Boston BoA * August 14 * Roll Call

[CountSA]

Honestly how much to you expect a 20oz (?) beer to cost at a concert?

[Natonate99]

Sorry I missed everyone at Remy's. Traffic was brutal. Backed up from Concord to the MA line. Got parked around 6:45 and headed in. Think I passed some of you guys in front of Remy's taking pics(thought I recognized Yac). Bummer.
Thought the show was fairly pedestrian. Super basic setlist. Seemed like they were looking for a comfort zone with Patrick back. It Beats is always really nice. Surprised at a back to back night Dondontes. Really enjoy that they are stretching that tune out more and more these days. Was cool t hear it move and build a bit different that usual. This end of Run Thru shit is annoying. At least transition into it out of something and make it interesting. Just starting the end jam from nowhere is a complete waste. The whole power of that tune and the end jam is lost when they do that imo. By far the highlight for me was the Honest Man. Crazy big version. Carl was absolutely killing it. Best version I've seen. Was really glad to see Jim leave some of the scripted theatrics out of Worldless (no stage slide). Thank you. That was getting really annoying. Just be honest on stage. I, for one, could live without the theatrics. If it's honest and you're just moving and acting the way the music moves you, great. If you doing a schtick, stop. It's cheap and silly. Band sounded great. Could have been louder, but they nailed everything as usual.
As for the venue, never again. $10-12 beers? FUCK YOU! No smoking anywhere in the venue? FUCK YOU! Thought the sound inside was really boomy even though it managed to hold the low end really well. And good lord, how bout a little space in the seating. You can barely move if your row is full. Finally moved to some open space so I could dance. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a flailer, but I would like to be able to move more than my head.
I love this band and to me it has the potential to become one of the most powerful live acts ever, but they have got to start changing up the set lists. They are so stagnant. Why would anyone see them on consecutive nights? So many repeats. MMJ has more than enough material and have been playing live together long enough to start performing without the net of a set list. It really makes the shows feel generic and predictable. Would love to be surprised more than once every few shows. Getting bored.

im sorry, but theyre touring behind an album so obviously theres going to be several songs off of that, and then the rest of the show is going to be greatest "hits"/songs that everybody wants to hear, and the couple gems that theyve been putting into the setlists on this tour are more than enough to make me want to see them on consecutive nights. while i kind of agree with you about the setlists being somewhat predictable, theres some bands of the past (led zeppelin) and present (the black keys) that rarely changed their setlists during a tour. so im thankful that jacket does change it up every night. and if you want to see the same band play several nights on a tour and not a hear a repeat id suggest that you get into the jam band scene

                                                                                                                     -nate

[nuggets]

Honestly how much to you expect a 20oz (?) beer to cost at a concert?

Yeah ok, I get it. Same as other venues. Seeing $10 for Bud Light just rubbed me the wrong way. Never used to drink, so I guess it's all just sticker shock. Glad there are more and more BYOB venues in my area these days 'cause those kinda prices are ridiculous.

[nuggets]

Sorry I missed everyone at Remy's. Traffic was brutal. Backed up from Concord to the MA line. Got parked around 6:45 and headed in. Think I passed some of you guys in front of Remy's taking pics(thought I recognized Yac). Bummer.
Thought the show was fairly pedestrian. Super basic setlist. Seemed like they were looking for a comfort zone with Patrick back. It Beats is always really nice. Surprised at a back to back night Dondontes. Really enjoy that they are stretching that tune out more and more these days. Was cool t hear it move and build a bit different that usual. This end of Run Thru shit is annoying. At least transition into it out of something and make it interesting. Just starting the end jam from nowhere is a complete waste. The whole power of that tune and the end jam is lost when they do that imo. By far the highlight for me was the Honest Man. Crazy big version. Carl was absolutely killing it. Best version I've seen. Was really glad to see Jim leave some of the scripted theatrics out of Worldless (no stage slide). Thank you. That was getting really annoying. Just be honest on stage. I, for one, could live without the theatrics. If it's honest and you're just moving and acting the way the music moves you, great. If you doing a schtick, stop. It's cheap and silly. Band sounded great. Could have been louder, but they nailed everything as usual.
As for the venue, never again. $10-12 beers? FUCK YOU! No smoking anywhere in the venue? FUCK YOU! Thought the sound inside was really boomy even though it managed to hold the low end really well. And good lord, how bout a little space in the seating. You can barely move if your row is full. Finally moved to some open space so I could dance. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a flailer, but I would like to be able to move more than my head.
I love this band and to me it has the potential to become one of the most powerful live acts ever, but they have got to start changing up the set lists. They are so stagnant. Why would anyone see them on consecutive nights? So many repeats. MMJ has more than enough material and have been playing live together long enough to start performing without the net of a set list. It really makes the shows feel generic and predictable. Would love to be surprised more than once every few shows. Getting bored.

