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Title: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: Chills on Sep 25, 2005, 03:15 AM
Dylan will be featured on pbs's American Masters series. part 1 is sept 26th and part 2 is the 27th.

BBC2 is showing the same thing in the UK on Monday/Tuesday 26/27 September.  "Martin Scorsese's documentary on Bob Dylan's early years becomes the first simultaneous broadcast between the globe's foremost public broadcasters".

Yay. Must remember to check this out.

http://www.iptv.org/program.cfm?ID=206178
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: MMJ_fanatic on Sep 25, 2005, 08:04 PM
That's right!  I plan to watch the PBS presentation as a preview to buying the dvd. Should be awesome!!!
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: CC on Sep 26, 2005, 04:34 PM
I just finished watching the 1st part. hot damn, that was awesome! it's so much more than just a dylan docu. packed with folk legends from the 60s and bob mentioned fred neil! thanks bob! [smiley=beatnik.gif]
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: aMillionDreams on Sep 26, 2005, 04:43 PM
QuoteI just finished watching the 1st part. hot damn, that was awesome! it's so much more than just a dylan docu. packed with folk legends from the 60s and bob mentioned fred neil! thanks bob! [smiley=beatnik.gif]

Have you read the Chronicles Vol. 1?  He talks about Fred Neil a great deal.  He's the guy who wrote 'Everybody's Talkin'', right?

I'm waiting for the bob dylan website to restock and I'm going to order the soundtrack, the dvd, a scrapbook, and a extra CD is some package deal.  Meantime, I'm dying to hear the soundtrack and see the movie.  I don't know how long I'll hold out.
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: CC on Sep 26, 2005, 04:51 PM
Quote

Have you read the Chronicles Vol. 1?  He talks about Fred Neil a great deal.  He's the guy who wrote 'Everybody's Talkin'', right?

no, haven't read that yet but gonna have to.
fred's indeed responsible for 'everybody's talkin'
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: whothrewthecake on Sep 26, 2005, 10:13 PM
my DVD is on order, so i just watched the first half tonight. PACKED with info. can't wait for tomorrow. what does everyone think so far?
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: dragonboy on Sep 27, 2005, 02:31 AM
Didn't know the DVD was out to buy yet!
Cool  :)
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: marktwain on Sep 27, 2005, 03:35 AM
1st part was excellent! I love all the performance footage - of Bob and everybody else. It really makes me wish I had been around to see Bob in the 60's.

I'm looking forward to tonight.

And about Chronicles - Sean Penn reads the Book on Tape, which I bet is pretty cool.
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Sep 27, 2005, 08:59 AM
if for no other reason than to watch Bob interviews, this is awesome.
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: Jellyfish on Sep 27, 2005, 09:58 AM
I can't believe how humble Bob has become...the 60 minutes interview and now these....years ago all he would give you was smart ass answers to questions.
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: Chills on Sep 27, 2005, 02:03 PM
It's on. Part two!! Right now!!!
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: fitzcarraldo on Sep 27, 2005, 02:15 PM
Yeah, enjoyed it very much. So much going on in it. Forgot who the Irish guy was, every time they cut to him he has another beer.  :) And the comments from the Manchester audience was fun to see. Part two tonight, bring it. Turn it up!!!
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: whothrewthecake on Sep 27, 2005, 02:45 PM
i really loved when bob said "those women brought out the poet in me" and then stared suggestively into the camera. i peed myself.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
so good.
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: Jellyfish on Sep 27, 2005, 03:09 PM
Quotei really loved when bob said "those women brought out the poet in me" and then stared suggestively into the camera. i peed myself.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
so good.
That was a classic quote.
 ;)
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: CC on Sep 27, 2005, 03:48 PM
just watched the 2nd part.
goooooood stuff!

Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: marktwain on Sep 27, 2005, 04:11 PM
QuoteForgot who the Irish guy was, every time they cut to him he has another beer.
And those were some massive beers, too! [smiley=drunk.gif]

That was Liam Clancy, of the Clancy Bros. and Tommy Makem.  They did an amazing version of "when the ship comes in" on the Bob Dylan 30th anniversary tribute, many years ago.
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: JacketGal on Sep 27, 2005, 07:18 PM
Loved it and all the insight! Dylan seems humble, I agree. And to think he used to play with the media all the time, nothing he said was a straight answer, and now he's talking about how his high school girlfriends brought out the 'poet' in him!!
Nice work by Scorcese, that man can direct a music documentary.
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: whothrewthecake on Sep 27, 2005, 10:31 PM
part 2 exceeded my expectations. i loved the DEEP insight into bob and joan's relationship, straight from their mouths. words that have never been said, at least as far as i know. amazing concert footage again, and i can't help but love a young richard manuel!  ;D

ending it with the judas clip was priceless. very very awesome.
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: marktwain on Sep 28, 2005, 04:46 AM
Anybody think it was strange that there were no interviews with the Band (only that Mickey dude that replaced Levon)? ???

