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Title: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: mymorningjacket on May 31, 2006, 02:03 PM
is the buddy system the official MMJ fan club or is there something else?

 ???
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: yieldgirl on May 31, 2006, 04:11 PM
I signed up for the buddy system a few years ago and I have never once gotten an e-mail from them  :(

I do get my 10C e-mails all the time though  :D

do I need to organize this or something?
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: darkglow on May 31, 2006, 07:05 PM
if there's one thing i can gripe about it's the fact that MMJ fans are very in the dark about alot of things.. there's hardly ever any official news releases from the band and if there are any it's old news by the time they post it... release dates.. show confirmations.. compilations.. TV appearances.. etc etc etc..

.. end of gripe..
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: Angry Ewok on May 31, 2006, 07:34 PM
Yea, I've been a member of the "club" or whatever it is for over a year - and have only once gotten any sort of e-mail from them. It was related to Z's album release.

Oh well, the fans will just continue to rely on one another for second-round info, until we have a solid connection with the band through the fan club, or whatever...

Hell, I sent management an e-mail several months ago about the Boston Pops gig, and still haven't gotten a response back from them on that. I don't even know why I bother complaining about it when I know it falls upon deaf ears.

Speakings of.

Do you think the guys (My Morning Jacket) could give me a ride from Bonnaroo to Boston, to see their show at the Pops? I'd much rather hitch a ride with them (hell yea!) than beg random people for a lift...  I'm serious.
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: corey on May 31, 2006, 08:00 PM
QuoteHell, I sent management an e-mail several months ago about the Boston Pops gig, and still haven't gotten a response back from them on that. I don't even know why I bother complaining about it when I know it falls upon deaf ears.

Look man. I'm not trying to be a dick, but did your question/comment to the management warrant a response? I'm sure they get shit-tons of e-mail. I know that they try to respond to as many of them as possible. There's lots of stuff going on in the MMJ world right now, so they may not have had time to respond. Or maybe they got, meant to respond, but were in a hurry and couldn't do it at the time and it slipped through the cracks.

The MMJ community is very lucky. People get responses from the MGMT and the band quite often. You don't get that from most bands these days.

I wouldn't take it as anything personal if they didn't respond.
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: TEO on May 31, 2006, 08:02 PM
Angry Ewok-see you up front!
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: ChiefOKONO on May 31, 2006, 08:49 PM
i also haven't got anything from the buddy system thing...
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: yieldgirl on May 31, 2006, 09:09 PM
I got a reply from MMJ mangement  the same  day I sent it.

If they need someone to do this buddy system thiing, I could do it.

Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: wellfleet on May 31, 2006, 09:23 PM
i actually started a thread about this very same topic a few months ago about how it would be great to have an official fan club with exclusive merch and licensing etc. but nothing ever came of it.
then again, i'm sure the management team has a lot on its hands with the band having blown up in the last year.
in the meantime, i guess the Forum is our fan club, and it's pretty freaking cool.
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: corey on May 31, 2006, 09:26 PM
I think it's a super idea. All around. Can we organize something like this ourselves? I don't know the ins and outs of all of it, but I'd be more than happy to contribute in any way possible.
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: EC on May 31, 2006, 11:26 PM
QuoteI think it's a super idea. All around. Can we organize something like this ourselves? I don't know the ins and outs of all of it, but I'd be more than happy to contribute in any way possible.
oh corey, you make me cry.  there you go and organize and get that tribute stuff up and then you're so enthusiastic and energetic about stuff.  you're just a swell dude. :)

angry ewok, your post totally pisses me off.  not only is it self-important, but it's also ridiculous.  i've met you in real life, so i'm not trying to start shit with you, but go back and read what you wrote and think about whether or not you were being cool.  god. damn.

does any other band put their fucking email addresses on their website?  is any other band more approachable?  give me a break.  if you're nice to your fans and they shit on you, do you think you're going to want to be nice to them anymore?  

