Does anyone know MMJ's stance on covering the dead? Judging from the covers list in this forum, they have yet to cover the dead, but it would be pretty sweet to hear a dead cover over the three NYE shows at the fillmore.
Possibly "They Loved Each Other", Jim's voice would go pretty well with that one.
Or...?
That would be fffffffffff-ing AWESOME! I think JJ could do a melt-down version of Birdsong! Whew! Don't even get me thinkin! I'm having trouble enough today! :P :o :P :o :-* :-*
I'll pass and say "HELL NO!"
QuoteI'll pass and say "HELL NO!"
Oh! Poopey-time-station! (Yer no fun!) :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
Why don't ya try some of that free crack...or are we talkin ass-crack?
I'm sure I'm not the only person here that hates the Dead.
yes you are the only one!
but i would like them to play something like "easy wind"
maybe cause i love pigpens voice and bluezzy feel
QuoteI'm sure I'm not the only person here that hates the Dead.
HATE?!?! Corey, I really like you and now I'm worried. I can relate though because I too have anger management issues, or else why would I even respond to this post? I'd just ignore it and let it roll off me, like water on a duck's back, but I always feel bad when people talk negative about the Grateful Dead because I think Jerry was a special human being who worked hard and brought a lot of joy to a lot of people for as many years as he could do it. I haven't heard too many people say negative things about him, but of course, we are all entitled to our opinions....
Peace, bro!
I think it would be cool to see Jim do an acoustic Jim version of Ripple or Scarlet Begonias.
I used to hate the Dead b/c people would equate me to being a Dead head b/c I liked the Dead. It's complicated.... Unbroken Chain and The Wheel are 2 songs I can definently relate on, in a real deep way like.
Also saw Robert Hunter do all his Dead songs on the acoustic about 4 years ago. That helped.
The Dead's history at the fillmore is enough to constitute a cover by the Jacket. Do doubt two of America's many great bands.
If it is okay for them to cover Easy by Lionel Ritchie, it is okay for them to cover the Dead.
OK then. How about:
I really, really, really dislike their music.
I'm not denying the fact that they are/were talented musicians. I just can't stand the music.
[size=10]Although, I enjoy Counting Crows' cover of "Friend of the Devil". Did I just admit that?
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Nice fine print bro.
Don't have to like the dead to appreciate them, iconic American tribe.
Are you going to the Fillmore shows anyway?
I wish. That's on the other side of the country. I don't have the kind of scratch to fly to shows like some people seem to have.
QuoteOK then. How about:
I really, really, really dislike their music.
I'm not denying the fact that they are/were talented musicians. I just can't stand the music.
I don't know Corey, I swear I
don't have a hard time picturing you noodling in a loin cloth to a Grateful Dead cover band's version of Sugar Magnolia in some random field in northern Alabama with 2 or 3 hippy chicks who dropped out of Birmingham-Southern, whacked out on X and driving their daddy's SUV. I can see this pretty clearly...
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QuoteI'm sure I'm not the only person here that hates the Dead.
you are not alone.
QuoteI wish. That's on the other side of the country. I don't have the kind of scratch to fly to shows like some people seem to have.
Priorities man. I am flying from New Zealand for the show. I have only seen them once, this year at Bonnaroo (which I flew from New Zealand to see as well) and I am hooked.
I used to like phish until they got worse than Justin Timberlake
Haha
I was already flying back, just got lucky enough that they were playing
QuoteI was already flying back, just got lucky enough that they were playing
Shouldn't that be in fine print?
;)
I also have priorities. They're called my wife and child and having a roof over our head. :)
Couldn't figure out the fine print, glad to see you have your priorities sorted
I find The Dead done by MMJ an intriguing notion. There's elements of The Dead in MMJ's sound, along with other legendary rootsy rock bands like The Allmans, The Band, Crazy Horse and Skynyrd to name a few.
I understand people not liking good bands. I hate many good bands like The Eagles and old and new Genesis.
Eagles suck.
Gotta love Genesis, if not at least Phil.
If you need any inspiration, just watch American Psycho, he sold me
Just imagine Jim singing "China Doll".......pure bliss. :)
I hate the fucking eagles.
serously, though. I hate the fucking eagles.
