VOTE - Best Setlist of the Summer Tour

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Penny Lane

Quote from: ericm on Aug 31, 2011, 11:17 AM
1) Red Rocks
2) Philly

X2

Red Rocks:  Strangulation + Red Rocks + Jim stopping the show + HOTBM dancer
Philly:  Phone Went West + Cobra + Given to Fly's run thru + great pit section

*honorable mention Indi or C-bus
but come on...there's nothing sexy about poop. Nothing.  -bbill


Sticky Icky Green Stuff

Quote from: e_wind on Aug 31, 2011, 11:56 AM
Michigan show was good setlist, if PWW wouldn't have gotten cut, I would say it was the best (still other than Red Rocks).

this.

1. Victory Dance
2. Circuital
3. You Wanna Freak Out
4. Off The Record
5. I'm Amazed
6. Anytime
7. Lowdown
8. Wonderful (The Way I Feel)
9. Slow Slow Tune
10. Lay Low
11. Dondante
12. Gideon
13. Smokin From Shootin
14. (end of) Run Thru
15. First Light
16. Touch me I'm Going To Scream Pt.2
17. Touch me I'm Going To Scream Pt.1
18. War Begun
----------
19. Wordless Chorus
20. The Day Is Coming
21. Stop Draggin My Heart Around (Tom Petty & Stevie Nicks) *
22. Holdin On To Black Metal
23. One Big Holiday


* w/ Neko Case 

jaye

Quote from: e_wind on Aug 31, 2011, 12:09 PM


The Bear into Steam (awesome rare song into my fave song ever)
Steam and DoDonndante (somewhat rare for this tour)
Honest Man, Strangulation, The Bear (3 rarities)


This sounds amazing.   

So I need to pick two - Red Rocks and Oakland.

Oakland had PWW, Steam, Dondante, O is the one, Dancefloors, Anytime - M Ward and PHJB!!   

Philly though....Cobra, Lay Low, PWW, Stop Draggin...  I think I need to pick three.

lil sis

Red Rocks
Philly
Kahbang

Red Rocks is definately #1 to me for a few reasons:

1. never heard the bear live--announced before the show to ky, ericm and ynwa that this was really the only song I would want to hear and what better place to hear it
2. the bear right into steam....HOLY FUCKING SHIT
3. starting Dondante in the MIDDLE with a funky jam and then going into the beginning of song
4. STRANGULATION...another one that I've never heard live... blew.my.mind
5. Honest Man

I have some serious post-RedRocks/JacketFestWest blues  :'(
"There's still time for you to change your mind or whatever else you do."

Sweet Nothing

Quote from: iLikeBeer on Aug 31, 2011, 12:38 PM
Quote from: e_wind on Aug 31, 2011, 12:34 PM
they played it in indi i think

Yes they did:

http://www.archive.org/download/http://www.archive.org/details/mmj2011-08-07


Indy setlist:

01. Victory Dance>
02. Circuital>
03. Off The Record
04. I'm Amazed
05. Gideon
06. Outta My System
07. Golden
08. Carried Away
09. You Wanna Freak Out
10. Mahgeetah
11. First Light
12. Slow Slow Tune
13. X-mas Curtain
14. Dondante
15. Smokin From Shootin>
16. End of Run Thru>
17. Touch me I'm Going To Scream Pt.2>
18. Movin Away>
19. Phone Went West
----------
20. Wordless Chorus
21. The Day Is Coming
22. Holdin On To Black Metal
23. One Big Holiday>
24. Outro

How was moving away into PWW cause i heard a few people mention that those songs should be played back to back as they thought they go together well, both slower MMJ songs and i like both of them.  I believe that was what a few other people had mentioned in some other thread that they would have liked to have heard these songs played back to back and it looks as though they did in indy.  Curious to know anyones input to these songs being played back to back, how was it if you saw the show live or is there a recording of these songs?  Looks as though that they went right from Movin Away into Phone Went West judging on the > symbol that is, wondering how the transition was and also how these songs sounded back to back? 