im sorry, but theyre touring behind an album so obviously theres going to be several songs off of that, and then the rest of the show is going to be greatest "hits"/songs that everybody wants to hear, and the couple gems that theyve been putting into the setlists on this tour are more than enough to make me want to see them on consecutive nights. while i kind of agree with you about the setlists being somewhat predictable, theres some bands of the past (led zeppelin) and present (the black keys) that rarely changed their setlists during a tour. so im thankful that jacket does change it up every night. and if you want to see the same band play several nights on a tour and not a hear a repeat id suggest that you get into the jam band scene

                                                                                                                     -nate

You're right. A lot of bands play the same set list over and over, but not a fan. I get that they are pushing the new album and was thrilled to hear some of the new material live. Already getting a bit burnt on Black Metal though. The pre-recorded aspect is tough for me to get past. On the other hand Freak Out and First Light were stellar. And I do like that they have been switching around some of the new materials placement in the set. I just would love to hear what these guys are capable of if they let go and just went where the music took them.
I guess it's 'cause I come from the "jam band" environment that I get so uptight about stagnant setlists. Feels kinda cheap and generic to hear the same thing over and over and I just don't get why a band this talented, with this much material would do that night after night.

[themarsvolta]

Not for nothing but the band isn't choosing their setlists based on the minority of venue-hoppers that go to multiple shows in a short period of time. They're playing every night at a different place for the people of that given area. They know and appreciate their fans that are spending a lot of money and personal time on following them, but they are trying to honor those that haven't seen them in a while or not at all foremost.

It's awesome that you may have been able to see them multilple times in recent years, but most people don't have that priviledge and you can't blame the band for treating each night in favor of the 'other guys'...

I'm sure you love this band because you wouldn't (or shouldn't) be here writing about them... but seriously, that post came off like they owed you something... but they don't...

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[nuggets]

Not for nothing but the band isn't choosing their setlists based on the minority of venue-hoppers that go to multiple shows in a short period of time. They're playing every night at a different place for the people of that given area. They know and appreciate their fans that are spending a lot of money and personal time on following them, but they are trying to honor those that haven't seen them in a while or not at all foremost.

It's awesome that you may have been able to see them multilple times in recent years, but most people don't have that priviledge and you can't blame the band for treating each night in favor of the 'other guys'...

I'm sure you love this band because you wouldn't (or shouldn't) be here writing about them... but seriously, that post came off like they owed you something... but they don't...

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True and good point. I guess I just like for live shows to seem "special" in some way. Something unique that only you and the others in attendance got to experience. Certainly didn't mean to sound like they owe me anything, but can see how it came off that way. That was not my intention. I just personally feel they could be a much bigger entity live if they changed things up more.

[themarsvolta]

True and good point. I guess I just like for live shows to seem "special" in some way. Something unique that only you and the others in attendance got to experience. Certainly didn't mean to sound like they owe me anything, but can see how it came off that way. That was not my intention. I just personally feel they could be a much bigger entity live if they changed things up more.

