The Walking Dead Thread (Spoilers Ahead)

Started by el_chode, Nov 29, 2010, 10:59 PM

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Sticky Icky Green Stuff

ah, yes, the good ol' on the fly amputations.   thought they were going to do that to randall.  comic spoiler that has no relation to the show:  it'd be pretty nuts if they did something similar with what happened to allen in the comic.  when allen gets bit in the leg rick freaks and chops it off.  then hershel tries to tie off the arteries and shit with axel's hair and hershels all "it's no horse hair".  haha.  I bet they cauterize the fuck out some wounds.

el_chode

A detective I work with came up with a hypothesis that the CDC doc told Rick everyone is infected based on the lack of visible wounds/points of infection on the most recent walkers, namely: Shane turned after only being stabbed with Rick's presumably clean knife, Randall's snapped neck, the two police they found at Mert County Works, the body they found hanging that turned, and Rick's insistence that they always take the brain out with a shot to the head (common Zombie knowledge, but doesn't Rick do that for anyone he shoots in the head?)
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Sticky Icky Green Stuff

how long has the detective known for? haha.  that shit has been by far the hardest secret to keep since this thread started.

el_chode

he told me this morning. did i spoil something/is he right? he said he's never read the comics and doesn't have time for googling now with Skyrim and ME3 on his list.

The other detective that has read the comics was too busy ranting about carl having no supervision but everyone else had to go through military training.
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Quote from: el_chode on Mar 13, 2012, 10:52 PM
he told me this morning. did i spoil something/is he right? he said he's never read the comics and doesn't have time for googling now with Skyrim and ME3 on his list.

The other detective that has read the comics was too busy ranting about carl having no supervision but everyone else had to go through military training.

fuck nah you didn't spoil it.  did you watch it yet?  haha.  he's pretty much right.  it's all about the brainz.  they're all infected.  it's an assumption that it's airborne for now.  not sure if jenner got that specific with rick or not. 

that nursing home is going to be crawling with zombies once those old people start dying.  makes ya wonder if those dudes taking care of the old people knew already? 

and tell that other detective to pay more attention.  carl got gun training just like all the rest yo. 

artump

I was a big fan of the first season of The Walking Dead but the new one seems to be lower, at least in quality when compared to the first one.  I mean, it still is good and all that, but it has lost a lot of impact and a lot of continuous great scenes, but that is something that you would expect really.  It has been known that they would milk it like a cow when there is a good following built for it.

el_chode

Quote from: artump on Mar 13, 2012, 11:12 PM
I was a big fan of the first season of The Walking Dead but the new one seems to be lower, at least in quality when compared to the first one.  I mean, it still is good and all that, but it has lost a lot of impact and a lot of continuous great scenes, but that is something that you would expect really.  It has been known that they would milk it like a cow when there is a good following built for it.

The consensus is that firing the director from the first season was suicide
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Sticky Icky Green Stuff

Quote from: el_chode on Mar 13, 2012, 11:41 PM
Quote from: artump on Mar 13, 2012, 11:12 PM
I was a big fan of the first season of The Walking Dead but the new one seems to be lower, at least in quality when compared to the first one.  I mean, it still is good and all that, but it has lost a lot of impact and a lot of continuous great scenes, but that is something that you would expect really.  It has been known that they would milk it like a cow when there is a good following built for it.

The consensus is that firing the director from the first season was suicide

nah man, it's Frank Darabont who got f'd over or whatever by AMC.  there is a few directors and they sort of get asigned different episodes.  the one who did the dale episode is different than the person who did last nights.  it has a lot to do with editing time and shit I guess. 

Darabont leaving is why DeMunn (Dale) supposedly wanted to be written out of the show.  but Frank will be in the credits until he dies.  just your typical hollywood bullshit.   

some of the special effects work: http://www.amctv.com/the-walking-dead/videos/visual-effects-breakdown-the-walking-dead

this show will have no problem with money.  it draws more viewers now than I think any other show to date.  it's drawing such huge numbers that I saw a commercial on AMC with AMC trying to get walking dead fans to watch Mad Men.  it's insane.  the nerd market is the ultimate entertainment market to tap and they finally did it in the right way. 

