My Morning Jacket

We've all done them...LSD, Shrooms, cannabis...Even if you havent, you would have to be stupid not to know how common they are in the music world.  Bonnaroo is a great example of combining the.  With that being said, I've been doing alot thinking about the band.  Under the influence or not, MMJ's music is simply magical. Steam Engine, Golden, Dondante, Rollin' Back, and pretty much every one of their songs has that magical sound that makes your mind go free.  I was wondering if the guys have ever talked about psychedelics when they were writing new songs, playing at a show, etc.  

this is an awesome thread, man. I've been wondering the same thing too. I've done shrooms, I fuckin blaze almost every day, done E, but I've never done acid. Does anyone wanna send me some blotter acid through the mail? I'm serious!

but yeah, I think MMJ smokes a lot of weed, but I don't know further from that.

Nothing personal, guys, but this is a tired subject in art.

I'll agree that MMJ's music is "magical" at times, but it is so, so juvenile and lame to assume that all good art these days is obviously the product of habitual drug use, and not just god-given talent. Call me a nutty straight, but maybe My Morning Jacket is just collectively very gifted, and maybe there are a few musicians out there that don't need drugs as a crutch to compose colorful, creative material.

You guys aren't going to call me a narc, now, are you?

Not at all man....and I totally agree with you that there are bands out there with god-given talent to just play amazing music. Im not implying that the boys are what they are today because of drugs, I'm just asking if they have ever commented on experiences or influences on their music from psychedelics.  Look at the Beatles man, its obvious they were pretty drugged up when they released Sgt. Pepper, and now it is considered the greatest album of all time. Thats not saying that you have to be drugged up to make a high-selling album, because thats not at all true.  All I'm saying is that some drugs bring out another side of music listening...you think about stuff in a song that you might not recognize if you were just listening to it in your car to work or something.

Quote All I'm saying is that some drugs bring out another side of music listening...you think about stuff in a song that you might not recognize if you were just listening to it in your car to work or something.

yes, and it also brings out stuff you never recognized on the back of your hand...

Bliss also occurs drug free, it's just harder to get there; the drug free bliss I have encountered has made much more of an impression on me than the drug induced psychedalia I experienced as a younger man. If you can tune in on something and make it last, using your own mind, that, for me, is the magic.

Not knocking drugs, just speaking my truth. The bottom line is that whatever happens, happens.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWpOas4qr7E

;D

then there's this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-m5rx7Pi9I

QuoteI've done shrooms, I fuckin blaze almost every day, done E, but I've never done acid.

Thanks very much for sharing, we're all very proud of you  :)

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QuoteI've done shrooms, I fuckin blaze almost every day, done E, but I've never done acid.

Thanks very much for sharing, we're all very proud of you  :)

I assume you'll be the one mailing him some blotter acid?   ;D

I think Jim has probably already contacted him & got some stuff sent.
Or Carl maybe...

Quotethen there's this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-m5rx7Pi9I

That just made me laugh!  Thank you! :)

I didn't know weed was classified as a Psychedelic???

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QuoteI've done shrooms, I fuckin blaze almost every day, done E, but I've never done acid.

Thanks very much for sharing, we're all very proud of you  :)

I assume you'll be the one mailing him some blotter acid?   ;D

prettypetty.

QuoteI didn't know weed was classified as a Psychedelic???

It's a mild hallucinogen.  So, it can't really be classified as a depressant or a hallucinogen.  It falls somewhere in between.

Non prescribed drugs are illegal and should not be taken under any circumstances.

QuoteNon prescribed drugs are illegal and should not be done under any circumstances.

nark!

All I do is smoke weed. Thats all I do...everyday of my life. I don't give a FUCK. 8-)

QuoteAll I do is smoke weed. Thats all I do...everyday of my life. I don't give a FUCK. 8-)

me, too, ghosts.  right now i'm at work and i'm really fucked on acid.  i'm up to about 27 hits - just to get me through the morning.  

that's normal, right?

i think it's fair to say that drugs can add a different twist to an experience - like a concert or a record or, you know, kind of anything - family dinners...
but i also really like to experience things straight.  i like mild drugs here and there, but i find, like booze, if i'm doing it all too much, i caint get nothing done.  it feels okay to not get anything done, but then i'm just wastin' time.

as to bands taking drugs, i don't know, how can anybody know a thing like that?  and who caaaaaaaaares?  sometimes it feels like people will relate more to artists if they know they're taking drugs.  i'm not sure why that would be.

