it's official MMJ opening for PJ!

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ratsprayer

#60
Mar 08, 2006, 09:30 AM
QuoteThis is like the coolest thing ever.


thats....just like...your opinion, man.    ;)

yieldgirl

#61
Mar 08, 2006, 09:57 AM
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well, not to thrilled with this news. seems kinda lame to me. pj lost all relevance about six years ago. the last two albums, i didn't find them to be very good at all. this all feels like a (small) step backward. then again, i'm selfish and i wanted another headlining tour.

and i really don't understand how all you guys are ecstatic over this!!!; shorter sets, soaring ticket prices, and a headliner it seems most of you guys have seen before or heard a thousand times; its not like you guys are going for the new songs, or are you?

don't get me wrong, i'm happy mmj has this opportunity and it will be beneficial to them, and i'm happy for 'the boys,' but i just can't shake this feeling....it's just lame.  i don't really see them as an opening band anymore, least of all for pj. but that's me.

overall, the welfare of 'the boys' is most important to me, so i'll deal with it.

MMJ, go rock the FUCK out of those pj fans!!! i hope eddie and co. realize what a mistake they just made.

oh well. i guess i'm gonna have to consider nashvegas.

oh and $120 is a fucking joke. two tickets or noe.

well it's kind of funny since when I was talking to someone back in Dec, and they were telling me how the band still wasn't making all that much money .  They asked how they could change or do different marketing and I suggest them to tell the guys "hey check out the way PJ does things"  and now, they are opening for them.  Hmm, maybe this will bring in new MMJ fans and the guys will be able to live comfortable doing what they love to do.

Oh and I got this e-mail from MMJ mangament this morning for all those upset with MMJ playing shorter setlist, soaring ticket prices

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Hey  - thanks so much for reaching out to us.  Unfortunately, MMJ is only touring with Pearl Jam for the first leg of their tour, which is the dates that were just announced.  If Pearl Jam does make it to your part of the country, MMJ will not be with them.  That said, My Morning Jacket is hoping to tour nationally later in the year, so definitely stay tuned to the website and email updates for news on that...
 
Thanks again for getting in touch.  I hope that answers your question!
 
Take Care,
Jamie Sampson
He made it to the ocean, had a smoke in a tree.
The wind rose up set him down on his knee.
A wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw.
Deliver him wings,

growpe

#62
Mar 08, 2006, 09:59 AM
QuoteAs far as I know PJ has an extremely OPEN taping policy.  It shouldn't be difficult in any sort of way.  I remember reading one time that they were second only to the Dead at one point as far as being the most bootleged band.  Did they policy change recently?  


They are "open" in that you can bring in a non-professional handheld walkman type recorder no problem. If you want to bring in anything professional you will have to stealth it. No mic stands, no preamps, no DATs. Most of the audience sources you see are stealthed becasue the policy blows. It's cool that they release their shows to the fans but Id rather get a decent non-stealth audience pull.  

Sleazy Rider

#63
Mar 08, 2006, 10:37 AM
I think it's great for The Jacket but you have to think, most of us paid like $18 plus charges for the last tour
Politics. It's a drag. They put one foot in the grave, and the other on The Flag.

yieldgirl

#64
Mar 08, 2006, 10:39 AM
I know I paid more then that for my tixs to the palace show.

Then again they are playing in a whole lot bigger venue.
He made it to the ocean, had a smoke in a tree.
The wind rose up set him down on his knee.
A wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw.
Deliver him wings,

Half

#65
Mar 08, 2006, 11:17 AM
i've asked this before- no idea if its valid.

do you think MMJ cancelled the european tour when they were approached about opening for PJ?
but i done went and plum forgot it

Mr. T.

#66
Mar 08, 2006, 11:27 AM
Quotei've asked this before- no idea if its valid.

do you think MMJ cancelled the european tour when they were approached about opening for PJ?

I do believe the european dates (february & march) were well before these PJ-dates (may&june).

Quote[ If Pearl Jam does make it to your part of the country, MMJ will not be with them.  That said, My Morning Jacket is hoping to tour nationally later in the year, so definitely stay tuned to the website and email updates for news on that...
 


