MMJ Into Jesus? Says Who?

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#60
Apr 18, 2007, 08:45 AM
QuoteAnd they will believe it regardless of evidence that proofs them wrong, that is, afterall, the essence of Christianity

Well, it is a matter of what the individual believes.  The true "essence" of Christianity isn't right or wrong but a matter of personal belief-which is bedrocked in a little thing called faith.  Faith is believing in something regardless of evidence or proof or anything that might be contradictory to it.
Runnin' from somethin' that isn't there

marino13

#61
Apr 18, 2007, 10:24 AM
I'm going to leave the lyric interpretation alone.  However, anyone who thinks Jim doesn't have a belief in God/Jesus at some level has their head buried in the sand.  If he absolutely didn't believe, why would he be singing "Silent Night", "O Holy Night", "Lead Me Father", etc?  I don't blame him if he doesn't want to come right out and say it.  It's obvious from this thread that there are many fans that he would lose or have disappointed if he did so.   :(  

megisnotreal

#62
Apr 18, 2007, 12:11 PM
god said he didn't like this thread

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#63
Apr 18, 2007, 12:33 PM
Quotegod said he didn't like this thread


Hey, if there's a God I'm sure He'd love to know were talking about him.   ;D
Runnin' from somethin' that isn't there

GOD

#64
Apr 18, 2007, 01:00 PM
Quotegod said he didn't like this thread


I also don't approve of what you do in the shower with your pulsating shower head.
I SEE EVERYTHING.

dragonboy

#65
Apr 18, 2007, 01:03 PM
This thread is semi-complete shit/semi-hilarious  ;D
God will forgive them. He'll forgive them and allow them into Heaven.....I can't live with that.

megisnotreal

#66
Apr 18, 2007, 01:56 PM
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Quotegod said he didn't like this thread


I also don't approve of what you do in the shower with your pulsating shower head.
I SEE EVERYTHING.

look. god, you created me... and my right hand. so deal.

besides, tammy fay baker said you'd forget/forgive if i sent 500 bucks to the TBN. you gonna hold up to the end of the deal?

Angry Ewok

#67
Apr 18, 2007, 02:56 PM


I bet Tammy would love My Morning Jacket.

--- and that's 2 real 4 u.

TheBigChicken

#68
Apr 18, 2007, 04:02 PM
this is one truly sad and creepy thread :( :( :( :(....
the fruit bats love makin' made all the kids cry

sweatboard

#69
Apr 18, 2007, 04:07 PM
It was fine until Brad went and posted this.......



There's Still Time.........

Angry Ewok

#70
Apr 19, 2007, 07:39 AM


Forgive me?
--- and that's 2 real 4 u.

aMD

#71
Apr 19, 2007, 08:58 AM
QuoteI'm going to leave the lyric interpretation alone.  However, anyone who thinks Jim doesn't have a belief in God/Jesus at some level has their head buried in the sand.  If he absolutely didn't believe, why would he be singing "Silent Night", "O Holy Night", "Lead Me Father", etc?  I don't blame him if he doesn't want to come right out and say it.  It's obvious from this thread that there are many fans that he would lose or have disappointed if he did so.   :(  

I'm sorry, folks. I just can't not respond to this, although I'm sure it will be to no avail.  He obviously does have a belief a "God" or a force that Jim himself refers to in the video clip that you either refused to watch or are incapable of understanding and it doesn't turn me off.  "O Holy Night" and "Lead Me Father" are two of my favorite songs to sing and I'm not a Christian, so that's why he might sing them. Or it could be what he says in that video, but i've sufficiently beat that dead horse.  

And if you were referring to me, it wouldn't matter to me if Jim was saved and turned to all christian music like Bob Dylan, my hero, did.  I am a fan of Johnny Cash although I'm not a Christian and a fan of Cat Stevens even although I'm not a fundamentalist Islam and I'm a fan of Beck even though I'm not a scientologist. Go figure!

I'm sorry to be so harsh to Christians, I have a lot of respect and love for many Christians, but this is a lot like talking to a brick wall (I was going to say a kindergartner but that's giving some of you too much credit).

megisnotreal

#72
Apr 19, 2007, 09:14 AM
that's a bit harsh.


marino13

#73
Apr 19, 2007, 10:45 AM
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QuoteI'm going to leave the lyric interpretation alone.  However, anyone who thinks Jim doesn't have a belief in God/Jesus at some level has their head buried in the sand.  If he absolutely didn't believe, why would he be singing "Silent Night", "O Holy Night", "Lead Me Father", etc?  I don't blame him if he doesn't want to come right out and say it.  It's obvious from this thread that there are many fans that he would lose or have disappointed if he did so.   :(  



And if you were referring to me, it wouldn't matter to me if Jim was saved and turned to all christian music like Bob Dylan, my hero, did.  I am a fan of Johnny Cash although I'm not a Christian and a fan of Cat Stevens even although I'm not a fundamentalist Islam and I'm a fan of Beck even though I'm not a scientologist. Go figure!

