This one goes out to all of the cig smokers out there.
What's your favorite cig? I'm partial to marlboro 27s. Anyone else?
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And on that note, I'm going for a cigarette break.
tried 'em in High School, hated 'em, never touched 'em again
That's good. I wish I could say the same.
I only go for the cigars and cigarillos, and occasionally a pipe ;)
i used to smoke a bit. Pretty dumb when you're sixteen. So I realized it was stupid and quit. Now I only take an occasional drag to try and blow a smoke ring and remember why I quit in the first place. Now I would only smoke a cigar or pipe. I'd take a pipe anyday. My step-dad smoked one tonight, and the house smells lovely.
a pinch of Skoal is my weakness
always a pinch better :) Have you tried apple flavor yet?
yeah I didn't like it as much as I thought I would :-/
When I'm in the States, I smoke Camel Lights.
When I'm in Europe, I smoke purple Silk Cuts.
In Canada I smoke DuMaurier Extra Lights.
I quit smoking for three years, and started again about a year ago. I know I'm going to quit again, and I'm just enjoying this while it lasts.
I'm a Benson & Hedges type. Stupid habit, but....
I only smoke when I'm really depressed and then I'm not really concerned about what I'm smoking...
I hear ya mmj fanatic, mint skoal long cut. Actually saw an article recently where many doctor's are advocating smokeless use instead of smoking for long time smokers. Either way though...you're still playing the lottery.
I smoked like Bogart for four years and then met a health teacher who I married and haven't touched one in almost 4 years. I miss it a lot, but not when I smell parents who come into my school who smoke, remember how much they cost, and ultimately, how terrible they are for you and how much better I feel.
Way back in the 80's, I smoked Marlboro Menthol Light 100's like they were candy. Why, I still don't know. After moving in with Susan, I quit at her request...
In the past 5 years or so, I've developed a taste for clove cigs and smoke them like they are candy, but only at shows or other alcohol soaked venues. I can guarantee y'all Louisville heads have smelt me at shows, stinking up the place and getting dirty looks from people.
But normally, no cigs at all. (well, unless they're "funny" and put together by my buddy ;D)
Yes,thats how we usually find John at a crowded Headliners show,is to follow the clove smell.But I do enjoy the smell of the "funny" cigs we share.
;D muwahahaahaha!
Quoteyeah I didn't like it as much as I thought I would :-/
What??? I loved Apple. I'll take it over Mint any day...i think it's just because I puked once after I swallowed some mint juice :P so i think I've had dark memories of it ever since.
What're you guys talking about? (Not John and Tony - heh, I KNOW what you're talking about.) What's this apple and mint stuff?
Sounds creeeps....
I enjoy a clove cigarette here and there - or at least I did when I wasn't smoking. I remember having to smoke these cherry/mint horrors for a show once - they didn't want me smoking real cigarettes. But because I'd quit, I got addicted to them. So gross. Way grosser than real cigarettes.
The other day I tried a vanilla cigarro from a Cuban friend. That was good. In fact, that's the only kind of flavoured tabacco, aside from regular tobacco-flavoured tobacco, that I have liked.
Oh. Once I tried some apple-flavoury thing in a hookah. It was okay. Oooooooh, is that what you guys are talking about?
QuoteWhat're you guys talking about? (Not John and Tony - heh, I KNOW what you're talking about.) What's this apple and mint stuff?
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Skoal, of course! It's dip, smokeless tobacco, whatever you wanna call it. Does that answer your question? If not, i can go into more, gross detail.:)
Damn, that quote modification didn't work...oops. :-[
QuoteSkoal, of course! It's dip, smokeless tobacco, whatever you wanna call it. Does that answer your question? If not, i can go into more, gross detail.:)
I have no idea what skoal is. Gross details please!
If you insist...Ok, it comes in a small can, about the size of a hockey puck, and basically, it is ground up tobacco with a certain flavoring (i.e. mint, apple). Anyway, you get yourself a pinch and stick it between your gum and teeth, usually to one side, but some people stick it in the middle. From there, the fiberglass in the dip cuts your gum, making a tiny series of holes that allow the nicotine from the dip to get in. After that, you chill, spit every once in a while, and let your gums swell up. And that's a crash course in the subject of dip. I hope you found it informative.
