What Exactly Did Jim get "Outta (his) System"?

Started by Nicholas Yames, May 31, 2011, 02:07 AM

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Nicholas Yames

So my buddies (non MMJ fans) always rag on me saying that the Jacket is full of huge druggies (see Okonokos intro/outro, American Dad episode, and so on).

But according to Outta My System, it seems as though Jim doesn't do drugs anymore (weed... etc). Are we to think this is how it is?

Also, do we think he really stole a car/went to prison?
and if all else fails, i'll come running back, wonderin where you went
with my heart.

Ghosts_on_TV

Some girls mothers are bigger than others girls mothers...

ManNamedTruth

Not all songs are written in first person. Outta My System is obviously a third person narrative, and was intended to be a song for Electric Mayhem, the Muppets band. I wouldn't take the song very seriously.
That's motherfuckin' John Oates!

ChronicHunger

i believe one of the lines is "somethings i know ill never get outta my system".......

ManNamedTruth

Quote from: ChronicHunger on May 31, 2011, 03:43 AM
i believe one of the lines is "somethings i know ill never get outta my system".......

I can't imagine Jim ever had a car stealing phase.
That's motherfuckin' John Oates!

ChronicHunger

Quote from: ManNamedTruth on May 31, 2011, 03:46 AM
Quote from: ChronicHunger on May 31, 2011, 03:43 AM
i believe one of the lines is "somethings i know ill never get outta my system".......

I can't imagine Jim ever had a car stealing phase.
I definitely can. Now its very unlikely, but i've done some stupid things when i was younger. If i had to guess,hes probably talking about still getting messed up and sticking his hands into a baskin and robins ice cream cake, waking up in a motel coverd in apple sauce.

Tracy 2112

met·a·phor
[met-uh-fawr, -fer] 

–noun
1. a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable in order to suggest a resemblance, as in "A mighty fortress is our god." Compare mixed metaphor, simile ( def. 1 ) .
2. something used, or regarded as being used, to represent something else; emblem;         
Be the cliché you want to see in the world.

tdb810

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Nicholas Yames

I figured this would get some unfriendly responses.

truth is I was a little buzzed last night after listening to the record 3 times and posting this and was being mostly sarcastic. I probably didn't make that obvious enough, and I'm also semi-new so the senior members jumped on me there.

What I am really trying to get discussed is just what you guys really think this song means?

I definitely agree with Chronic in that I think he is singing about something stupid he did early in his life that everyone warned him about (who hasn't). Also, I have also kinda really wondered what drugs he does/does not experiment with (if any at all) when writing/performing.

Anyways, I think its a great tune, just wanted your guys' thoughts, sorry if I upset anyone.
and if all else fails, i'll come running back, wonderin where you went
with my heart.

The DARK

Jim mentioned that a lot of his earlier songs were about hypothetical situations rather than actual ones. And though Jim did have a crazy phase, I'm not sure that stealing cars and heading to prison are part of his criminal record (though who knows about the car stealing, we all do crazy stuff at that age ;))

I think it's probably just an exaggeration of his high school days, and going from there.
In another time, in another place, in another face

Tracy 2112

Quote from: Nicholas Yames on May 31, 2011, 12:03 PM
I figured this would get some unfriendly responses.

truth is I was a little buzzed last night after listening to the record 3 times and posting this and was being mostly sarcastic. I probably didn't make that obvious enough, and I'm also semi-new so the senior members jumped on me there.

What I am really trying to get discussed is just what you guys really think this song means?

I definitely agree with Chronic in that I think he is singing about something stupid he did early in his life that everyone warned him about (who hasn't). Also, I have also kinda really wondered what drugs he does/does not experiment with (if any at all) when writing/performing.

Anyways, I think its a great tune, just wanted your guys' thoughts, sorry if I upset anyone.

I always thought we should have a "drunk font" for such occasions; and a "sarcasm font".
Be the cliché you want to see in the world.

Ghosts_on_TV

Didn't some guy make a sarcasm symbol for text a year or two ago? That really caught on...
Some girls mothers are bigger than others girls mothers...

Ghosts_on_TV

Quote from: ManNamedTruth on May 31, 2011, 03:35 AM
Not all songs are written in first person. Outta My System is obviously a third person narrative, and was intended to be a song for Electric Mayhem, the Muppets band. I wouldn't take the song very seriously.

Nah, its first person. Otherwise it would be "They told him not to smoke drugs, but he didn't listen, ect..." But like Tracy said...metaphors. It's pretty obviously about getting more mature with old age but not regretting the dumb shit you did as a kid. Because doing dumb shit is what you're supposed to do as a kid.
Some girls mothers are bigger than others girls mothers...

ManNamedTruth

Quote from: Ghosts_on_T5 on May 31, 2011, 03:33 PM
Quote from: ManNamedTruth on May 31, 2011, 03:35 AM
Not all songs are written in first person. Outta My System is obviously a third person narrative, and was intended to be a song for Electric Mayhem, the Muppets band. I wouldn't take the song very seriously.