it got renewed for 16episodes next season which is the longest of any show in AMC history.  since the governor has been cast it's safe to say he'll show up by at least the end of next season, plus michonne which is like a female daryl and kirkman, the comic creators, favorite character of the series.  shits about to get legendary.  and it will be some dark as fucking shit.  my sources tell me during the pilot the writers couldn't stop talking about seasons 3 and 4 because they're going to be so insane.  people need to accept that they're probably, most likely, staying the fuck out of atlanta.   they're not completely idiots.   t-dogg is my favz.

el_chode

Darabont is who I meant but I couldn't remember his name so I went generic "director" haha
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el_chode

Why is T-dogg your fav and why the fuck has he been the silent token black guy all season? Though I guess if his writing was anything like Carol's it's a good thing because I want Carol and Andrea to just get killed already.
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Sticky Icky Green Stuff

T-Dogg is fun to make fun of.   deep down he's thugish ruggish. 

Jaimoe

I think I'm not going to watch next season. Other than brief glimpses of great, this show has been heavy average from the start. It comes down to bad writing. I love that they killed off Dale, but it really sucks that the weak complacent women somehow survive week after week. The plots surrounding Carl are brutal too. I really want to love this show.

Sticky Icky Green Stuff

Quote from: Jaimoe on Mar 15, 2012, 05:55 PM
I think I'm not going to watch next season. Other than brief glimpses of great, this show has been heavy average from the start. It comes down to bad writing. I love that they killed off Dale, but it really sucks that the weak complacent women somehow survive week after week. The plots surrounding Carl are brutal too. I really want to love this show.

you'll be back.  especially after the finale.  word is it's arguably the best of the series minus the pilot which was more of a movie made for tv than a regular episode. 

all I'll say is it doesn't really get sweet until like issues 20-27ish in the comic and by next season that's exactly where I think it's going to start up.   you'll get your strong females, at least a couple.  mostly women just get raped and do laundry in the comic tho so we'll see. 

Jaimoe

Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Mar 15, 2012, 06:26 PM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Mar 15, 2012, 05:55 PM
I think I'm not going to watch next season. Other than brief glimpses of great, this show has been heavy average from the start. It comes down to bad writing. I love that they killed off Dale, but it really sucks that the weak complacent women somehow survive week after week. The plots surrounding Carl are brutal too. I really want to love this show.

you'll be back.  especially after the finale.  word is it's arguably the best of the series minus the pilot which was more of a movie made for tv than a regular episode. 

all I'll say is it doesn't really get sweet until like issues 20-27ish in the comic and by next season that's exactly where I think it's going to start up.   you'll get your strong females, at least a couple.  mostly women just get raped and do laundry in the comic tho so we'll see.

Do you agree with me in my some of my criticisms? Man, Shane's end was badly done, the predictable part with Carl pulling the trigger. And why did he turn? Did I miss something such as a bite? I hope you are right about your predictions.

Sticky Icky Green Stuff

Quote from: Jaimoe on Mar 15, 2012, 06:29 PM
Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Mar 15, 2012, 06:26 PM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Mar 15, 2012, 05:55 PM
I think I'm not going to watch next season. Other than brief glimpses of great, this show has been heavy average from the start. It comes down to bad writing. I love that they killed off Dale, but it really sucks that the weak complacent women somehow survive week after week. The plots surrounding Carl are brutal too. I really want to love this show.

you'll be back.  especially after the finale.  word is it's arguably the best of the series minus the pilot which was more of a movie made for tv than a regular episode. 

all I'll say is it doesn't really get sweet until like issues 20-27ish in the comic and by next season that's exactly where I think it's going to start up.   you'll get your strong females, at least a couple.  mostly women just get raped and do laundry in the comic tho so we'll see.

Do you agree with me in my some of my criticisms? Man, Shane's end was badly done, the predictable part with Carl pulling the trigger. And why did he turn? Did I miss something such as a bite? I hope you are right about your predictions.

some of it I do for sure.  laurie holder (sp?) aka andrea is the worst.  her face has no emotion because of all the plastic surgery.  she doesn't really have any emotional range. 

