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Fully

Here's an article bashing choosing MMJ for Vanderbilt. The guy wants to have Tiesto instead. Douche.

http://www.insidevandy.com/drupal/node/17967

Tracy 2112


(0:07 check out the fireworks)

FIREWORKS!

(0:11- Yeah, that was a light-up ferris wheel)

A

LIGHT-UP

FERRIS

(mother fucking)

WHEEL!!

(1:32- Light up dresses: clutch)

CLUTCH!

(2:30- Yes, that girl was waving at you)

O M G ! !   :o :o :o :o



(2:56- note the confetti)

OH, IT'S ON NOW!

I'll bring the glowsticks.
Be the cliché you want to see in the world.

johnnYYac

Sounds like he'd prefer Ringling Bros.

P.S. the article ends with a link to the author's email address... just sayin'  ::)

The fact that my heart's beating is all the proof you need.

slappymoe

Quote from: johnnYYac on Sep 30, 2011, 12:14 PM
Sounds like he'd prefer Ringling Bros.

P.S. the article ends with a link to the author's email address... just sayin'  ::)
well, i decided to give him my 2 cents.  i apologize for blatantly stealing your ringling bros remark. :dankk2:

a DJ?  what a bizarre world we live in......

"Give me lasers and neon and glowing awesomeness. "

so, you're saying that music is pretty far down on you list of requirements for a good concert, right?  as long as there's a beat, along with some bright lights and loud noises and lasers and confetti and stuff, it's all good.    you're obviously a bright young man, but you suffer from the same malady as many in your age group: you've confused hip-hop/techno with actual music.   they have nothing to do with each other.

my morning jacket is 5 world-class musicians live, playing instuments and singing.......a rock concert.

that video is nothing more than an oversized rave at the club.   programmed synths and drum machines.     

do yourself a favor.  expand your horizons. try to develop an appreciation for musicianship and songwriting.  go to the show, watch the band (don't spend the entire show chatting with your buds).    if you still think they were a bad choice afterward, you can always find the nearest carnival midway or maybe the ringling bros circus to get your fix of bright lights and loud noises.   



EasyRyder

Quote from: slappymoe on Sep 30, 2011, 03:09 PM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Sep 30, 2011, 12:14 PM
Sounds like he'd prefer Ringling Bros.

P.S. the article ends with a link to the author's email address... just sayin'  ::)
well, i decided to give him my 2 cents.  i apologize for blatantly stealing your ringling bros remark. :dankk2:

a DJ?  what a bizarre world we live in......

"Give me lasers and neon and glowing awesomeness. "

so, you're saying that music is pretty far down on you list of requirements for a good concert, right?  as long as there's a beat, along with some bright lights and loud noises and lasers and confetti and stuff, it's all good.    you're obviously a bright young man, but you suffer from the same malady as many in your age group: you've confused hip-hop/techno with actual music.   they have nothing to do with each other.

my morning jacket is 5 world-class musicians live, playing instuments and singing.......a rock concert.

that video is nothing more than an oversized rave at the club.   programmed synths and drum machines.     

do yourself a favor.  expand your horizons. try to develop an appreciation for musicianship and songwriting.  go to the show, watch the band (don't spend the entire show chatting with your buds).    if you still think they were a bad choice afterward, you can always find the nearest carnival midway or maybe the ringling bros circus to get your fix of bright lights and loud noises.

:thumbsup: Well done! Delightfully pointed, yet tasteful.
"As citizens of eternity we ought to be without anxiety."

BigHerm

Quote from: slappymoe on Sep 30, 2011, 03:09 PM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Sep 30, 2011, 12:14 PM
Sounds like he'd prefer Ringling Bros.

P.S. the article ends with a link to the author's email address... just sayin'  ::)
well, i decided to give him my 2 cents.  i apologize for blatantly stealing your ringling bros remark. :dankk2:

a DJ?  what a bizarre world we live in......

"Give me lasers and neon and glowing awesomeness. "

so, you're saying that music is pretty far down on you list of requirements for a good concert, right?  as long as there's a beat, along with some bright lights and loud noises and lasers and confetti and stuff, it's all good.    you're obviously a bright young man, but you suffer from the same malady as many in your age group: you've confused hip-hop/techno with actual music.   they have nothing to do with each other.

my morning jacket is 5 world-class musicians live, playing instuments and singing.......a rock concert.

that video is nothing more than an oversized rave at the club.   programmed synths and drum machines.     

do yourself a favor.  expand your horizons. try to develop an appreciation for musicianship and songwriting.  go to the show, watch the band (don't spend the entire show chatting with your buds).    if you still think they were a bad choice afterward, you can always find the nearest carnival midway or maybe the ringling bros circus to get your fix of bright lights and loud noises.
Nice.

Would've only added a joke about their football team for good measure.


Tracy 2112

Quote from: BigHerm on Sep 30, 2011, 05:05 PM
Quote from: slappymoe on Sep 30, 2011, 03:09 PM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Sep 30, 2011, 12:14 PM
Sounds like he'd prefer Ringling Bros.