QuoteIf you insist...Ok, it comes in a small can, about the size of a hockey puck, and basically, it is ground up tobacco with a certain flavoring (i.e. mint, apple). Anyway, you get yourself a pinch and stick it between your gum and teeth, usually to one side, but some people stick it in the middle. From there, the fiberglass in the dip cuts your gum, making a tiny series of holes that allow the nicotine from the dip to get in. After that, you chill, spit every once in a while, and let your gums swell up. And that's a crash course in the subject of dip. I hope you found it informative.
You have got to be shitting me. WHAT? You cut up your gums with fibreglass and tobacco and flavouring? And they swell up? Is that legal? That sounds worse than smoking.
I'm sure it's one of those things that everyone else is used to, But what about the fibreglass? Does it go into your body? That's not good for you!
Well, your gums only swell up if you dip a whole hell of a lot. I've cut down alot because of that...actually I think it's been 3 weeks since I've taken a dip. But yeah, it's a bizarre form of tobacco. I don't think the fiberglass actually goes into your system, there's too little of it. But it cuts your gum ( you can't actually see the cut though.)
QuoteWell, your gums only swell up if you dip a whole hell of a lot. I've cut down alot because of that...actually I think it's been 3 weeks since I've taken a dip. But yeah, it's a bizarre form of tobacco. I don't think the fiberglass actually goes into your system, there's too little of it. But it cuts your gum ( you can't actually see the cut though.)
Okay. Well be careful. :-/
where did you hear that there's fiberglass in it?! I think there's only tobacco in there :-/
No. he's right. There's fiberglass in some cigs... Kools an some others. Wonderful.. isn't it!
You have to ask yourself - "When.. will I stop smoking?"
because it's not "should" I stop smoking.
The fact is...everything looks great on a young person's body; smoking, tattoos, even morgue pictures look good. Now, on the other hand.. Seeing a 65 year old lady smoke or 70 year old guy on oxygen is anything but cool, interesting,or attractive.
Here are the facts - (1) When you smoke you're falling prey to the single greatest corporate rip-off/manipulation/marketing scheme in history. You're playing in to the "mans" hands - that includes the Republicans and George Bush. (2) You're killing yourself and the people around you (3) In 500 years they'll look back at smoking as an unbelievable tragedy.. like we would Nazi Germany. (4) Cancer is one of the worst ways to die. It's slow. It's painfull. Treatmant sucks and it's expensive.
Be original.. be strong..be progressive..protect you and your loved ones... QUIT SMOKING and support the anti smoking lobby.
No, i was talking about dip, not cigarettes. But there are some cigs that have fiberglass in them.
yo Dwight,
I dig where you are coming from. Smoking cartons upon cartons each week and being addicted sucks donkey ass. What I'm speaking of is the occasional puff here and there, kinda like binge drinking. No one paints me an alcoholic if I get loaded every once and a while, but they sure would if I came to work drunk every day (for example).
I can see both sides. My dad is going to end up in his grave with a Kool Filter King squarely planted in his mouth. And that's his choice, as it's his life. So long as he's not hurting anyone except himself, I can't really judge him. (not that I haven't, or at least tried to sway him with photos and whatnot...but I digress). After 2 tours of Vietnam, 35 years in a steel mill, 3 kids (me included!) and 50+ years of smoking, he's probably going to die as a result of smoking. And that's sad, of course.
Not sure where I'm going with this...
jc--I hear somewhere that the clove numbers are supposedly worse than regular cigs...
yup, I've heard that too. but just like burgers, if you don't eat them everyday, you can enjoy them every once and a while...moderation is the key (as with everything EXCEPT MMJ, of course)
I chewed one time way back when in my math class and thought I was going to blow chow. Never did it again. Way back when I smoked some cloves and I heard they make your lungs bleed. Every know and then when I am drunk I will take a puff a cigarette. Cigars are where it's at. Nothing better than sitting a poker table in Vegas and smoking a cigar.
D.
Woah. Thanks dwight. I appreciate your efforts.