Ahmen to that, and I am not even religious
I'm gonna put myself out there in the line of fire & say that I like The Eagles.
Nothing wrong with a little bit of easy-going, country-rock-light from time to time.
Anyone got my back? :-[
Ohh 4000 posts!!! Hooray for me! :)
QuoteI'm gonna put myself out there in the line of fire & say that I like The Eagles.
Nothing wrong with a little bit of easy-going, country-rock-light from time to time.
Anyone got my back? :-[
I like The Eagles. I have no desire to see them live and re-hash the old days, but they have some great songs. Hotel California, The Long Run, great albums.
Phew! Thanks Tracy, that was a tense 8minutes...
Yeah they came to our city a couple of years ago, tickets were ridiculously expensive (even for Japan!)
Couldn't justify feeding their coke habits ;)
Sitting out by the lake, drinking bad beer from an aluminum can, and stairing up at the stars, while wishing it was still 1981 can not be fully appreciated unless the Eagles are playing on the boombox.
I can agree, the eagles are a great band. I'm not in love with them but they have their place and time... time being the most important, haha.
I think a dead cover would be awesome.
and Jellyfish, China Doll would showcase Jims tone superbly!
Hi there, new to the board. I 've been wondering about this topic myself lately. I think that a Dead cover would be absolutely fitting and amazing. However I would lean toward a less spacey jammy tune. China Doll would be supreme but I think a rocker would appropriate. I think a Jacket treatment of Sugar Mags on NYE would blow the roof away and pay homage to Dead NYE's past. I've been imagining Jim's voice singing it and it sounds killer in my head. Of course if this all comes to fruition I'll be jealous as hell cuz I can't make it to SF. I'll be at the Crystal on 1/9 though. On the topic of the Dead and Jacket I recently had an epiphany of sorts as I watched Okonokos. The dead are my favorite of days gone by and the jacket are my favorite newer band. While their music is stylistically different I there seems to be at least a similar pulse in its passion. Jim has always reminded me a bit of Jerry in the looks dept, i.e beard, nose, build. Golden is a song that is very much rooted in country rock which the Dead themselves experimented with in the early 70's. As I watched them perform it on the Okonokos DVD it almost gave me goose bumps as I watched Carl play the pedal steel on the very stage that Jerry had played it with the New Riders of the Purple Sage. It just felt like something had come full circle for me. Sorry for rambling, just need to share. As for the Eagles, there a somewhat cheesy band but there songwriting was great IMHO. My favorite song is On the Border-just listen to the bass and guitar interplay. I also love the Warren Haynes version of Wasted Time.
I'd like to hear Wharf Rat or Scarlet Begonias. I wouldn't mind the Jacket taking a shot at some of the trippier Dead tunes. It's not their style hence it would make it a fascinating challenge.
I always thought Dancefloors could be a Dead song.
QuoteI always thought Dancefloors could be a Dead song.
I agree. Same with Master Plan.
I'd love to hear them have a go at 'Friend of the Devil'.
How can anyone hate the dead? Corey?!
QuoteI'd like to hear Wharf Rat or Scarlet Begonias. I wouldn't mind the Jacket taking a shot at some of the trippier Dead tunes. It's not their style hence it would make it a fascinating challenge.
Scarlet Begonias would be great.
China doll would suit very well I agree. I am in on the Scarlet rocked out, just started hearing it in my head and it is sounding great.
I gues the eagles aren't that bad, but it never does a band good when their hit song is covered by the gypsy kings and sounds ten times better in spanish...
Any other dead cover suggestions? trying to think of more that would be good, but am at a loss on what would really suit the jacket's style
Stella Blue
Wharf Rat
Morning Dew
To Lay Me Down
Black Peter
Row Jimmy
Brokedown Palace
Candyman
Jack Straw would be awesome.
Hear me out. I'd kill to hear them do Dark Star, but in a Dondante kind of swelling distorted freak-out kind of way.
Long time Dead fan - Top 5 Wish list Covers are;
1 JAck Straw
2 Stella blue
3 Moring Dew (I think this would fit with there Strangulation style nicely)
4 Bird song- with intense outro jam
5 Scarlett Begonias
If you have ever been to the fillmore you know that they have a almost lifesize portrait of Jerry hanging in the stairwell. It's by far the largest picture there of any artist. They have a fine collection.
