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Title: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: JKK on Jul 28, 2010, 06:47 PM
In an interview with Relix TB had this to say:

What additional songs will be included throughout the sets other than the ones featured on each record?

We're hoping to do a lot of material from around the era of each particular album. Some random covers that we've done over the years,—which there have been tons of— EPs and B sides that we can throw in the mix. There might be some new songs in there as well. We'll also probably play some crowd favorites during the encore every night.


Is it just me? Or are there any other 5 night pass holders that are mildly upset by this? Don't get me wrong, I completely understand that they need to satisfy people who bought single day tickets. But as someone who is attending every night, I was hoping to experience the build, anticipation and arch of the entire catalogue as it was written. If I'm going to be hearing OBH and Smokin on the first night, or OBH every night for that matter, I think that will take away some of the luster that it could have had unnraveling naturally from begining to end.

Just me?
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: aMillionDreams on Jul 28, 2010, 06:52 PM
Just you.
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: Tracy 3000 on Jul 28, 2010, 06:54 PM
Just you

Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: JKK on Jul 28, 2010, 07:00 PM
Fair enough. Seems like everyone else is up for hearing the same song 5 nights in a row. Cool.
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: Tracy 3000 on Jul 28, 2010, 07:20 PM
QuoteFair enough. Seems like everyone else is up for hearing the same song 5 nights in a row. Cool.

My God, how will you survive?

I tell you what, I am worried sick about you having to endure such unusual pain and suffering (very inconsiderate of the band!), so how about you come to Nashville and work for me during that week and I'll take one for the team and see MMJ perform all of their studio releases live. I really don't know if I am up for that, you know, missing work, watching one of my favorite bands perform every studio song they have released, but I care so deeply about my fellow forum members that I am willing to make that sacrifice so you don't have to suffer.

lem'me know.   :)
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: JKK on Jul 28, 2010, 07:28 PM
Tracy,

You got it! Let's switch places. You seem to fully grasp the concept I was bringing up. Hey while we're at it, lets get network TV involved to document our swap. Just shoot me a text and we can exchange information.

Not once did I say I was suffering. Of course if I had to see any artist play 5 nights in a row it would be MMJ, they could play the same set everynight. I was merely commenting on what my speculation/imagination dreamed up about the 5 Nights. I think it's safe to assume that everyone on this site is excited about the idea, until now we have had very little information about how it would take place. Now that we do know a bit more, people can start discussing what will be as oppossed to what they thought it would be.

I'll be waiting for your text.
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: BIGVICLBI on Jul 28, 2010, 07:29 PM
I actually agree with you JKK but for people that have never seen them before I'd probably want to hear mageetah, obh, smoking, etc. I do see where you could lose some possible rare covers for those songs and for people that have seen them a bunch of times I would rather hear the rarities as well. Either way I highly doubt you will be dissapointed.
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: ericm on Jul 28, 2010, 07:41 PM
Doesn't bother me. Can never get enough Live MMJ, so whatever they want to play in addition to the albums is fine by me. I'd take 5 Steam Engines and OBH's in one week, no matter where they are in the set, anytime.

One of the fun things for me about hearing the 5 albums from start to finish, will be hearing some of the "crowd faves" played earlier in the show on their particular album night,instead of as encores on the other nights.

I've seen several Springsteen and Steely Dan "album" nights and it was great getting some classics not in their normal slot.

Each of them did their "album" nights differently. Steely Dan opened with the album,and the 2nd half and encores were a bunch of classics.

Bruce did the albums about 5 -6 songs into the show, and followed up with more songs and encores. Kind of an album sandwich. I actually liked that a bit better, cause you were never quite sure when the album was coming.

I'm interested to see how MMJ does it. I'm leaning towards them opening the shows with the album.
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: Crispy on Jul 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
You know what? There are a LOT of crowd favorites. They could play a different set of faves for an encore all five nights and not have any repeats. Besides, I highly doubt that on the It Still Moves night they will play One Big Holiday twice. Unless they were to whip out a jazzed-up reggae version employing the horns from Elvis Perkins in Dearland, that is...

