[size=24]Shut the fuck up or I swear to God the real fans who are there for the music are going to drag your drunk mongoloid asses out into the alley and twist you into a balloon animal.
Capisce'?
Thank you.
Sincerely yours -
Reals Fans Who Go To Concerts To Hear Music[/size]
Ive been lucky, Ive only ever had seats near people who were talking throughout a show one time, at a Death Cab show awhile back. Im not even sure they knew what was going on. They were too busy taking pictures of each other to even notice the band. I have no problem with taking pictures, I took a couple myself on Friday (only managed 3 during the show, was having too good a time to worry about messing with a camera lol), but why go to a concert to take pictures of yourself?
No need to get bent out of shape.
With MMJ's added exposure, this is an almost unavoidable byproduct.
Just block it out.
Get into it , man.
Trance-style.
I've been lurking here for a bit and finally broke down and registered recently after needing another outlet to cope with aftermath of the Bonnaroo show. I felt the need to hop in on this thread because this issue has been driving me *nuts*. Usually I can just tune yappers out at shows, but it's so, so difficult to do during songs like "Golden" and "Bermuda" (I have a hard time breathing during these songs, let alone talking!).
I day-dreamed about creating a STFU mafia. Not entirely sure how it would play out, but I was thinking either signs or roofies. . . or maybe both. . .
QuoteI've been lurking here for a bit and finally broke down and registered recently after needing another outlet to cope with aftermath of the Bonnaroo show. I felt the need to hop in on this thread because this issue has been driving me *nuts*. Usually I can just tune yappers out at shows, but it's so, so difficult to do during songs like "Golden" and "Bermuda" (I have a hard time breathing during these songs, let alone talking!).
I day-dreamed about creating a STFU mafia. Not entirely sure how it would play out, but I was thinking either signs or roofies. . . or maybe both. . .
I think you're on to something, if we just plan to spread out a little and then whenever people start talking we all simulatenously
whisper "shut the fuck up" it might be sweet or the band might stop playing and look at the audience all confused haha
....it sucks when people talk, and it drives me fucking crazy...but if it is happening near you and you just turn around and ask nicely for them to stop talking, it generally works.....those people might think your an asshole and uptight but you will enjoy the show without having to hear what happened to Mandy at mall three days ago during your favorite song....just remember to be friendly about it.....
....it always boggles my mind how people go to shows (after paying money to get there and for the ticket) and simply don't pay attention to any of it....why waste your time or money???.....
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....it always boggles my mind how people go to shows (after paying money to get there and for the ticket) and simply don't pay attention to any of it....why waste your time or money???.....
Some people only go so they can say they were there. To be honest I dont even know if anyone was talking in my section, I was too damn tuned in to notice.
Quotepeople might think your an asshole and uptight but you will enjoy the show without having to hear what happened to Mandy at mall three days ago during your favorite song....just remember to be friendly about it.....
;D that's hilarious, fuck mandy
I guess this fits here; Jeff Tweedy addresses talkers at a show.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew3AOlbJXos&feature=related[/media]
How about we just print out a bunch of stickers and pass them out to the yappers?
(http://www.t-shirthumor.com/Merchant2/graphics/fullsize/stfu_lg.gif)
QuoteHow about we just print out a bunch of stickers and pass them out to the yappers?
(http://www.t-shirthumor.com/Merchant2/graphics/fullsize/stfu_lg.gif)
Between the post above and the STFU MAFIA idea, I feel absolutely emotionally moved ... Like I ate a huge bowl of spiritual prunes .....
First time poster long time lurker here.
I just wanted to say thank you EgoTesticle for starting this thread!
During RCMH, I didn't understand how anyone could talk when their faces were melting off.
I dont understand why everyone is getting their panties bunched up over talkers at a show. It's a friggen rock n roll show for crissakes. people go to have fun and listen to an amazing band. You guys are scaring the crap out of me, because I saw on more than one occasion the "stfu mafia" appear at RCMH. Granted maybe some folks should pipe down and respect their neighbors. But after a while you'll end up looking like the no fun police.