Agreed that part 2 was incredible, too.  
I wonder how much extra live footage the DVD has...
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: CC on Sep 28, 2005, 04:54 AM

The extra features are made up of seven bonus 'live' songs from a variety of sources. We get 'Blowing In The Wind' from a TV show in 1963 which has Dylan looking a bit like a wax model; 'Girl From the North Country' from Canadian TV, on a log-cabin set and sounding spare and beautiful; 'Man of Constant Sorrow' from a 1964 TV appearance; 'Mr Tambourine Man' from Newport 1964 which looks pristine and sounds gorgeous; 'Love Minus Zero/No Limit' from London 1965, an outtake from Don't Look Back unless I'm mistaken in which Dylan looks very relaxed off-stage; 'Like a Rolling Stone' from Newcastle 1966 with Dylan coming across as quite aggressive and stringing the song out to nearly 9 minutes; and 'One Too Many Mornings' from Liverpool 1966 in a fantastic electrical version. All of these are well worth seeing.

There are also four performances by 'guests'. Liam Clancy sings 'Girl of the North Country' after rambling on engagingly for a bit. Maria Muldaur sings an outtake from the 'Infidels' album, 'Lord Protect My Child'. Mavis Staples storms through 'A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall' and Joan Baez sings her hit version of 'Love Is Just A Four Letter Word'.

Finally, we get a very bizarre unused promo clip for the marvellous 'Positively 4th Street', one of Dylan's most biliously nasty songs, and some all-too brief footage of him developing a beautiful song called 'I Can't Leave Her Behind' in a hotel room in Glasgow.


http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=58642
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: marktwain on Sep 28, 2005, 04:57 AM
wow, thanks!
I'm sold.  Still, I'd love to have more.
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: Billy_Pilgrim on Sep 28, 2005, 05:47 AM
I thought it was mindblowing. Those shots of Dylan playing with the media in all those press conferences was brilliant.

I was watching it with my mum, and she kept going on about hearing Highway 61, Blonde on Blonde, Freewheelin' and the such when they came out, sitting in candle-lit rooms at university. Damn, how much I would love to have been around in those days. Dylan, Beatles, Rolling Stones bringing out albums every few months. Amazing.

It was superb to see Dylan up-close, talking so candidly and coherantly about his life.
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: Chills on Sep 28, 2005, 06:36 AM
Hey, Bob Dylan, I wrote you a song
Today's your birthday if I'm not wrong
If I'm not mistaken, you're fifty today
How are you doing, Bob, what do ya say?

Well, it must have been about '62
I heard you on record and you were brand new
And some had some doubts about the way you sang
But the truth came through and loudly it rang

Yeah you were hipper than Mitch Miller
And Johnny Mathis put together

So I got some boots, a harmonica rack
A D21 and I was on the right track
But I didn't start writing until '68
It was too damn daunting, you were too great

But I won a whole lot of Bob Dylan imitation contests, though

Yeah, times were a-changin'
You brought it all home
Blonde on Blonde
Like a Rolling Stone
The real world was crazy, you were deranged
And when you went electric, Bob, everything changed

Shock to the system

Out of commission at a motorcycle wreck
Holed up at Woodstock with a broken neck
Labels were signin' up guys with guitars
Out to make millions, lookin' for stars

Well, I figured it was time to make my move--Songs from the Westchester County Delta Country

Yeah, I got a deal and so did John Prine
Steve Forbert and Springsteen all in a line
They were lookin' for you, signin' up others
We were New Bob Dylans
Your dumb-ass kid brothers

Yeah, we still get together every week at Bruce's house--he's got quite a spread I'll tell ya--it's a twelve-step program

Yeah, but we were just us
And of course, you were you
And John Wesley Hardin still sounded new
Nashville Skyline was even newer
And Blood on the Tracks and the ringin' got truer

Let's see, there was another one in there--oh, I got it, I got it--Self Portrait. It was an interesting effort...

