not trying to put a damper on anything, because this is a pretty amazing thing they're doing, but the terminal 5 is absolutely the worst venue i've ever been to. the sound is god fucking awful. i walked from the floor to the back bar for a beer and the sound literally disappears. so take that into consideration, although i'm strongly thinking about going.
Quotenot trying to put a damper on anything, because this is a pretty amazing thing they're doing, but the terminal 5 is absolutely the worst venue i've ever been to. the sound is god fucking awful. i walked from the floor to the back bar for a beer and the sound literally disappears. so take that into consideration, although i'm strongly thinking about going.
hopefully the people who attend these concerts realize the TFF/At Dawn nights will be chill as hell. it will be good practice for the n00bs to learn when to shut the fuck up.
I'm almost more excited they're playing the album and "songs from the era they were made" or whatever. who knows what kind of bust outs we're going to get over these five days? I wonder if they're going for their entire catalog... one can only hope.
thanks for the heads up, i appreciate your good intentions. but dude - don't look a gift horse in the mouth!
this series is such a fucking awesome concept!!!
Quotethanks for the heads up, i appreciate your good intentions. but dude - don't look a gift horse in the mouth!
this series is such a fucking awesome concept!!!
Totally agree.
Simple solution is don't leave the floor and go to the back bar!
QuoteQuotenot trying to put a damper on anything, because this is a pretty amazing thing they're doing, but the terminal 5 is absolutely the worst venue i've ever been to. the sound is god fucking awful. i walked from the floor to the back bar for a beer and the sound literally disappears. so take that into consideration, although i'm strongly thinking about going.
hopefully the people who attend these concerts realize the TFF/At Dawn nights will be chill as hell. it will be good practice for the n00bs to learn when to shut the fuck up.
I'm almost more excited they're playing the album and "songs from the era they were made" or whatever. who knows what kind of bust outs we're going to get over these five days? I wonder if they're going for their entire catalog... one can only hope.
Chill...that is until the war begun and we all suffer from strangulation
I have been to Terminal 5 for a concert and I have to disagree. A real nice place, 3 floors all overlooking the stage. Tons of bars throughout the venue, rooftop to smoke. I was pleasantly surprised when I went and can't wait to go back again.
Quoteterminal 5 is absolutely the worst venue i've ever been to.
i have to agree there, but despite the venue i still remain [size=18]beyond excited !![/size] the sound is indeed sucky though.
i went to a show there last month and i didnt think the sound was bad at all. i was on the 1st balcony behind the sound/lights guys.
LOL .... He's right
Terminal 5 is the worse venue in the City
I've been to a handful of shows at Terminal 5 and have no complaints. Maybe in certain parts of the venue it sounds crappier but everywhere i've stood in front of the stage has had good audio. My hearing isn't super-sensitive and I don't know much about audio setups....but I have no complaints.
I've seen Levon and Dr. Dog here, never had a problem with the sound. Don't be fooled by the three floors though, if your not actually on the rail on the second or third floor, you can't see shit.
QuoteI've seen Levon and Dr. Dog here, never had a problem with the sound. Don't be fooled by the three floors though, if your not actually on the rail on the second or third floor, you can't see shit.
True. Also, one side on the second level is usually reserved for VIPs....so many people think it's empty and run up to grab that spot but then aren't allowed in.
I have been to T5 maybe 10 times and I don't think it is as bad as most people say it is. My Major problem with it is that over sell the place and it get's way too crowded.
QuoteI have been to T5 maybe 10 times and I don't think it is as bad as most people say it is. My Major problem with it is that over sell the place and it get's way too crowded.
Yea, if you want a good spot it's best to get there before the doors open and hang out in line. Getting there too late would may leave you too far off to the side of the stage.
I'd love to here some more input on the venue from folks who have gone before....especially to sold out shows there. Certainly not trying to bring negativity into the shows, I'm fired up and cannot wait! But after reading through several pages of reviews on yelp, gotta say I'm a bit nervous. It's gonna be off the hook no matter what. They could do this in empty warehouse and I'd be there.
Any locals have any insight on the best way to rock the venue?
they could play this run on mute and i would be pumped...who cares about the venue. it's gonna be great, don't worry
anybody actually figure out the capacity for T5?
I have heard it is about 3000.
QuoteI have heard it is about 3000.
that's what I'm seeing.
and I'm not "worried" at all, I'm ready to rage the place. Just wanted some insider info, seems the place has some good spots and some crappy spots.