HOLY CRAP I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT THE FACT THAT A NEW RECORD IS COMING OUT NEXT YEAR!!!  wooooooo!

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as to bands taking drugs, i don't know, how can anybody know a thing like that?  and who caaaaaaaaares?  sometimes it feels like people will relate more to artists if they know they're taking drugs.  i'm not sure why that would be.

weren't the Spin Doctors on drugs?

(http://www.ear.fm/Encyclopedia%20S/spin_doctors.jpg)

Im pretty sure the boys play sober...theres a big difference between a Jim James preformance and Trey Ant preformance

But none the less i enjoy music and drugs just as much as the next 22 year old college kid, but My Morning Jackets music surpases all of that - it's amazing on drugs and its amazing off drugs.  Wish i could say the same for a Sound Tribe Sector 9 show...for that, drugs are needed.  :o

But I WAS that dude at NYE losing my mind...and ever sense that night I have been a changed man.  Was it the drugs or the music?  I would like to say the music. the drughs simply got me laid later.  

i think i remember an interview in spin a couple of years ago where they said a lot of psychedelics were used in the making of z

by "psychedelics", do you mean

QuoteWe've all done them...

NO.  Preferring to experience my trip on the 3rd stone from the sun in 1st person.

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QuoteWe've all done them...

NO.  Preferring to experience my trip on the 3rd stone from the sun in 1st person.

Are you fucked up man?

QuoteCall me a nutty straight

You're a nutty straight.  ;)

The old ones are still the old ones.

they huff paint. does anyone want to send me some model glue through the mail?

Quotei think i remember an interview in spin a couple of years ago where they said a lot of psychedelics were used in the making of z

bullshit

not so death cab was on the cover

they do talk about acid... i think.. in the song "downtown".  

"tell the acid man we dont wanna"

but im not positive.

Quotethey do talk about acid... i think.. in the song "downtown".  

"tell the acid man we dont wanna"

A single verse in an outtake song doesn't prove shit, and certainly doesn't mean that they "talk about acid"...

Quotethey do talk about acid... i think.. in the song "downtown".  

"tell the acid man we dont wanna"

but im not positive.

i always thought it was ice cream man.. that's what i like to think.

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Quotethey do talk about acid... i think.. in the song "downtown".  

"tell the acid man we dont wanna"

but im not positive.

i always thought it was ice cream man.. that's what i like to think.

I like to think it was about acid bc acid is fun.  But ice cream is delicous so either is cool w/ me.

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Quotethey do talk about acid... i think.. in the song "downtown".  

"tell the acid man we dont wanna"

A single verse in an outtake song doesn't prove shit, and certainly doesn't mean that they "talk about acid"...

That single verse proves more "shit" than you've proven so suck a donkey dick..  I never said i was positive.  Angry ewoks have pinky dicks.  That would explain your anger..

Sounds like you're insecure about your manhood.

Or lack of. Whatever.

I saw an Ewok naked once  ;),   and he was sportin a baby arm.

ummm, and back to the thread topic...

Aldous Huxley has a pretty clear (and informed) opinion regarding the use of psychedelics and art....I found it quite interesting.  It is a tool, some it benefits, some it destroys.  

"Huxley on Drugs and Creativity
Aldous Huxley interviewed for The Paris Review (1960), reprinted in Moksha: Aldous Huxley's Classic Writings on Psychedelics and the Visionary Experience, edited by Michael Horowitz and Cynthia Palmer (Park Street Press, 1999)

 
Interviewers: Do you see any relation between the creative process and the use of such drugs as lysergic acid [diethylamide]?
Huxley: I don't think there is any generalization one can make on this. Experience has shown that there's an enormous variation in the way people respond to lysergic acid. Some people probably could get direct aesthetic inspiration for painting or poetry out of it. Others I don't think could. For most people it's an extremely significant experience, and I suppose in an indirect way it could help the creative process. But I don't think one can sit down and say, "I want to write a magnificent poem, and so I'm going to take lysergic acid [diethylamide]." I don't think it's by any means certain that you would get the result you wanted -- you might get almost any result.

Interviewers: Would the drug give more help to the lyric poet than the novelist?

Huxley: Well, the poet would certainly get an extraordinary view of life which he wouldn't have had in any other way, and this might help him a great deal. But you see (and this is the most significant thing about the experience), during the experience you're really not interested in doing anything practical -- even writing lyric poetry. If you were having a love affair with a woman, would you be interested in writing about it? Of course not. And during the experience you're not particularly in words, because the experience transcends words and is quite inexpressible in terms of words. So the whole notion of conceptualizing what is happening seems very silly. After the event, it seems to me quite possible that it might be of great assistance: people would see the universe around them in a very different way and would be inspired, possibly, to write about it.

