Europe Cancelled!?!?

[Magnix]

All of the things said above are true indeed. However, as I wrote before, the news of the cancellation of the Diksmuide show was brought  in Belgium as a cancellation of the European tour ... Rumours are spread easily, and I think just one show is not a tour, right? Also, there has been no official statement from the band or it's management, which makes rumour-spreading easier.

Anyhow, sure things can change, the rumours about the August dates were fed by the cancellation of the Diksmuide and Pukkelpop shows and the explanation why on the club's website and on the radio - and that's exactly what caused all this discussion! And I think those folks that were at the show in Brussels last November 4th AND that bought tickets for the Diksmuide July 4th show hoping to get a 'real' show this time, have every right to know what happened that ONLY that particular show was cancelled, while the rest of all the scheduled dates weren't!?

By the way, speakin' of official, an official confirmation of shows is not only comin' from the band, but a confirmation can also be done by a venue or a festival - they will not advertise a show (including what the cost of a ticket will be, as with the 8/26 show at the Liquid Room), when they do not have some sort of confirmation. Pukkelpop had the band on their bill for a while, and T on the Fringe (the Liquid Room show) listed the band on the website ... both is done to attract people to come to the festival ...
How about the scheduled performances at the Leeds and Reading festivals? Both have been confirmed by the festival!

[SMc55]

Magnix's points are all very valid. Of course the band must have enough rest time, but it is sad that the Belgian show, which I understand had problems last time, is the only one cancelled (so far). I'm wondering if the issue is with whoever is responsible for publicity in Belgium - maybe the individual venues' management. What concerned people, I think, was the conflicting messages - Just one gig cancelled, the whole European tour off, ill health, circumstances beyond...etc). All the fans wish the band well, but it was strange to have it announced that one or more of them would be too ill to perform a couple of weeks before the event, and when they were still doing shows in the US.

I hope the band do return to Belgium so their loyal fans there can share the fun. John Conoway says they want to and I trust him.

[CC]

I agree the announcements of all European gigs bein cancelled because of illness were confusing. Don't know where that came from. Anyway, the European August dates (that includes Reading/Leeds) are not happening. I'm sure they've tried everything to make it happen but it just didn't work out schedule-wise.

[EC]

Oh crap.

Oh well, thanks for that, CC.  

[SMc55]

Oh crap.

Oh well, thanks for that, CC.  

Well said EC  :'(

[wordawg]

I agree the announcements of all European gigs bein cancelled because of illness were confusing. Don't know where that came from. Anyway, the European August dates (that includes Reading/Leeds) are not happening.

Hold them horses!
When did they cancel the Leeds festival appearance?

[wordawg]

They are still listed for Leeds.

Another communication problem?

[CC]

They are still listed for Leeds.

Another communication problem?

Well I got the message the other day.
They'll probably update it soon...

[wordawg]

So does that mean at some point in the not too distant future somebody from the band and/or management might deign to let the people who have been badly let down the reasons for the cancellations in England and Belgium? Strangely enough, Ticketmaster (or whoever) are going to have a laugh when people (like me) ask for a refund for a £45:00 ticket because the band that I specifically wanted to see aren't on. They'll think I'm daft.  And they'd be quite right. I'm daft enough think this band/management gives a toss what people think when they spend money on seeing this band in Europe. At least I used to think that. Maybe they don't need to be too bothered with the other side of the pond.
Hope I sound as pissed off as I feel.

I've had enough of all this.
Honestly.

[SMc55]

Hope I sound as pissed off as I feel.

Message received. Loud and clear  :(

All this certainly makes me feel we're rather disposable. Very sad as I'm sure it could all be cleared up with a few words from whoever's making the decisions. We're not unsympathetic, just fed up with getting the mushroom treatment.

[wordawg]

"no short haired yellow bellied son of tricky dicky gonna mother hubbard soft soap me with just a pocket full of hope"

all i want is some truth,
just gimme some truth.

[peanut butter puddin surprise]

Hold up guys.

Why be pissed at your favorite band?  Why be pissed if a scheduling conflict causes a cancellation?  

Disappointed, maybe.  But pissed?  Come on.  Y'all know damn well that they love all of their fans, whether they are from Europe or anywhere, for that matter.  When shows don't happen, don't be pissed at the guys-I'd be more inclined to be pissed at the venues in question, not MMJ.

This thread is becoming hostile, and I don't like it at all.  If you knew how many out of town shows the boys played in the past three years, maybe you'd feel differently as they haven't played in Louisville that much since the At Dawn tour.  Do I get pissed that they don't play that much in their hometown?  Fuck no, I love them and their music too much for that.   Respect is a two way street with these guys, my brothers and sisters.

I pick up and drive 8 hours in all directions to see them.  I try to keep it in mind that they're out there, building upon their success, gaining momentum and new fans.  I'm so overwhelmed with joy when I read the posts here about fans getting off on shows.