I think I'll be surprised if they repeat any one song during the entire five-night stretch.
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: capt. scotty on Jul 28, 2010, 08:03 PM
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I think I'll be surprised if they repeat any one song during the entire five-night stretch.

They would pretty much have to if you go by that quote, but I get what youre saying
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: Crispy on Jul 28, 2010, 08:07 PM
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I think I'll be surprised if they repeat any one song during the entire five-night stretch.

They would pretty much have to if you go by that quote, but I get what youre saying
Okay, maybe I won't really be surprised, but I bet there won't be a lot.
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: Tracy 3000 on Jul 28, 2010, 08:09 PM
QuoteTracy,

You got it! Let's switch places. You seem to fully grasp the concept I was bringing up. Hey while we're at it, lets get network TV involved to document our swap. Just shoot me a text and we can exchange information.

Not once did I say I was suffering. Of course if I had to see any artist play 5 nights in a row it would be MMJ, they could play the same set everynight. I was merely commenting on what my speculation/imagination dreamed up about the 5 Nights. I think it's safe to assume that everyone on this site is excited about the idea, until now we have had very little information about how it would take place. Now that we do know a bit more, people can start discussing what will be as oppossed to what they thought it would be.

I'll be waiting for your text.

I'll pray about it
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: AlwxanderD10 on Jul 28, 2010, 08:16 PM
I'm so sorry you have to go to New York to see mmj play play all five albums, I feel so bad for you.
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: Tracy 3000 on Jul 28, 2010, 08:34 PM
QuoteI'm so sorry you have to go to New York to see mmj play play all five albums, I feel so bad for you.

See? this is what I am saying. I think this is a statement about where our society is headed as a whole. It's not enough to see your favorite band live, on 5 nights in 1 week, and they're playing all their studio releases; no, that's not enough. And the reason they're playing the crowd favorites is for..... THE FANS!!

Maybe I'm old....  :-/  (well, I am, but still).

Can you imagine if Led Zeppelin played 5 nights in a row, cranking out Led Zeppelin I, Led Zeppelin II, Led Zeppelin III, Led Zeppelin IV, and Houses of the Holy and you had fuktards in the crowd pissing and moaning about having to hear Ramble On or Black Dog again!

Make it make sense!!!!
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: ralph on Jul 28, 2010, 09:17 PM
I hope to hear One Big Holiday live as many times in my life as possible, and hopefully that will happen on more than one occasion during the residency! There is no way a person with a pulse could get sick of hearing this song live.
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: johnnYYac on Jul 28, 2010, 09:41 PM
Many of you heard me report in on my 3-show run to Birmingham, Nashville, and Atlanta from New Hampshire in April.  I plunked down $1000 for airfare, hotel, and rental car.  I got virtually identical setlists for all three shows.  I was a bit disappointed to not get a Steam Engine, War Begun, etc. But

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Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: el_chode on Jul 28, 2010, 09:48 PM
I'm not sure I see the controversy here. I'm not being sarcastic either...what's the rub? You make it seem like they're not really playing the whole album, but only choice cuts.

Anyway, I know we have the covers comp, but is there any sort of archive that lists when what covers were covered when? It's easy to figure out the B-sides just by EP release dates. But if they play A Quick One, I'm assuming that'll be on Z. But what about songs like Celebration (assuming that's even a cover)? That was played on Oregon Trail NYE in '06, but was also featured at MSG NYE

Just want to know what to expect when I guess
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: el_chode on Jul 28, 2010, 09:49 PM
QuoteMany of you heard me report in on my 3-show run to Birmingham, Nashville, and Atlanta from New Hampshire in April.  I plunked down $1000 for airfare, hotel, and rental car.  I got virtually identical setlists for all three shows.  I was a bit disappointed to not get a Steam Engine, War Begun, etc. But

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IT WAS AWESOME!
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That reminds me of the time in my car for an entire week I kept putting on the Bonnaroo 2006 show in my stereo and wouldn'tchaknowit, it was the same set list every single time! Yet somehow...and maybe it was magic...but somehow I still really enjoyed listening to it even thought it was like totally identical.
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: Im The Dude on Jul 28, 2010, 10:35 PM
To me, I don't care what that play. Im just happy to get to see our favorite band with my wife and close friend. We traveled from Pittsburgh to Detroit to see them. And just recently we went to Columbus. I'd probably drive to any state if it was near PA.

Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: FiddleCastro on Jul 29, 2010, 02:39 AM
The fact I get to see MMJ 5 nights in a row is enough for me....

They could've played the same 10 songs all 5 nights, and i'd be cool with it.

Instead, they're giving us EVERYTHING. + EVERYTHING... AGAIN. Can't really complain....
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: SaraBananaBear on Jul 29, 2010, 05:18 AM
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QuoteI'm so sorry you have to go to New York to see mmj play play all five albums, I feel so bad for you.

See? this is what I am saying. [highlight]I think this is a statement about where our society is headed as a whole[/highlight]. It's not enough to see your favorite band live, on 5 nights in 1 week, and they're playing all their studio releases; no, that's not enough. And the reason they're playing the crowd favorites is for..... THE FANS!!

Maybe I'm old....  :-/  (well, I am, but still).

Can you imagine if Led Zeppelin played 5 nights in a row, cranking out Led Zeppelin I, Led Zeppelin II, Led Zeppelin III, Led Zeppelin IV, and Houses of the Holy and you had fuktards in the crowd pissing and moaning about having to hear Ramble On or Black Dog again!

Make it make sense!!!!

Agree with all of this, but especially highlighted. I understand discussing expectations and such, but really I can't see one negative thing with these shows. I would not sell my parents + grandparents to go, but I would maybe rent them out, not that anyone would want them... but still! These shows will without a doubt be amazing, awesome, incredible, unforgettable and more!  :D
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: Tracy 3000 on Jul 29, 2010, 08:17 AM
Quote
Quote
QuoteI'm so sorry you have to go to New York to see mmj play play all five albums, I feel so bad for you.

See? this is what I am saying. [highlight]I think this is a statement about where our society is headed as a whole[/highlight]. It's not enough to see your favorite band live, on 5 nights in 1 week, and they're playing all their studio releases; no, that's not enough. And the reason they're playing the crowd favorites is for..... THE FANS!!

Maybe I'm old....  :-/  (well, I am, but still).

Can you imagine if Led Zeppelin played 5 nights in a row, cranking out Led Zeppelin I, Led Zeppelin II, Led Zeppelin III, Led Zeppelin IV, and Houses of the Holy and you had fuktards in the crowd pissing and moaning about having to hear Ramble On or Black Dog again!

Make it make sense!!!!

Agree with all of this, but especially highlighted. I understand discussing expectations and such, but really I can't see one negative thing with these shows. I would not sell my parents + grandparents to go, but I would maybe rent them out, not that anyone would want them... but still! These shows will without a doubt be amazing, awesome, incredible, unforgettable and more!  :D

I'd rent your grandparents. Sometimes I stay up late at night and my wife is in bed asleep. It would be cool to rent your grandparents and have them here and I could turn to them and say things like, "Hey, how about this weather?" or "Tell me about the 60's".  :)
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: el_chode on Jul 29, 2010, 08:42 AM
OH now I get it.

I'm glad they're doing that. I've got some friends coming only to the EU show because that's all they know and they refuse to give in to my constant nagging to listen to other albums. So when they realize the awesomeness they just missed, they will repent
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: JKK on Jul 29, 2010, 01:08 PM
I really didn't inttend to argue with anyone in these forums. We all share a bond over the passion we feel for My Morning Jacket, otherwise none of us would even contemplate taking the minutes out of our lives to come here and converse with one another. So let it be known, I look to only have positive interactions with all of you. There's too much negativity going on else where in the world, don't need it with my felllow MMJ commrades.

I suppose I also wrongly or inaccurately stated my opening thread.

When I first heard the idea of 5 nights/5 albums, my mind started racing. How are they going to structure their set? Who will join them on stage? Will we witness something close to Okonokos as far as lighting and set design? Will they build ALL aspects of the show from TF to EU (ie. minimal lighting, stage props as if regressing to how they band actually started, to full blown rock show set ups they've been using since Z)? The idea of the natural progression, or journey of them as a band struck me, and stuck with me.