Yeah, I had to stop listenin', the times were too tough
Me bein' the new me was hard enough
You keep right on changin' like you always do
And what's best is the old stuff still all sounds new

Yeah, today's your birthday, have a great one, Bob
Bein' the new you's one hell of a job
My kid cranked up her boombox, it almost groaned
And I heard you screaming from her room
"Everybody must get stoned"

Thanks a lot, Bob

   Loudon Wainwright
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: whothrewthecake on Sep 28, 2005, 10:22 AM
i also loved the little clip of johnny cash and bob singing at the piano. i just watched with my jaw hanging to the floor. i didn't want it to end.  [smiley=beehive.gif]
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: EC on Sep 28, 2005, 11:55 AM
Quotei also loved the little clip of johnny cash and bob singing at the piano. i just watched with my jaw hanging to the floor. i didn't want it to end.  [smiley=beehive.gif]

I must see this.

I have the Nashville sessions with Johnny and Bob.  There is some seriously awesome stuff in there.

Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Sep 28, 2005, 12:01 PM
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I must see this.

I have the Nashville sessions with Johnny and Bob.  There is some seriously awesome stuff in there.


man, that has to be killer...I'm jealous!  ;)
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: antoniostrohs on Sep 28, 2005, 12:17 PM
Can't wait to see it.I have it recorded on my DVR.So I'll be watching it this weekend.
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: Drunkre on Sep 29, 2005, 10:15 AM
I watched both nights.  I agree with most posts.  The conversations with Baez were illuminating, and I really liked the way Scorsese brought out the constant change in Dylan.  I loved the way he juxtaposed Dylan singing "All I really wanna do/Is baby be friends with you" with Dylan's moving away from the folk scene; it was like I was hearing the song anew.  Loved the British fan's quote, "We came to see Dylan.  Not a pop, not a pop group."  To which another fan responds, "Not many pop groups that sound like that."  Amen, the congregation may be seated.  Live performances in England and Newport were like a shadow of punk's defiant middle finger.
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: marktwain on Sep 29, 2005, 10:39 AM
QuoteI loved the way he juxtaposed Dylan singing "All I really wanna do/Is baby be friends with you" with Dylan's moving away from the folk scene; it was like I was hearing the song anew.

Yeah, I had the same reaction to several songs.  I got into Dylan in the 90's, so I was hearing the songs way out of context.  Scorsese did a beautiful job of placing them back into context, and now I can appreciate them in a whole new way.
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: Jellyfish on Sep 29, 2005, 01:11 PM
"Would you like to suck my glasses"?  ;D
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: fitzcarraldo on Sep 29, 2005, 01:17 PM
Aww that's right, Liam Clancy. thanks Tundra!

Part 2 was awesome! That psychedelic sequence was spot on. :o
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: aMillionDreams on Oct 02, 2005, 06:56 AM
I finally got a chance to watch this and I was blown away.  I didn't get that much new information from it but it was cool to see the story laid out and retold with such accuracy and emotion.  Scorcese obviously did a great job.  This is a documentary that needed to be made.  The soundtrack is also unbelievable.  Lucky for us, Dylan has decided to leave his legacy and how impressive it is.
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: MMJ_fanatic on Oct 02, 2005, 11:23 AM
It was enjoyable enough for me to order and I plan to buy an additional one for my brother's Christmas present!
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: primushead on Oct 02, 2005, 03:24 PM
So yesterday, my friend told me that he bought the DVD for this.  So we got super baked and watched the entire thing.  I loved it!  The Dvd also had 7 full length performances which were very cool...all around it was a fantastic Documentary.
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: BIGVICLBI on Oct 02, 2005, 06:23 PM
My dad and my grandfather were BIG into Tommy Makem and the Clancy Brothers, and of course now I am as well. I didn't know he was still alive, now I'm gonna hope he comes to America. Seriously, they rule if you are Irish or whatever.(Yes I'm a mick!)Definately a good ass documentary.
Title: Re: No Direction Home. Dylan documentary
Post by: marktwain on Oct 03, 2005, 03:26 PM
I got to see Tommy Makem at the IrishFest here in Louisville several years back.  It was really nice, though I didn't know most of the songs.

I think many people there had no idea who he was.