I'm sincerely hoping Europe get's its full on Z-Rock-Show BEFORE another american tour... no furthur comments...
We are young despite the years,
we are concern,
we are hope despite the times

ratsprayer

#67
Mar 08, 2006, 11:45 AM
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I'm sincerely hoping Europe get's its full on Z-Rock-Show BEFORE another american tour... no furthur comments...

i sincerely hope it for you guys as well.  i notice a lot of the european fans havent been around the past few days.  the news machine is in full force now announcing these dates, how about some other news?  

john_coktoseton

#68
Mar 08, 2006, 05:11 PM
Ugh! Anyone else dreading paying $50 to see about 30 minutes of MMJ, then bailing because sitting through a Pearl Jam show lost it's luster over a decade ago. I'll pay $50 just to see MMJ play for 2 and half hour but I know most Pearl Jam fans won't even bother listening to the MMJ set because new music ended in 1994 for most of them. Bad matchup for MMJ  I.M.H.O.

efroten

#69
Mar 08, 2006, 05:48 PM
QuoteUgh! Anyone else dreading paying $50 to see about 30 minutes of MMJ, then bailing because sitting through a Pearl Jam show lost it's luster over a decade ago. I'll pay $50 just to see MMJ play for 2 and half hour but I know most Pearl Jam fans won't even bother listening to the MMJ set because new music ended in 1994 for most of them. Bad matchup for MMJ  I.M.H.O.

Look, if you dont want to pay $50 to see a MMJ then dont.  Its a PJ show after all, and MMJ is an added bonus.  Im a HUGE fan of both bands, in fact I think they are the two best bands currently playing.  This is like a dream for me.

Pearl Jams shows have not lost any luster.  They are dif. now, thats for sure (no crazy ed jumping off ledges etc).  They are still one of the best live bands in the world.  They change setlists up every night, no night is the same.  On the 2003 tour, they played around 150 different songs throughout 72 shows.  They may not sell huge amounts of records anymore, but they are one of the biggest live acts around.  And for good reason.  Pay the $50, stick around for the whole show and you will understand.  You havnt heard the band until you have heard them live, in person.

Hopefully MMJ gets a good amount of stage time, I think previous bands got around 45min in 2005.  I'd love to see themm on a double bill, but the fact is that MMJ won't draw enough of a crowd to make it happen.  Also, I really hope the crowds get there early to see MMJ.  People who dont know them are in for a treat.

And sorry, but new music did not end in 1994 for PJ fans.  You underestimate this band and its fans.  4 of my friends who had never seen PJ live before went with me to some shows in 2003.  They were all amazed at how great it was.  None of them are big fans, just casual fans of the hits etc.  But each one of them was completely blown away, by the ENTIRE show, not just the hits.  One of the major reasons for this was the fact that the crowds were just awesome.

See them live, and then judge them.

jrat

#70
Mar 08, 2006, 05:58 PM
Amen to that efroten!!! PJ fans are the ones who got me hooked on MMJ. Just pay up and rock your socks off. infact dont even bring socks, there gonna be destroyed anyway.
wave upon wave of demented avengers march cheerfully out of obscurity into a dream - pink floyd

sweatboard

#71
Mar 08, 2006, 08:16 PM
Right On, Pearl Jam hasn't lost any of it's luster when it comes to playing live.  I don't think you'll find to many people that have seen them play live lately agreeing with that thought.  Pearl Jam did not end in the mid 90's they just did an outstanding job of backing out of being a Rock Star cliche.  Kurt unfortunetly did not.  PJ quit putting out singles and promoting the hell out of them or making music videos, actually they pretty much quit all types of promotion.  They put out the records and let the music stand on it's own.  The records didn't suck they are actually all really amazing (Although I think Riot Act has been thier worst record still pretty damn good) but alot of people weren't going to be happy with a Pearl Jam record that didn't have at least 3-4 hit singles on it blairing out of every radio in America.  Pearl Jam still sell out shows partly because of the nostalgia factor.  Many people just want to go sing along to Black and Alive for old time sake but the thing that really keeps Pearl Jam afloat is the huge hardcore fanbase they have sustained through it all.  While the masses may have thought that Yield, No Code, Binaural, Riot Act, were uninspired pieces of crap I can guarentee you there is a large group of people out there that absolutly know that's just not true.  PJ may not be relevent as far as main stream media anymore (which I'm sure they are very proud of and happy about) but they are very much relevent to the people that have stayed in tune with the music.  

