first black president or first woman V.P.

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aMillionDreams

QuoteIt does say that, but whats your point about judging.  You trying to say I can't pass judgement on those running for president or something?

You can't pass judgement on gay people because they are sinners just like you, according to the Bible.


I'm making swiss cheese out of your arguments if you've noticed.  Your stances don't stand up to reason.  So why don't you stick to teaching your children Obama kills babies and give up trying to convince those of us with the capacity for rational thought
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MMJ_fanatic

Convince you of what exactly?  Read the Old Testament and you will see the passage.  I am not judging the morality of homosexuals--that is up to God.  
As far as your capacity for rational thought--I find that questionable since you are so dismissive about all the questionable associations and ideology raised about a political candidate who doesn't feel the citizens of the country rate any kind of explanation.
The U.S. didn't rise to greatness by following a socialist model for its society.  If we remove the motivation of a merit based reward system for the people who actually work for a living by stripping away the goal of continuing to earn more by performing well because we know most will be stripped away to "spead it around" then there's little point in trying to excel (except for maybe at cheating the tax system).
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aMillionDreams

McCain voted to National the Banks and education, smells like socialism to me.
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MMJ_fanatic

QuoteMcCain voted to National the Banks and education, smells like socialism to me.

We already have a federal dept of education--which was a horrible huge mistake.  Feds are in charge of money already too--hello--federal reserve?

I don't want my wallet raped any harder than it already is.
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ycartrob

I think a lot of people who condemn homosexuality have a fear of their own same sex attraction. That gets played out over and over and over again. I think sexual attraction falls on a continuum and no one is completely gay or str8.

Hate what you don't understand. Hate what you fear.

MMJ_fanatic

QuoteI think a lot of people who condemn homosexuality have a fear of their own same sex attraction. That gets played out over and over and over again. I think sexual attraction falls on a continuum and no one is completely gay or str8.

Hate what you don't understand. Hate what you fear.

That is probably true for haters
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purvis9876

QuoteI think a lot of people who condemn homosexuality have a fear of their own same sex attraction. That gets played out over and over and over again. I think sexual attraction falls on a continuum and no one is completely gay or str8.

Hate what you don't understand. Hate what you fear.

Neil Peart had it here:
They say there are strangers who threaten us,
are immigrants and infidels.
They say there is strangeness too dangerous
In our theaters and bookstore shelves.
Those who know what's best for us
Must rise and save us from ourselves.

Quick to judge,
Quick to anger,
Slow to understand
Ignorance and prejudice
And fear walk hand in hand...

Evey: Are you, like, a crazy person?
V: I am quite sure they will say so.

aMillionDreams

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QuoteMcCain voted to National the Banks and education, smells like socialism to me.

We already have a federal dept of education--which was a horrible huge mistake.  Feds are in charge of money already too--hello--federal reserve?

I don't want my wallet raped any harder than it already is.

There is a difference between the federal reserve and the bill McCain voted into law recently. Hello!?  And NCLB, which you seem to support and McCain voted for expanded the role of the federal government in the area of education.  So are you a socialist?
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ycartrob

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QuoteI think a lot of people who condemn homosexuality have a fear of their own same sex attraction. That gets played out over and over and over again. I think sexual attraction falls on a continuum and no one is completely gay or str8.

Hate what you don't understand. Hate what you fear.

Neil Peart had it here:
They say there are strangers who threaten us,
are immigrants and infidels.
They say there is strangeness too dangerous
In our theaters and bookstore shelves.
Those who know what's best for us
Must rise and save us from ourselves.

Quick to judge,
Quick to anger,
Slow to understand
Ignorance and prejudice
And fear walk hand in hand...


you're my hero

:)

MMJ_fanatic

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QuoteMcCain voted to National the Banks and education, smells like socialism to me.

We already have a federal dept of education--which was a horrible huge mistake.  Feds are in charge of money already too--hello--federal reserve?

I don't want my wallet raped any harder than it already is.

There is a difference between the federal reserve and the bill McCain voted into office. Hello!?  And NCLB, which you seem to support and McCain voted for expanded the role of the federal government in the area of education.  So are you a socialist?

Nope--I want smaller government and the U.S. to go back to its federalist roots where the states made decisions independently regarding laws etc.  I don't believe its the government's job to redistribute peoples' incomes.  Provide for the common defense and keep the highways in operating order sound like good places to start.
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aMillionDreams

So you don't support NCLB despite what you said earlier in this thread?
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purvis9876

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QuoteMcCain voted to National the Banks and education, smells like socialism to me.