Make no mistake, when a band does this, it says a lot about where they came from to where they are. We here at this forum know better than most about the bands growth, the bands developement. When they hit the stage for TF they will be reflecting on their beginning. How it all started, us as audience members will be privy to something very special. This journey that will take place before our very eyes, the journey within a journey has potential to be one of the most important MMJ moments in the history of the band. It will no doubt be emotional for all involved.

I guess I was approaching from a purist standpoint. Knowing that the arch and build up to whatever song, OBH, Wordless Chorus, Strangulation, you name it, would be escalating to Evil Urges and the explosions that ensue in many of the tracks included. I just thought that no matter what, with the band and the passionate fans who have purchased the 5 day passes, all together exeperiencing a complete story from the start to the end, any fan, or periphial fan who purchased single show tickets would be blown away by the sheer roller coaster and energy created by this process (as if to say, anyone seeing them for the first time would not have to hear OBH to understand the magnitude and importance of what they bring to the table).

Not to say this cathartic feeling cannot be captured in whatever way MMJ chooses to present it. They can't screw this up, we all know that.

But for me personally. Hearing Wordless Chorus or Smokin from Shootin on TF night, will be completely different then if I were to go through 4 exhausting, exhilirating nights before my ears caught the sound of the low pulsing intro of Smokin from Shootin. Completely different. Not bad. Just different. Hopefully this is a little more clear, or perhaps it's just as perplexing and inviting more people like Tracy to comment on society and how we are a huge group of complaining idiots. Or maybe, just maybe we are a society trying to vocalize our imagination and understanding of the art we digest.

Who knows. Probably both.
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: itrainmonkeys on Jul 29, 2010, 01:14 PM
I see where you're coming from with the escalation and something special and all that........but really it seems like you're complaining about getting more My Morning Jacket and that just seems silly  ;D. I'm sure it will still be an astounding time and we'll all be talking about how awesome it was after.
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights N
Post by: Penny Lane on Jul 29, 2010, 01:20 PM
QuoteI really didn't inttend to argue with anyone in these forums. We all share a bond over the passion we feel for My Morning Jacket, otherwise none of us would even contemplate taking the minutes out of our lives to come here and converse with one another. So let it be known, I look to only have positive interactions with all of you. There's too much negativity going on else where in the world, don't need it with my felllow MMJ commrades.

I suppose I also wrongly or inaccurately stated my opening thread.

When I first heard the idea of 5 nights/5 albums, my mind started racing. How are they going to structure their set? Who will join them on stage? Will we witness something close to Okonokos as far as lighting and set design? Will they build ALL aspects of the show from TF to EU (ie. minimal lighting, stage props as if regressing to how they band actually started, to full blown rock show set ups they've been using since Z)? The idea of the natural progression, or journey of them as a band struck me, and stuck with me.

Make no mistake, when a band does this, it says a lot about where they came from to where they are. We here at this forum know better than most about the bands growth, the bands developement. When they hit the stage for TF they will be reflecting on their beginning. How it all started, us as audience members will be privy to something very special. This journey that will take place before our very eyes, the journey within a journey has potential to be one of the most important MMJ moments in the history of the band. It will no doubt be emotional for all involved.

I guess I was approaching from a purist standpoint. Knowing that the arch and build up to whatever song, OBH, Wordless Chorus, Strangulation, you name it, would be escalating to Evil Urges and the explosions that ensue in many of the tracks included. I just thought that no matter what, with the band and the passionate fans who have purchased the 5 day passes, all together exeperiencing a complete story from the start to the end, any fan, or periphial fan who purchased single show tickets would be blown away by the sheer roller coaster and energy created by this process (as if to say, anyone seeing them for the first time would not have to hear OBH to understand the magnitude and importance of what they bring to the table).

Not to say this cathartic feeling cannot be captured in whatever way MMJ chooses to present it. They can't screw this up, we all know that.

But for me personally. Hearing Wordless Chorus or Smokin from Shootin on TF night, will be completely different then if I were to go through 4 exhausting, exhilirating nights before my ears caught the sound of the low pulsing intro of Smokin from Shootin. Completely different. Not bad. Just different. Hopefully this is a little more clear, or perhaps it's just as perplexing and inviting more people like Tracy to comment on society and how we are a huge group of complaining idiots. Or maybe, just maybe we are a society trying to vocalize our imagination and understanding of the art we digest.