Interviewers: But is there much carry-over from the experience?

Huxley: Well, there's always a complete memory of the experience. You remember something extraordinary having happened. And to some extent you can relive the experience, particularly the transformation of the outside world. You get hints of this, you see the world in this transfigured way now and then -- not to the same pitch of intensity, but something of the kind. It does help you to look at the world in a new way. And you come to understand very clearly the way that certain specially gifted people have seen the world. You are actually introduced into the kind of world that Van Gogh lived in, or the kind of world that Blake lived in. You begin to have a direct experience of this kind of world while you're under the drug, and afterwards you can remember and to some slight extent recapture this kind of world, which certain privileged people have moved in and out of, as Blake obviously did all the time.

Interviewers: But the artist's talents won't be any different from what they were before he took the drug?

Huxley: I don't see why they should be different. Some experiments have been made to see what painters can do under the influence of the drug, but most of the examples I have seen are very uninteresting. You could never hope to reproduce to the full extent the quite incredible intensity of color that you get under the influence of the drug. Most of the things I have seen are just rather tiresome bits of expressionism, which correspond hardly at all, I would think, to the actual experience. Maybe an immensely gifted artist -- someone like Odilon Redon (who probably saw the world like this all the time anyhow) -- maybe such a man could profit by the lysergic acid [diethylamide] experience, could use his visions as models, could reproduce on canvas the external world as it is transfigured by the drug.

Interviewers: Here this afternoon, as in your book, The Doors of Perception, you've been talking chiefly about the visual experience under the drug, and about painting. Is there any similar gain in psychological insight?

Huxley: Yes, I think there is. While one is under the drug one has penetrating insights into the people around one, and also into one's own life. Many people get tremendous recalls of buried material. A process which may take six years of psychoanalysis happens in an hour -- and considerably cheaper! And the experience can be very liberating and widening in other ways. It shows that the world one habitually lives in is merely a creation of this conventional, closely conditioned being which one is, and that there are quite other kinds of worlds outside. It's a very salutary thing to realize that the rather dull universe in which most of us spend most of our time is not the only universe there is. I think it's healthy that people should have this experience. • "

Interesting article. I find it interesting that people can remember trips like that as vividly as they do. How much more real is it than a regular dream?  Not having ever used psychadelics at my tender age, my opinion on this may be worthless on this, however. But let's not forget how these things can screw you up (look at Syd Barrett).

On a side note, my new avatar seems pretty infused with psychadelics... ;)

QuoteInteresting article. I find it interesting that people can remember trips like that as vividly as they do. How much more real is it than a regular dream?  Not having ever used psychadelics at my tender age, my opinion on this may be worthless on this, however. But let's not forget how these things can screw you up (look at Syd Barrett).

On a side note, my new avatar seems pretty infused with psychadelics... ;)

its more vivid, way more intense, and much clearer than any dream. i remember very little about the dreams i have. personally, i prefer to smoke a bowl before painting. i've never painted while tripping, i have done some sketches. the experience stays with you and does influence the way you think, paint, make music, etc....i think a great example is the beatles, who have admitted on camera to using drugs. when i was younger, i always had artistic talent. i could look at something and draw it, but sometimes struggled to come up with something original. if you have the talent it can have a big impact. if you're not a creative person and you've never done psychedelics you shouldn't have any opinion regarding it.  it can have a negative effect if you do it too much (syd), or if your schizophrenic or something. with that being said, i haven't tripped in a few years and have no desire to either.


here's something i did on shrooms, i believe:
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[/quote] it can have a negative effect if you do it too much (syd), or if your schizophrenic or something. with that being said, i haven't tripped in a few years and have no desire to either.[/quote]

100%..by no means is it safe for everyone.  I've have known a few "psychedelic casualities" in my life.  one must always be prepared for the consequences of our actions.  and I know for a fact that a few of those casualities did not exactly know what they were signing up for...everyone else around them turned out okay... :-/

I am not acting as an advocate for the masses to ingest psychedelics, however, to ignore their impact on our society (music, culture, art, politics, etc) would be short-sighted.

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Quotethey do talk about acid... i think.. in the song "downtown".  

"tell the acid man we dont wanna"

A single verse in an outtake song doesn't prove shit, and certainly doesn't mean that they "talk about acid"...