P.S. I'm not saying that if you don't like Pearl Jam you are wrong.  I just think that the Pearl Jam alot of people don't like anymore isn't the same Pearl Jam many of us love.  If that makes sense......... it's not as simple as it sounds, I hope.  
There's Still Time.........

yieldgirl

#72
Mar 08, 2006, 10:13 PM
QuoteRight On, Pearl Jam hasn't lost any of it's luster when it comes to playing live.  I don't think you'll find to many people that have seen them play live lately agreeing with that thought.  Pearl Jam did not end in the mid 90's they just did an outstanding job of backing out of being a Rock Star cliche.  Kurt unfortunetly did not.  PJ quit putting out singles and promoting the hell out of them or making music videos, actually they pretty much quit all types of promotion.  They put out the records and let the music stand on it's own.  The records didn't suck they are actually all really amazing (Although I think Riot Act has been thier worst record still pretty damn good) but alot of people weren't going to be happy with a Pearl Jam record that didn't have at least 3-4 hit singles on it blairing out of every radio in America.  Pearl Jam still sell out shows partly because of the nostalgia factor.  Many people just want to go sing along to Black and Alive for old time sake but the thing that really keeps Pearl Jam afloat is the huge hardcore fanbase they have sustained through it all.  While the masses may have thought that Yield, No Code, Binaural, Riot Act, were uninspired pieces of crap I can guarentee you there is a large group of people out there that absolutly know that's just not true.  PJ may not be relevent as far as main stream media anymore (which I'm sure they are very proud of and happy about) but they are very much relevent to the people that have stayed in tune with the music.  

P.S. I'm not saying that if you don't like Pearl Jam you are wrong.  I just think that the Pearl Jam alot of people don't like anymore isn't the same Pearl Jam many of us love.  If that makes sense......... it's not as simple as it sounds, I hope.  


very well put :)

Think I'm now heading up to chicago to see my two favorite bands.
He made it to the ocean, had a smoke in a tree.
The wind rose up set him down on his knee.
A wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw.
Deliver him wings,

SplatSplatSplat

#73
Mar 10, 2006, 03:11 AM

lame.
You need it.  That's for sure.

EgoTrppN

#74
Mar 10, 2006, 03:14 AM
First of all this is going to be an amazing show. My favorite two bands in the same night. But honestly from experience I can say that PJ can rock a show harder than any band out there. Anyone who's seen them play in boston the past few years knows what I'm talking about. I love MMJ and I'm sure they will fk sht up but seeing PJ live is a totally different exprience. Especially in venue's this big.

EgoTrppN

#75
Mar 10, 2006, 03:22 AM
On another note, I dare anyone here to name a band that is still around that has been together longer and put out more consistent music then pearl jam. They made it through the whole "grunge era" and have put out 7 studio albums (8 in may) that all have totally  unique sounds. On top of that they've done it all without any mainstream help or support in the past 8 years.

DiamondDays

#76
Mar 10, 2006, 06:41 AM
I just hope that Jim doesn't get 'ill' again, like he does every time a European jaunt is planned. Something tells me he'll hold on to his health for this one.

I know this is going to get a lot of flack from diehard fans, but quite frankly I don't care.

I've been a loyal supporter of My Morning Jacket for years and I'm fed up of being let down. I've also talked to various people who know Jim, who have been a little more candid about his 'illnesses'.

EC

#77
Mar 10, 2006, 08:40 AM
If you look around, DiamondDays you'll see that there's been a lot of talk about all of this.  And if you'd like to read about the latest, you can even find it if you search google news.  Welcome to the board!  

peanut butter puddin surprise

#78
Mar 10, 2006, 10:03 AM
QuoteI've also talked to various people who know Jim, who have been a little more candid about his 'illnesses'.

Care to share, Dr. Know-it-all?
Runnin' from somethin' that isn't there

Half

#79
Mar 10, 2006, 02:38 PM
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Care to share, Dr. Know-it-all?

turns out he's lactose intolerant...who knew?
but i done went and plum forgot it
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