i'm just really mad at this because i've only ever seen extreme awesomeness and down-to-eartheness and kind-heartedness from everyone i've ever met in relation to this band, and it really makes me mad when i see comments like that.

okay, let us remember one thing:  the way this works is that the band makes music, and we love to listen to it.  those are the rules.  anything beyond that is extra and lovely, and is not required.

the. end.
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: darkglow on May 31, 2006, 11:43 PM
again i dont have many gripes.. for i too have recieved a response to a piece of email i've sent.. but you know damn well there's way too little "official" news postings on this website.. most of the information we get is secondhand.. case in point i never saw any official news release about the song that MMJ contributed to the second elizabethtown OST... and there's nothing on the website even mentioning the fact that the jacket is going on letterman in JUST A FEW DAYS. there's probably a million minions out there who'd love to type up an official MMJ blurb to post to a mailing list or a recent news page or something..

not bitching or griping.. just suggesting i guess
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: EC on Jun 01, 2006, 12:17 AM
Quotebut you know damn well there's way too little "official" news postings on this website..
i don't know damn well anything, if you were talking to me.  i don't feel the need to have official updates on things.  maybe that's me.  i find it really annoying, and disrespectful, when people feel they're owed things.  i also find it frustrating all the comments about management and about marketing, and we all know those have been going around for a long time.

maaaaaaaaaybe there's a reason behind all this stuff.  maaaaaaaybe, just maybe we don't know the whole story, and maybe we just need to love the music and not care about things like letterman and the likes.  lest this be construed otherwise, i am only guessing here.  but, what, am i not going to like my morning jacket anymore because there wasn't an offical announcement of their appearance on david letterman?  am i going to ask them if i can get a ride with them from bonnaroo to boston?  why?  because i like the music suddenly i'm entitled to things like that?

let's break things down a bit.
1.  the press page used to be up and was taken down.  i believe mr. riny gave a reason for that.  i believe the reason was that we're supposed to think for ourselves.  i think that's an AWESOME reason, and we all know we can find press on google if we want to look for things like that.  the point was that the press ultimately doesn't matter, what matters is what we think.  i admire a decision like that.
2.  there have been a few cancellations on tours, etc. due to health reasons.  perhaps official news of shows takes longer because they want to make sure they're absolutely sure they can go.  wouldn't that actually be nicer to the fans?  same goes with talk shows.  that shit gets cancelled or pre-empted faster than a gunshot, and the damn backlash from it being official here, and then getting cancellation would be brutal.
3.  as far as the elizabethtown stuff, who cares?  do you like at dawn?  i do.  and if i don't know that there's a song in elizabethtown, that doesn't affect how i feel about at dawn.

i am not trying to be an asshole, i'm just questioning peoples' reasoning behind these demands, and their quickness to judge and condemn.

suggestions are cool, but how come they gotta be given with a bit of shit behind them?

love the music.  appreciate how it's affected your life.  maybe that's a message we're supposed to be getting, i don't know.  i really don't know, but i'm not going to sit around and make shitty comments when i have no idea how the operation works.
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: ycartrob on Jun 01, 2006, 12:37 AM
I don't know what's up with you idiots, but I am pretty tight with the band. All the boys e-mail me every night after the show and we talk some shit. When Jim was sick, Patrick, Tommy, Bo, Carl and Brucee all took turns driving down to Nashville and tucking me in every night, telling me Jim James stories until I fell asleep. And they'd do things like wash and wax my car, bathe the dogs, wash my clothes, etc... on their way out. Patrick did drink all my IBC root beer one night and there was that one time a couple of my Rush CD's showed up missing...other than that, they were true southern gentlemen.
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: corey on Jun 01, 2006, 02:19 AM
Holy shit, I hadn't even read that part of the post. I think I drifted off after "I didn't get a response from mgmt".
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: dragonboy on Jun 01, 2006, 06:33 AM
Quotei don't know damn well anything, if you were talking to me.
Gee EC, I swear I can taste the venom in your posts sometimes  :-/