You know the person at work who reply's to all in an email, and then 15-20 other people reply to all to say dont reply to all? those 15-20 meant well, but then they were just as annoying to everyone as well instead of it just being that original person who replied to all.
when you tell people to stop talking at a show, chances are they are drunk, so they'll get even more obnoxious and you both will be yelling at each other to STFU. so best to not even start the whole mess. just do your best to tune them out not get worked up over something so silly and have fun.
I thought I was unfortunate in getting stuck next to a dude that was writing emails on his iPhone or facing the wrong way for half the show, but at least he was courteous enough to keep his yapper shut. I was absolutely losing my shit during some songs ... arms flailing, hammering chords on the air guitar, occasionally probably looking like I was approaching status epilepticus. I was drenched in sweat by the end of the show.
Success! ;)
During the last song I simply lost control, my legs carried me up toward the stage of their own volition. After showing my ticket at the front, and getting a confused look from the guard, I just started rocking out hard in the aisle. One Big Holiday was reaching a crescendo as a blur of light and sound. Another 3 approached me pretty quickly, and I got a firm tap on the shoulder from behind. I turned around and surprised the the guy with a big ass hug, and a sincerely shouted "I love you man!" and rocked my ass back to row XX. I definitely caught the older security guy off guard ... he just froze and I think I caught a little smirk at the ridiculousness of the situation.
From what I saw, I thought RCMH staff did a pretty good job of keeping things orderly, but not imposing on fans unnecessarily. Other shows in similar venues have led to some tense situations due to overzealous security and frustrated crowds. I was really worried about that, but it turned out to be a nonissue.
Overall, the show was incredible as expected. To be honest though, I had some doubts creeping in during the first half of the show, that I'd made the right decision to fly all the way up from NC just to see them. BUT before they'd finished Phone Went West my mind was officially blown, any doubts had vanished.
The energy came in waves through the first half. It was easy to tell that the crowd was not totally into a few of the newer songs. Aluminum Park was better than I expected, Librarian was slightly disappointing without strings, but Thank You Too, I'm Amazed, and Touch Me Part 2 were out of this world amazing. The "encore" (basically a second set) was absolutely brilliant start to finish.
I kinda lost track of the topic there ... anyway, it sucks to have people around you talking but that's inevitable at a seated show. There's not much that can be done about it and fighting back isn't going to accomplish anything. Fortunately, at most shows the people who came to socialize tend relocate toward the back so the people really into the show can squeeze up front. It usually works itself out.
QuoteI dont understand why everyone is getting their panties bunched up over talkers at a show. It's a friggen rock n roll show for crissakes. people go to have fun and listen to an amazing band. You guys are scaring the crap out of me, because I saw on more than one occasion the "stfu mafia" appear at RCMH. Granted maybe some folks should pipe down and respect their neighbors. But after a while you'll end up looking like the no fun police.
when you tell people to stop talking at a show, chances are they are drunk, so they'll get even more obnoxious and you both will be yelling at each other to STFU. so best to not even start the whole mess. just do your best to tune them out not get worked up over something so silly and have fun.
I think it's been said previously in the thread, but I'll reiterate:
It's not about people not having a good time--freaking shout, holler, get down, woot!, hug your neighbor, tell Jim and Co. you think they're gods. That's not the problem. The problem is Yappasaurus-Rexs like Bubba and Lyle talking about the massive fish they caught last weekend or how Suzie cheerleader is giving them the run-around while we're trying to hear the finer notes of a softer song.
So yes, ideally we would just all ignore the chatter and miraculously our ears would tune themselves only to the sweet sounds the boys are creating on stage, but, much like most ideal situations, it doesn't work that way. So instead, how do we do those yapping audience members the favor of tuning them back into the set and, as a result, better enjoying the show ourselves? :)
I had some idiot singing every lyric to every song and talking in between all during Mark Kozelek last night... I almost fucking slapped him.
