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My Morning Jacket => The Music => Topic started by: wakebord on Jul 03, 2010, 12:09 PM

Title: Next Album's Sound
Post by: wakebord on Jul 03, 2010, 12:09 PM
Obviously no one knows when and if the band will make a new album.  I assume they will make one, and hopefully it will come out before the end of 2011.  That being said, what direction do you guys (and girls) think the album will take.  The recent comps that the band has been on have had a distinct country/folk sound -- covers of "All the Best" and "Lullabies, Legends, and Lies" on the John Prine and Shel Silverstein albums were absolutely beautiful.  They also played "Friends Again" at the show in Alabama, which had a slower, lighter sound to it than the last few albums.  I'm wondering if the 7-10 minute bangers like Dondante, Steam Engine, Run Thru, etc are things of the past?  I sure hope not.  Obviously, with the covers they have done, the song is confined to the original artist's boundaries in a way, but MMJ makes them sound like their own.  Thoughts?
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: el_chode on Jul 06, 2010, 06:46 PM
I fully expect something firmly rooted in classic rock and roll sounds build on their traditional foundations. I don't expect it to be too experimental, and I do expect it to be a template for live performances. In fact, I think I fully anticipate the future of the band to be like Phish - unoffensive, remarkably unremarkable albums that you can't really find fault with, but set the listener up for epic live performances. I don't consider EU to have a cohesive sound, but I do consider the rest of the albums to each have their own unique angle. However, I do consider EU to be written in a less-experimental, more traditional rock format. I think the next album will combine both.

When I say classic, I don't mean like the radio format of Zep, CCR, etc, but just classic songmanship, like the Zombies, Replacements, or the Stones
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: ALady on Jul 07, 2010, 01:01 PM
I think it will bring the funk.
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: Nikkogino on Jul 07, 2010, 08:07 PM
QuoteI think it will bring the funk.

i think it will be who cares what i think it will be.

i would like some country though.
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: DaFunkyPrecedent on Jul 08, 2010, 11:14 PM
it's going to be 13 awesome songs - it's going to sound professional, it's going to be obtainable, appealing, popular and moving.  It's going to be Rollingstones number 9 album of the year and Pitchfork will give it an 8.2 claiming it to be "the album that brought MMJ back to the rooted music where they belong".  As fans we will adore it but will have to face the fact that we now have to share this band with even more people - but we'll remind ourselves that we still have "Phone Went West" and no one can take that away from us.  Their tour will be in 3D.
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: EasyRyder on Jul 09, 2010, 02:24 AM
Quoteit's going to be 13 awesome songs - it's going to sound professional, it's going to be obtainable, appealing, popular and moving.  It's going to be Rollingstones number 9 album of the year and Pitchfork will give it an 8.2 claiming it to be "the album that brought MMJ back to the rooted music where they belong".  As fans we will adore it but will have to face the fact that we now have to share this band with even more people - but we'll remind ourselves that we still have "Phone Went West" and no one can take that away from us.  Their tour will be in 3D.

I don't think you could be more right...no matter what the sound of the new album will be, the thing that sets this band apart is that so far the intimacy of the shows has remained.
Whether the tour is "in 3D" or not, or if more and more people show up to only hear the hits, the feeling and vibe is always there. I think the substance of the music, regardless of the style, will keep the experience real.
Since EU was arguably their most popularly accessible album, I'm just hoping this next one will ask just a little bit more from the "new" audience...
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: The DARK on Jul 09, 2010, 03:32 AM
I get a feeling, based off of Friends Again, Dear Wife and their MSG NYE covers, that they're headed towards a "classic pop" sound. It always seems to have been a love of Jim's, and with their current position, I think they're poised to do it.