Cool to clear it up a bit...

...also don't forget that before the release of Circuital... they played the Terminal 5 Run of 100 songs and one repeat... so they're very capable of pulling off variety on consecutive nights. Sure there will more of something like that in the years to come... I'm sure you believe this to be the case as well.

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[wolof7]

What A Night!!!

Had a blast. Great energy, great setlist, first Honest Man!!!! Dondante, Dancefloors, Victory Dance, Mahgeetah, Black Metal and OBH were Monsters!

Neko was great!

Great to meet Johnnyyac, Mahg33ta, JoeyRogo (thanks for the makers shot my man!), pics to follow, we took a bunch!!

[Randall]

What a great show!  We got delayed by traffic on the Mass Pike, so didn't get to pre-show at Remy's

[mahg33ta]

[MrB]

Some pro shot photography here, enjoy, wish I was there!!!!!

http://www.facebook.com/Stageshooter#!/media/set/?set=a.10150281429853213.351250.352944633212&type=1

[Dillsnufus]

awwesome photos. i wish i could be in the photo pit of a mmj concert. someone help me out? it'd be a dream come true. lol

[Ruckus]

Nice pics Randall and g33ta.

Hey Johnny, what were you doing while the other two prattled on about Deer Tick? ;) ;D

[wolof7]

For the record, my natural picture pose is generally creepy, that beer tasted fine despite the face, even better cause I'm pretty sure it was free, thanks again guys!

[Jahmazed]

They are so stagnant. Why would anyone see them on consecutive nights? So many repeats. MMJ has more than enough material and have been playing live together long enough to start performing without the net of a set list. It really makes the shows feel generic and predictable. Would love to be surprised more than once every few shows. Getting bored.

I just saw them on consecutive nights... Bangor & Boston.. stagnant is not the word that came to mind.   And after a dozen or so shows I should be bored by your logic but it sure didn't feel old seeing VD, Slow, Outta My System, First Light, Day is Coming all for the first time in Boston.     

[Jahmazed]

Honestly how much to you expect a 20oz (?) beer to cost at a concert?

Yeah ok, I get it. Same as other venues. Seeing $10 for Bud Light just rubbed me the wrong way. Never used to drink, so I guess it's all just sticker shock. Glad there are more and more BYOB venues in my area these days 'cause those kinda prices are ridiculous.

Didn't you say you came down from NH?  Where are these BYOB venues you are referring too?  As much as I would enjoy it I don't see MMJ coming to a field north of Concord where you can bring your own beer anytime soon..   

[bold992006]

Sorry I missed everyone at Remy's. Traffic was brutal. Backed up from Concord to the MA line. Got parked around 6:45 and headed in. Think I passed some of you guys in front of Remy's taking pics(thought I recognized Yac). Bummer.
Thought the show was fairly pedestrian. Super basic setlist. Seemed like they were looking for a comfort zone with Patrick back. It Beats is always really nice. Surprised at a back to back night Dondontes. Really enjoy that they are stretching that tune out more and more these days. Was cool t hear it move and build a bit different that usual. This end of Run Thru shit is annoying. At least transition into it out of something and make it interesting. Just starting the end jam from nowhere is a complete waste. The whole power of that tune and the end jam is lost when they do that imo. By far the highlight for me was the Honest Man. Crazy big version. Carl was absolutely killing it. Best version I've seen. Was really glad to see Jim leave some of the scripted theatrics out of Worldless (no stage slide). Thank you. That was getting really annoying. Just be honest on stage. I, for one, could live without the theatrics. If it's honest and you're just moving and acting the way the music moves you, great. If you doing a schtick, stop. It's cheap and silly. Band sounded great. Could have been louder, but they nailed everything as usual.
As for the venue, never again. $10-12 beers? FUCK YOU! No smoking anywhere in the venue? FUCK YOU! Thought the sound inside was really boomy even though it managed to hold the low end really well. And good lord, how bout a little space in the seating. You can barely move if your row is full. Finally moved to some open space so I could dance. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a flailer, but I would like to be able to move more than my head.
I love this band and to me it has the potential to become one of the most powerful live acts ever, but they have got to start changing up the set lists. They are so stagnant. Why would anyone see them on consecutive nights? So many repeats. MMJ has more than enough material and have been playing live together long enough to start performing without the net of a set list. It really makes the shows feel generic and predictable. Would love to be surprised more than once every few shows. Getting bored.