.... And for the record?
.... I don't wear panties
then I guess you will look really cool then by passing out STFU stickers, or shouting STFU in unison. cause that totally means everyone will not notice at all and things will instantly get quiet around you.
I had a bunch of talkers around me. It's going to happen at all shows and especially during the slower numbers. deal with it. block them out, dont let them ruin your fun.
instead maybe we should be blaming MMJ for playing that huge block of slow/new songs in the middle and letting the crowd get away from them? I'll be honest, I thought they came out strong and had the crowd by their "nuts", but there were too many slower numbers or newer songs between What a Wonderful Man and Steam Engine and they lost a bit of the crowd (not you or me, but the new found casual fans that filled the rest of RCMH).
Quotethen I guess you will look really cool then by passing out STFU stickers, or shouting STFU in unison. cause that totally means everyone will not notice at all and things will instantly get quiet around you.
I had a bunch of talkers around me. It's going to happen at all shows and especially during the slower numbers. deal with it. block them out, dont let them ruin your fun.
you have to admit though if there were a bunch of whispering "shut the fuck ups" coming from all over the venue. kind of like in lost when the whispers come. I bet it would freak some talkers out.
Quotethen I guess you will look really cool then by passing out STFU stickers, or shouting STFU in unison. cause that totally means everyone will not notice at all and things will instantly get quiet around you.
I had a bunch of talkers around me. It's going to happen at all shows and especially during the slower numbers. deal with it. block them out, dont let them ruin your fun.
instead maybe we should be blaming MMJ for playing that huge block of slow/new songs in the middle and letting the crowd get away from them? I'll be honest, I thought they came out strong and had the crowd by their "nuts", but there were too many slower numbers or newer songs between What a Wonderful Man and Steam Engine and they lost a bit of the crowd (not you or me, but the new found casual fans that filled the rest of RCMH).
stuey?
Save your breath.
You will need it later to inflate your date.
"Maybe we should blame MMJ for playing a block of slow songs and new songs" ....
stuey .... Your mom and dad .... Siblings? [smiley=shocked.gif]
Sorry, but what part of inconsiderate assholes who hold conversations over the music like it is some local bar band playing at the local Holiday Inn to the point where people who paid lots of money and travelled very far to a show cannot hear a goddamned thing are ruining concerts fails to escape you, Zippy?
Oh wait .....
.... stuey?
.... Did someone tell YOU to STFU during the concert?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
I swear to god this works:
Expecially if you are dealing with drunks.
It only takes a couple of puffs of the good kine. Puts em' right on their ass in their seat. You can really thin out the herd if you're feeling generous.
I'm a mouth-runner, though, so i empathize with the talkers...
Sorry in advance.
Don't get too worked up, guys. If your biggest concern is loud yapping crowds, you're still in a good place. Just wait till the band begins to decline. that's a real problem.
It's like your best girl giving you shit about something they inferred from what you said but didn't mean. If that's all she's bitching about, everything is still cool.
QuoteI swear to god this works:
Expecially if you are dealing with drunks.
It only takes a couple of puffs of the good kine. Puts em' right on their ass in their seat. You can really thin out the herd if you're feeling generous.
I'm a mouth-runner, though, so i empathize with the talkers...
Sorry in advance.
Don't get too worked up, guys. If your biggest concern is loud yapping crowds, you're still in a good place. Just wait till the band begins to decline. that's a real problem.
It's like your best girl giving you shit about something they inferred from what you said but didn't mean. If that's all she's bitching about, everything is still cool.
NOTE TO SELF: Next show sit by Shockadow and talk loudly so he will smoke the kine with me.
.... He he he ;)
You don't need to yap it up.
I enjoy burnin' down with masses. Makes friends and put everyone around you on the same wavelength.
Front Balcony, row B, Fox Theater.
See ya!!