That said, I don't expect Jim's songwriting template to change too much. He just writes whenever he is inspired to do so, and the song is not dependent on the "sound" of an album. A Jim song will always sound like a Jim song.
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: weeniebeenie on Jul 09, 2010, 08:13 AM
QuoteI get a feeling, based off of Friends Again, Dear Wife and their MSG NYE covers, that they're headed towards a "classic pop" sound. It always seems to have been a love of Jim's, and with their current position, I think they're poised to do it.
I hope they do something like this.
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: jones on Jul 09, 2010, 08:53 AM
QuoteI get a feeling, based off of Friends Again, Dear Wife and their MSG NYE covers, that they're headed towards a "classic pop" sound. It always seems to have been a love of Jim's, and with their current position, I think they're poised to do it.

That said, I don't expect Jim's songwriting template to change too much. He just writes whenever he is inspired to do so, and the song is not dependent on the "sound" of an album. A Jim song will always sound like a Jim song.

You are wise beyond your years.
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: Tracy 3000 on Jul 09, 2010, 11:05 AM
I would love a dark, brooding, 9 minute heavy metal song.

I mean, when is Yim going to unleash his inner War Pigs?


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTRMZk-l_VY[/media]
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: Penny Lane on Jul 09, 2010, 11:22 AM
power pop or smoove jazz
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: columba78 on Jul 10, 2010, 05:25 AM
Is there any indication if MMJ are working on a new record ?
Or all busy on sideprojekts and concerts ?
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: DaFunkyPrecedent on Jul 10, 2010, 12:38 PM
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QuoteI get a feeling, based off of Friends Again, Dear Wife and their MSG NYE covers, that they're headed towards a "classic pop" sound. It always seems to have been a love of Jim's, and with their current position, I think they're poised to do it.
I hope they do something like this.

For sure.  Jim loves the classics, the songs everybody knows and everybody can relate to.  I can see him really trying to hunker down his writing style, making it more cohesive and to the point (I'm Amazed style rather than Dondonte style).  As you get older, you get more confident in your skillz and it is with this very apperant confidence I am 100% certain Jim James and The Boys' will make a classic record in the near future that will stand  out for the rest of time, an album that will taste good on everybodies pallet.
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: Tracy 3000 on Jul 10, 2010, 02:37 PM
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QuoteI get a feeling, based off of Friends Again, Dear Wife and their MSG NYE covers, that they're headed towards a "classic pop" sound. It always seems to have been a love of Jim's, and with their current position, I think they're poised to do it.
I hope they do something like this.

For sure.  Jim loves the classics, the songs everybody knows and everybody can relate to.  I can see him really trying to hunker down his writing style, making it more cohesive and to the point (I'm Amazed style rather than Dondonte style).  As you get older, you get more confident in your skillz and it is with this very apperant confidence I am 100% certain Jim James and The Boys' will make a classic record in the near future that will stand  out for the rest of time, an album that will taste good on everybodies pallet.

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Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: ALady on Jul 10, 2010, 04:15 PM
<3 Tracy   ;D
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: BH on Jul 11, 2010, 01:23 AM
QuoteI would love a dark, brooding, 9 minute heavy metal song.

I mean, when is Yim going to unleash his inner War Pigs?


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTRMZk-l_VY[/media]

I would LOVE a metalish ep at least!
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: el_chode on Jul 12, 2010, 06:23 PM
You know, something heavy and brooding would do me a huge favor in convincing some friends that these guys can shred. The problem with some of these friends is that they're extremely narrow minded and need to be punched in the face instantly. And when I say instantly, they can't wait long enough for Run Thru to pick up and the intro into OBH might cause them to lose interest.

I'll be all like "these guys can knock the walls down at MSG and then they'll go listen to something and typically just come across Touch Me Pt. 2 or Golden
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: Honest Man on Jul 13, 2010, 12:36 PM
Each album has a different sound. I am always ready to see what comes out next. I will say this - MORE REVERB!!!
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: e_wind on Jul 13, 2010, 02:41 PM
Quote As fans we will adore it but will have to face the fact that we now have to share this band with even more people - but we'll remind ourselves that we still have "Phone Went West" and no one can take that away from us.

mmj is the pearl jam of this decade. i honestly believe that. and they will be fucking huge. and they will be the only band that is still talked about from this decade when we're all dead.
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: My Morning Coffee on Jul 13, 2010, 04:22 PM
Quote
QuoteI would love a dark, brooding, 9 minute heavy metal song.