I'm sorry to be so harsh to Christians, I have a lot of respect and love for many Christians, but this is a lot like talking to a brick wall (I was going to say a kindergartner but that's giving some of you too much credit).


I love it when people say they have respect and love for a person or a group of people, and then turn right around and rip them in the same sentence.  It reminds me of when someone says, "No offense, but you really aren't very smart", like the "no offense" part makes it all good.  You spent the previous paragraph proving to all of us how open minded you are with your musical tastes and then finished it off with your closed minded statement.  Fine, Christians rub you the wrong way, we get it.  Even my simple kindergarten mind can figure that out.

sweatboard

#74
Apr 19, 2007, 10:47 AM
Wow, I've never seen that picture of Jim in the studio.  That Bat Cave shirt must be his "studio shirt".  *in Roger Daultry voice* YOU ARE FORGIVEN, YOU ARE ALL FORGIVEN!!!!
There's Still Time.........

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#75
Apr 19, 2007, 10:56 AM
I think we can all agree that spirituality plays a significant role in My Morning Jacket's music.  I think Jim leaves that spirituality open for each individual to interpret for themselves and I think he does it on purpose.  He has gone out of his way on several occasions to make the point that he believes in excluding no one.  He has also made the point that the structured part of spirituality that we call "Religion" get's a bit messy.  I could see Jim singing a Christian song and turning around and playing a Jewish song right after that and it making complete sense.  I think the spirituality in the song is the same in any language (if you will ;)) so if Jim sings a song about God and then sings one about Buddha that's awesome because they are both on this forum and obviously both fans of My Morning Jacket.
There's Still Time.........

marino13

#76
Apr 19, 2007, 11:10 AM
QuoteI think we can all agree that spirituality plays a significant role in My Morning Jacket's music.  I think Jim leaves that spirituality open for each individual to interpret for themselves and I think he does it on purpose.  He has gone out of his way on several occasions to make the point that he believes in excluding no one.  He has also made the point that the structured part of spirituality that we call "Religion" get's a bit messy.  I could see Jim singing a Christian song and turning around and playing a Jewish song right after that and it making complete sense.  I think the spirituality in the song is the same in any language (if you will ;)) so if Jim sings a song about God and then sings one about Buddha that's awesome because they are both on this forum and obviously both fans of My Morning Jacket.

I agree with all of this.  Good post.

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#77
Apr 19, 2007, 11:13 AM
QuoteI'm sorry to be so harsh to Christians, I have a lot of respect and love for many Christians, but this is a lot like talking to a brick wall (I was going to say a kindergartner but that's giving some of you too much credit).

Hmmmm.  Perhaps you should look in the mirror, then.  If personal insults are all you have to add to this debate, then maybe you're the kindergartner.  Religion is a thorny issue, and declaring anyone who's got a different view on it as a "brick wall" or "kindergartner" is just as dismissive as saying "you're a fucking stupid asshole".



Runnin' from somethin' that isn't there

sweatboard

#78
Apr 19, 2007, 11:35 AM
Wow, I just watched the "That's Heaven To Me" clip for the first time and I think I did do a pretty good job of explainng where Jim may be coming from with my last post.  The whole time "that's heaven to me" was playing I was Imagining John and Dylan slow dancing together.  That Was WIERD!


Anyway, thanks for posting that link Dylan.  I think you're right when you say that clip should answer most of the questions that have been raised in this thread.



There's Still Time.........

marino13

#79
Apr 19, 2007, 12:01 PM
The only other thing I will add is that it is impossible to address this issue with concrete statements.  Many people struggle with the complex issue of religion and don't know what to believe at times.  It's possible that Jim believes in something, but isn't quite sure what that is.  Also, even people who do believe in a specific God have their faith waver back and forth depending on their current situation, tragedies, miracles, etc.   Someone could have a much different outlook writing lyrics for album #1 than they do by the time they write album #3.  Bob Dylan would be an obvious example of this.  It's so difficult to put into words, I'll quit now. :-X
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