Who knows. Probably both.

i got what you were saying, and i also thought it was gonna be more of a buildup thing and didn't realize they would throw in other album songs for other nights. they've never failed to surprise and astound me, i'm not gonna think twice if i hear OBH at all 5 shows or once...think it was just "off putting" to start the thread about it...but i get where you're coming from. it's all good.

basically, whatever milkshake they give me, i'm drinking.  ;)

PS Welcome to the forum.
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: DaFunkyPrecedent on Jul 29, 2010, 01:49 PM
if i have to hear Gideon, OBH and Wordless Chorus 5 nights in a row, I'll be PISSED...those songs are terrible.  
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights N
Post by: Tracy 3000 on Jul 29, 2010, 02:02 PM
2:24- "Like, how quickly the world owes him something he knew existed only 10 seconds ago"

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk[/media]
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: SaraBananaBear on Jul 29, 2010, 04:02 PM
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Quote
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QuoteI'm so sorry you have to go to New York to see mmj play play all five albums, I feel so bad for you.

See? this is what I am saying. [highlight]I think this is a statement about where our society is headed as a whole[/highlight]. It's not enough to see your favorite band live, on 5 nights in 1 week, and they're playing all their studio releases; no, that's not enough. And the reason they're playing the crowd favorites is for..... THE FANS!!

Maybe I'm old....  :-/  (well, I am, but still).

Can you imagine if Led Zeppelin played 5 nights in a row, cranking out Led Zeppelin I, Led Zeppelin II, Led Zeppelin III, Led Zeppelin IV, and Houses of the Holy and you had fuktards in the crowd pissing and moaning about having to hear Ramble On or Black Dog again!

Make it make sense!!!!

Agree with all of this, but especially highlighted. I understand discussing expectations and such, but really I can't see one negative thing with these shows. I would not sell my parents + grandparents to go, but I would maybe rent them out, not that anyone would want them... but still! These shows will without a doubt be amazing, awesome, incredible, unforgettable and more!  :D

I'd rent your grandparents. Sometimes I stay up late at night and my wife is in bed asleep. It would be cool to rent your grandparents and have them here and I could turn to them and say things like, "Hey, how about this weather?" or "Tell me about the 60's".  :)

Hahahaha, it's a deal! I'll send them over shortly... I'll just have to explain the situation to them, but I'm pretty sure they'll understand that I need to send them away for money so I can go see the best band in the world...  ;)
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: e_wind on Jul 29, 2010, 04:51 PM
I see what you're saying, but I'm pretty sure there isn't one song they'll play every single night. I'm sure on EU night they will play a ridiculously long set with all crowd favorites, but other than that there are so many crowd pleasers that they won't have to play them more than twice. That is unless they plan on playing for 3+ hours every night. Which would be awesome, but probably wont happen.
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: e_wind on Jul 29, 2010, 04:53 PM
On that note, I would listen to them play Steam Engine, The Bear, One Big Holiday, etc etc my favorite songs etc for 24 hours straight over and over and be extremely happy.
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: walterfredo on Jul 29, 2010, 04:57 PM
I find it odd that JKK is being attacked on this.  I gotta say I'm somewhat in agreement with JKK on this one.  I was really hoping to not hear any repeats during the run, and I think the songs from each album should only be played that particular night, but I'm not in the band so my opinion really doesn't mean squat.  That said, it really doesn't bother me that much, it's going to be serious epicness all the same.  
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: mgriff73 on Jul 29, 2010, 06:57 PM
If this is all I have to worry about in life, then life is good.
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: Pork Soda on Jul 29, 2010, 11:23 PM
maybe they won't play songs from other periods until the week progresses. like tennessee fire night is stuff from '99, at dawn is anything '99-2001, it still moves '99-2003, and so forth, until we have an epic 4 hour finale on evil urges night. that would be amazing.

Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights N
Post by: Bigsky on Jul 30, 2010, 10:18 AM
QuoteIn an interview with Relix TB had this to say:

What additional songs will be included throughout the sets other than the ones featured on each record?