I haven't actually ever been to T5! Almost saw the National there a few weeks back... I may be going to see of Montreal there on the 18th, and report back.
Was there in the spring for Deer Tick/Dr. Dog, I liked it. Didn't feel like waiting in line to get up front, so we opted for the rail on the first balcony. Decent view and sound was alright, nothing awful or spectacular.
On a side note, I can't imagine someone letting the venue decide whether or not they'll see some truly unique, one of a kind shows. I'd see all 5 nights of this if they were playing on a trash barge.
Compared to a few places in Philly, T5 isn't all that bad!!
cmon i mean is there any question that any of us here arent going to be right up in front for all 5 of these shows? Just get there early enough and we'll all be fine 8-)
Quotecmon i mean is there any question that any of us here arent going to be right up in front for all 5 of these shows? Just get there early enough and we'll all be fine 8-)
I most likely will not. In my ripe old age of 27, I have learned that I often prefer to be in the peripheral, where I can easily access the bar and minimize the risk of that fat girl in doc martins kicking me in the head from behind when she thinks its a good idea to crowd surf during golden or the fratty douchebag starts a moshpit with all his brahs during Knot Comes Loose
The only time I have every been to T5 was years ago when I was 17 and it was then a club called Exit. I should probably keep that information to myself though. ;D
The place is huge. The sound system was good then. I don't know about now, but I'm sure everything will be ok! ;)
if it was 5 nights playing live at best buy, a minor league ballpark or in an airplane hanger we would all still be there. It's a small venue and they are playing a once in a lifetime 5 night stand of every album. Just be ready to have a spectacular once-in-a-lifetime experience. Is there anything in October that you are looking forward to more?
This is something all of us going to all 5 will remember and cherish forever! The venue is not what matters. It's the band.
QuoteQuotecmon i mean is there any question that any of us here arent going to be right up in front for all 5 of these shows? Just get there early enough and we'll all be fine 8-)
I most likely will not. In my ripe old age of 27, I have learned that I often prefer to be in the peripheral, where I can easily access the bar and minimize the risk of that fat girl in doc martins kicking me in the head from behind when she thinks its a good idea to crowd surf during golden or the fratty douchebag starts a moshpit with all his brahs during Knot Comes Loose
::) Hate much?
Sorry, but the venue is anything but small. That place used to fill thousands of people every weekend when it was a club. Granted there are less spots to see the actual stage, but the old "dancefloor" was pretty big and there are two other levels that you'll be able to look down onto the stage from.
I don't care! It's going to be magical!
i always heard how bad T5 was and then I went there for the 1st time earlier this summer to see LCD Soundsystem and I didn't understand the hate at all. i had zero issues with sound which is the most important thing to me. imho T5 is 100 times the venue that the Electric Factory is.
Quoteif it was 5 nights playing live at best buy, a minor league ballpark or in an airplane hanger we would all still be there. It's a small venue and they are playing a once in a lifetime 5 night stand of every album. Just be ready to have a spectacular once-in-a-lifetime experience. Is there anything in October your entire life that you are looking forward to more?
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I'd imagine by ISM night we'll have every inch of that place figured out.
No worries here.
Quoteif it was 5 nights playing live at best buy, a minor league ballpark or in an airplane hanger we would all still be there. It's a small venue and they are playing a once in a lifetime 5 night stand of every album. Just be ready to have a spectacular once-in-a-lifetime experience. Is there anything in October that you are looking forward to more?
This is something all of us going to all 5 will remember and cherish forever! The venue is not what matters. It's the band.
Um....YES!
QuoteI'd love to here some more input on the venue from folks who have gone before....especially to sold out shows there. Certainly not trying to bring negativity into the shows, I'm fired up and cannot wait! But after reading through several pages of reviews on yelp, gotta say I'm a bit nervous. It's gonna be off the hook no matter what. They could do this in empty warehouse and I'd be there.
Any locals have any insight on the best way to rock the venue?
1. Arrive a little early. Its worth 1-2 hours to stand in line with some like-minded Jacketeers to get a nice spot with good sight lines. If you're not really into the "against the stage" scene... check out the area behind the sound/light board on the 2nd level.
2. Don't worry. The sound is fine. I saw Dr Dog there and expected the worst, was quite impressed. The reviews are stupid.