I mean, when is Yim going to unleash his inner War Pigs?


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTRMZk-l_VY[/media]

I would LOVE a metalish ep at least!

Leave the bizarre metal attempts to Ryan Adams please  :P

I'll take whatever I get though and will listen to it thoroughly.
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: Tracy 3000 on Jul 14, 2010, 12:54 AM
Quote
Quote
QuoteI would love a dark, brooding, 9 minute heavy metal song.

I mean, when is Yim going to unleash his inner War Pigs?


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTRMZk-l_VY[/media]

I would LOVE a metalish ep at least!

Leave the bizarre metal attempts to Ryan Adams please  :P

I'll take whatever I get though and will listen to it thoroughly.

I'm not talking about "bizarre metal attempts by Ryan Adams". We're talking my Morning Jacket, not Ryan Adams.

Jim has it in him, I know he does. They covered Sabbath in the early days. It's in him and it needs to come out.
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: Ruckus on Jul 14, 2010, 07:47 PM
Yes, a brooding, metal influenced album would be nice.  Kinda like the glimpses in Cobra?

I definitely agree with Choder that EU was disjointed at best and look forward to a much more coherent album.

Of course I would love a prog influenced album of nothing but epics.  Maybe six songs clocking in at around 70 minutes.  I can't say that I'm a friend of Friends Again or their 70s R&B/Funk/Soul covers so I sure hope they don't attempt to go in that direction.  BUT, if they want to go new school, a more dancy type with Touch Me Pt. II type songs wouldn't be so bad.

C'mon.  What if they had released a single album that only contained Steam Engine, Rollin' Back, Dondante, Cobra and Touch Me Pt. II type songs.  That's where we're headed.  Screw radio accessibility.
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: el_chode on Jul 14, 2010, 08:31 PM
QuoteYes, a brooding, metal influenced album would be nice.  Kinda like the glimpses in Cobra?

I definitely agree with Choder that EU was disjointed at best and look forward to a much more coherent album.

Of course I would love a prog influenced album of nothing but epics.  Maybe six songs clocking in at around 70 minutes.  I can't say that I'm a friend of Friends Again or their 70s R&B/Funk/Soul covers so I sure hope they don't attempt to go in that direction.  BUT, if they want to go new school, a more dancy type with Touch Me Pt. II type songs wouldn't be so bad.

C'mon.  What if they had released a single album that only contained Steam Engine, Rollin' Back, Dondante, Cobra and Touch Me Pt. II type songs.  That's where we're headed.  Screw radio accessibility.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I'm waiting for my instrumental. And I'll consider any song that has no more words than there are in the chorus to "Wordless Chorus" to be an instrumental track.

I doubt we'll get 100% epics though, but I doubt even more there'd be an album that doesn't have at least one song that turns out to be absolutely monstrous, whether it be studio or live.
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: wakebord on Jul 16, 2010, 05:41 PM
well whatever its supposed to sound like, from Jim's mouth in the presser for the Louisville show, they're "workin' on it."
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: Honest Man on Jul 19, 2010, 12:24 PM
MORE REVERB!!!!
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: SmokinShootin on Jul 29, 2010, 02:57 AM
I'm hoping for some more soul.
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: columba78 on Jul 29, 2010, 05:33 AM
One third songs like "One Big Holiday", "Off the Record"
the other third slow songs like "Librarian" and "Smokin`from Shootin`"
the last third songs like "Touch Me I am going to scream Part 2"

That would be my perfect MMJ record :)
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: EasyRyder on Jul 31, 2010, 02:54 PM
I'm hoping for a deliciously classic Motown sound twisted into sweet rocking goodness. I'm feeling an upbeat album.