That single verse proves more "shit" than you've proven so suck a donkey dick..  I never said i was positive.  Angry ewoks have pinky dicks.  That would explain your anger..

I think it's funny when some newbie comes on here and talks shit on a respected member of this board. BUt yeah, suck a donkey dick Brad.

QuoteI think it's funny when some newbie comes on here and talks shit on a respected member of this board. BUt yeah, suck a donkey dick Brad.

At first I thought you were referring to me as a respected member... now that's some fighting words.

;D

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Quotethey do talk about acid... i think.. in the song "downtown".  

"tell the acid man we dont wanna"

but im not positive.

i always thought it was ice cream man.. that's what i like to think.

ADAMMM!!
yea

well whatever they do, they just need to keep it

(http://www.crankycritic.com/archive07/posters/shrooms.jpg)

http://www.apple.com/trailers/magnolia/shrooms/trailer/

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QuoteI think it's funny when some newbie comes on here and talks shit on a respected member of this board. BUt yeah, suck a donkey dick Brad.

At first I thought you were referring to me as a respected member... now that's some fighting words.

;D

So to become a "respected" member i have to jack off on this web site all day like you two losers?  

I have a pretty substantial history with this stuff, though I haven't touched anything psychedelic for years. As a younger man, I approached my experiences quite reverentially, and really thought that I was improving myself by "expanding my consciousness" with these drugs. While I don't regret having done them, looking back now it's hard to say that those experiences truly benefitted me in any substantial way. The trips did enact a different way of thinking, but I don't think that I was necessarily a better person overall because of them, and certainly a more self indulgent one. I don't claim to be an artist, so I'm not the best person to comment on their influence on the creative process.

I will say this though, there's nothing like experiencing an intense, LSD induced hallucination. That's pretty cool.

i dont reccomend going to six flags whilst tripping talk about intense

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QuoteI think it's funny when some newbie comes on here and talks shit on a respected member of this board. BUt yeah, suck a donkey dick Brad.

At first I thought you were referring to me as a respected member... now that's some fighting words.

;D

So to become a "respected" member i have to jack off on this web site all day like you two losers?  

No, I've tried that, already, and I'm still not a "respected" member...

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QuoteI think it's funny when some newbie comes on here and talks shit on a respected member of this board. BUt yeah, suck a donkey dick Brad.

At first I thought you were referring to me as a respected member... now that's some fighting words.

;D

So to become a "respected" member i have to jack off on this web site all day like you two losers?  

Geez, why all the hate?  Brad's a nice guy...I'll vouch for him.

And no one around here has any respect for anyone at anytime about anything at all.  Therefore, there are no respected members.  Only ones with more time on their hands than others.

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QuoteI think it's funny when some newbie comes on here and talks shit on a respected member of this board. BUt yeah, suck a donkey dick Brad.

At first I thought you were referring to me as a respected member... now that's some fighting words.

;D

So to become a "respected" member i have to jack off on this web site all day like you two losers?  

I'm jacking off right now thinking about you and how cool you must be.  To the Nth degree!!!!!!!!!  Wheeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!

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QuoteI think it's funny when some newbie comes on here and talks shit on a respected member of this board. BUt yeah, suck a donkey dick Brad.

At first I thought you were referring to me as a respected member... now that's some fighting words.

;D

So to become a "respected" member i have to jack off on this web site all day like you two losers?  

I'm jacking off right now thinking about you and how cool you must be.  To the Nth degree!!!!!!!!!  Wheeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!

I just laughed so hard Vanilla Coke came out of my nose. I intend to hold you responsible. I will see you at Judge Judy.

;D

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I'm jacking off right now thinking about you and how cool you must be.  To the Nth degree!!!!!!!!!  Wheeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!

What sort of a loser says, "Wheeeeeeeee!!!!!!!" while they jack off?


jeeez, how uncool is that?   :-/

I don't know if this thread is beyond repair ...




Edit: Apparently,this thread was beyond repair.  I'll save my post for another thread ...

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I'm jacking off right now thinking about you and how cool you must be.  To the Nth degree!!!!!!!!!  Wheeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!

What sort of a loser says, "Wheeeeeeeee!!!!!!!" while they jack off?


jeeez, how uncool is that?   :-/

I only say Wheeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!! when I'm jacking off if I'm tripping.  What do you say, "Tom Sawyerrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Mean, mean guyyyyyyy!!!!"???

Ha, Ha  ;D