Granted, Angry Ewok's post about hitching a lift was pretty stupid & maybe deserved what he got but I'm pretty sure Darkglow was refering to the universal you, not you in particular.
He has some valid points & has every right to express them without being jumped on like that.
His post wasn't rude or out of line & he even made a point of being careful by saying that he's 'not bitching or griping.. just suggesting i guess'

Why is it that anytime anyone is in the slightest bit critical of the band they got attacked like this?
MMJ are hands down my fav band in the world & have been for a few years now.
Do i wish the news page had more news sometimes (like the poolside interview that I found the other day)? Yes I do..but obviously there is a reason for this info not being posted & I respect that. I'm not attacking CC or the band or anyone involved & neither was Darkglow.




Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: SMc55 on Jun 01, 2006, 06:57 AM
Quote
Why is it that anytime anyone is in the slightest bit critical of the band they got attacked like this?
I always find that really sad.

Quote
MMJ are hands down my fav band in the world & have been for a few years now.
Me too, and the two things (fav band/questioning things) are not mutually exclusive.
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: EC on Jun 01, 2006, 07:41 AM
Quote
Gee EC, I swear I can taste the venom in your posts sometimes  :-/
thanks, dragonboy.

QuoteI'm pretty sure Darkglow was refering to the universal you, not you in particular.
kinda seemed otherwise, and if you'll notice, my response was mirroring the way he'd written it down.

QuoteHe has some valid points & has every right to express them without being jumped on like that.
i didn't jump on darkglow.  

QuoteWhy is it that anytime anyone is in the slightest bit critical of the band they got attacked like this?
i think that's a silly thing to say.  why am i not allowed to respond to things that i see that bug me?

QuoteDo i wish the news page had more news sometimes (like the poolside interview that I found the other day)? Yes I do..but obviously there is a reason for this info not being posted & I respect that. I'm not attacking CC or the band or anyone involved & neither was Darkglow.
again, i wasn't attacking darkglow.  i was responding to stuff i've been reading over the months.

my anger started from a.e.'s post.  and guys, i still to this day don't understand why i'm not allowed to respond to things that i see that i think are wrong.

yeah.  i think i'm done in here.  i'll go slither away from all this. (<---trying to make light of the venom comment)
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Jun 01, 2006, 07:56 AM
It's simple, really.

The Buddy System was intended to be an organic, grassroots network of fans connecting to one another in order to "spread the word" about all things MMJ.  As time has wore on, the fanbase has become quite established in its own right, without much prodding or organization from management or otherwise.   Does that mean the Buddy System is dead?  Not that I'm aware of.

As for the notion that the fans aren't updated, I think that's a perception, not reality.  News, real news about shows and whatnot, is posted here as it becomes available.  I'm not sure why people think nonexistent news, lies, half truths, or total speculation is being witheld from them-official news gets posted here when it's official.

As for the idea of a proper fan club, methinks the idea of charging money (like proper fan clubs do) isn't in the spectrum of possibilities at this juncture.  They get expensive, and the idea of an MMJ decoder ring sent to fans seems kinda dorky, IMHO.   The fan base of this band is the happiest, most natural disorganization of things, and maybe it's meant to be that way for now.  We're approaching year seven in the MMJ universe, and I think that when the time comes for an official fan club, it will spring up naturally, as it should.