3. Its MMJ.... of course its going to be great!
QuoteI have heard it is about 3000.
That sounds about right...
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It doesn't look that bad. I read reviews on this place the other night and it was about 50/50 on the venue. I really don't care. I'll try to get their early and get as close as possible. It looks like only one side sits back more than the other. I'm just excited to see them play all these albums in a smaller place.
QuoteQuoteI have heard it is about 3000.
That sounds about right...
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That pic really makes me wish this was at the Roseland, as I had first hoped when I heard about 5 shows in 5 nights. About the same size ticket wise, but Roseland is more spread out. A lot more room left to right,than T5's front to back setup.
I'm sure it'll still be epic, and we'll love every second, but if you want to be close to the stage, it's going to mean lining up early each night and cut in to our pre-show fun. ;)
3,000 is the listed capacity but they def squeeze more than that in.
it's not as bad as people are making it out to be. the bar and bathroom setup is much better than roseland.
the worst part is that the vip on second level takes up a ton of space and is almost always empty.
Quote3,000 is the listed capacity but they def squeeze more than that in.
it's not as bad as people are making it out to be. the bar and bathroom setup is much better than roseland.
the worst part is that the vip on second level takes up a ton of space and is almost always empty.
I'm not trying to be a d*ck, but bar and bathroom setup aren't as important to me as sightlines, sound, and comfort level when I'm judging a venue.
While the bathroom setup at Roseland is a drag, I didn't find any problems with the bar. I could still see and hear fine.
QuoteI'd imagine by ISM night we'll have every inch of that place figured out.
No worries here.
LOL. That is what I was thinking. By the ISM night we will all have found our spots. Wish I could bring a flag in and stake my claim for all 5 evenings. Maybe just some duck tape on the floor with my name on it. ;D
I am not worried at all. It is gonna be an epic run and all the MMJ fans I know are real cool. I have never been to Terminal 5 but I'm sure we will all make the best of it. I plan to have a few beers before the show but not during. Don't want to miss a thing!
This is the part concert anticipation I hate most -- the phase where I start to wonder about things out of my control, and resort to inane amounts of preparation to ensure my time is perfect. I'm surprised I haven't had nightmares about being caught in a stopped subway and missing the first side of At Dawn.
But this thread has enabled me to curb that attitude, and for that I am thankful. Five nights of MMJ (six if you count the Ramble) cannot go wrong-- ever. Can't wait!
^I have fears of flight delays. I don't get into JFK until 5:30 monday eve, then have to get to brooklyn to stash my stuff then up to the venue. I'm gonna be pressed for time.
QuoteThis is the part concert anticipation I hate most -- the phase where I start to wonder about things out of my control, and resort to inane amounts of preparation to ensure my time is perfect. I'm surprised I haven't had nightmares about being caught in a stopped subway and missing the first side of At Dawn.
But this thread has enabled me to curb that attitude, and for that I am thankful. Five nights of MMJ (six if you count the Ramble) cannot go wrong-- ever. Can't wait!
First side of At Dawn? LOL. You have the record? Cool. I grew up with tapes and records so I understand. My older brothers even had A-tracks.
You got tics for the Ramble too! I am working on it.
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Wish I could bring a flag in and stake my claim for all 5 evenings. Maybe just some duck tape on the floor with my name on it. ;D
This cracked me up.
Places, everyone! ;D
Quick question... anybody know if they will be playing the straight album beginning to end in the order that is on the record or will they be mixing it up? I'd definately be bummed out if they closed Tennessee Fire with Untitled... not that I wouldn't like to hear it but War Begun would be amazing to close... plus thats also my favorite song. I know nobody is certain, but I'm only going to the Monday show so I won't have any setlists to browse... If anyone has any ideas as to how the setlists are going to be set up that'd be great. Thanks
QuoteQuick question... anybody know if they will be playing the straight album beginning to end in the order that is on the record or will they be mixing it up? I'd definately be bummed out if they closed Tennessee Fire with Untitled... not that I wouldn't like to hear it but War Begun would be amazing to close... plus thats also my favorite song. I know nobody is certain, but I'm only going to the Monday show so I won't have any setlists to browse... If anyone has any ideas as to how the setlists are going to be set up that'd be great. Thanks
I actually think theyre going to play the songs out of order (although Id still suspect At Dawn to be first), with covers and EP songs intermingled. Popular opinion here seems to be that theyll play them in order though.
