NCAA Football 2007-2008

[Angry Ewok]

I was watching Ohio St. Saturday as their team walked out arm-in-arm, in rows, swaying, all their uniforms clean, colorful and matching, and they were basically dancing.

Auburn holds hands walking out onto the field, too.

:D :-*

[The DARK]

SC vs Clemson at #10??? What madness is this?

This rivalry is second to none, ladies and gentlemen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDzl1dJthYo&feature=related

[TEO]

rivals.com top rivalry games:

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=742086

Those lesser ranked teams are cute and all with their "history" and "good ol' times" but I prefer the here and now of the KU vs. MU monster rivalry.   Try and top the history behind this leading up to Saturday Night PRIME FUCKING TIME, BITCHES! ;)

http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB119552143273498638-lMyQjAxMDE3OTI1MDUyMjAxWj.html

MIZZOU GONNA' BEAT KANSAS BABY!!!

[aMD]

rivals.com top rivalry games:

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=742086

bullshit.

What was wrong with it?  I mean, I don't have a stake in either the Alabama/Auburn or Ohio St./Michigan rivalries, which I assume is why the bullshit was called (you wanted OSU Mich. at #1, right?)

um...YEAH!  The Ohio State Michigan game is the biggest and best rivalry in all of sports!  Hands down!  I must have missed the HBO documentary on the "Iron Bowl".  Oh yeah, they didn't make one because it's not as big as the OSU-UM rivalry.  

I guess it's mostly a regional thing.  I had never heard anyone say there was a bigger rivalry than OSU-MU until I moved to Kentucky with a bunch of SEC fans.  Three Gs probably would tell you that Duke-UNC is the biggest rivalry in sports, someone in the panhandle might tell you it's Texas-OK.  But anyone with any objectivity will tell you that OSU-MU is the biggest and the best. It'd be nearly impossible for someone to argue that there's a rivalry bigger than UM-OSU, and, no, ESPN viewer polls from the week before the Iron Bowl don't count.  :P

I actually did some research on the iron bowl before posting and found that the two rivalries are similiar in MANY ways.  Both rivalries began in 1897, both "pairs"of teams from the rivalries claim around 18 National Championships between them while the actual number is probably around 15 (you know how National Championships in college football go), the iron bowl is more even as far as wins-losses but the number of championships between OSU and Michigan are more even.  This is an impossible stat to find but I would think that more National Championship campaigns have been ruined in the OSU-MU game.  OSU went into the Michigan game ready to win the National Championship only to be beat 3 times in the 1990s alone.  Michigan had the same thing to them 3 times in a five year period against Woody Hayes' Buckeyes.

However, it's the game behind the numbers that make OSU-UM bigger.  Ohio is the birthplace of football.  It is also a fertile grounds for high school talent.  UM always tries to steal Ohio's best players to beat them which makes the rivalry even more bitter.  Ohio and Michigan, the states, have had a land dispute over a strip of land that dates back to when Michigan became independent of Ohio in the 1830s.  To this day, Ohio and Michigan hate each other.  Michigan fans look down their noses at OSU fans as being redneck while OSU fans feel that UM fans are self-important, stuck-up, assholes.  Obviously no one in the Iron Bowl has any grounds to call the other a redneck since they all live in Alabama (I know I may have reopened that flood gate but I don't care)

I could go on and on, but I'll finish by simply reiterating that the Ohio State-Michigan game is the biggest, best, and most-storied rivalry in all of sports.

[primushead]

I know many have probably seen this (as it's almost 7 years old) but it's ESPN's top 10 list of the greatest rivalries of all time.

http://espn.go.com/endofcentury/s/other/bestrivalries.html

10. Giants vs. Dodgers
A rivalry spawned in New York transferred to the West Coast in 1958. It reached its most famous moment in 1951, when Bobby Thomson's home run beat the Dodgers to win the pennant. When the clubs fought for National League pennants in the '60s, they were also constantly fighting on the field, including the infamous episode when Juan Marichal attacked Johnny Roseboro with a bat. Giants fans loved it when Joe Morgan's homer knocked the Dodgers out on the final day in 1982; Dodgers fans loved it when their team knocked out the Giants in 1993.


9. Redskins vs. Cowboys
The intense loyalty of these teams' fans helped this rivalry hit a peak in the '70s and early '80s. Redskins fans hated Tom Landry, the shotgun offense and the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. Cowboys fans hated George Allen, Joe Theismann and that ridiculous logo. When they played on Thanksgiving, there were more than a few turkey legs thrown at the TV in disgust.