QuoteI've been lurking here for a bit and finally broke down and registered recently after needing another outlet to cope with aftermath of the Bonnaroo show. I felt the need to hop in on this thread because this issue has been driving me *nuts*. Usually I can just tune yappers out at shows, but it's so, so difficult to do during songs like "Golden" and "Bermuda" (I have a hard time breathing during these songs, let alone talking!).
I day-dreamed about creating a STFU mafia. Not entirely sure how it would play out, but I was thinking either signs or roofies. . . or maybe both. . .
maybe a swift kick in the rear!
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Some people only go so they can say they were there.
So true. For some folks, it's all about the scene. I used to frequent shows at Higher Ground in Burlington, Vt, and there was a strong contingent of people who would shoot pool the entire show. And I never understood that. It was almost as if they were making a statement that they were too cool to pay attention to the show -- that not caring is way cooler than caring. You definitely get your garden variety drunks who just lose their attention, and care more about getting beer than the show in front of them, but I think overall show talkers are a mix of the former and of the latter.
Phish shows were always chock full of haters.
Steve Kimock plays better shows for quiet audiences. He told one crowd in Colorado a few years back to STFU. There was a "Shut up and Dance" campaign that some of his fans started a few years back.
As everyone else has said, you just have to get into your own zone. Find a place that is loud, where even the most belligerent person won't interrupt your experience. These people will never go away and, as one person mentioned, as a band gets bigger you'll get more and more people who are there just to say they were. It's a shitty reality for people who care so much and feel like they have the right to an uninterrupted experience, but I guess it's ultimately a pitfall of popularity.
I actually did ask the fella's behind me whether they could continue their loud, in depth conversation at a later time. I don't usually do stuff like that but I didn't fly 3,000 miles to hear random dude's yammering on about Radiohead or whatev. (I mean seriously, if you're in the first 10 rows or so, it seems to me you should be focusing on the band!). I dont remember which song was going on when I finally said something, but I felt like if what they were talking about for the previous 2 songs was that important then maybe they should go to the bar for some privacy. At first they were kinda pissed at me, but then I think we all got on the same page. I told them I wasn't trying to be a bitch about it but tried to explain that they were being really loud and really off topic. Funnily, when BH came up quickly to tell me something in my ear they asked whether WE could have our conversation at a later time. ;D Ultimately we became freinds and we all rocked out together...not necessarily quietly, but on topic!! WOOOOOOOT! 8-)
Well said.
You guys go ahead and do what you want, I'm just trying to save yourself from looking like a raging dork with your STFU stickers and STFU whisper mafia campaign.
Recently during The Librarian in Toronto it was stone silent. Applause to all. :)
But at the Berkeley Church concert I really want to throttle the Dondante singer who was over my shoulder. Face it there is but one Jim. ;)
wow. I am so glad to see this post. I posted something similar once and everyone told me I was an asshole. definitely starting to realize that it is me that is unpopular and not my opinions.
WHAT A RELIEF!
The guy next to me was up and down all night. He kept asking me a variety of questions. "what did they open with?" "did they sing wordless chorus yet?" The list goes on.
I eventually told him to leave me alone.
When you have 4th row seats you ass should be there enjoying every minute. I don't get it.
QuoteThe guy next to me was up and down all night. He kept asking me a variety of questions. "what did they open with?" "did they sing wordless chorus yet?" The list goes on.
I eventually told him to leave me alone.
When you have 4th row seats you ass should be there enjoying every minute. I don't get it.
i would have gladly traded him! then you and I could just be dancin! no jibba jabba needed when your watching pure rock n roll!
... STFUeym ;D
I think it's time to bring this thread back.
Hearing a lot about people yapping during shows again. And while I know most of the people who post here most likely aren't the type to be doing anything but starring intently at the stage, hopefully someone will read this thread and think twice before they start blabbing during another amazing Dondante.
Ugh, the yappers are everywhere. I've been smiling and putting my fingers to my lips, which seems to work. I also put my hands on someone's shoulder at Red Rocks and and gave him a gentle "shhhh..." Seems to be working.
Forget the fact that you're infringing on my good time -- YOU ARE BEING DISRESPECTFUL TO THE BAND.