Just my two cents.
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: aMD on Jun 01, 2006, 08:51 AM
Most know my opinion about mmj's mangament.  Most also know that there is a cliche on this board who believe my opinion is shit while there opinions ought to be free from scrutiny.  In my absence, the cliche has sank their teeth into other great mmj fans, which is sad.  I'll go back under my rock now, but I just wanted to point out that the unwritten rule on this forum: everyone's opinion matters on this board unless you're critiquing the band (or their mangaement) or if your handle is EC, Conaway (Amelia Bedelia, et al), or Corey (Olwiggum).  If you're critiquing the band your opinion is shit and if you're part of the clique your opinion is fact.  I'll just disappear again so  that the fanboy clique can continue to reign supreme with fangs out.
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Jun 01, 2006, 08:53 AM
You are a small, misguided soul, my friend.  Grow some balls and call us in the morning.
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Jun 01, 2006, 09:00 AM
No, really-this thread isn't about you or your precious "opinion"-of which we're all entitled to-but that's what every thread is about, isn't it?  I'm looking at the title-MMJ Fan Club-and the most annoying person in the MMJ universe replies with some public masturbation about how his views aren't respected.

I'm thinking you must be about 19, by the way you act.  Good luck under the rock.
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Jun 01, 2006, 09:23 AM
(not that there's anything wrong with being 19, true believers...just that immaturity often informs his posts)
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: ycartrob on Jun 01, 2006, 09:33 AM
glad to see aMD back. Yes, I gave him some fun ribbing but I was hoping he'd get over it and not take this so seriously. The clique he refers to is the folks who understand that what is said here is OK. That ALL that is said here is OK.  All of us here can say whatever we want, defend whomever we wish, and believe the sun rises in the west. I can actually defend any and every thing the band and mgt does.

And it's OK.

It's sad that aMD reads the posts here and doesn't comment. Sad that he feels he has to read and not participate (that baffles me).

I accept everyone here (Despite their faults) as I am gracious that people do the same to me.

If people didn't get mad at each other and say shit (some of which we might regret, some not) then we wouldn't be human. That's what we do. The key is to hold that conflict and maintain the tightness of fans. Life does not exist without conflict. Good luck if you think otherwise.

I have never understood why someone could get their feelings hurt here (someone want to explain that to me?). Of all the shit going on in the real world, this seems like the place to let it roll, and no one gets hurt.

Let it roll.

sincerely,

Tracy
Fanboy Clique
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: ratsprayer on Jun 01, 2006, 09:37 AM
ok well some people post to voice complaints about this or that, and some people post to say they think such opinion is wrong.  in the end, we're all posting what we feel, so why is there a different level of acceptance between these posts?  we're all saying what's on our minds, be it good or bad.  
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: yieldgirl on Jun 01, 2006, 09:45 AM
Not that my opinion counts or anything, but I think they should have things like MMJ being on Letterman on the main page of their website.

That way, casual fans (or for that matter hard core fans) that don't like browsing message boards know that the band will be on.  

Oh and lot of people that I know that have gone to the Pearl Jam shows with MMJ opening.,have told me that MMJ has melted their faces off.  And that they would love to see a whole show of just MMJ.   :)
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: CC on Jun 01, 2006, 09:50 AM
QuoteNot that my opinion counts or anything, but I think they should have things like MMJ being on Letterman on the main page of their website.

don't worry, things like that always end up on the main page.

and yes, things like that get out on the message board a lot sooner. it happens with every band. that's the way the internet works and it's one of the things that makes a message board so cool ;)
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: mymorningjacket on Jun 01, 2006, 09:53 AM
oh geez look what i started

Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: Coltrane on Jun 01, 2006, 10:41 AM
wow. I've said it before, and I'll say it again....if you critique THIS band, THIS amazing fucking group of guys (by faulting mgmt. you're faulting the band) then you should be ashamed of yourself.  This band will do anything for their fans (go searching for my post about the first time I saw them with my wife and what they did for us) and the "Management" knows this. This isn't some corporate band with strings attached. This is a family, plain and simple.