CAn't tink of a better place to do their first Dead cover.
I will be there hoping it happens!!
Jack Straw is a great call, they would rock that out. In a similar vein, Mississippi Half-Step would be great. If you're going acoustic, it's gotta be Brokedown Palace.
Row Jimmy would be alllll good, no doubt.
Same with Jack straw. I am not too sure about the funkier side of the dead with the jacket, don't think it would suit their style
Peggy-O would be nice......
I could see Dire Wolf
They know fillmore's history I would not be surprised to see a dead cover.
And yes The Eagles are shit
I don't know about the likelihood of this happening. I've heard no one in the band is really a fan. The band might appreciate the Fillmore's history and respect the dead as muscians, but bands usually cover songs of bands they like. Where's the fun in covering a song you don't like?
high time + jim solo = beauty
These bands are very different, but I love them both. I have thought about the similariies between jim and jerry. There is a bit of physical resemblance (beard, etc.), but I think it's more in the charisma and personality. They seem like the type that everyone loves having around and give really good bear hugs. The fillmore shows are going to be amazing dead cover or not. Wish I could go.
capt goodies, capt tripps????? i'm a fan of both, i've always thought the jacket could do some excellent dead covers, i've thought that with carl playing peddle steel some workingmans dead or american beauty songs would be most righteous
top 5 in no order: Easy Wind
Loser
Candyman
Morning Dew
Wharf Rat
QuoteI don't know about the likelihood of this happening. I've heard no one in the band is really a fan. The band might appreciate the Fillmore's history and respect the dead as muscians, but bands usually cover songs of bands they like. Where's the fun in covering a song you don't like?
The Dead Have a huge catalogue of material and I'm sure with the similarities like instrumentation, vocals, and country, rock and blues influences between the two bands MMJ could find a song or two they do like and cover it better than most any band out there. I think there is a matter of respect in covering a song besides just liking it or not.
Anybody has to have some respect for what the Dead have accomplished. Wether you like their music and fans or not.
So what is MMJ's stance on The Dead? Any interviews out there mentioning them?
I love the Dead. I've been listening to them my whole life, my parents were hippies. I would never expect MMJ to cover a Dead song however, if they did, here's what I'd want to hear in this order:
1) One More Saturday Night
2) Lost Sailor -> Saint of Circumstance
3) Deal
4) High Time
5) Ship of Fools
If MMJ played just one Dead song, ANY Dead song, I'd be so excited my head would probably explode.
QuoteSo what is MMJ's stance on The Dead? Any interviews out there mentioning them?
Here's an article from another forum on this board where Jim briefly mentions the Dead.
http://www.mymorningjacket.com/cgi-local/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=news;action=display;num=1146786895
I'm going to predict that there will be a Dead cover played. I feel it.
Not sure if posted, but from Jambase.
Jim James:THOUGHTS ON GARCIA
1. How would you say the music of Jerry Garcia and/or the man himself has influenced your music, your craft, and/or your life path?
There are certain songs of his that take me to this place... and it is a place to which only his music, his voice, can take me. There is this realm he knew that I think no one else has really quite mastered. It is a place that is not sad, not happy, not fast or slow, but all these things at once. And when I'm feeling tired and beat down, or discouraged about life, it is a place I like to go to hear the simple, sweet, sound of his voice, and I always end up feeling better when I come back. I try to remember that, to just be simple and sweet sometimes, especially when I am feeling like being an asshole.
2. What is your fondest memory of Jerry Garcia?
Oddly enough, my fondest memories of Jerry really don't have much to do with the Dead or his music per se, as I did not really discover that music till much later in life. The first time I recall hearing him was his amazing steel part on Teach Your Children by CSNY. I think that guitar part is one of the sweetest sounds ever made; it makes me want to cry and have kids every time I hear it. I feel like all mysteries of life could be revealed if that guitar part was isolated and analyzed in a lab. We would know then what we've been trying to figure out for so long. It's not even what he is playing, but the way he played it. It's cool how all those guys worked together too, 'cuz another fave of mine is his steel part from Laughing off Crosby's first solo record If I Could Only Remember My Name. I like how he just pops up when you least expect it. Pure genius.