... no one talked at the radiohead show i was at....
"I'll tell ya' fuckers something, alright? Now listen. Just fucking listen and shut up. Alright?
Either sit down or stand up or lay down or do something but SHUT UP! Alright?
This is a fucking rock and roll concert, not a fucking tea party! Alright?"
Pete Townshend, Long Beach Arena, December 10th, 1971.
Alright, Pete!
im a little torn on this.
like, if i had lawn seats at the local amphitheater - i really can't complain too much. i just move. those are the cheap seats for people who want to get fucked up.
when you start moving in closer to the stage, or have seats - yeah, i have to say it's really rude. but im guilty of it - im guessing we all are at some point if you go to enough shows.
last night the people in front of me were wasting their time taking pictures with flash on, of each other, chatting, constantly leaving to get beers, etc etc. but im not there to watch other people or really get too into what other people are doing. they could have had a freakin orgy in front of me :o
so, i guess what im saying is: yeah, people talk. unless you want to be the concert police, there is little you can do. i would agree with others - and take the presidents advice. smoke em out. 8-)
The only thing I hate more than talkers at a show are the talkers on tape. I can tune just about anything out at a show. The volume of the music, the lights, the energy swirling around the audience and back to the band--all of this keeps my face melting and my attention focused. However, when I am driving to work in the morning, listening to a little Bermuda Hwy or Sooner, I can not tune out Mandy and her fucking "Oh..Mah..Gad..Did you see blah blah blah blah blah" bullshit. I think that this is just another reason for the band to oficially embrace taping and have a designated taper's section at the shows so THOSE folks can tell anyone yapping to shut their fucking holes. (BTW, on the record, I am simply grateful that they allow taping at all.)
And don't listen to Shockadow claiming he is a yapper. Yapping is NOT rocking out and exclaiming how fucking awesome the band is...between puffs.
Front Balcony, Row A, Fox Theatre...smokedowntown!!!
man philly had some awful talkers, I was trying so hard to tune them out, I really was trying but they were so obnoxious, i mean they were introducing people to other people, and they were right up front, backs to the stage just carrying on conversations the entire night. I didn't say anything, I wish I had, i'll try the polite routine next time around. But honestly, its cool you want to go see a show with your friends, its even cooler that you want to be right up front... it is NOT cool to talk the entire time you are up there, if you want to talk- make you're way to the back, you can hear each other better and you can still hear the music perfectly, but you aren't ruining the experience for everyone around you. and that gives the people behind you and your huge group of gabbing friends a chance to get a better, quieter view.
Please.
Uggghhh. I don't know who else has listened to the Nashville show intently, but there are people constantly talking through IWSYS and Librarian.
Oh, but geez, what always gets me is after Wordless Chorus, a note is struck that signals Highly Suspicious is about to kick off; and, this girl yells(who is obviously feet away from the mic) "fucking highly suspicious, highly su-mother fuckin'-spicious.. Yes, she inserted the mother fuckin' in between supspicious. I laugh ever time, but it's soooo annoying.
Btw, I sincerely apologize if that is a member of this forum who reads this. Sorry.
chlororform? ;D
Quotechlororform? ;D
Before or after the roofie colada??
I suppose that's up to Mr. Quagmire...he's the expert.
QuoteI suppose that's up to Mr. Quagmire...he's the expert.
giggity, giggity, giggity
(http://forums.battle-forum.com/hosted/mcclaud/quagmire-3865.jpg)
I think everyone should go to shows alone. It's okay to know other people there, but you shouldn't be near them. This helps with two things...1)No talking conversation during shows. 2) If no one you know is around, then you can interpret the song and the sonic vibrations as you would if you were in your home or car alone. You can "feel" the music and dance or sway as you may.
I doubt the folks that talk at shows read this board.
QuoteI doubt the folks that talk at shows read this board.
I doubt the folks that talk at shows read :)
i'm listening to the philly show right now- I cannot believe how many people are talking during Dondante! >:( looks like its clobbering time- time to rev up the DeLorean!