ass.
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: marktwain on Jun 01, 2006, 11:29 AM
I think a MMJ decoder ring would be neat-o!  I think it should be designed based on the Memphis Mafia's TCB/Flash  - but with MMJ instead of TCB.
(http://www.americantrilogyshow.com/sitebuilder/images/000_TCBLogoGOLD-168x207.jpg)
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: BH on Jun 01, 2006, 11:39 AM
Who needs a fan club when you have LaurieBlue! :D
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: jrat on Jun 01, 2006, 12:04 PM
Bermuda is right! that exactly what i was thinking, and maybe she doesnt get enough thanks. so here it is from me, thank you Laurie for all your great werk regarding articles and news. Laurie for honorary fan club president :D

and as far as this family run band concept, its incredibly refreshing, and one of the reasons i listen to every peice of their music i can, and post on this site. im kinda the little redheaded stepchild of this family ;)
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Jun 01, 2006, 01:18 PM
QuoteI think a MMJ decoder ring would be neat-o!  I think it should be designed based on the Memphis Mafia's TCB/Flash  - but with MMJ instead of TCB.
(http://www.americantrilogyshow.com/sitebuilder/images/000_TCBLogoGOLD-168x207.jpg)

okay, you got me....

(http://www.jewishworldreview.com/images/decoder_ring.jpg)
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: Angry Ewok on Jun 01, 2006, 01:55 PM
Ouch. Didn't think I had that one coming.

I try not to take getting multiple body slams all that personal. People can get their feelings hurt pretty easy, though (yes, even online) - after the initial sting, us thin-skinned folk wonder wether or not we're even wanted here to hang around anymore (just ask aMD about that).

Depending on what kind of person you are, you can take it alot more or less personal when it's coming from people you've actually met in real life... I'm not sure where I fall in that category, really, though - because I tend to take shit personally (especially from people that I sincerely like), as I'd like to have the rep. for being a nice guy... not some stupid/self-obsessed person who thinks he deserves by birth-right an answered e-mail, a ride from the ban's tour bus, a free autographed vinyl, a locke of Jim James' hair, and maybe a back massage from Patrick.

Anyway... I really didn't think what I said (about feeling like irrelevant bitching falling on death ears) was all that horrible or stupid, but I bet the folks who went after me didn't think what they said was all that harsh, either. That's how it goes. No big deal. I'm not going to drop off of the face of the earth and stop making attempts at being social at the shows, just because a tone was misread or I came off as a jerk one night online.

Annnywaysss....

I'd say MMJ could definately use some better news coverage, here and there. I like to know about TV appearances, interviews and album reviews, and new MMJ material on soundtracks, and that sort of thing. I ditto the thanking of god for Laurie, by the way.

It freaking bothers me so bad that even though nobody ever says anything about disliking the band just because the news department on their website isn't the most informative thing ever, or after months of waiting patiently there was no response to a question e-mailed to management, people can still get upset about it on a personal level, to the point of crucification. What's that all about? Are we being protective of the band, misreading tone, or what?


Maybe if I had made a compliment sandwich, I wouldn't have gotten so much flak? Whatya'll think?

Something good... After much demand, we've finally got a Merchandise page. Good for us, good for them. Finally I have a page to direct my buddies to when they ask what I want for my birthday.

Something that needs improvement... The News could be alot more involved and informative, and the "Fan Club" isn't really where it should be - right now less fanatic fans (not us folks, but our friends, family, etc) are relying on us for news and info that could be formed into a e-newsletter of sorts and shipped out to the "Fan Club" mailer-list (which, I guess, has been dormant since October).

Something good... The Forums are great. The community is strong in presence, the administration is very responsive, and overall there tends to be an extremelly friendly and personal, and helpful and fun vibe. See also: Fans Sing MMJ, See also: MMJ Tabsite, etc.


I'm gonna get offline and cry because you guys hate me now. And when I clamor up to the front row at Bonnaroo, you can expect an appropriate sad/hurt/pout face.

Like this -  :-[
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: ycartrob on Jun 01, 2006, 02:01 PM
thanks for the input ewok.

I like to kid around (a lot).