Jesus, it's just rock 'n roll.  They'll be back.  Shit happens.

Now, take two shows from the FTP server and call me in the morning.  The Doctor has spoken....

[SMc55]

I do hear what you say John, I really do, and if there was an announcement saying sorry we're not playing xyz but we're knackered or whatever that would be fine. It's a feeling of being kept in the dark that's the problem. As Magnix has pointed out, the rumours started flying when the conflicting messages were being given out in Belgium. That would have been a really good time for rumours to be squashed and some simple statement made. Like you, I've travelled for hours to see them, and would again. I know some people see loads of bands but for others it's not that easy. Here in the geriatric rocker home we don't get out much. It's such a bummer when you go to some trouble organising a trip (tickets, travel, child care etc) and it's cancelled. It's much worse when it's at the end of this will they/won't they rumour stuff. (Just found out how to do the bold thing. Cool  8) )

Anyway, as you say, it's only rock and roll, but I like it!

[Oz]

Goddamn... Last week I got a note from my girlfriend, saying she heard that MMJ were scheduled for August the 20th in Tilburg, Holland. I hadn't heard that yet, so I was really excited. Now I check this site and the 013 site, and it's already cancelled. I wasn't even getting to becoming really excited and they already cancelled it. Goddamn!

Yeah, I know they'll have their reasons but it does feel as if they're giving America priorities. And I can understand that as well, because their popularity over there just keeps increasing, while here in Holland most people are like 'Ah, My Morning Jacket, they were from that The Tennessee Fire album, right?' But if they don't even play, that's not gonna change. One might think they'd have a special relationship with Holland, but I guess that since only 2 current members where part of the band when they were big here...

Aah, I'm being an ass right now, but dammit, it sure is frustrating. I wanna see those guys play 'Cobra', goddammit! >:(

[Magnix]

Yes, we want to see/hear them play Cobra, and we want to see/hear the new guys! I was there in January 2000 when they first came to The Netherlands and Belgium, with J. Glenn on drums. I was there when Chris 'KC' Guetig took over the drumkit and Danny was added on keys. I saw them play with Patrick replacing Chris on drums, so please don't change the line-up before coming over again ;)

A Dutch date scheduled as well!? It seems there was a complete European tour in the makes ... Bummer.

[wordawg]

Can't go with you on this one JC.
The Carling Festival is not to blame if the band pull out.  They were advertised as being on the Main Stage which is a big move up from the tent they were in last year.  I wasn't too bothered about going for the full 3 days so I chose to pay for a day ticket just to see them. The festival hasn't cancelled them, they've cancelled themselves. That's their responsibility, or their managements.
We haven't been told any reason for the cancellation for this or any of the other gigs, so we are left to come up with our own reasons and if we/you want to take a benevolent view its put down to too much touring, etc, etc.(And if this is the reason, what are their management palying at?) But if you adopt a more unbalanced, pissed off view (which is the line I'm taking) you become cynical.  This happens when we are allowed to draw our own conclusions. Its a personal choice.
I am pissed and, to a degree, hostile.  That's my choice, and until someone tells me something definite - and not just defensive counter speculation - I'll remain so.


It's NOT all good.

[wordawg]

It used be more than that JC. Much more, that's why this has provoked such a degree of passion.

[lfish]

it's only rock and roll

Damn right it is and indeed shit happens but I think we have to put things in perspective here.

I agree, at first I was also frustrated and disapointed that the band couldn't come to Europe. I was really looking forward to it as beeing the ideal start of the summer.  I surely can understand that the disapointment of having paid for a cancelled show is even bigger, maybe brings up a hostile feeling. But now after a while, I'm over it and after listening to their cd's, I just can't hate this band or feeling hostile towards it.

But I hope for people who do, this is just a temporary frustation and will not stay for a very long time.  

If you look at the touring programme of the jacket, you can indeed say that they deserve a rest.  So if the jacket took to much hay on their stick, maybe it's because their hunger to perform live is bigger than they physically can manage.

But then it's the task to ventilate everything towards management who should then at their turn communicate with the fans and organizers of festivals.  However ,as the jacket recently started as a small band and maybe still are, I don't think they have a well extended and equiped team to support the band.  Frankly I think they work their asses off to let the jacket's name ring in the musical world. So I don't know if a quick and satisfying answer is so easy to put.
 
But I do believe an official explanation will be communicated to us within a short while (Especially after all this commotion. We just have to be patient. And when people are uncertain about something, impatiency is increasing.  So your reaction is natural, but try to put things in pespective.

It's only rock'n roll. No on gets hurt, we all get out alive.

[wordawg]

Gently said lfish.

I remain pissed, but that's my choice.

[wordawg]

But I do believe an official explanation will be communicated to us within a short while

Agreed. But this has been going for a couple of weeks lfish, and the non-response is the crux of the issue for me.