Fuckin A! I was sayin the same shit all night long at Radio City. Rude.
QuoteFuckin A! I was sayin the same shit all night long at Radio City. Rude.
Yea man- I didn't have any near me but my friends had some by them- and you could hear them all on the recording... sickening >:(
It's not just at MMJ shows
It is pretty rampant at all concerts nowadays
People spend close to a hundred dollars a ticket and carry on conversations the whole show like they are in their corner bar with a cover band playing in the background
And if you say something they get all righteous and say "Dude, it's a concert, man!"
I love Jeff Tweedy's take on talkers
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew3AOlbJXos[/media]
QuoteI love Jeff Tweedy's take on talkers
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew3AOlbJXos[/media]
If only I could get that magical lego box to talk. . .
QuoteQuoteI love Jeff Tweedy's take on talkers
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew3AOlbJXos[/media]
If only I could get that magical lego box to talk. . .
it seems we have the same problem- allow me to help you, and others...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew3AOlbJXos
The talkers ARE bad enough, but lets give a mention for the poor departed souls(or they should be!) who, after paying thier money, walk around all fuckin night, and you have to let them past all the god damn time, i swear i will Tazer one of them bastards and then whistle, look around as he lays on the floor (not moving NOW, i might add) and just say "what??".
QuoteThe talkers ARE bad enough, but lets give a mention for the poor departed souls(or they should be!) who, after paying thier money, walk around all fuckin night, and you have to let them past all the god damn time, i swear i will Tazer one of them bastards and then whistle, look around as he lays on the floor (not moving NOW, i might add) and just say "what??".
I usually have to read your posts a few times to figure out what's going on, but when I finally figure it out, it's awesome and definitely worth the effort.
Hmmmm, er.....thanks!....i think :-/
QuoteHmmmm, er.....thanks!....i think :-/
hahaha. . . you have a unique writing style, that's all I'm saying :)
QuoteQuoteHmmmm, er.....thanks!....i think :-/
hahaha. . . you have a unique writing style, that's all I'm saying :)
...and people wonder why The Jacket doesn't tour in the south.
QuoteQuoteQuoteHmmmm, er.....thanks!....i think :-/
hahaha. . . you have a unique writing style, that's all I'm saying :)
...and people wonder why The Jacket doesn't tour in the south.
Alright, I'm gonna need some help with this one--what does the above have to do with the South?
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHmmmm, er.....thanks!....i think :-/
hahaha. . . you have a unique writing style, that's all I'm saying :)
...and people wonder why The Jacket doesn't tour in the south.
Alright, I'm gonna need some help with this one--what does the above have to do with the South?
I dunno. Sort of a silly statement considering I have seen MMJ over 10x in the South.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHmmmm, er.....thanks!....i think :-/
hahaha. . . you have a unique writing style, that's all I'm saying :)
...and people wonder why The Jacket doesn't tour in the south.
Alright, I'm gonna need some help with this one--what does the above have to do with the South?
I dunno. Sort of a silly statement considering I have seen MMJ over 10x in the South.
Silly is right. MMJ rages the south & the south rages MMJ...simple as that.
Check out what Reznor did in Austra http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo0jiEfdMyU&feature=relatedlia during hurt to talkers.
hah, well, it ain't me he's talking about...i live in Midwest ::)
QuoteShut the fuck up or I swear to God the real fans who are there for the music are going to drag your drunk mongoloid asses out into the alley and twist you into a balloon animal.
Capisce'?
Thank you.
Sincerely yours -
Reals Fans Who Go To Concerts To Hear Music
Kinda pretentious of ya, chappy. Be more attentive and getcha some better tickets. no one up front can communicate because there is to much ROCK occurring.
Fuckin' whiner...
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...and people wonder why The Jacket doesn't tour in the south.