We're hoping to do a lot of material from around the era of each particular album. Some random covers that we've done over the years,—which there have been tons of— EPs and B sides that we can throw in the mix. There might be some new songs in there as well. We'll also probably play some crowd favorites during the encore every night.


Is it just me? Or are there any other 5 night pass holders that are mildly upset by this? Don't get me wrong, I completely understand that they need to satisfy people who bought single day tickets. But as someone who is attending every night, I was hoping to experience the build, anticipation and arch of the entire catalogue as it was written. If I'm going to be hearing OBH and Smokin on the first night, or OBH every night for that matter, I think that will take away some of the luster that it could have had unnraveling naturally from begining to end.

Just me?

You make me "mildly upset". Who am I kidding...you fucking pissed me off. Are you serious...this is an issue for you? You are bothered about hearing "crowd favorites". Can you listed me the crowd favorites you are worried about hearing? I don't think there are many songs that aren't crowd favorites, and MMJ has a very large catalog of songs to choose from.
I know you are new to this forum, but please don't bitch about something like this; you are about to see the boys for 5 nights in 1 week, so sit down and be quiet.

"I wouldn't make a sound, if I wasn't so angry..."
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights N
Post by: jones on Jul 30, 2010, 11:04 AM
I would just bring my iPod and ear buds to the show.  That way I could listen to the song of my choosing if I didn't like what I was hearing live.  If the band was really pissing me off, I would just make an entire playlist of songs to listen to and I would just stare at them.  When the lights went down and everyone started leaving, I would hit stop on my iPod and return to my hotel room, looking forward to the next night.  Simple solution.

(http://urbanupdater.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/ipodbuckle.jpg)
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: ynwa on Jul 30, 2010, 11:26 AM
jkk, i think you were perfectly clear in your OP.  i see where you're coming from, i was imagining things in quite the same way when this run of shows was announced.  it sure seemed logical to assume that would be the way of things.  but i don't think you should be upset with this news just because it doesn't fit in with what you had imagined it would be.  just go with it.  there will be no disappointments, only pure awesomeness.

re: this forum, first and foremost - welcome!  and please feel free to post your thoughts, feelings, stories, poems, keyboard art, etc.  people will react & respond in all sorts of ways.  for the most part, i find the people here to be very kind.  they help when they can and share all sorts of wonderful things.  it's just that when you post a negative comment about the band/tour etc - these same kind people go all fisticuffs in defence of our beloved mmj  :)

(just as a side note: you'll find the terminal 5 shows to be a very sore topic for many on here who aren't as fortunate as those of us who will be experiencing this epic event.  not saying you have to walk on eggshells or anything, just be prepared for the inevitible backlash.)        
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights N
Post by: Ruckus on Jul 30, 2010, 11:46 AM
 Welcome jkk.  I commend you for having faced the music and then rearticulated.  In one way or another I think most people get ya.  However there is something to be said about receiving something wonderful than having to nitpick.  Wilco played Shot in the Arm and Impossible Germany multiple times during their residency and while I'm sure some bitched, I think it went over very well.

Here's a crappy analogy:

It's like bangin' a dude's wife for five days while the husband really misses her and then telling him that although she put out all five nights, she needs to work on her fellatiating skills, lose some weight, and do that other thing.
[smiley=bath.gif]
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: mahg33ta on Jul 30, 2010, 11:58 AM
If you are reading that quote from relix "we'll probably play some crowd favorites in the encore each night" as the SAME favorites each night, then I can see your point - ideally you wouldn't want the encore of:  wordless / highly suspicious / OBH / dancefloors (for ex) every night in a perfect world (but I'd still take it!)

BUT, I highly doubt that's what they meant - so if they mix it up and you hear the same song 2 or even 3 times over the course of the week, so what? (esp. in a different context each night).  

If you are really worked up about hearing any song more than once in a week, that's crazy.   They are called crowd FAVORITES for a reason, ya know.
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: jones on Jul 30, 2010, 12:11 PM
Oh yeah....


