have to get this off my chest

[Bigsky]

I honestly think MMJ should start selling these at their shows...



The safe, sanitary convenient, fully biodegradable way to 'pee' "when plumbing's not available®". Use it, seal it, toss it in normal household trash. Pee-Wee should be in every glove-box, emergency kit, backpack, personal pack, as well as every MMJ show. Let Pee-Wee free you from planning life around proximity to the toilet. You can then toss your Pee-Wee bag at ass-hole concert goers...

Each Includes:

• Pee-Wee unisex urine bag.

• Poo Powder waste gelling/deodorizing agent.

Specifications:


• Slip resistant unisex collar can be used by adults or children.

• Snap-close bag--no spills, no contact.

• Gels 24 oz. of liquid waste.

• Biodegradable dispose in normal trash.

[e_wind]

am i the only one who limits his beer intake as to avoid the possibility of hitting the bathroom during the most epic part of the show? because you know that's how it works. you gotta pee, and hten the best thing ever will happen the minute it's too late to pinch.

Same formula for me.  No beer, just liquor.  Go once before the show and I'm good to go.  Works 90% of the time.

i usually plan out my pee breaks before the show. no matter the band, I'll pick out a few songs that I'm okay missing (i.e. I'm Amazed and First Light) and when those songs come on I go pee. If I'm on the rail however I only drink liquor and go during the opener once so I don't have to fight back and forth to the rail all night.

[Fully]

It's nice to read this thread and know that it wasn't just me. For awhile there I started thinking that maybe I am just getting too old to go to a concert. I was there to see the band and groove to the music unlike the majority of the kids around me. It seemed so rude to the band not to pay attention to them.

[he.who.forgets]

I was on the rail, Carl's side kind of near the very end.  Unbeleivable show.  I really didnt notice too many a holes but was pretty shocked at the glowsticks being thrown on stage.  I think I was too entranced with the music to pay much attention to the crowd.

[BigHerm]

We started out one person behind the rail (Carl's side) and ended up getting pushed back six or seven people deep. There were a lot of rudeass bitches around us, including these dudes who talked for the duration of Neko's set. They even loudly proclaimed, "I wish this bitch would get off stage."

Was this in Alpharetta or Tuscaloosa? I was on Carls side in Alpharetta and don't remember anyone yelling during Nekos set. The guys next to me were in Tuscaloosa though and mentioned how bad the crowd was.

[subinai]

where did the glow stick business start? i noticed it for the first time at one of the t5 shows but is there a story behind it?

[wonderfulman]

This problem occurred to me at night 4 of T5.

This one guy (or douche bag I should say) was ferociously swinging his arms around and bumping into other people trying to watch the show. After being confronted by many fans, this man simply said "If you don't like it, then go watch the show from somewhere else!" He didn't change his ways and continuously tried starting a mosh pitt.

This other guy tried crowd surfing during the encore. After traveling about 5 feet in the air, this guy fell flat on his face. The man shot right back in the air and screamed "Yeah!!" and was searching for high 5's. Others, and myself included shot this guy a dirty look and made him feel like an asshole.

The same guy mentioned above, kept shouting "Cover Pearl Jam you pussies! They made you famous!" Every time he shouted that I wanted to turn around and slap him in the face. As soon as the band went into "Oh Sweet Nuthin!" this fellow turned to me and asked me "Who sings this song?" It was at this moment I realized that douche bags attend MMJ shows and they suck.

My hopes is that Roll Call will separate the die-hards and phonies. When MMJ becomes the biggest band in the world (and trust me one day they will), the die hards will have the best seats in the house and the most pleasant experience. All the assholes will be sitting in the upper tier and can talk amongst themselves.

[Dingo]

Sorry to hear about the obnoxious jerks ruining the show for some.  I would expect that there would be quite a few obnoxious 'Bammer Frat Brahs at the show. 

The glowstick thing is really annoying and the newer epidemic of filming the entire show on your cell phone is even worse.  I can understand wanting to get a bit of the show on film but when you've got your phone up in the air all the time it is really annoying and distracting to those around you.

Fortunately, I have not had any problems with bad crowds at the MMJ shows Ive seen but have been subject to some very obnoxious ones in the past.

[BigHerm]

where did the glow stick business start? i noticed it for the first time at one of the t5 shows but is there a story behind it?