You know that.

rock Bonaroo for me! (I'm too old to tolerate it. Or maybe I'm a wus...)
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: corey on Jun 01, 2006, 02:14 PM
AE, as I said in my post, I wasn't trying to be a dick. You read that, right? I hope I didn't upset you... but you also surely saw where I was coming from with my post. Some things warrant getting a response and some don't. I'm not trying to belittle you by saying that you didn't deserve a response, I just can't think of another way to phrase my thoughts right now.

I'm not really gonna comment on anything else right now. I've had a lot of down time lately and a lot of stress and I'm obviously taking some of that aggression out on this board, which I don't wanna do. So I'll check back in with you folks next week sometime, hopefully after some of the shit has settled in my life.

Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: tdan on Jun 01, 2006, 02:14 PM
Any views or opinions presented in this thread are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the remaining forum members... ;)

I tried, but couldn't resist.  Anyone who has something, anything, to say about MMJ should be able to do so in these forums regardless of how absurd others of us may deem their comments.  Once I read a post that I personally do not like, I will skip over it in the future.  I highly recommend this practice as it will help keep you from getting bent out of shape over things you may not agree with.  People should not be made to feel unwelcome over a comment or gripe whichever side of the fence they are on.  
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: Angry Ewok on Jun 01, 2006, 02:22 PM
QuoteAE, as I said in my post, I wasn't trying to be a dick. You read that, right? I hope I didn't upset you... but you also surely saw where I was coming from with my post.

Yup, I see where you're coming from, and like I was PM-ing Meg about how disapointed I am that I came off so wrong in my first post. I hope you guys know just by my having been here over a year that I'm not disapointed in any way with the band... We're all extended family, if not for anything else, at least for the shared love for this music.

I was just about to shoot you a big novel of a PM saying don't worry, no hard feelings and much love, and all that good stuff.

Quoterock Bonaroo for me! (I'm too old to tolerate it. Or maybe I'm a wus...)

I shall rock it, and rock it well...

But you really should cave-in and come to Bonnaroo. 8)

Just don't think about the lack of showers until it's too late to turn back.

Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: TEO on Jun 01, 2006, 03:31 PM
Quotethanks for the input ewok.

I like to kid around (a lot).

You know that.

rock Bonaroo for me! (I'm too old to tolerate it. Or maybe I'm a wus...)
Tracy-you are not too old! I am 48.
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: BH on Jun 01, 2006, 03:54 PM
Quote

Maybe if I had made a compliment sandwich, I wouldn't have gotten so much flak? Whatya'll think?

 [

Actually AE, that was a criticism sandwich on compliment bread.  A very common mistake. ;)
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: wellfleet on Jun 01, 2006, 04:18 PM
the band doesn't owe its fans anything. they don't work for us, technically, they work for their record label. although they have graciously rewarded fans with all manners of awesomeness, it can be argued that they don't have to. they have every right to walk to and from shows whilst speaking to nobody, never give interviews or do appearances. hell, they don't even have to tour. the beatles stopped touring...

that said, from a purely financial/business perspective, it's GOOD for the band to have regular news updates on its Web site for the hardcore and for the casual fan. the casual fan doesn't have the drive to sift through a thousand Goggle pages to find the bit of info he wants, especially if he has nothing to go on.

in these cases, the forum has been invaluable in getting the rumour mill going and permitting members to find out info sooner than the official announcements. that's the Internet for ya. also, LaurieBlue has been incredible in digging out MMJ treasures all over the Web like a musical Indiana Jones.

but coming from the sales part of the music biz, i think it can only benefit the band, not the least bit financially, to keep us abreast of the most up-to-date info. they don't have to do it, but it's a *benefit* to *them*. we're certainly not entitled, but we would use that info to support the band.