Someone linked an interview awhile back (I think it was with Tom?) that said they were going to play the songs in album order.
Perhaps someone more ambitious than I will dig up the link ;D
My friends are shaking their heads at me when I tell them that I would rather be lining up outside the venue nice and early to get a good spot rather than seeing the sites of New York. My response is simply that you need to get your priorities right. I'm not flying half way round the world to look at buildings and museums!! Although I will find time to go to the top of the Empire State Building. Surely there wouldnt be anything else to do in NY that could compare to being as close as possible to MMJ belting out Masterplan? ;)
QuoteMy friends are shaking their heads at me when I tell them that I would rather be lining up outside the venue nice and early to get a good spot rather than seeing the sites of New York. My response is simply that you need to get your priorities right. I'm not flying half way round the world to look at buildings and museums!! Although I will find time to go to the top of the Empire State Building. Surely there wouldnt be anything else to do in NY that could compare to being as close as possible to MMJ belting out Masterplan? ;)
I once waited for 4 hours on a Detroit street for a show. We will be their early for them. The earlier you get there the better your spot.
QuoteQuoteMy friends are shaking their heads at me when I tell them that I would rather be lining up outside the venue nice and early to get a good spot rather than seeing the sites of New York. My response is simply that you need to get your priorities right. I'm not flying half way round the world to look at buildings and museums!! Although I will find time to go to the top of the Empire State Building. Surely there wouldnt be anything else to do in NY that could compare to being as close as possible to MMJ belting out Masterplan? ;)
I once waited for 4 hours on a Detroit street for a show. We will be their early for them. The earlier you get there the better your spot.
Indeed... there will be plenty of time for sightseeing. Do your chums feel strongly about
any band?? Even if you don't care for a particular band... I think music fans can just understand that kinda thing, or in my lala land they do... Early bird gits teh werm!
Pretty much every time I tell someone - family or friends - that I'm traveling somewhere the inevitable question is "Which band are seeing this time?" Its more or less a running joke now. Who needs tourist attractions when there's a favorite band in town? Mrs Ralph has her own music obsessions so understands the pull of 'having to be there', and pretty much said go for it when I floated the idea of this pilgrimage.
Anyways, this is way off topic....
Anyways, about the venue. Do they allow backpacks in there? If so can you check them easy and fast at their coat check?
question for the NYC'rs. I don't get into JFK until 5:30 on Monday. I need to get to my friends place in Brooklyn to drop of my bag, then will head straight over to the venue. How long is this going to take? I'm a bit stressed on the timing, it's going to be rush hour.
Quotequestion for the NYC'rs. I don't get into JFK until 5:30 on Monday. I need to get to my friends place in Brooklyn to drop of my bag, then will head straight over to the venue. How long is this going to take? I'm a bit stressed on the timing, it's going to be rush hour.
brooklyn's huge, depends where in brooklyn your friends place is...
it should take no longer than an hour
try not to check a bag to save time, just head straight to the Air Train to the subway
ps-rush hour is good, it means more trains, don't be afraid to throw yourself on a crowded train, srsly
study the subway map before you get here cuz you'll need to jump back on from brooklyn, it can be fast if you know what you're doing
thanks, I'm definitely not checking a bag, and I'll scope out the train options I need and it rock it as fast as I can.
She is 9th St. between Wythe and Berry in Brooklyn, not too far from McCarren park.
Quote I'm a bit stressed on the timing, it's going to be rush hour.
At least it's TFF night, so I'm betting it will be pretty empty.
I'd love to see tickets sold by night. We know the place holds about 4k, and nights 3-5 are sold out. I wonder if night 1 is REALLY low (just wild speculation, no proof)
sounds like a dream show for me, too bad I can't make it.
Quotequestion for the NYC'rs. I don't get into JFK until 5:30 on Monday. I need to get to my friends place in Brooklyn to drop of my bag, then will head straight over to the venue. How long is this going to take? I'm a bit stressed on the timing, it's going to be rush hour.
question for the NYC'rs in regards to my post above. Just found a friend of mine will be moving into a new place in Harlem on 103rd and Park, opposite side of central park than T5 and a bit higher as well, would that save me a ton of time to drop my stuff off there rather than in Brooklyn after I get into JFK? Or...she also said I could probably stash my stuff at her office, 57th St. and 8th Ave. Or would it really not save me all that much time, since JFK is way the fark out there? Wish I was flying into LGA.