I'm not sure, but the band doesn't seem to mind, or they're really good actors. In Alpharetta Jim was throwing them back out in to the crowd, and putting them in his beard and going with the flow. They also have a glowstick war in the new HOTBM video. Obviously, I doubt they want to get pelted in the dome with one  :P

[wonderfulman]

where did the glow stick business start? i noticed it for the first time at one of the t5 shows but is there a story behind it?

I noticed the glow sticks at MSG at NYE. When the band played Librarian, you could see that Jim was completely meditated and in the zone. There were many young kids, maybe 17 years old, throwing them directly at Jim. They kept laughing every time they struck Jim or one of the other band members. I simply grabbed the kid and told him that if he throws one more glow stick, I will grab security.

[BigHerm]

I simply grabbed the kid and told him that if he throws one more glow stick, I will grab security.

Do they sell these things inside the venues? Or do people bring them in? Some people had to have 100 of them, seems like they should get security to start confiscating these.

[wonderfulman]

I simply grabbed the kid and told him that if he throws one more glow stick, I will grab security.

Do they sell these things inside the venues? Or do people bring them in? Some people had to have 100 of them, seems like they should get security to start confiscating these.

Some people bring thousands of them with them. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate on glow sticks. In fact, the glow stick war highlighted in the HOBM actually took place during Steam Engine. It was right in the heap of the Steam Engine jam and was very appropriate. Just don't throw them at the band. Do you really wanna be that asshole who stops the show because one of the guys gets their eyes poked out.

[searchinbig]

This shit seems to be happening everywhere. Here's a good article:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304803104576427723544187238.html

[oistheone]

This thread saddens me. This kind of disrespectful bullshit can be found at almost all shows. I consider myself blessed that the three shows I caught this tour had no such douche-bags -- around me at least.

I think Jacket fans should come up with a safe zone in the pit. I vote for the rail on Carl's side. I feel like only the die-hards anchor themselves there. For all three shows I attended this summer, I was within the first two rows, had a clear view of the whole band and got Carl rockin' in my face the whole night. Not to mention I had plenty of dancing room, while the Jim side was packed tight twenty-people deep.

No fan deserves to have their show ruined by dirtbags.

[lasvegas]

welcome to the big leagues.

success can be a real bitch sometimes.

unfortunately when you start gathering larger and larger groups of people together in one location for one event, these issues begin to pop up.

the n00bs have arrived.

[peafunk31]

where did the glow stick business start? i noticed it for the first time at one of the t5 shows but is there a story behind it?

The 1st time I saw a glowstick war was The Great Went in '97. I remember Trey commenting how cool it looked from the stage.

[smhoffmann02]

Darkglow, you are right on.  100%.  It's not a matter of you getting old - age is irrelevant. 

Most folks who go to Jacket shows are there to soak up the music and share the experience with others in a communal way.  They're peaceful people who vibe off the crowd reciprocating the love.  So, it's a real shame to see people not respecting the event - the band, the fans, and the venue for that matter.

People need to be accountable for their actions and not ruin the events for others.  In other words, respect yourself and your neighbor.  It's what Jim and the boys strive for...

[oistheone]

This shit seems to be happening everywhere. Here's a good article:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304803104576427723544187238.html

Great article. Thanks for posting.

[Tracy 2112]

Darkglow, you are right on.  100%.  It's not a matter of you getting old - age is irrelevant. 

As an old guy, I respectively disagree with this, mainly b/c it's not the old farts raising hell at shows. 10 years ago I was much more inclined to get in the krunk and mix it up, and I still do from time to time. But overall I lean towards being out of the krunk and enjoying the music and lights. I think we mellow a bit as we age, especially if you spend years going ape shit crazy at shows. Some nights, I just don't want to hassle with beer being spilled on me, cigarettes being waved in my face and feet being stepped on. As a youngster, I was down for that whenever. Not so much anymore.  :)

[JaneCool]

Most of the bad stuff that goes on at the shows (especially when in the pit) doesn't really bother me. I figure it's their loss if they want to pay good money to see a fantastic show and waste it by either getting too wasted or too busy texting, yakking with each other or whatever but I have to say the glow stick thing REALLY bothers me. What is the purpose of throwing those things to begin with much less at the band?? I forget what show it was where I saw a lot of that going on but I wanted to shove those things right up the asses of the people throwing them, so disrespectful and STUPID.