3. What would you say is the most significant thing Jerry has given the world?
There is a certain sweetness to everything he touched and sang and played on. Something so human, yet so divine it is hard to describe. We know he came from another place, but he had such a great way of getting us humans to try and love life and to see all the beauty and possibility that exists in music
From Jambands.com.
So Many Roads: Guitarists' Dead Picks
Mike Greenhaus and Benjy Eisen
2005-08-09
One possible alternative future of the Grateful Dead following the passing of Jerry Garcia, saw the group taking it on the road and possibly even to the studio with a revolving chair of guitarists. As a tribute to Garcia's lasting legacy, we asked a cross-section of our favorite musicians to choose which song they'd perform if they were granted such an opportunity. In general, we tried to pick axe-men not usually associated with the Dead, though we couldn't help but throw in some of Garcia's biggest admirers.
Jim James (My Morning Jacket):
I'd do "Candyman," there's something about that song that's so awesome. I'm more a fan of the real structured Grateful Dead songs, the acoustic Grateful Dead songs. On "Candyman," it's just like all the harmonies and all the amazing guitar parts and the lyrics...the whole thing. I'd do that or "'Brown Eyed Women." I'm not even that huge of a Dead fan, but there's just something about Garcia that was so sweet and so awesome. The first time I ever heard him was on pedal steel on 'Teach Your Children" — pedal steel, I think, is one of God's gifts to people. I can sit there and listen to that song over and over and over and it makes me want to have kids and get married and cry. Just the way he emoted was to me more important than any song that he wrote or anything in particular. It was just his force and I think that's why people loved him so much. There was just something about him that was insanely magical.
I somehow knew Jim was a Jerry fan. I love them both more than any other singer/songwriters out there.
Brown eyed women covered would make me cry!!
Jim could reincarnate Jerry right on stage at the fillmore and we would all dance.
Nice, good work on getting those interviews, could be the time come the end of dec....
DARK STAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:D :o :) 8)
.... and yes.... i agree....
jim james and jerry garcia do have very similar, incredibly beautiful souls...
i just hope jim doesn't take the "smack train" like jerry did....
(not that i'm wanting to start a "bands on drugs" convo here, i just love em both!!)
QuoteNot sure if posted, but from Jambase.
Jim James:THOUGHTS ON GARCIA
1. How would you say the music of Jerry Garcia and/or the man himself has influenced your music, your craft, and/or your life path?
There are certain songs of his that take me to this place... and it is a place to which only his music, his voice, can take me. There is this realm he knew that I think no one else has really quite mastered. It is a place that is not sad, not happy, not fast or slow, but all these things at once. And when I'm feeling tired and beat down, or discouraged about life, it is a place I like to go to hear the simple, sweet, sound of his voice, and I always end up feeling better when I come back. I try to remember that, to just be simple and sweet sometimes, especially when I am feeling like being an asshole.
2. What is your fondest memory of Jerry Garcia?
Oddly enough, my fondest memories of Jerry really don't have much to do with the Dead or his music per se, as I did not really discover that music till much later in life. The first time I recall hearing him was his amazing steel part on Teach Your Children by CSNY. I think that guitar part is one of the sweetest sounds ever made; it makes me want to cry and have kids every time I hear it. I feel like all mysteries of life could be revealed if that guitar part was isolated and analyzed in a lab. We would know then what we've been trying to figure out for so long. It's not even what he is playing, but the way he played it. It's cool how all those guys worked together too, 'cuz another fave of mine is his steel part from Laughing off Crosby's first solo record If I Could Only Remember My Name. I like how he just pops up when you least expect it. Pure genius.
3. What would you say is the most significant thing Jerry has given the world?
There is a certain sweetness to everything he touched and sang and played on. Something so human, yet so divine it is hard to describe. We know he came from another place, but he had such a great way of getting us humans to try and love life and to see all the beauty and possibility that exists in music
That's great, exactly what i wanted to hear.
Yeah, there's always a dead song to like. They're music crossed many generations and genres. I'd imagine that Jim doesn't dig the noodling sound of the Dead, but when the dead does country folk, it sounds beautiful...Man could you imagine Jim James belting out Attics of My Life or High Time!!!!