1. by finding out about an album release earlier, we can help spread the word for a longer period of time, perhaps generating more sales
2. by finding out about concert dates earlier, we can make sure we have enough money put aside and time set aside to be able to attend. plus, to convince everyone and their granny and third cousin to come with
3. by finding out about a tv appearance, we can all program our Tivos, set the VCRs, stay home and watch, tell all our friends... this is good for the TV show because they will have a guaranteed audience of fans, which is good news to the show's advertisers, who see that this band can draw viewers, and so the TV show may want to invite this band again because it's profitable...
4. by having different merch in all sizes, you are in fact helping your best asset (the fan) promote the band, the tour, the albums, and the hip factor. if lots of MMJ shirts are walking around, it creates a buzz beyond the initial Z buzz that has died down

this is not a criticism of the band, because the band doesn't handle PR, marketing, advertising, or this site. wanting the latest info on the band to reach fans in the most likely place (the band's site!!) is completely understandable. i think the frustration with conflicting information is with the people responsible for the info flow, not the band members.

the first place a casual fan or a new fan will look is here, and those are the people you would most want to cater to. *i* don't need any prodding, and neither do most of the long-time fans. but we're a given...

Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: aMD on Jun 01, 2006, 04:44 PM
QuoteYou are a small, misguided soul, my friend.  Grow some balls and call us in the morning.

You've out-classed me once again, but this time I'm not sinking to your level.  I guess this was your opinion and your entitled to that.  You've reminded me why I left this board in the first place, because I'm jealous of your wisdom, old age, and tactful way of demeaning people.
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: marktwain on Jun 01, 2006, 05:01 PM
Quote

You've out-classed me once again, but this time I'm not sinking to your level.  I guess this was your opinion and your entitled to that.  You've reminded me why I left this board in the first place, because I'm jealous of your wisdom, old age, and tactful way of demeaning people.

*yawn*

Please, no one respond.  I don't want to see this silly shit get started again.  
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: ratsprayer on Jun 01, 2006, 05:14 PM
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*yawn*

Please, no one respond.  I don't want to see this silly shit get started again.  

out of spite, i'm going to respond.  

it is silly shit, and it wouldnt be such a problem if there wasnt an uneven playing field about opinions.  as i said, we all say whats on our minds, just stop taking it personally.  if you want to come kick my ass because i think certain mmj songs suck or im not a big fan of certain actions, then ill give you my address and my list of songs i dont like right now.  get over it.

i was a huge fan of radiohead back in the ok computer days, even going online on IRC and being in the radiohead channel for hours and hours a day.  most people back then, like myself, were 17-20 years old, and even they could handle some criticism of the band they worshipped.  this is the only band ive ever been a fan of where its illegal to say anything bad about them.  i understand loyalty, but not blind christian faith.   ::)
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: EC on Jun 01, 2006, 05:37 PM
it's me.  i set a shitty tone in here because i got mad and because i was a bit drunk last night.  i already pm'd the people who i was worried that i'd offended.

i'm a little offended by the blind christian faith comment, but i'll deal.  i'm very sorry for getting more creepy than i like.  i know why i like defending this band, and i don't see why that equals blindness, but i also don't really give a shit.  

anyhow, i like it here, sitting on my big cliquey thrown (;) wink wink WINK ho ho ho) and i have no problem with people airing their grievances as long as i'm allowed to air mine, and then others can air theirs about those ones, and then further i'll air on them.

but i think the fan club idea is fun and it would be a shame if it got destroyed because i got spazzy.  so as before, just don't damn listen to me, i can be a jerk sometimes (i'm allowed) and do what you want.  :)
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Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: ratsprayer on Jun 01, 2006, 05:46 PM
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i'm a little offended by the blind christian faith comment, but i'll deal.  i'm very sorry for getting more creepy than i like.  i know why i like defending this band, and i don't see why that equals blindness, but i also don't really give a shit.  


well that sucks.  i didnt mean to offend you, i was trying to offend christians.   :-/
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: tdan on Jun 01, 2006, 05:49 PM
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Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: aMD on Jun 01, 2006, 05:54 PM
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well that sucks.  i didnt mean to offend you, i was trying to offend christians.   :-/

It don't matter to Jesus!
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: marktwain on Jun 01, 2006, 06:04 PM
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out of spite, i'm going to respond.  