QuoteQuotequestion for the NYC'rs. I don't get into JFK until 5:30 on Monday. I need to get to my friends place in Brooklyn to drop of my bag, then will head straight over to the venue. How long is this going to take? I'm a bit stressed on the timing, it's going to be rush hour.
question for the NYC'rs in regards to my post above. Just found a friend of mine will be moving into a new place in Harlem on 103rd and Park, opposite side of central park than T5 and a bit higher as well, would that save me a ton of time to drop my stuff off there rather than in Brooklyn after I get into JFK? Or...she also said I could probably stash my stuff at her office, 57th St. and 8th Ave. Or would it really not save me all that much time, since JFK is way the fark out there? Wish I was flying into LGA.
your friend in brooklyn is in wiliamsburg so you'd take the L @ Bedford all the way to 8th avenue and transfer to the Uptown A (express) train .. and get off at Columbus Circle (and then walk or cab). i'd say you'll be at your friends house by 6:30 and to the venue by 7:30/8pm
if you can stash @ your friends office that'd make things super easy as long as you can still get into the offices post-show :) ... but traffic could be a pain once you get in the city ... slowing you down and thus not really making it that much faster than making the drop in BK. subway can easily be faster than a cab sometimes
thanks for the input. she says she can get into her office 24/7, and also says I can take the airtrain/subway from JFK to very close to her office, so traffic wouldn't be an issue. I think this is my new plan. Her office is very close to the meet up bar, but I imagine peeps would have left the bar by the time I get to the area.
oh yeah that's a great plan and you don't even have to mess with a cab/traffic (http://www.thejamgirlz.com/phorums/images/smiles/023.gif)
also a nifty website to get an idea on travel times for anyone using the subway hopstop (//www.hopstop.com) (they also have an iPhone app) .. it'll also take any train construction / re-routes into account and tell you the best way to go. i just plugged in JFK to 57th & 8th and it quoted 1 hour and 8 minutes. not too shabby!
I've seen the Mars Volta and the Arctic Monkeys at T5, both sold out shows... and they were both GREAT!! Love the place and almost dooked in my pants when I found out MMJ was doing this!!
Can't wait for next week!!!!!!
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Don't forget the Yankee Game will make traveling fun too! I'm going to try to get in before 3:00. Hope all goes well for everybody traveling. Don't forget the opening act may save you in this case!
QuoteQuotenot trying to put a damper on anything, because this is a pretty amazing thing they're doing, but the terminal 5 is absolutely the worst venue i've ever been to. the sound is god fucking awful. i walked from the floor to the back bar for a beer and the sound literally disappears. so take that into consideration, although i'm strongly thinking about going.
hopefully the people who attend these concerts realize the TFF/At Dawn nights will be chill as hell. it will be good practice for the n00bs to learn when to shut the fuck up.
I'm almost more excited they're playing the album and "songs from the era they were made" or whatever. who knows what kind of bust outs we're going to get over these five days? I wonder if they're going for their entire catalog... one can only hope.
[size=18]..... LOLOLOLOLOL You've never been to a concert in Manhattan, have you?[/size]
went to scope out the venue last night and decided to catch the Citizen Cope show. Such a great musician and awesome show!
Despite what has been said, I was very impressed with the acoustics overall.
The club has a very inviting atmosphere, and it's not hot like someone mentioned. the bathrooms are conveniently located for all you old folks with small blatters, and the staff is very friendly.
FYI the coat room is on the second floor balcony, stage left, and also the rooftop terrace can be accessed from that side on the second floor as well. There are multiple bars, and honestly not a bad place to stand in the house. I was standing on the 2nd floor for most of the night and was quite pleased.
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Thanks for posting that! Makes this old geezer feel a bit better. :)
[size=18]... I concur ... Regardless of the fact that T5 is a hangar ... It does have convenient, clean and well-staffed bathrooms .....
But let me reiterate ... DO NOT "PARTY" within 3 blocks of the venue ... Lots of undercover Po-Po ...[/size]
Quote[size=18]well-staffed bathrooms .....[/size]
so there are people in there watching you pee?
QuoteQuote[size=18]well-staffed bathrooms .....[/size]
so there are people in there watching you pee?
[size=18].... Yes ... And when you are finished they applaud ... Very classy .....[/size]