On a side note: I saw a quote from Dylan in Rolling Stone that claimed that even Dylan claimed that Jerry found the 'song buried' in Dylan's songs and Dylan would actually listen to a Jerry version of a Dylan song to get ideas of new ways to play it. Crazy but he said it.....
What a treat it would be to hear a Dead tune from MMJ! Some of these are truly reaching, but here goes:
I Know You Rider
Franklin's Tower
Tennessee Jed
Sugaree
Terrapin Station
guess they'd need a Donna Godcheaux stand-in for that last one...
I bet if Jerry were still alive, He'd be a huge Jacket fan.
On a side note: I saw a quote from Dylan in Rolling Stone that claimed that even Dylan claimed that Jerry found the 'song buried' in Dylan's songs and Dylan would actually listen to a Jerry version of a Dylan song to get ideas of new ways to play it. Crazy but he said it.....[/quote]
I think the reinvention process of a Dead song by the Jacket is what would make it extra special. If you think about the covers the they have done already, (Prince, Dylan, the Band, etc.) they reinvent the song in their own style without detracting from the original. The same way in my opinion that the Dead did with Dylan and many others. Someone covering a song and sounding exactly like the original is not only pointless but it lacks any sense of integrity. MMJ exudes musical truth for lack of a better phrase even in their covers. They lack any sort of pretension in what they play. I think they just want to make and play good music which they appreciate and their fans appreciate. The same way the Dead and Dylan did. Sorry for the drunken rambling and/or preachiness. But as a longtine Dead and Dylan fan I am always amazed at the way true music can influence other great musicians. It is a testament to the folk cycle.
I only discovered MMJ last Spring, mostly through the Elizabethtown soundtrack. I bought it for the Tom Petty track and heard Where to Begin. I liked it and managed to catch them opening for PJ. I was blown away by their set. Since then I have gotten every lick of MMJ I can manage to find or download. The Archive is a godsend.
That being said, I think its important to point out the not so obvious...it all goes back to the Grateful Dead. The whole concert industry business model is in large part patterned after theirs. Taping, trading, ticket sales via the band its all evolved from the Dead. There was none of that before them. Playing different set lists each night. Fans migrating to multiple shows...all that stuff...its all from the Dead. Its embedded in the culture of concerts today.
I am myself perhaps a little older than many MMJ fans, based on my not so scientific observation at the Avalon last week. Im almost 40 and have had the chance to see the Dead nearly 4 dozen times over the years. I haven't had a charge from live music like the one I got from MMJ last week since long before Jerry died. If you never saw the Dead, I can understand not liking them. Had I not seen MMJ live, I'd never have "gotten" them. I will be seeing them as often as possible in the future. Some bands have to be experienced live and I think this is true of MMJ and the Dead.
I think Ship of Fools would be great cover material. Or perhaps Sugaree...that would be great!
I would love them to cover a Dead tune.. Wharf Rat comes to mind as one that could be incredible
I'd imagine they'd limit a cover tune to 4-5 minutes...Although I'd love to hear Jim belt out "I'll get up and fly away.....", it's just too long of a song.
I'm still in favor of High Time or Candyman.... or any Dead tune with pedal steel...
id be surprised if they did a dead cover.....but thats just me and if they do...brown eyed women...oww
QuoteI'd imagine they'd limit a cover tune to 4-5 minutes...Although I'd love to hear Jim belt out "I'll get up and fly away.....", it's just too long of a song.
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Whats the hurry.
We got all night. :) :) :)
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Whats the hurry.
We got all night. :) :) :)
Oh yeah, ALLL night, so soon as well, can't wait, I am seriously losing it.
I LOVE this band.
One of my good friends went and saw the Roseland show in NYC having never heard any of them before, i made him go even though i wasn't there. In high school he had a ton of Dead tapes, ah the time of the tape...
Anyways, he told me that the Roseland show made him want to go out and start seeing more shows now that he knows that there are bands like MMJ out there.
During the show he turned to the guy next to him in awe of the power of the jacket and exclaimed "DUDE these guys are ROCKING!"
That they do, and will continue to do for a long time yet.