Have to view all of the set lists before i can make an opinion as to which set list or lists looked the best on paper.  Will post my opinion after i do that.  Anyone going to make it overseas to see MMJ?

Jahmazed

Quote from: lil sis on Aug 31, 2011, 08:18 PM
Red Rocks
Philly
Kahbang

Red Rocks is definately #1 to me for a few reasons:

1. never heard the bear live--announced before the show to ky, ericm and ynwa that this was really the only song I would want to hear and what better place to hear it
2. the bear right into steam....HOLY FUCKING SHIT
3. starting Dondante in the MIDDLE with a funky jam and then going into the beginning of song
4. STRANGULATION...another one that I've never heard live... blew.my.mind
5. Honest Man

I have some serious post-RedRocks/JacketFestWest blues  :'(

It's tough to top that list!  Kahbang was probably one of the most most unique set lists  of the tour.  The acoustic aspect made it a memorable show for sure, but it was a short set with no encore, so even though I'm glad I caught the show in my opinion the kahbang set list can't compete with RR, Oakland or Philly. 

iLikeBeer

Quote from: Sweet Nothing on Aug 31, 2011, 11:29 PM
How was moving away into PWW cause i heard a few people mention that those songs should be played back to back as they thought they go together well, both slower MMJ songs and i like both of them.  I believe that was what a few other people had mentioned in some other thread that they would have liked to have heard these songs played back to back and it looks as though they did in indy.  Curious to know anyones input to these songs being played back to back, how was it if you saw the show live or is there a recording of these songs? 

Sweet,

The link in my post above is to the Internet Archive recording of this show so if you want to listen to the show, follow the link.

Cheers.  :beer:

kydiddle

Of course everyone is going to pick the shows they went to! Ha.

So best setlist of the shows I saw:

1) Red Rocks. You can't argue with this one. It had all the big tunes and that Bear>Steam Engine is a force to be reckoned with. The songs flowed so well into each other. Seamless show. Perfection.

And my favorite setlist of the shows I didn't get to (meaning, when I saw it posted I made a little noise in my throat at how sweet it looked):

1) Meadow Brook! Anytime? Lay Low? Lowdown? Touch Me Parts 1 & 2? War Begun. C'mon...
Cow temperature.

Schmokenvontoken

I'd go with Red Rocks for the Song Selection (the Bear) and Oakland for the guest appearances, and more specifically O is the One, good god is that song grand live. Okonokos version is mind blowing.  Michigan looked great, very similiar to the show i went to in Milwaukee, except War Begun, oh so good of a song as well.  Chicago was also pretty great one as well. The Auditorium, not Lolla. Very similiar to the one I saw except they got Honest Man, Anytime, and probably my personal favorite rare song cameo, Where to Begin-> Ruckus FtW

In the end, there is no way of running away from my biased of being mind-blown front row, no gate, elbows on the stage, and under an influence or two w/ Yim Shredding the solos, sweatin right over my noggin' front and center... oh me oh my

That said, put yourself in my shoes with some of these short but sweet HD clips and the Milwaukee show is right up there with any show this summer. Not to mention the key factor in them coming off two weeks where they played a super mild festi-circuit and had a full week in between Bonnaroo and here, so the energy was literally off the charts. Steam Engine, Dondante, and OBH literally seemed to never end until the train came to a screeching, earth's axis-altering kaBOOM*

1. Victory Dance->http://youtu.be/HjNtQrRVM64
2. Circuital
3. The Day Is Coming
4. Wordless Chorus
5. Off The Record->http://youtu.be/1bymHUpBPO0
6. Gideon
7. The Way That He Sings
8. Heartbreakin Man
9. Wonderful (The Way I Feel) w/ Daniel Martin Moore http://youtu.be/Y8Gvc7XsdCg
10. Outta My System
11. First Light
12. Lay Low -
13. Old September Blues
14. Slow Slow Tune
15. Steam Engine
16. Movin Away
17. You Wanna Freak Out
18. What A Wonderful Man
19. Holdin On To Black Metal
20. Mahgeetah
----------
21. Dondante
22. Smokin From Shootin
23. (end of) Run Thru
24. Touch Me I'm Going To Scream Pt.2
25. One Big Holiday