(http://www.beachhut.co.uk/images/welcome-aboard-buoy-red.jpg)
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: red on Jul 30, 2010, 12:37 PM
1. this thread is an abomination.
2. the band seems to know what they're doing so relax.
3. if you literally cannot bear to hear a more popular song after an entire album, go home?
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights N
Post by: johnnYYac on Jul 30, 2010, 01:13 PM
I'm not going to be able to make the T5 shows but I understand the temptation to speculate.  I'm sure I've done it in the past.  However, lately I've been approaching shows (like Yim in Newport tomorrow) without wondering "what songs will be played?" or "I hope they play ___."  

You know they'll be playing a particular album on the given night.  You know they'll add B-sides, covers, unreleased, and new material.  You know they'll play some "crowd favorites."  Now, I'd suggest you wait and see what happens.  I'm sure you won't be disappointed and you'll save yourself a lot of stress.  

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Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: manicfanatic on Jul 30, 2010, 01:21 PM
Stop the fucking whining!!  It's MMJ in NYC for 5 nights.  So what if you hear some songs more than 1 night!!  A lot of people on this board would love to trade places with you!!  Be glad you will be there!!!
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights N
Post by: Hawkeye on Jul 30, 2010, 01:40 PM
Quote2:24- "Like, how quickly the world owes him something he knew existed only 10 seconds ago"

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk[/media]

Tracy, thanks for that.  He never fails to make me laugh.

To the noob:  I totally understand what you're saying.  It will be interesting to see what approach they take.  I REALLY, REALLY hope they record these shows and put out a DVD, considering I won't be able to make it.
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights N
Post by: ALady on Jul 30, 2010, 01:56 PM
QuoteWelcome jkk.  I commend you for having faced the music and then rearticulated.  In one way or another I think most people get ya.  However there is something to be said about receiving something wonderful than having to nitpick.  Wilco played Shot in the Arm and Impossible Germany multiple times during their residency and while I'm sure some bitched, I think it went over very well.

Ding ding ding.  And that residency was a blast, repeats and all.  

I totally understand where the OP is coming from, but they'd be awfully short sets if they just played the albums straight through.  You have to figure most folks won't be there for all five nights, and are going to want a full Jacket show even if they can only make it to one night.  Personally I'm glad they're going to flesh out each evening a bit more with the b-sides, covers and hits set.

It's a celebration of all things Jacket, y'all.   :)

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al1aAbj5Rmg[/media]
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: johnnYYac on Jul 30, 2010, 02:14 PM
Tracy 3K, just watched that Louie CK clip.

;D ;D ;D

I love that guy.  He's so "on point".  Check out his show on FX.

I was in high school when we got cable.  It had fewer than 30 channels.

My first car with AC and power windows came when I was 32.

To program our first VCR, you had to manipulate a dozen little switches.

Now, even I bitch when my interweb is slow or my cell drops a call.

Too funny...
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights N
Post by: Hawkeye on Jul 30, 2010, 02:23 PM
Quote
QuoteWelcome jkk.  I commend you for having faced the music and then rearticulated.  In one way or another I think most people get ya.  However there is something to be said about receiving something wonderful than having to nitpick.  Wilco played Shot in the Arm and Impossible Germany multiple times during their residency and while I'm sure some bitched, I think it went over very well.

Ding ding ding.  And that residency was a blast, repeats and all.  

I totally understand where the OP is coming from, but they'd be awfully short sets if they just played the albums straight through.  You have to figure most folks won't be there for all five nights, and are going to want a full Jacket show even if they can only make it to one night.  Personally I'm glad they're going to flesh out each evening a bit more with the b-sides, covers and hits set.

It's a celebration of all things Jacket, y'all.   :)

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al1aAbj5Rmg[/media]

Get down on it!  Get yo back up off the wall!!!   8-)

Was that you taping, ALady?  I haven't really watched many clips from that show.  Looks like a blast tho!
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: ALady on Jul 30, 2010, 02:33 PM
Nuh uh, I was dancin' too hard to be taping anything!   ;D  It was a really good time.
Title: Re: Against "crowd favorites" for 5 nights NYC
Post by: AlbertNiles on Jul 30, 2010, 02:35 PM
I'm actually happy that they'll be doing some crowd favorites each night, but not for my own sake.  I really enjoy bringing friends to their first MMJ show, and with my 5 day pass, I plan on doing just that.  I'd like them to see the full onslaught.