Fratboy Douchebags

[el_chode]

can the signal be patrick's run thru clock-arms, resulting in the support converging as a mass of air-guitaring comrades?

[Sassbox]

I'm going to chime in here and say there is a general lack of respect these days and it's not limited to 20-somethings who can't hold their liquor.  

At MMJ's Louisville show, a woman lifted her dress slightly and urinated on the ground less than a foot away from me.  I actually felt it splash on my feet.  At the recent Wilco/Neil Young show at MSG, we spoke with two 40-something guys on the rail who appeared to be nice, decent people.  I even bought them beers for holding my spot at the rail when I went to the restroom.  At some point during the show, they decided it would be okay to start grabbing my behind repeatedly.  These are two extremes, but I've been to many, many shows this year and I have seen it all...and never cease to be amazed when I do.

My point is that while obnoxious, rude, anti-social behavior may be more prevalent amongst the people referenced in the title of this thread, it certainly isn't limited to them.

[Penny Lane]

people who talk during "Golden" should be taken out back and shot, they are taking up valuable oxygen on this planet.  i will be the one to explain to their loved ones.  i don't buy the "you knew what you're in for" argument--that's just not acceptable.

[edierevolution]

I know I've bitched about the douchebags in Chicago enough, but I was thinking...

If any those assholes (or anyone like them, ie. people who generally behave like dicks who are at the show for any reason other than the music) are here reading this board, then I have a message for you:

Last Saturday, the douchebags next to me brought out a one-hitter and started smoking up while talking during the show, inviting all their friends over to crowd my row (and personal space), and sing loud enough that I couldn't actually hear the band at points.  One of them got hauled out by security.  Don't get me wrong -- I have nothing against smoking pot.  Indeed, I smoke quite a bit myself.

HOWEVER

In future shows, if any of you decide to behave like assholes at future shows and you happen to be around me, then you'd better be careful.  If you piss me off enough, then I WILL narc on you to security in order to get your asses away from me so that I can enjoy the show.

The band and the music come first to me, people.  Respect that.

What's wrong with everyone? There's no "tattling" in rock and roll!

Seriously... the only thing worse than a drunken, obnoxious douchebag at a show is a narc. Karma's a killer... don't think if you rat someone out the same thing won't happen to you in the future.

[el_chode]

i don't think that talking is something to be expected at a concert. at the same time, i also don't expect a ryan adams-style reaction if and when it does happen (i don't see yim yames ever doing that though)

however, being occasionally knocked into, having your view blocked - occasionally, wide-pupils, and fragrant aromas are all quite expected.

i will agree though, talking during golden is just a waste, especially since there is a 99% chance it will be my wedding song. i like to take all of it in.

i am still most annoyed with the glow sticks hitting the band out of everything.

[ycartrob]

people who talk during "Golden" should be taken out back and shot, they are taking up valuable oxygen on this planet.  i will be the one to explain to their loved ones.

well, of course. But you wouldn't stoop so low as to tell security on them; that's just lame.

[BH]

Talking during the soft songs drives me crazy as well.  However, I try my best to remember that occasionally, in the past, when I was at a show that I may have only been mildly interested in, I may have had some conversations with people at the show that I haven't seen in awhile, and I very well could of pissed off a person that was a huge fan of that particular band.   I'm also getting better at blocking all of the bullshit out, and zoning in on the show.  I enter my own little world.  At Jacket shows, it's amazing how many strangers have "joined me" in that world.   A special moment in time.  Strangers passing in the night, a knowing glance, and then never to be seen again.  Focus on those people, and don't let the bad stuff ruin your night!   (I realize this is not always possible with the extreme stuff, but don't let the little stuff get you down.)

[gilisevil]

on new years, there wasnt alot of "blocking" one could do.  "amateur hour" an earlier post put it best.

theres not much of a place for talking at a show...  especially when the large majority of folks are there to experience the auditory sensation.

generally at a show with a lull, you make your way toward the beverages.  that usually helps the problem... unless you ARE the problem.

[Taterbug]

I didn't experience any problems at either Chicago show.  At least not anything that was out of the ordinary for a Rock concert.  Most everyone stood thru-out the hole show.  I saw some sitting. I sat down a few times to rest my legs. It's no biggie, I can still hear  the tunes.
I find the older I get the more tolerable I am with the  douchetards. I can even go to a movie theater now and sit next someone chomping down on popcorn and talking on there celly without grabbing them by the throat.
WWJD ( probably grab them by the throat  )  ;D

[ycartrob]

I find the older I get the more tolerable I am with the  douchetards.

I hear ya on that one. At the Nashville show a couple of years ago some young college guy pushed his way to the rail before the show started, being loud, obnoxious, basically terrifying people. I was pissed at first, but then decided to try and change the energy and I struck up a conversation with him. Long story short, we talked for like 10 minutes and he poured a little of his heart out to me (sr. in college, no direction, drinks too much) and it loosened up the whole vibe around us and everyone seemed to get along.

[size=16]Give out what you wish to receive.[/size]

[Taterbug]

I find the older I get the more tolerable I am with the  douchetards.

I hear ya on that one. At the Nashville show a couple of years ago some young college guy pushed his way to the rail before the show started, being loud, obnoxious, basically terrifying people. I was pissed at first, but then decided to try and change the energy and I struck up a conversation with him. Long story short, we talked for like 10 minutes and he poured a little of his heart out to me (sr. in college, no direction, drinks too much) and it loosened up the whole vibe around us and everyone seemed to get along.

[size=16]Give out what you wish to receive.[/size]

I think we should start a National Hug a Douche Day..  you get more bees with honey, thats what pops always taught me.  That and.... if you touch my stuff I kill ya.

[NoVa_NoLa]

i started this thread ... what prompted me was more than just talkers, and other disinterested people, but rather, bunches of young-ish dudes, maybe in their early 20s, not too intelligent, full of testosterone, charged up by too much beer and confused sexual energy, no idea how to appropriately control themselves or handle their feelings ... they flail around, knocking into everyone around them, with absolutely no regard for anyone but themselves, refusing to respect boundaries in any way.  it's like the world is theirs, and every show is a hardcore show.  there's no communicating or otherwise reasoning with them, so you're stuck taking in the show with half your brain, while the other half worries about whether they're about to knock your girlfriend over, spill beer on you, and force you into confronting them.  it's truly unpleasant.

I'm not sure where these people come from, but as a general rule of thumb if the way you have a good time is bothering anybody else, you should move along.  Find an area or activity where you can do what you want to do with out causing someone else to not have a good time.

It's really not that difficult a concept, but it does seem like a lot of folks don't get it.  How much fun are they having ruining someone else's night?

Being a stubborn Capricorn, my way of dealing with these people is to give them some of their own medicine (helps to be really tall and pretty good at boxing out).  Funny how they never like it.   ::)