Special Guest:
Daniel Martin Moore
^^ this does not include the fact that during the opener with DMM-> Tom played bass the whole time.  Carl came out for the 2nd song and stayed on the Pedal Steel. Bo came out as well, then last but not least i believe Yim came out on the third song I think, and played Banjitar and sang harmony, followed by Patrick who walks out barefoot as always and rips up this dinky 3 piece drum set that was already out there.  Sooooo grand.  Please someone vouch for how surprising and soothing their presence was BEFORE the actual concert even started.
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[url=http://youtu.be/GhgQN64ynPw]http://youtu.be/GhgQN64ynPw

-Key Highlights for me
http://www.archive.org/details/mmj2000-07-07.aud.flac16

-Started with 3 Circuital Tracks.
-Set off the excitement with 4 of their best known tracks.
-Literally infiltrated my brain with 'Heartbreakin Man' (those drums and hums with the sound they have these days, was just phenomenal.
-Wonderful should be heard be everyone live.  The audience choir on the chorus was a spiritual experience if there ever was one.  Just before, Yim was rambling on about how The Riverside Theatre reminded him of the last scene at the end of the world in 2001 a Space Odyssey.  And anyone who saw UNSTAGED knows what DMM adds to the mix.
-Two more Circuital Tracks
-BOOOOOOM -> FULL LAY LOW IN OUR FACES for 7 mind-melting minutes
HD Solo Videos
http://youtu.be/FxPdPCIJgxc
http://youtu.be/uafrKzjcgyQ
-^^ so mind melting in-fact that everyone ran off stage, leaving Jim and Carl to mixdown a soulful rendition of 'Old September Blues'

The ending of the first set was one blurr of godliness
*Slow Slow is sooooo goood live. That piercing solo and stop they do in that song spikes your senses so intimately, I don't know even know how to describe it.
*Literally a locomotive by the name "Soooooooooooo" came crashing out of tunnel Slow Slow ended in... Steam Engine was sooo packed full of emotion and improv- unlike anything i had ever heard.
->Brought us back to earth with 'Moving Away'  and then right up off our feet again with the 9th Circuital track of the night, 'You Wanna Freak'

WHAT A WONDERFUL SURPRISE IT WAS! I didn't know so much guitar riffage could be packed into a barely 3 minute song, but lord almighty was I mistaken.

HOLDING ON TO BLACK METAL-> All of Circuital displayed and caressed like loyal lover
*8 Minutes of MAHGETAAAAAAHHH MADDNESS.  They kept running through it and I felt like they stopped the song completely a good 3 times before they kept going until they left the stage completely. I legitimately was convinced the show was over because I wasn't sure could be anymore energy left in the building, but the power of the collective unconscious prevailed and we were blessed with them opening up with Patrick shaking the special stick that signals Dondante's arrival in the atmosphere. 
http://youtu.be/RMMJoOYLKCU
Did I mention this song never ended? It still plays in my head to this day.
Did I mention there were an excess lights of sensational screens? Holy Shit those things violated my personal space on more than one occasion and Dondante was a prime example. 

Then the now predictable but ever-enjoyable Smokin' Medley which I could listen to on repeat and be none the wiser of unsatisfaction. 

Twas One Big Holiday indeed. I have a bunch of pics and video from that occasion that I am not quite certain how to embed on here.  I'll upload some stuff to the tube of you's and link it.
http://youtu.be/3uQgXHqBlJw

Sorry the Clips were so short. was trying to dance and groove the whole time*
Hope you enjoyed my shoes, come by anytime. cos' anytime is a good time to move on :)
-
There will be Bigotry and Open Minds*
There will be days of Peace~
I hope you have the Time^

Sticky Icky Green Stuff

alright I need to state my case.  Meadow Brook isn't getting enough credit.  let's break down why it's better than red rocks.