See you all at the fillmore on the 30th, and the crystal not too long after.
QuoteI only discovered MMJ last Spring, mostly through the Elizabethtown soundtrack. I bought it for the Tom Petty track and heard Where to Begin. I liked it and managed to catch them opening for PJ. I was blown away by their set. Since then I have gotten every lick of MMJ I can manage to find or download. The Archive is a godsend.
That being said, I think its important to point out the not so obvious...it all goes back to the Grateful Dead. The whole concert industry business model is in large part patterned after theirs. Taping, trading, ticket sales via the band its all evolved from the Dead. There was none of that before them. Playing different set lists each night. Fans migrating to multiple shows...all that stuff...its all from the Dead. Its embedded in the culture of concerts today.
I am myself perhaps a little older than many MMJ fans, based on my not so scientific observation at the Avalon last week. Im almost 40 and have had the chance to see the Dead nearly 4 dozen times over the years. I haven't had a charge from live music like the one I got from MMJ last week since long before Jerry died. If you never saw the Dead, I can understand not liking them. Had I not seen MMJ live, I'd never have "gotten" them. I will be seeing them as often as possible in the future. Some bands have to be experienced live and I think this is true of MMJ and the Dead.
I think Ship of Fools would be great cover material. Or perhaps Sugaree...that would be great!
You are totally right, I never really thought of it that way, but I guess I always knew that the Dead were the forefathers of the whole live music family if you will. Being a New Englander, I followed Phish for a while and enjoyed the late 90's following until it became too huge and drugged out with a gradual decline in music quality.
I couldn't believe how strong of a following MMJ had when i first discovered them. They are by far my favorite band: diverse, talented, kick ass and beautiful. I can see myself travelling far to witness their greatness live. Judging by the setlists, they do still play a lot of the same songs each night, which i definately do not mind. I am curious to see their evolution as they gain popularity exponentially and continue to write more music.
I think with the arrival of their next album (2007?) we will start to see a lot more variation in their setlists from show to show. Especially in multi-night runs in the same town. Can't wait.
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I don't know Corey, I swear I don't have a hard time picturing you noodling in a loin cloth to a Grateful Dead cover band's version of Sugar Magnolia in some random field in northern Alabama with 2 or 3 hippy chicks who dropped out of Birmingham-Southern, whacked out on X and driving their daddy's SUV. I can see this pretty clearly...
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this post is reason #46 that I think Tracy is awesome.
Can you smell the patchouli oil???
I think that some of the more straight forward, "rocking" Dead songs would be great with the MMJ treatment, something like 'Bertha' or 'Big River'. But, another great song for the New Years run, paying tribute to another historical Fillmore band, would be Jefferson Airplane's 'Volunteers'. My Morning Jacket would absolutely RIP that song up!
I CAN NOT WAIT FOR THESE SHOWS!!!
Morning Dew
Tenesee Jed
Ship of Fools
Althea
Deal
US Blues
Trucking
Watkins Glen Jam!
Scarlet Begonias
He's Gone
China Cat Sunflower
anything.............
deadawg
The thought of that makes me want to skip the concert completely. >:(
QuoteThe thought of that makes me want to skip the concert completely. >:(
you're loss
QuoteOK then. How about:
I really, really, really dislike their music.
I'm not denying the fact that they are/were talented musicians. I just can't stand the music.
[size=10]Although, I enjoy Counting Crows' cover of "Friend of the Devil". Did I just admit that?
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I wouldn't admit that you prefer Countin Crows covering a dead song to the original...
yikes...
Any chance MMJ will try out covers from another legendary Fillmore band: The Allman Brothers?
QuoteAny chance MMJ will try out covers from another legendary Fillmore band: The Allman Brothers?
That would indeed be cool. In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed?
Although, to end all discussions, they should just open with Jailbreak by Thin Lizzy and close with Breaking The Law by Judas Priest. [smiley=evil.gif]
JJ on JG: "There was just something about him that was insanely magical."
I'm sure that some of us would say the same about the Jacket, and it's in our devotion that the similarity continues.
However, I felt the kinship the first few times I listened to Z, and now having seen the band, I sense it even stronger than before.
If they were going to do a dead cover, New Year's Eve would be a time to try it, no?