8. Auburn vs. Alabama
The "Iron Bowl" is the quintessential intrastate football rivalry. In fact, the series was discontinued from 1908 to 1948 because of a long-standing dispute over a referee and per diem pay for players. When the schools finally agreed to play again, the game had to be held in Birmingham, a neutral site with tickets split equally. Auburn finally hosted Alabama for the first time in 1989 and set a stadium attendance record. The most famous meeting came in 1972. Both teams entered with one loss. 'Bama led 16-0 entering the fourth quarter, but Auburn returned two blocked punts for touchdowns and won 17-16. "Punt, 'Bama, Punt," became a famous slogan.


7. Red Sox vs. Yankees
Some say this is merely a media creation, and it's somewhat true, since the two teams have rarely battled head-to-head for the pennant. But, remember this: the Red Sox were the American League's dominant franchise until selling Babe Ruth to the Yankees. Red Sox fans have yet to fully recover. The rivalry has seen the DiMaggio vs. Williams debate, Bucky F****** Dent's home run and Roger Clemens' return to Fenway.


6. Arnold Palmer vs. Jack Nicklaus
Palmer was the fan favorite, the chain-smoking golfer built like a linebacker. Nicklaus was chubby but more talented, the young kid knocking the champ off his pedestal. The rivalry was respectful, with Nicklaus envying Palmer's popularity and Palmer envying Nicklaus' skill. As televised golf became popular in the early '60s, it was this matchup that brought golf to the masses.


5. Maple Leafs vs. Canadiens
When the NHL consisted of six teams, that meant everybody played each other all the time. And no game was as intense as this one. It pitted French Canada vs. English Canada, making it a symbol of hockey's and Canada's history. They've met five times in the Stanley Cup Finals, with Montreal winning in 1959 and '60 and Toronto winning in '45, '51 and '67. Last year, Toronto was moved back into the Eastern Conference to rebuild the rivalry. Visiting fans often drown out the locals in each arena, so you never can tell who's the home team, and even when either team is terrible, players get revved up for regular-season games.


4. Wilt Chamberlain vs. Bill Russell
There were only nine NBA teams for most of the 1960s, meaning Chamberlain and Russell squared off nine to 12 times per season. And since defenses weren't as sophisticated as now, when these two battled it was often without weakside help or double-teaming. Of course, Russell's Celtics always won, which helped build Russell's reputation and depicted Chamberlain as a selfish player who didn't make his teammates better. For example, in 1961-62, Wilt averaged 50.4 points per game, but the Celtics beat the Philadelphia Warriors eight of 12 games. The next season, Wilt averaged 44.8 points per game, but the Celtics beat Chamberlain's San Francisco Warriors eight out of nine. Who was more valuable? It's what made this a classic rivalry.


3. North Carolina vs. Duke
Dean Smith. Coach K. Jordan. Hill. Tobacco Road. Cameron Crazies. The fans are passionate, the teams successful, the games almost always down to the buzzer. Two of the four winningest teams in history, going at it twice a year (and once more in the ACC tournament if we're lucky). This is what college hoops is all about.


2. Muhammad Ali vs. Joe Frazier
They fought three times with two of the brawls considered among the greatest fights in history. Many say their first fight at Madison Square Garden in 1971 is the most signficant boxing match in history. When they met for the third time in 1975 -- "The Thrilla in Manila" -- Ali verbally assaulted Frazier to such a degree in the months leading up to the fight that Frazier remains psychologically damaged to this day.


1. Michigan vs. Ohio State
When Ohio Stadium opened in 1922, Michigan spoiled the party with a 22-0 victory. The rivalry was heated in the early days as both have been long-time college football powers. But it got even hotter in 1969, when Bo Schembechler took over as Michigan's coach and upset Woody Hayes' No. 1-ranked, undefeated Buckeyes. Four times in the next six years, both teams were ranked in the top five when they met. In 1970 and 1973, both were undefeated (they tied 10-10 in '73). From 1970 through 1975, Michigan entered without a loss every year. The Wolverines won just once. Ohio State was 9-0-1 in 1993, 11-0 in 1995 and 10-0 in 1996. The Buckeyes lost each time. That is rivalry.  

[aMD]

oops, I meant 4 out of 5 years. sorry.  Good thing I have the professionals over at ESPN to back me up.  Thanks GGG!