Red Rocks
1. Victory Dance
2. Circuital
3. Off The Record
4. I'm Amazed
5. Gideon
6. Lay Low
7. Outta My System
8. Wonderful (The Way I Feel)
9. The Bear
10. Steam Engine
11. First Light
12. Honest Man
13. Golden
14. Slow Slow Tune
15. Dondante
16. Smokin From Shootin
17. (end of) Run Thru
18. Strangulation
19. Touch me I'm Going To Scream Pt.2
20. Mahgeetah
----------
21. Wordless Chorus
22. Holdin On To Black Metal
23. Anytime
24. One Big Holiday

Vs.

Meadow Brook
1. Victory Dance->
2. Circuital
3. You Wanna Freak Out
4. Off The Record
5. I'm Amazed
6. Anytime
7. Lowdown
8. Wonderful (The Way I Feel) (acapella/no acoustic)
9. Slow Slow Tune
10. Lay Low->Jam->
11. Dondante->
12. Gideon
13. Smokin From Shootin->
14. (end of) Run Thru->
15. First Light->
16. Touch me I'm Going To Scream Pt.2->
17. Touch me I'm Going To Scream Pt.1
18. War Begun
----------
19. Wordless Chorus
20. The Day Is Coming
21. Stop Draggin My Heart Around (Tom Petty & Stevie Nicks) *
22. Holdin On To Black Metal
23. One Big Holiday


Red Rocks Critical Breakdown:
cons of red rocks:
-at red rocks you have the predictable 5 song intro VD->Circuital->Off The Record->I'm Amazed->Gideon.  that's 5 straight songs of not sweeter than meadow brook and it's only just begun.   

-and you got stink bombed with Outta My System & Golden. 

-red rocks only got a 4 song encore, tho they received 24songs instead of 23.

pros:
-The Bear, Steam Engine, Honest Man, Strangulation

-It was at red rocks

Meadow Brook Critical Breakdown:
cons:
-They scratched Phone Went West off because of time constraints

pros:
-I was there.

-VD->Circuital->You Wanna Freak Out = great way to start a show.

-we did not get Outta of My System OR Golden at this show.  talk about rare

-Lowdown, Wonderful (Acapella), Lay Low->Jam->Dondante, War Begun Closer, Touch pt 1 after pt 2.  Stop Draggin My Heart Around debut w/neko.

-5 song encore.

it's a tough one, you be the judge fans:

My Morning Jacket. "War Begun" - Detroit, MI 8/16/11

but for the record, my show was better than yours

e_wind

1. Outta My System was killer at some shows this tour, and Golden > Wonderful.
2. YWFO was somewhat normal for a 3rd song this tour.
3. Strangulation > War Begun
4. Steam Engine > No Steam Engine.
5. Mahgeetah > No Mahgeetah



sorry  :(
don't rock bottom, just listen just slow down...

Sticky Icky Green Stuff

Quote from: e_wind on Sep 01, 2011, 11:14 PM
1. Outta My System was killer at the last two shows I went to, and Golden > Wonderful.
2. I've seen YWFO played as a 3rd song twice.
3. Strangulation > War Begun
4. Steam Engine > No Steam Engine.


sorry  :(

strangulation makes me want to cut myself.

Crispy

Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Sep 01, 2011, 11:19 PM
Quote from: e_wind on Sep 01, 2011, 11:14 PM
1. Outta My System was killer at the last two shows I went to, and Golden > Wonderful.
2. I've seen YWFO played as a 3rd song twice.
3. Strangulation > War Begun
4. Steam Engine > No Steam Engine.


sorry  :(

strangulation makes me want to cut myself.

...in the most uplifting way possible.
"...it's gonna be great -- I mean me coming back with the band and playing all those hits again"

iLikeBeer

Quote from: e_wind on Sep 01, 2011, 11:14 PM
1. Outta My System was killer at some shows this tour, and Golden > Wonderful. 2. YWFO was somewhat normal for a 3rd song this tour.
3. Strangulation > War Begun
4. Steam Engine > No Steam Engine.
5. Mahgeetah > No Mahgeetah



sorry  :(

Not an acapella Wonderful where Jim shrugs off the roadie trying to give him his guitar!   8)

Also, you forgot this on your list of what was greater than that:

Lowdown

Pretty epic version of that tune if you ask me...  :thumbsup:

mahg33ta

so I took a peekie at this Red Rocks vs Meadow Brook since I wasn't at either.