Nah, its first person. Otherwise it would be "They told him not to smoke drugs, but he didn't listen, ect..." But like Tracy said...metaphors. It's pretty obviously about getting more mature with old age but not regretting the dumb shit you did as a kid. Because doing dumb shit is what you're supposed to do as a kid.

you're right  :dankk2:
That's motherfuckin' John Oates!

Ghosts_on_TV

Quote from: ManNamedTruth on May 31, 2011, 04:55 PM
Quote from: Ghosts_on_T5 on May 31, 2011, 03:33 PM
Quote from: ManNamedTruth on May 31, 2011, 03:35 AM
Not all songs are written in first person. Outta My System is obviously a third person narrative, and was intended to be a song for Electric Mayhem, the Muppets band. I wouldn't take the song very seriously.

Nah, its first person. Otherwise it would be "They told him not to smoke drugs, but he didn't listen, ect..." But like Tracy said...metaphors. It's pretty obviously about getting more mature with old age but not regretting the dumb shit you did as a kid. Because doing dumb shit is what you're supposed to do as a kid.

you're right  :dankk2:

Didn't mean to pick, its the journalism major coming out (that I'm never going to use).
Some girls mothers are bigger than others girls mothers...

RedPatokaSea

Quote from: ChronicHunger on May 31, 2011, 04:02 AMI definitely can. Now its very unlikely, but i've done some stupid things when i was younger. If i had to guess,hes probably talking about still getting messed up and sticking his hands into a baskin and robins ice cream cake, waking up in a motel coverd in apple sauce.

^lol...might this be what you are referring to (from a Paste interview)?

"I used to lay on my bedroom floor in high school coming down from acid with my fingers stuck in a Dairy Queen ice cream cake with Life cereal poured into it like a real bowl of cereal and just cry my eyes out while listening to "Tin Man" or "Lonely People." There was a phase in my life where I was exploring the more psychedelic side of life, and man, the nighttime would be filled with wild whipping metal music and pure-grain fruit punch and chaos and metal jaw-biting, spine-tingling mental confusion, and I remember so very clearly one morning laying in some shitty hotel room bed covered in applesauce, and the sun was starting to come up and I felt like I had just killed a baby seal...and I had lobsters crawling all over me and laying their eggs in my intestines...and somebody put on a mixtape that had "Tin Man" and "All the Lonely People" and then went into "Harvest" by Neil Young and I remember all the lobsters stopped laying their eggs and they sat up and looked at me and I looked at them and we all went "ahhhhhhh" and breathed a big sigh of relief...and crawled off the bed to lay on the floor next to the stereo to hear that pure, pure sound even purer in our ear holes...and that's when I knew I dug the folk rock."

... love it. I doubt he still uses psychedelics, or if he does, I'd guess he uses very rarely. Jim James is psychedelic enough without the psychedelics.

:)

davymac

Who cares what Jim has ever had in his system, its out now.  I know I have had some pretty cloudy piss in my day

ChronicHunger

Quote from: RedPatokaSea on Jun 14, 2011, 12:16 AM
Quote from: ChronicHunger on May 31, 2011, 04:02 AMI definitely can. Now its very unlikely, but i've done some stupid things when i was younger. If i had to guess,hes probably talking about still getting messed up and sticking his hands into a baskin and robins ice cream cake, waking up in a motel coverd in apple sauce.

^lol...might this be what you are referring to (from a Paste interview)?

"I used to lay on my bedroom floor in high school coming down from acid with my fingers stuck in a Dairy Queen ice cream cake with Life cereal poured into it like a real bowl of cereal and just cry my eyes out while listening to "Tin Man" or "Lonely People." There was a phase in my life where I was exploring the more psychedelic side of life, and man, the nighttime would be filled with wild whipping metal music and pure-grain fruit punch and chaos and metal jaw-biting, spine-tingling mental confusion, and I remember so very clearly one morning laying in some shitty hotel room bed covered in applesauce, and the sun was starting to come up and I felt like I had just killed a baby seal...and I had lobsters crawling all over me and laying their eggs in my intestines...and somebody put on a mixtape that had "Tin Man" and "All the Lonely People" and then went into "Harvest" by Neil Young and I remember all the lobsters stopped laying their eggs and they sat up and looked at me and I looked at them and we all went "ahhhhhhh" and breathed a big sigh of relief...and crawled off the bed to lay on the floor next to the stereo to hear that pure, pure sound even purer in our ear holes...and that's when I knew I dug the folk rock."

... love it. I doubt he still uses psychedelics, or if he does, I'd guess he uses very rarely. Jim James is psychedelic enough without the psychedelics.

:)
Thats excatly what i was talking about. Awesome story. I hear thats what the lobster on his guitar is from.

kydiddle

What did he get out of his system? Penny Lane?  ;D
Cow temperature.

Bigsky

Quote from: kydiddle on Jun 14, 2011, 01:26 PM
What did he get out of his system? Penny Lane?  ;D

That's more of a system swap...in PL's dreams.  ;)