you do.  ;)

my wife would be fine.  it would take us about an hour to get home after the show and you could leave anytime early sunday morning to drive home.  big enough house that we could easily make room for you.  could even show you the various mmj posters from shows including the one from boston we have that we couldn't make (despite having awesome seats)

Quotemy wife would be fine.  it would take us about an hour to get home after the show and you could leave anytime early sunday morning to drive home.  big enough house that we could easily make room for you.  could even show you the various mmj posters from shows including the one from boston we have that we couldn't make (despite having awesome seats)

Boston '08?  My first show.  I just got the poster a couple of months ago.

i remember-- u had told me once.  

i traded 2 front row seats for a poster after out trip fell apart a few hours before the show.  

seeing them at msg on nye a few months later made up for it.

Quotei remember-- u had told me once.  

i traded 2 front row seats for a poster after out trip fell apart a few hours before the show.  

seeing them at msg on nye a few months later made up for it.

I bet.  I was new to the MMJ scene and not ready to make the run to NYC, though you live nearby, which helps.  Made up for it this April and again in August and October.  

We are crazy, huh?  I talked to an old friend of mine tonight.  Like my other close friends, he can't get into the Jacket, says its Jim's voice among other things.  They all respect my devotion and obsession, but its not for them.  

Sucks not having many old friends to turn on to MMJ, but I've met some cool people, in person and virtually, from all over the world.  That is very cool.  Case in point, h².  

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Quotei remember-- u had told me once.  

i traded 2 front row seats for a poster after out trip fell apart a few hours before the show.  

seeing them at msg on nye a few months later made up for it.

I bet.  I was new to the MMJ scene and not ready to make the run to NYC, though you live nearby, which helps.  Made up for it this April and again in August and October.  

We are crazy, huh?  I talked to an old friend of mine tonight.  Like my other close friends, he can't get into the Jacket, [highlight]says its Jim's voice [/highlight]among other things.  They all respect my devotion and obsession, but its not for them.  

Sucks not having many old friends to turn on to MMJ, but I've met some cool people, in person and virtually, from all over the world.  That is very cool.  Case in point, h².  

Jim's voice as a reason NOT to like it?! Oh dear, what is the world coming to?  :o There is no hope for the poor man...  ;) Have you showed him Okonokos?  :-?

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Quotei remember-- u had told me once.  

i traded 2 front row seats for a poster after out trip fell apart a few hours before the show.  

seeing them at msg on nye a few months later made up for it.

I bet.  I was new to the MMJ scene and not ready to make the run to NYC, though you live nearby, which helps.  Made up for it this April and again in August and October.  

We are crazy, huh?  I talked to an old friend of mine tonight.  Like my other close friends, he can't get into the Jacket, [highlight]says its Jim's voice [/highlight]among other things.  They all respect my devotion and obsession, but its not for them.  

Sucks not having many old friends to turn on to MMJ, but I've met some cool people, in person and virtually, from all over the world.  That is very cool.  Case in point, h².  

Jim's voice as a reason NOT to like it?! Oh dear, what is the world coming to?  :o There is no hope for the poor man...  ;) Have you showed him Okonokos?  :-?

This particular friend, whom I've known since 4th grade, mirrors comments made by two other life-long buddies- that can't stand the voice.  I KNOW!  Go figure.  I asked him if I could send him the Charleston DVDs or Okonokos.  He said, honestly, he wouldn't watch them.  He actually lived with my family for a year following an ugly divorce.  I gave him a sizable collection of MMJ.  He says he hasn't listened to it since the first listen.  

I hate making comparisons, but these same three good friends have accompanied me to many a show, including Neil Young and the Grateful Dead, oh, and Bob Dylan.  To complain that Jim James's voice is "irritating" when he often sounds like N. Young and infinitely better vocally then Garcia or Dylan, I'm at a loss.  Still, it is a common response.

It seems you either love MMJ 105% or you can't stand 'em.  More for us, I guess.