16 songs were similar - crossing those out leaves 8 unique at RR vs 7 at MB.

I have to say, for ME, I'd give the nod to Red Rocks.   Steam Engine, Honest Man, Strangulation are a threesome of big, long classics vs just War Begun.     Love me The Bear any time it shows up.   And no Mahgeetah, while that's no rarity, seems.... wrong.   I just sat through a no magheetah show in Philly (which, by the way, had it been played, would have put that setlist in competition)

Both shows look great on paper, so not bashing on MB.   Would have taken that over Boston in a minute!

Sticky Icky Green Stuff

Quote from: iLikeBeer on Sep 02, 2011, 11:31 AM
Quote from: e_wind on Sep 01, 2011, 11:14 PM
1. Outta My System was killer at some shows this tour, and Golden > Wonderful. 2. YWFO was somewhat normal for a 3rd song this tour.
3. Strangulation > War Begun
4. Steam Engine > No Steam Engine.
5. Mahgeetah > No Mahgeetah



sorry  :(

Not an acapella Wonderful where Jim shrugs off the roadie trying to give him his guitar!   8)

Also, you forgot this on your list of what was greater than that:

Lowdown

Pretty epic version of that tune if you ask me...  :thumbsup:

thank god you were there matt.  I'm leaning towards meadow brook as the better set on paper still, fuck these red rock chumps.

Sticky Icky Green Stuff

Quote from: Crispy on Sep 02, 2011, 08:32 AM
Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Sep 01, 2011, 11:19 PM
Quote from: e_wind on Sep 01, 2011, 11:14 PM
1. Outta My System was killer at the last two shows I went to, and Golden > Wonderful.
2. I've seen YWFO played as a 3rd song twice.
3. Strangulation > War Begun
4. Steam Engine > No Steam Engine.


sorry  :(

strangulation makes me want to cut myself.

...in the most uplifting way possible.

strangulation is tight and everything, but better than war begun?  please.   ::)

Sticky Icky Green Stuff

Quote from: mahg33ta on Sep 02, 2011, 02:04 PM
so I took a peekie at this Red Rocks vs Meadow Brook since I wasn't at either.

16 songs were similar - crossing those out leaves 8 unique at RR vs 7 at MB.

I have to say, for ME, I'd give the nod to Red Rocks.   Steam Engine, Honest Man, Strangulation are a threesome of big, long classics vs just War Begun.     Love me The Bear any time it shows up.   And no Mahgeetah, while that's no rarity, seems.... wrong.   I just sat through a no magheetah show in Philly (which, by the way, had it been played, would have put that setlist in competition)

Both shows look great on paper, so not bashing on MB.   Would have taken that over Boston in a minute!

see this is where I really disagree.  Mahgeetah has become a staple.  I've seen it almost every show I've been to.  Steam Engine is another one that's really not all that rare this tour.  I'm glad it's being played but not really too bummed I didn't get it at meadow brook show. 

lowdown, war begun, and lay low->dondante is what this shit's all about.  I'm trying to tell you nay sayers the lay low->dondante was nutty.  they've been killing dondante this tour tho, but that lay low was DIFFERENT.  it wasn't a normal interchange at all.  the jam could have been "Self-Hypnosis" series worthy almost.  maybe I was just wasted but it was a jam of jams.  it was it's own thing.  a pure improv jam sandwiched between two of their best songs is worth bonus points.  the Wonderful blows red rocks wonderful away, no way around that.  instead of a 4 minute strangulation we got a 7minute war begun.  instead of a standard honest man we got a jammed out lowdown.  the only thing I'm jealous about is the bear.  if we had the bear or pww this thread would be over already.

e_wind

I thought we were talking on paper? If we aren't talking on paper we can only argue what we saw not what we didn't experience. It's an conversation that can never end because no one was at either.

Strangulation is an 8 minute song also...
don't rock bottom, just listen just slow down...