The jackass factor is amazing today. Does anyone remember the PROM in Athens, GEORGIA?? How bout the BEGINNING of this tour?? Who is Bonnaroo's "house band"? Where is Bonnaroo? T-E-N-N-E-S-S-E-E!! Seems to me that the South is where this band cut their teeth. If you don't think Louisville, Kentucky is southern, you be a geographic dummy. Ask Mason & Dickson...
RCMH was the biggest problem. I dunno, last time i checked... NYC is NOT SOUTHERN.. It's "hipster douche" ground zero, as a matter of fact.
People who talk at shows should learn sign language.
QuoteQuoteShut the fuck up or I swear to God the real fans who are there for the music are going to drag your drunk mongoloid asses out into the alley and twist you into a balloon animal.
Capisce'?
Thank you.
Sincerely yours -
Reals Fans Who Go To Concerts To Hear Music
Kinda pretentious of ya, chappy. Be more attentive and getcha some better tickets. no one up front can communicate because there is to much ROCK occurring.
Fuckin' whiner...
Quote
...and people wonder why The Jacket doesn't tour in the south.
The jackass factor is amazing today. Does anyone remember the PROM in Athens, GEORGIA?? How bout the BEGINNING of this tour?? Who is Bonnaroo's "house band"? Where is Bonnaroo? T-E-N-N-E-S-S-E-E!! Seems to me that the South is where this band cut their teeth. If you don't think Louisville, Kentucky is southern, you be a geographic dummy. Ask Mason & Dickson...
RCMH was the biggest problem. I dunno, last time i checked... NYC is NOT SOUTHERN.. It's "hipster douche" ground zero, as a matter of fact.
I was actually second row from the front at philly and there was a huge group of talkers. the fact that the music was so loud up front didn't stop them from trying. they just screamed to introduce their stupid friends to their other stupid friends. It was sad, people are oblivious-its the same kind of people who go out with their children and rather than spend time with them, they just blab on the cell phone all evening.
Why can't bands control the 1st 10 rows at their shows?? It would seem like those spots should be reserved for the die hards but i guess those premium spots arwe too valuable to the ticket brokers. That's as big a deteriorator to the industry as illegal downloading is. I remeber paying 12 bucks to see STP in 1992. My Jackson's Victory Tour tix only cost 45$. they'd be $300 per these days...
I just get so into the band that a masked gunman could shoot the whole place up and as long as the band kept playin' i would be oblivious to it...
I'M JUST SICK OFF PEOPLE WHO THINK THEIR EXPERIENCE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN SOMEONE ELSE'S. Music is a social thing at it's core. It brings people together and sets a vibe. Just because someone doesn't worship the steaming piles of poop left by a musician doesn't mean they shouldn't enjoy the experience THEIR WAY. The shows would still be in bars if that's the only people at them. Where do you think all these new people are from? They are casual music fans who like what they're hearing.
Dig the music but don't infringe on someone else's good time. Freedom of everything!!! Including speech.
Quote...its the same kind of people who go out with their children and rather than spend time with them
What's that mean?
SHUT THE FUCK UP! IM WITH YOU!
Kewl.
QuoteQuote...its the same kind of people who go out with their children and rather than spend time with them
What's that mean?
uh- I'll give you an example
I was in a grocery store a couple months ago and I watched (for a while until I actually left) this older gentleman with his little daughter walking down the aisle- the guy had an ear piece in his ear and he was loudly talking into it- occasionally cursing- he never acknowledged his little girl once the whole time i was watching this go down. and from the time i saw him- until the time I left the store, he was on his phone.
another example
I was in vacation eating at this deli that they had on the resort grounds- I witnessed a father and daughter eating lunch together- during majority of their time together the guy was on his cellphone again not acknowledging the little girl in front of him- she sat in silence the entire time looking terribly sad.
I;m under the belief that little events like that- going to the store with your child are KEY opportunities to have fun and create a strong bond with your kids, i understand that sometimes things come up and it very well may be that those too men are actually excellent fathers- but not from what I observed. People should be aware that the growth of a child into a respectful caring human- starts with the parents and should spend as much time with their kids while they can- because once they grow up, you never get that much time again.
