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Peace Now!

Started by Mr. White, Oct 25, 2012, 11:56 PM

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Mr. White

Kentuckians For The Commonwealth (KFTC) Member Since 2011

bluesky

george says it all so honestly and simply

Jaimoe

Lest we forget.

Today is Remembrance Day. On the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month, most British Commonwealth countries stop to honour all the brave soldiers who fought and died during WWI, II and all other wars including the Korean and Afghanistan. We wear a poppy, adopted as a symbol of our support inspired by a 1915 poem written by Canadian physician, Lt. Colonel John McCrae, who fought in WWI's Second Battle of Ypres in Belgium. McCrae's inspiration for the poem came when he noted how poppies grew around the soldiers' graves:

McCrae fought in the second battle of Ypres in the Flanders region of Belgium where the German army launched one of the first chemical attacks in the history of war. They attacked the Canadian position with chlorine gas on April 22, 1915, but were unable to break through the Canadian line which held for over two weeks. In a letter written to his mother, McCrae described the battle as a "nightmare": "For seventeen days and seventeen nights none of us have had our clothes off, nor our boots even, except occasionally. In all that time while I was awake, gunfire and rifle fire never ceased for sixty seconds ..... And behind it all was the constant background of the sights of the dead, the wounded, the maimed, and a terrible anxiety lest the line should give way." Alexis Helmer, a close friend, was killed during the battle on May 2. McCrae performed the burial service himself, at which time he noted how poppies quickly grew around the graves of those who died at Ypres. The next day, he composed the poem while sitting in the back of an ambulance.

In Flanders Fields, Lt. Colonel John McCrae

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place: and in the sky
The larks still bravely singing fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the dead: Short days ago,
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved: and now we lie
In Flanders fields!

Take up our quarrel with the foe
To you, from failing hands, we throw
The torch: be yours to hold it high
If ye break faith with us who die,
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields


Composed at the battlefront on May 3, 1915
during the second battle of Ypres, Belgium


Canada lost nearly 64,000 in WWI, including John McCrae (roughly1% of my country's population) and almost 47,000 in WWII (population of 11 million).

Interesting fact for all you geeks out there:

Royal Canadian Artillery vet James Doohan, "Scotty" from Star Trek, was wounded on the beach in Normandy during D-Day. He took six rounds, four bullets into his legs, one in the chest and one in his hand. When you recall all those Star Trek episodes, notice that you never see Scotty's hand. He always hid it, a la Radar O'Reilly. His middle finger was blown off. 

Jaimoe

Quote from: Mr. White on Feb 01, 2013, 12:16 AM


As long as we have North Korea and Iran (plus other countries run by lunatics) and the eternal struggle over perceived borders (see West Bank), we'll always have war, unfortunately. I'm with you though.

johnnYYac

Jim Merrill is my Aunt Judy's second husband, a Vietnam veteran, and he wrote this song, called "Peace".

"Peace" A Song By Jim Merrill
Close enough!

Mr. White

Today, November 11, 2021 is Veterans Day here in America.

I am a Persian Gulf War Veteran (Served on The USS Bunker Hill CG-52 during the entire run-up to the war and all during the war until the cease-fire. Then we returned to Yokosuka, Japan where my ship was forward deployed - home base for several years). My ship launched 27 Tomahawk Missiles that no doubt killed several innocent civilians at the beginning of the war. I have much stress in my mind and soul about this fact.

I am a Peace Monger now and have been for many, many, many years.

Here's one of my favorite quotes from WWII Veteran (bomber pilot) and historian Howard Zinn who killed lots of innocent civilians.

"We need to decide that we will not go to war, whatever reason is conjured up by the politicians or the media, because war in our time is always indiscriminate, a war against innocents, a war against children." - Howard Zinn

Wish a Veteran well today, and remember that many of us have mental scars that don't show like the physical ones so many returning Veterans have these days. Also, Work For Peace.

John
Kentuckians For The Commonwealth (KFTC) Member Since 2011

crooney

Well said, Mr. White.  Thank you for your service and being a pillar of this MMJ community.  Take care.

Mr. White

Quote from: johnnYYac on Sep 15, 2013, 08:22 PMJim Merrill is my Aunt Judy's second husband, a Vietnam veteran, and he wrote this song, called "Peace".

"Peace" A Song By Jim Merrill

Jim Merrill a Vietnam vet and a local musician performs his song titled "Peace"
Lyrics to the song are below
Peace By Jim Merrill

Da Nang, Nha Trang, Cam Ranh, Saigon,
Bien Hoa, Dong Hoa, Chu Lai, Khe Sanh
These names will remain in the hearts of many men,
For it was there we lost so many friends.
There spirits live on, now with you and me;
Those friends who gave their lives for a word called peace.

Perhaps one day we'll know the answers why,
maybe we've finally learned from those who have died,
that peace is the answer no matter where you go
and that war is not a solution, don't you know
that it's peace, peace..........

Let's hope our children never know a Vietnam, or an Iraq, or Afganhestan
Let's hope they'll live in peace thanks to those who have died
and maybe all together we can say that we've tried
for peace, peace..............
Kentuckians For The Commonwealth (KFTC) Member Since 2011

ranyart

Powerful song and thanks for sharing it John.  I love the lyrics - simple but so true.  I'm old enough to remember our Vietnam adventures including the nightly causality counts on the news and of course the images of any war are so surreal it's hard for me to completely understand how we get ourselves in these sorts of situations over and over again.

I can only imagine what it feels like to be on a boat as Tomahawks are unleashed.  I remember thinking during the Persian Gulf War that it kinda made sense and that we might actually be doing a good thing putting Mr. Hussein in his place but of course those tasks are more complicated than they might seem so here we are.  We're all - or almost all - guilty of taking the side of war in our country, and I thank you John for having us - all of us - in your heart as you served our country during trying times.  And of course your effort here on this forum and as a MMJ fan are also greatly appreciated.

:beer:  <3

ranyart

We can bomb the world into pieces
But we can't bomb it into peace


Power to the peaceful y'all!