We already have a federal dept of education--which was a horrible huge mistake.  Feds are in charge of money already too--hello--federal reserve?

I don't want my wallet raped any harder than it already is.

There is a difference between the federal reserve and the bill McCain voted into office. Hello!?  And NCLB, which you seem to support and McCain voted for expanded the role of the federal government in the area of education.  So are you a socialist?

Nope--I want smaller government and the U.S. to go back to its federalist roots where the states made decisions independently regarding laws etc.  I don't believe its the government's job to redistribute peoples' incomes.  Provide for the common defense and keep the highways in operating order sound like good places to start.

I couldn't agree with that statement more, but there's a difference between providing for the common defense and continuing/starting an unjustified war(McCain). Oh, and Barack is no different. He may get us out of Iraq, in about 2 f-ing years, but he'll ultimately direct us into something new. We just can't keep our noses out.
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Angry Ewok

QuoteI think a lot of people who condemn homosexuality have a fear of their own same sex attraction. That gets played out over and over and over again. I think sexual attraction falls on a continuum and no one is completely gay or str8.

Hate what you don't understand. Hate what you fear.

Sorry, Tracy, but I'm completely straight. I agree, though, that the folks spewing hate are often times telling on themselves. There's a great story about that with King David.
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mjkoehler

OK. I am not going to read this thread after this as it truly is just mental masterbation, no offense to anyone in particular.

I do not know if anyone on this board makes $250,000 or more a year. If you do not, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU BITCHING ABOUT? If Obama wins, he is promising you a tax cut. When did that become a bad thing?

I'm so sick of this shit. Whatever poeple. Vote who you want to, but vote! If you don't, you have absolutly no fucking right to bitch and complain about a damn thing in this country.

purvis9876

QuoteOK. I am not going to read this thread after this as it truly is just mental masterbation, no offense to anyone in particular.

I do not know if anyone on this board makes $250,000 or more a year. If you do not, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU BITCHING ABOUT? If Obama wins, he is promising you a tax cut. When did that become a bad thing?

I'm so sick of this shit. Whatever poeple. Vote who you want to, but vote! If you don't, you have absolutly no fucking right to bitch and complain about a damn thing in this country.

Got my absentee ballot in the mail yesterday.  ;D
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aMillionDreams

QuoteOK. I am not going to read this thread after this as it truly is just mental masterbation, no offense to anyone in particular.

I do not know if anyone on this board makes $250,000 or more a year. If you do not, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU BITCHING ABOUT? If Obama wins, he is promising you a tax cut. When did that become a bad thing?

I'm so sick of this shit. Whatever poeple. Vote who you want to, but vote! If you don't, you have absolutly no fucking right to bitch and complain about a damn thing in this country.

Agreed. Anyone making less than 250,000 and voting Republican could not possibly understand the platforms of the GOP.  They are delusional,  MMJfantatic is a prime example of that.
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ycartrob

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QuoteI think a lot of people who condemn homosexuality have a fear of their own same sex attraction. That gets played out over and over and over again. I think sexual attraction falls on a continuum and no one is completely gay or str8.

Hate what you don't understand. Hate what you fear.

Sorry, Tracy, but I'm completely straight. I agree, though, that the folks spewing hate are often times telling on themselves. There's a great story about that with King David.

little sensitive huh? I wasn't even talking to you and you weren't even in the conversation, but you feel compelled to defend your sexuality.

interesting  ::)


Angry Ewok

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Dorothy_Mantooth

You always have the right to bitch even if you didn't vote. There are many Americans who feel they have grown up in a country that limits itself with a political system that fails to deliver worthy candidates.

And of course a significant percentage doesn't vote simply because they can't. Unfortunately, we have a country that occasionally makes it difficult to get to the polls. But of course there's a whole psychology behind that.
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Ghosts_on_TV

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QuoteI think a lot of people who condemn homosexuality have a fear of their own same sex attraction. That gets played out over and over and over again. I think sexual attraction falls on a continuum and no one is completely gay or str8.

Hate what you don't understand. Hate what you fear.

Sorry, Tracy, but I'm completely straight. I agree, though, that the folks spewing hate are often times telling on themselves. There's a great storyabout that with King David.

You are dead to me brad.
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