I do agree with that you said about freedom of everything- I just wish they were more respectful of the people around them- if you casually listen to music or the band then go to the show- support them. Either fight your way to the front and be attentive- active listeners, or stay in the back and talk and enjoy the music in the background of your conversation.
QuoteQuoteQuote...its the same kind of people who go out with their children and rather than spend time with them
What's that mean?
uh- I'll give you an example
I was in a grocery store a couple months ago and I watched (for a while until I actually left) this older gentleman with his little daughter walking down the aisle- the guy had an ear piece in his ear and he was loudly talking into it- occasionally cursing- he never acknowledged his little girl once the whole time i was watching this go down. and from the time i saw him- until the time I left the store, he was on his phone.
another example
I was in vacation eating at this deli that they had on the resort grounds- I witnessed a father and daughter eating lunch together- during majority of their time together the guy was on his cellphone again not acknowledging the little girl in front of him- she sat in silence the entire time looking terribly sad.
I;m under the belief that little events like that- going to the store with your child are KEY opportunities to have fun and create a strong bond with your kids, i understand that sometimes things come up and it very well may be that those too men are actually excellent fathers- but not from what I observed. People should be aware that the growth of a child into a respectful caring human- starts with the parents and should spend as much time with their kids while they can- because once they grow up, you never get that much time again.
I do agree with that you said about freedom of everything- I just wish they were more respectful of the people around them- if you casually listen to music or the band then go to the show- support them. Either fight your way to the front and be attentive- active listeners, or stay in the back and talk and enjoy the music in the background of your conversation.
I agree
Quote Why can't bands control the 1st 10 rows at their shows??.....Freedom of everything!!!
Nice contradiction; on one hand you want the band to
control who is in the first 10 rows, on the other hand you want
freedom of everything.
clear as mud
Mr. Talky McGabsalot, the self professed "MMJ's biggest fan", was directly behind me last night at the Greek. The man would not shut the eff up! All night long, giving a running commentary on the set list, questioning when, o when, will they play their best song ever, Wordless Chorus, and ripping into every song that was not Wordless Chorus.
I had to laugh when he said, "I don't understand why their lamest songs are the longest songs?".....
The song in question - Touch me Part II. The dude is a complete jackass.
Thank god he shut up - and went home - and after his song was played.
He should have just stayed home and listened to Z - we probably both would have had a better time. (Ok, I still rocked out!)
He must really like Wordless if he went to a three hour show just to hear it. That is to bad a real fan didn't have his ticket...
They were there at the Greek 5 feet from the stage...Yeah, hard to contain yourself when you're like 19 and you're friends are there, the band is on fire, and the JD and ganj are flowing but...SHUT UP! Thankfully, the greatest offender on Friday night - when confronted by my grizzled statement that "I was there to hear the show"- did indeed SHUT UP...maybe he will even think 2x next time...Yes, seen a bunch of bands (over my 30+ years of going to shows) get big and start to draw the new fans who aren't hanging on every note or are too busy partying to notice the nuances around them. Been one of the offenders too in my youth (though usually not the chatty Kathy and more the stumbling freak)...Jeff Tweedy has actually addressed this issue in his solo shows in a pretty straightforward and thoughtful way...calling bullshit on the yappers...I think it takes a little vigilanteism on the part of the audiophiles...call b s on your neighbor if they are spoilers...Live and let live is cool...until is kills someone else's buzz. If you want to yap, go up on the lawn and enjoy the view. :'(
Quote"I'll tell ya' fuckers something, alright? Now listen. Just fucking listen and shut up. Alright?
Either sit down or stand up or lay down or do something but SHUT UP! Alright?
This is a fucking rock and roll concert, not a fucking tea party! Alright?"
Pete Townshend, Long Beach Arena, December 10th, 1971.
Alright, Pete!
Pete and Jeff got it right...Yap all ya want outside...inside is rock church...