[BH]

OK, Cards-Cubs has got to be in the top ten.  Not sure what comes out, but it just has to be in there.  Damn East-West coast bias.  Dodgers Giants?  Bullshit.  Dodgers fans don't even show up until the third inning.

[BH]

MIZZOU GONNA' BEAT KANSAS BABY!!!

What's up man!  Is Jake going to the game?  Or just a Columbia watering hole?  Either way, I am jealous!   I couldn't go becuase I have Thanksgiving at the in-laws that day.  We are talking about maybe doing a road trip to whatever bowl game they go to.   We shall see.....

[mjkoehler]

MIZZOU GONNA' BEAT KANSAS BABY!!!

What's up man!  Is Jake going to the game?  Or just a Columbia watering hole?  Either way, I am jealous!   I couldn't go becuase I have Thanksgiving at the in-laws that day.  We are talking about maybe doing a road trip to whatever bowl game they go to.   We shall see.....

GO KU!!!!

[EAZYE]

LSU outclasses Arkansas in every single category

not hardly. Again, the facts:

Arkansas leads the SEC in rushing (297 a game compared to LSU at 220).
Arkansas also leads LSU in avg. KO return yards ( 22 vs 18)
Arkansas leads LSU in punt returns by a yard
Arkansas' red zone defense is 5th in SEC comapred to LSU's last
Arkansas has converted more 3rd downs than LSU
Arkansas is ranked 1 in defending 3rd down; LSU is 3rd
Arkansas has given up 10 sacks and LSU has given up 24
LSU has been penalized 30 more times than Arkansas
LSU and Arkansas are virtually tied for lead in total offense in SEC (455.3 vs 454.7)
Arkansas is behind LSU in Pass Defense Efficiency by .5 points

not really outclassed in every single category at all

doesn't look like they were outclassed at all let alone in every single category ;)

[primushead]

DID ANYONE SEE THE LSU ARKANSAS GAME JUST NOW?!?!?!?

3 OT????

50-48!!!!

WOW.

Looks like your buckeyes might get in the bcs game after all aMD.

[The DARK]

DID ANYONE SEE THE LSU ARKANSAS GAME JUST NOW?!?!?!?

3 OT????

50-48!!!!

WOW.

Looks like your buckeyes might get in the bcs game after all aMD.

I thought Arkansas could pull it off...but wow. Kansas the #1 team in the nation??? West Virginia #2??? Missouri #3???  :-?

[mjkoehler]

Ahhhhh. YES! Happy Days in Lincoln! Callahan is officially gone and this holy hell shitty 4 year experiment is over. Now the big question is will it be Bo Pallini or Turner Gill. Either would be excellent choices but my money is on Turner Gill.

[megisnotreal]

auburn is on the next hand.
:'(

[The DARK]

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It's a sad, sad day here in the good state of South Carolina.

[BH]

The pieces are all coming together.   (I am so fucking smashed.)    ;D  I want to drive the 90 miles to Columbia right now.  


You just don't realize how crazy this is.   For decades we have been at the bottom of the Big 12 and now we are on the verge of the Big 12 Championship not to mention possibly more........

At the very minimum, you guys gotta love the fact that it might be West Virgina and Missouri for the Championship!!!!  Are you kidding me?

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[The DARK]

So it appears to be down to three. If OU beats Missouri, it's OSU vs. West Virginia. If Missouri wins, it's Missouri vs. West Virginia.

I have been a defender of the bowls for years, but I hereby demand a playoff system. Now.

[TEO]

M I Z - Z O U ! ! !

[aMD]

yep.  that "miracle scenario" that would send OSU to the national championship is looking more like a coin flip.  Although I think OSU deserves to be in over WVU even if they do beat Pitt and Mizzou wins out but anyway... I've never rooted for Uconn and Oklahoma in my life, but LET'S GO SOONERS!!!!

(This is at least my third "I told you so" post in this thread.  No, it doesn't get old.  At least not for me)  ;D ;D ;D

[Bam_Bam]

 I think the best game would be Missouri-West Virginia. Ohio St. had loads of problems against Juice Williams and Illinois. Think about what Pat White and Steve Slaton would do. TWO 1000 yard rushers on one team. Pat White has a 70 percent completion percentage as well  so he can throw pretty well...and Rich Rodriquez would definitly stand up to Jim Tressel. Man typing this made me really want that game as the NC game...either way it's gonna be awesome.