I would like to point out, however, that smoking tobacco has been a ritual for many, many years - loooong before cigarettes came in packages that keep asshole tobacco companies very rich and powerful.
There are alternatives - American Spirit cigarettes are organic, and I believe, made from tobacco processed on rotating crop farms that treat their employees well. I don't think they have any preservatives, either.
And in Toronto you can't smoke inside. Anywhere. So nobody's killing anybody else here.
And all that said, you are absolutely right, and I am very aware of the fact that I started smoking because I thought it was cool, and I very guiltily still kind of do even though I KNOW how terrible it is. I will work on that.
damn. damn damn damn damn damn.
very thoughtful post, Meg...
thanks Meg
this is by no means meant to be a jab at your comments - they're appreciated!
however, many things went on for centuries that we no longer do now - blood letting, surgery without sterilization and hand washing
They're always be drugs and people who do them but there's no greater addiction on the planet that kills more people that's been glorified by the media and society
I wouldn't say it's been glorified. I haven't really seen a pro-smoking ad, well, ever. Except by the companies themselves...ok i stand corrected. But society is much more non-smoking oriented today than ever.
Quotethanks Meg
this is by no means meant to be a jab at your comments - they're appreciated!
however, many things went on for centuries that we no longer do now - blood letting, surgery without sterilization and hand washing
They're always be drugs and people who do them but there's no greater addiction on the planet that kills more people that's been glorified by the media and society
Only because it's interesting, and again, NOT to in any way shape or form take away from the fact that smoking is bad for you.
But they ARE still doing a form of blood-letting: leeches. They're using leeches in post-operatic care. For example, if you're got gangrene, they'll stick some leeches on the infected area. My surgeon uncle told me this. Apparently it's really great, because they suck out all the poisonous substances as well as get the blood flowing, and help reduce swelling. Not entirely the same as the weird little blood-letting devices. Those are weird. We have one, and it's been in the family for a long time. You press a button and these sharp little razors spring out. Not a good toy for children.
And cultures, especially American and Canadian native cultures, do still use tobacco. In fact, just last week I went to the artistic director of the native theatre down the hall for some advice, and she gave me some advice and a little ritual to do, and the ritual involved releasing tobacco on the ground near a tree.
But again, and qute seriously, I only mention these things because they're interesting. I am in no way trying to justify my gross habit. :)
You know something, I heard cloves were really bad for you, too. But i mean...they're all cigarettes in the end.
now what I heard was they're worse for you than regular cigs. I think Tommy's got a decent alternative--he rolls his own
cloves liquefy your lungs. I wouldn't get too addicted to em, or you'll die a lot earlier than any Camels'll do ya.
cloves are just as bad as Camels, or American Spirits, or weed, or whatever you smoke (even if it's banana peels or dogshit!).
I'm not glorifying or justifying anything either, just pointing out that in moderation, and in real moderation, I enjoy a few cloves. I've had long talks with Dwight and know he's a true brother in arms (man, if it weren't for moving, baby, 16 yr old, and work, we'd be hanging out RIGHT NOW!) so he's not doing anything other than expressing his point of view. Love him like a brother.
Anyhoo, smoking is bad, and of course he's right.
JC-
In the immortal words of Ali G,
"Respect"
Quoteeven if it's banana peels
ah ha. My brother and I tried drying out banana peels and smoking them. We didn't have any rolling papers, so we used... wait for it... post-it notes. ha.
And, here's something interesting. On the posters on our big garbage receptacles, now, is a sign that reads something like:
You don't smoke, why put up with it? Ask someone who's smoking near you to butt out.And I'm pretty sure they'll make a fine for that, just because they like to make a fine for anything here, so soon, smoking outside will no longer be an option.
Wow. I'll bet they stop it on the patios this summer... Wow. It can't be Canada if you can't drink a beer and have a smoke outside. :(
I guess I'll move to Newfoundland where they've tried to ban smoking inside for EVER, and nobody listens.
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ah ha. My brother and I tried drying out banana peels and smoking them. We didn't have any rolling papers, so we used... wait for it... post-it notes. ha.
And, here's something interesting. On the posters on our big garbage receptacles, now, is a sign that reads something like:
You don't smoke, why put up with it? Ask someone who's smoking near you to butt out.