im sorry, but theyre touring behind an album so obviously theres going to be several songs off of that, and then the rest of the show is going to be greatest "hits"/songs that everybody wants to hear, and the couple gems that theyve been putting into the setlists on this tour are more than enough to make me want to see them on consecutive nights. while i kind of agree with you about the setlists being somewhat predictable, theres some bands of the past (led zeppelin) and present (the black keys) that rarely changed their setlists during a tour. so im thankful that jacket does change it up every night. and if you want to see the same band play several nights on a tour and not a hear a repeat id suggest that you get into the jam band scene

                                                                                                                     -nate

You're right. A lot of bands play the same set list over and over, but not a fan. I get that they are pushing the new album and was thrilled to hear some of the new material live. Already getting a bit burnt on Black Metal though. The pre-recorded aspect is tough for me to get past. On the other hand Freak Out and First Light were stellar. And I do like that they have been switching around some of the new materials placement in the set. I just would love to hear what these guys are capable of if they let go and just went where the music took them.
I guess it's 'cause I come from the "jam band" environment that I get so uptight about stagnant setlists. Feels kinda cheap and generic to hear the same thing over and over and I just don't get why a band this talented, with this much material would do that night after night.

I agree with Nuggets.  I used to be so into this band and they are a great live act...but every time I see them I basically feel like it is the same show.  I personally would never see them back to back nights...basically seeing them once on a tour is all I need because I know they are going to play basically the same set.

A perfect example is Wilco.  I saw them at their Solid Sound Festival and on back to back nights they only repeated a few songs.  Wilco is not a jam band..just a great band with enough material to be confident enough to play a good amount of it and give the fans a variety of their material.  I see no reason why MMJ cannot do this espeically after the T5 shows knowing they are capable of playing every song they have. 

[nuggets]

Honestly how much to you expect a 20oz (?) beer to cost at a concert?

Yeah ok, I get it. Same as other venues. Seeing $10 for Bud Light just rubbed me the wrong way. Never used to drink, so I guess it's all just sticker shock. Glad there are more and more BYOB venues in my area these days 'cause those kinda prices are ridiculous.

Didn't you say you came down from NH?  Where are these BYOB venues you are referring too?  As much as I would enjoy it I don't see MMJ coming to a field north of Concord where you can bring your own beer anytime soon..   

There are about 5 or 6 in the NH/VT area. No, none of them could hold MMJ. A concert in a field north of Concord does sound good though.

[nuggets]

They are so stagnant. Why would anyone see them on consecutive nights? So many repeats. MMJ has more than enough material and have been playing live together long enough to start performing without the net of a set list. It really makes the shows feel generic and predictable. Would love to be surprised more than once every few shows. Getting bored.

I just saw them on consecutive nights... Bangor & Boston.. stagnant is not the word that came to mind.   And after a dozen or so shows I should be bored by your logic but it sure didn't feel old seeing VD, Slow, Outta My System, First Light, Day is Coming all for the first time in Boston.     

Bangor was a fairly unique set list, so I can understand how those two nights would not seem repetitive. Look, I'm not telling anyone how they should feel or stating anything as fact. It's all purely my opinion. Didn't like the venue. Thought the set list for Boston was one of the most generic of the tour so far and would like to see these guys truly mix up their set lists and make each show something unique and special.

[Jon T.]