Did I do something to spite you? ???

Fuck.  

Yesterday I got called a douche, and today I'm spiting people and being invited to fights in Ohio.  I'm having a bad week.
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: wellfleet on Jun 01, 2006, 06:13 PM
go to Ohio, friend, they're all pussies there anyway! although i have the feeling that ratsprayer fights dirty... nevermind, douse him in holy water, he'll melt...

Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: ratsprayer on Jun 01, 2006, 06:41 PM
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Did I do something to spite you? ???

Fuck.  

Yesterday I got called a douche, and today I'm spiting people and being invited to fights in Ohio.  I'm having a bad week.

nah sorry about that, it wasnt spite because of you, just general spite in regards to the bickering that was going on.  

that was an open invitation for anyone to come fight me.   ;)

i need to make my offending remarks more specific next time, i guess.   8)
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: marktwain on Jun 01, 2006, 06:45 PM
cool.  just watch out, 'cos you know I've got Miyagi skillzzzz... ;)
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: darkglow on Jun 01, 2006, 08:33 PM
it all started because of some suggestions from curiousity.. that's all..

i bet not many fans out there know that the live album is being released on september 29th.. or that the name of it is okonokos..

but then again it must not be important enough to post on the bands official website but instead just on the RCA RECORDS! website.

what kind of PR is that? i wasnt getting in attack mode or whatever mode you guys get ill about when i brought up a few legit questions but now i am.

i love this band.. and whoever said that bashing the management is one in the same as bashing the band members themselves is delusional.

maybe that's why i haven't posted much lately and just lurked around.. maybe my IP address will be banned in the morning.. who knows?

whatever.. i may go down on the ranking scale as far as loyal MMJ fans go with some of you but ..... LONG LIVE MMJ!

Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: dragonboy on Jun 01, 2006, 08:37 PM
Didn't know that!
Cheers for posting Darkglow, Okonokos? Does that mean anything?
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: yieldgirl on Jun 01, 2006, 08:56 PM
all I"m trying to do is get MMJ more exposure and get these guys to a comfortable level.

There a lot of people on the internet and the more info on MMJ's website  is all the better ( IMO).
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: SiOuxTribe on Jun 01, 2006, 10:30 PM
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well that sucks.  i didnt mean to offend you, i was trying to offend christians.   :-/


 ;D
I thought I was the only one on this board who would say something like that!
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: ratsprayer on Jun 01, 2006, 10:47 PM
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;D
I thought I was the only one on this board who would say something like that!

im glad to have some company!  
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Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: Coltrane on Jun 02, 2006, 12:14 AM
I remember the time before the Internet. When info about music was only on the radio and in Hit Parader magazine and when the Black Plague killed millions of people.


We should all be thankful that we can log on to here and get any news at all. If you need your information the very second it becomes fact, then you are a douche bag (and that's not a compliment because it's a hygenic product). Just relax, be patient. Everything's gonna be ok.


well. that's that. next topic, please!
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: ycartrob on Jun 02, 2006, 01:53 AM
ass
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: wellfleet on Jun 02, 2006, 01:56 PM
now, to clarify, are you calling coltrane an ass or is ass the next topic of discussion?
because "ass" should really get its own thread...
Title: Re: MMJ Fan Club
Post by: Coltrane on Jun 02, 2006, 03:10 PM
Usually, when i start spouting off politically or some philosophical heavy shit about the band or life in general, I just say "ass" at the end. or "penis" or "vagina." Just to remind myself and others that this is not the end of the world (though that will happen next tuesday!!). But for some reason, i forgot!!

Tracy just had my back!!! or, rather, had my ass. what? who said that?