And I'm pretty sure they'll make a fine for that, just because they like to make a fine for anything here, so soon, smoking outside will no longer be an option.
Wow. I'll bet they stop it on the patios this summer... Wow. It can't be Canada if you can't drink a beer and have a smoke outside. :(
I guess I'll move to Newfoundland where they've tried to ban smoking inside for EVER, and nobody listens.
Or fuck it, maybe it's that time...
QuoteJC-
In the immortal words of Ali G,
"Respect"
Hey man, I feel the love. Say, we should have you over for dinner at the new place. Let me set up the table and whatnot. I owe you like 10000 beers. :)
Meg,
Montreal is as smoking friendly as it comes these days. Nobody smoked inside, but man EVERYONE smoked outside. I know it's a bit colder there, but shit is it a cool city.
Anyhoo, not to be forward, but what is a pretty girl like you smoking for anyways? :)
If I am not mistaken they have "pot" bars in Vancouver, Canada where you can light a doobie and eat a sandwich in public....pretty much anything goes on in that city. Great place to visit.
D.
QuoteIf I am not mistaken they have "pot" bars in Vancouver, Canada where you can light a doobie and eat a sandwich in public....pretty much anything goes on in that city. æGreat place to visit.
D.
Whuuuuuut? ÊI don't remember that. ÊI lived there. ÊNo, I don't remember that. ÊI mean, yeah, there are places where people smoke, and nobody does anything about it, but just to be clear, it's not a government-condoned situation. ÊIt is true, though, that I have been noticing more and more, that people are smoking in public (I'm reeefering [ha] to weed, not tobacco here) and not worrying about it. ÊAfter work the other night, 3am, there was a share circle, and a cop car drove by. ÊNobody got worried, nobody cared. ÊIt was actually kind of wicked.
QuoteMeg,
Montreal is as smoking friendly as it comes these days. æNobody smoked inside, but man EVERYONE smoked outside. æI know it's a bit colder there, but shit is it a cool city.
æ
Anyhoo, not to be forward, but what is a pretty girl like you smoking for anyways? æ
::)
That's because they're more European than we are. Ê(We're VERY uptight in Toronto. ÊMontreal's a little more laid back and arty, and for some reason that makes people smoke? ÊNot sure what I mean by that, but I understand it in my head.) ÊIt isn't that much colder in PQ is it? Ê
Oh, I started smoking again because of a really dumb-ass breakup, and I needed something to do. Ê;)
But actually, and very seriously, all this talk about it has started me on the "I'm gonna quit again soon" track. ÊWhich is awesome, so good work dwight. ÊIt's actually not hard for me to quit - once I get my head around it, it's not a big problem. ÊI just really like smoking - but the physical addiction never gets me too bad. Ê(I quit for a year once, and then three the last time around). ÊThe only crap part is that I can't sleep for a week because I have this tremendous amount of weird energy. ÊBut I can handle that.
Soooooooooooon. :)
Effin' mac computer keeps making those weird symbols. sorry about that. it's a new computer and i don't know how to work it yet.
(maybe the symbols are trying to tell us something...)
yeah....a touch weird but no big deal. I have a friend going up to Vancouver next week who likes to enjoy the ganja. I am sure if there is one there, he will find it
D.
Yeah, and see if he can't remember the name! ;)
Dear John-
I would be honored to check out the new digs. Any time!
D
sweet! let me get settled and baby nestled and we'll do some dinner, my favorite thing in the world is to eat with friends!
EC,
Ah, I see...well, just wondering. If yer gonna smoke, well, I recommend the whatnot over ANY cig any day. ;)
Montreal is indeed more European than anywhere else on the continent, IMHO. It's like Paris everywhere, everyone is all dressed in black, they're all pole thin and smoke like chimmneys. Some of the best food I've ever had-certainly the best maple syrup!
QuoteEffin' mac computer keeps making those weird symbols. sorry about that. it's a new computer and i don't know how to work it yet.
(maybe the symbols are trying to tell us something...)
They make it hard to read but rather beautiful I think.
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They make it hard to read but rather beautiful I think.
:)