Sorry I missed everyone at Remy's. Traffic was brutal. Backed up from Concord to the MA line. Got parked around 6:45 and headed in. Think I passed some of you guys in front of Remy's taking pics(thought I recognized Yac). Bummer.
Thought the show was fairly pedestrian. Super basic setlist. Seemed like they were looking for a comfort zone with Patrick back. It Beats is always really nice. Surprised at a back to back night Dondontes. Really enjoy that they are stretching that tune out more and more these days. Was cool t hear it move and build a bit different that usual. This end of Run Thru shit is annoying. At least transition into it out of something and make it interesting. Just starting the end jam from nowhere is a complete waste. The whole power of that tune and the end jam is lost when they do that imo. By far the highlight for me was the Honest Man. Crazy big version. Carl was absolutely killing it. Best version I've seen. Was really glad to see Jim leave some of the scripted theatrics out of Worldless (no stage slide). Thank you. That was getting really annoying. Just be honest on stage. I, for one, could live without the theatrics. If it's honest and you're just moving and acting the way the music moves you, great. If you doing a schtick, stop. It's cheap and silly. Band sounded great. Could have been louder, but they nailed everything as usual.
As for the venue, never again. $10-12 beers? FUCK YOU! No smoking anywhere in the venue? FUCK YOU! Thought the sound inside was really boomy even though it managed to hold the low end really well. And good lord, how bout a little space in the seating. You can barely move if your row is full. Finally moved to some open space so I could dance. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a flailer, but I would like to be able to move more than my head.
I love this band and to me it has the potential to become one of the most powerful live acts ever, but they have got to start changing up the set lists. They are so stagnant. Why would anyone see them on consecutive nights? So many repeats. MMJ has more than enough material and have been playing live together long enough to start performing without the net of a set list. It really makes the shows feel generic and predictable. Would love to be surprised more than once every few shows. Getting bored.

im sorry, but theyre touring behind an album so obviously theres going to be several songs off of that, and then the rest of the show is going to be greatest "hits"/songs that everybody wants to hear, and the couple gems that theyve been putting into the setlists on this tour are more than enough to make me want to see them on consecutive nights. while i kind of agree with you about the setlists being somewhat predictable, theres some bands of the past (led zeppelin) and present (the black keys) that rarely changed their setlists during a tour. so im thankful that jacket does change it up every night. and if you want to see the same band play several nights on a tour and not a hear a repeat id suggest that you get into the jam band scene

                                                                                                                     -nate

You're right. A lot of bands play the same set list over and over, but not a fan. I get that they are pushing the new album and was thrilled to hear some of the new material live. Already getting a bit burnt on Black Metal though. The pre-recorded aspect is tough for me to get past. On the other hand Freak Out and First Light were stellar. And I do like that they have been switching around some of the new materials placement in the set. I just would love to hear what these guys are capable of if they let go and just went where the music took them.
I guess it's 'cause I come from the "jam band" environment that I get so uptight about stagnant setlists. Feels kinda cheap and generic to hear the same thing over and over and I just don't get why a band this talented, with this much material would do that night after night.

I agree with Nuggets.  I used to be so into this band and they are a great live act...but every time I see them I basically feel like it is the same show.  I personally would never see them back to back nights...basically seeing them once on a tour is all I need because I know they are going to play basically the same set.

A perfect example is Wilco.  I saw them at their Solid Sound Festival and on back to back nights they only repeated a few songs.  Wilco is not a jam band..just a great band with enough material to be confident enough to play a good amount of it and give the fans a variety of their material.  I see no reason why MMJ cannot do this espeically after the T5 shows knowing they are capable of playing every song they have.

I get what you guys are saying.  IMO, and I could be way off here, but I feel like Wilco is content with where they are (success and popularity wise).  That gives them the luxury to just go out and play whatever they feel like.  I don't think Jim is quite there yet.  So he's kind of relying on his bread and butter to appeal to more and more new fans.  Like I said, I could be way off, that's just my perception.  I'd love to hear all the old stuff, but I'm only averaging a show a year so I'm happy with what I get!