If this doesn't happen though, the album must be dark, monstrously huge and brooding...but I think that was what Evil Urges was meant to be.

As a side note: Does anyone know how long it took them to record Evil Urges? I've seen interviews where they said the album was put together quicker than any other. I only want a time frame upon which to base my judgments regarding when the next one will pop out.
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: SaraBananaBear on Jul 31, 2010, 05:05 PM
QuoteI'm hoping for a deliciously classic Motown sound twisted into sweet rocking goodness. I'm feeling an upbeat album.

If this doesn't happen though, the album must be dark, monstrously huge and brooding...but I think that was what Evil Urges was meant to be.

As a side note: Does anyone know how long it took them to record Evil Urges? I've seen interviews where they said the album was put together quicker than any other. I only want a time frame upon which to base my judgments regarding when the next one will pop out.

Well, in an interview with Vanity Fair Jim said that the album slowly came together over a couple of years. And I think they spent June 2007 in a rented cabin/studio (Hideaway studio) in Colorado Springs making demo recordings. During this visit the band had 22 or 23 songs that they played around and learned. And in an interview with Spin magazine Jim said that they boiled those down to 18 and then again down to 14.

But as for the actual recording period once done with this, I'm not sure.  :-?
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: blucas on Aug 15, 2010, 05:26 PM
...though i love the handful of great songs that came from EU, i'm hoping the "whitman's sampler" approach was a single album experiment.  

JJ and the band seemed to have an 'old school' mmj swagger at SDSU the other night, from the way they attacked the songs, to the new song Circuital, to the crazy incredible setlist.  I look forward to a new album that echoes this!!!
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: headhunter on Aug 15, 2010, 08:19 PM

the next album will sound like

..... my favorite album of the year!   that's all that matters.
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: Soulshine on Aug 16, 2010, 11:20 PM
Whatever I think of will be surpassed by what they deliver, it always is.
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: SaraBananaBear on Aug 17, 2010, 06:27 AM
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the next album will sound like

..... my favorite album of the year!   that's all that matters.

I agree with this!  :D
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: Erik26 on Aug 17, 2010, 09:02 AM
Ciruital is so good. I can see the new album being more accessible to new fans than EU was.  
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: Bigsky on Aug 19, 2010, 10:29 AM
So I think it's safe to say that Circuital will be on the new album. With that said, I think we are in for yet another sound from MMJ. If you compare Circuital to EU, it is hard to find any likeness. I love how MMJ is always changing and growing and opening my ears to their chilling music.

Maybe Circuital is the title track to the new album... :o
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: Penny Lane on Aug 19, 2010, 11:09 AM
tell me, spirit....is it?

'sir kwee tull'
'sir cute-ol'
'sir keh-tull'



Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: Bigsky on Aug 19, 2010, 11:23 AM
Quotetell me, spirit....is it?

'sir kwee tull'
'sir cute-ol'
'sir keh-tull'




sometimes JJ sings circuits, but in the begining it does sound like 's-keh-tull'  :D
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: capt. scotty on Aug 19, 2010, 04:18 PM
Quotetell me, spirit....is it?

'sir kwee tull'
'sir cute-ol'
'sir keh-tull'

sounds like "sir-q-itall" to me
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: Penny Lane on Aug 19, 2010, 04:30 PM
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Quotetell me, spirit....is it?

'sir kwee tull'
'sir cute-ol'
'sir keh-tull'

sounds like "sir-q-itall" to me

thanks, capt.. ahhh 4 syllables makes more sense...!
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: jones on Aug 19, 2010, 04:36 PM
Click me.  Hear me.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?circui02=circuital
Title: Re: Next Album's Sound
Post by: Bigsky on Aug 19, 2010, 04:42 PM
QuoteClick me.  Hear me.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?circui02=circuital

Can you put a Jim James filter on that? ;D