Carl's getting better.  the scene with Randall in the shed was solid.  but yeah, some of his scenes are lame.  overall tho I think he'll pay off.  they've got acting coaches and shit on set for the kid i guess.  he's just a normal kid from the area around where they were shooting or something.  very lucky he is.  thought it was stupid carl didn't say anything to rick when he was pointing the gun, but other than that it was alright.

i've hated shane since season one.  that's when he should have died.  at the camp site outside of atlanta.  then there would have been almost zero of the lame ass soap opera love triangle shit.   I thought the setting for that scene at the end with the fog was perfect tho.  visually I think the shows stunning. 

the flaw was the random episodes in the beginning of season 2.  the search for sophia saga was tiresome but killing her off was a good idea.  the episode where carl gets shot and the entire episode is pretty much just rick running thru the field was the low point.  but the second half of this season is heading in a good direction.  Shane's dead, Dale the voice of reason is dead, sophia, carl's only peer that holds him to reality is dead.  it's a downward spiral type of story.  would not be surprised if they killed off and simultaneously introduced new characters in the next episode.  all that Governor shit is going to blow minds. 

this season was about rick becoming a leader and a false sense of security.  I think they accomplished those goals.  perfectly?  no.  but after watching old zombie movies, these guys are doing amazing stuff right now.

shane didn't get bit or scratched.  everyone is infected.  when you die you turn,  when you get bit you turn.  game changer yo. 


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Quote from: Jaimoe on Mar 15, 2012, 06:29 PM
Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Mar 15, 2012, 06:26 PM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Mar 15, 2012, 05:55 PM
I think I'm not going to watch next season. Other than brief glimpses of great, this show has been heavy average from the start. It comes down to bad writing. I love that they killed off Dale, but it really sucks that the weak complacent women somehow survive week after week. The plots surrounding Carl are brutal too. I really want to love this show.

you'll be back.  especially after the finale.  word is it's arguably the best of the series minus the pilot which was more of a movie made for tv than a regular episode. 

all I'll say is it doesn't really get sweet until like issues 20-27ish in the comic and by next season that's exactly where I think it's going to start up.   you'll get your strong females, at least a couple.  mostly women just get raped and do laundry in the comic tho so we'll see.

Do you agree with me in my some of my criticisms? Man, Shane's end was badly done, the predictable part with Carl pulling the trigger. And why did he turn? Did I miss something such as a bite? I hope you are right about your predictions.

Check back 1 page in this thread, Jaimoe. I had a few questions which Sticky answers without giving anything away (especially since the comics & TV series are so different). I have high hopes for this series & I absolutely agree that it's moving in the right direction. I have a strong feeling that shit's about to get crazy. The voice of reason (Dale) is gone & Rick is in a weird place. His humanity is diminishing especially since Carl witnessed some cold blooded murder at the expense of Shane. The incoming horde, Hershel's new line of thought & the badassary that is Daryl are adding up to some zombie stomping of incredible proportions. Keep the faith yo
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el_chode

Quote from: Jaimoe on Mar 15, 2012, 06:29 PM
Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Mar 15, 2012, 06:26 PM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Mar 15, 2012, 05:55 PM
I think I'm not going to watch next season. Other than brief glimpses of great, this show has been heavy average from the start. It comes down to bad writing. I love that they killed off Dale, but it really sucks that the weak complacent women somehow survive week after week. The plots surrounding Carl are brutal too. I really want to love this show.

you'll be back.  especially after the finale.  word is it's arguably the best of the series minus the pilot which was more of a movie made for tv than a regular episode. 

all I'll say is it doesn't really get sweet until like issues 20-27ish in the comic and by next season that's exactly where I think it's going to start up.   you'll get your strong females, at least a couple.  mostly women just get raped and do laundry in the comic tho so we'll see.

Do you agree with me in my some of my criticisms? Man, Shane's end was badly done, the predictable part with Carl pulling the trigger. And why did he turn? Did I miss something such as a bite? I hope you are right about your predictions.

I agree 100%. The show saved itself just enough to make me look forward to next season, esp because of all I've heard of the two major new characters that are due to be introduced (and I think they've learned their lessons on how not to handle a season)
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keep in mind the most important part about this show is Kirkman and he's in it to fucking win it.  he's loving this shit.  does interviews all the time, has two more novels on the way, etc.  good things to come. 

Ob1jacobe

Holly crap.  The Governor is a twisted character.   Stayed up until midnight reading issues 28 - 34.  Then could not sleep after.  I'm 39 and was freaked out by a comic :)

I am hoping for prison and governor for next season.

Sticky Icky Green Stuff

Quote from: Ob1jacobe on Mar 17, 2012, 11:24 AM
Holly crap.  The Governor is a twisted character.   Stayed up until midnight reading issues 28 - 34.  Then could not sleep after.  I'm 39 and was freaked out by a comic :)

I am hoping for prison and governor for next season.

you'll probably feel like crying by #50.  enjoy, it's a really fun read/experience.