P.S. the article ends with a link to the author's email address... just sayin'  ::)
well, i decided to give him my 2 cents.  i apologize for blatantly stealing your ringling bros remark. :dankk2:

a DJ?  what a bizarre world we live in......

"Give me lasers and neon and glowing awesomeness. "

so, you're saying that music is pretty far down on you list of requirements for a good concert, right?  as long as there's a beat, along with some bright lights and loud noises and lasers and confetti and stuff, it's all good.    you're obviously a bright young man, but you suffer from the same malady as many in your age group: you've confused hip-hop/techno with actual music.   they have nothing to do with each other.

my morning jacket is 5 world-class musicians live, playing instuments and singing.......a rock concert.

that video is nothing more than an oversized rave at the club.   programmed synths and drum machines.     

do yourself a favor.  expand your horizons. try to develop an appreciation for musicianship and songwriting.  go to the show, watch the band (don't spend the entire show chatting with your buds).    if you still think they were a bad choice afterward, you can always find the nearest carnival midway or maybe the ringling bros circus to get your fix of bright lights and loud noises.
Nice.

Would've only added a joke about their football team for good measure.

Something tells me James ain't a big football fan...
Be the cliché you want to see in the world.

Fully

Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Sep 30, 2011, 06:51 PM
Quote from: BigHerm on Sep 30, 2011, 05:05 PM
Quote from: slappymoe on Sep 30, 2011, 03:09 PM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Sep 30, 2011, 12:14 PM
Sounds like he'd prefer Ringling Bros.

P.S. the article ends with a link to the author's email address... just sayin'  ::)
well, i decided to give him my 2 cents.  i apologize for blatantly stealing your ringling bros remark. :dankk2:

a DJ?  what a bizarre world we live in......

"Give me lasers and neon and glowing awesomeness. "

so, you're saying that music is pretty far down on you list of requirements for a good concert, right?  as long as there's a beat, along with some bright lights and loud noises and lasers and confetti and stuff, it's all good.    you're obviously a bright young man, but you suffer from the same malady as many in your age group: you've confused hip-hop/techno with actual music.   they have nothing to do with each other.

my morning jacket is 5 world-class musicians live, playing instuments and singing.......a rock concert.

that video is nothing more than an oversized rave at the club.   programmed synths and drum machines.     

do yourself a favor.  expand your horizons. try to develop an appreciation for musicianship and songwriting.  go to the show, watch the band (don't spend the entire show chatting with your buds).    if you still think they were a bad choice afterward, you can always find the nearest carnival midway or maybe the ringling bros circus to get your fix of bright lights and loud noises.
Nice.

Would've only added a joke about their football team for good measure.

Something tells me James ain't a big football fan...
Ya think? He must not be into bears either.

rusty95

Shit, I forgot to set the video to the highest quality that my computer could handle.  That's probably the reason that video sucked. 
Y'all got any disco ball back there?

Sweet Nothing

Quote from: rusty95 on Oct 01, 2011, 06:24 PM
Shit, I forgot to set the video to the highest quality that my computer could handle.  That's probably the reason that video sucked.

Lol, and the fact that the video/song isn't that great and i remember going over to watch the end of tiesto's set after that sick 3 1/2 to 4 hour set that MMJ had at 'Roo '08!!  The highlight of the end of tiesto's set was seeing these guys dressed up as the Ghost Busters and the people searching and looking on the ground after the show for anything they could find on the floor/ground.  Remember one lucky person finding something(hmm wonder what it was?)  MMJ is a totally different genre of music and a better one in my opinion.   

EasyRyder

Aside from all of the negativity surrounding the circumstances of this show, I'm pretty pumped to see a show in Carl's current home-base and the potential of hearing Carried Away for the first time.

Any chance of the Nashville horns showing up a'la Bonnaroo??

"As citizens of eternity we ought to be without anxiety."

Fully

Quote from: EasyRyder on Oct 02, 2011, 05:28 PM
Aside from all of the negativity surrounding the circumstances of this show, I'm pretty pumped to see a show in Carl's current home-base and the potential of hearing Carried Away for the first time.

Any chance of the Nashville horns showing up a'la Bonnaroo??

You know, I am too. I'm happy that I don't have to stay in a hotel or camp out in a refugee camp (bonnaroo) to get to see my favorite band Hell, I'll even endure Trey Songz for them. I do, however, wonder if the entire Songz family will show up to see their baby perform. Perhaps just Mrs. Songz.

e_wind

Quote from: EasyRyder on Oct 02, 2011, 05:28 PM
Aside from all of the negativity surrounding the circumstances of this show, I'm pretty pumped to see a show in Carl's current home-base and the potential of hearing Carried Away for the first time.

Any chance of the Nashville horns showing up a'la Bonnaroo??

They played Carried Away last year in Nashville. I am also hoping to see this tune again, it's been awhile.
don't rock bottom, just listen just slow down...

Ruckus

Quote from: slappymoe on Sep 30, 2011, 03:09 PM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Sep 30, 2011, 12:14 PM
Sounds like he'd prefer Ringling Bros.

P.S. the article ends with a link to the author's email address... just sayin'  ::)
well, i decided to give him my 2 cents.  i apologize for blatantly stealing your ringling bros remark. :dankk2:

a DJ?  what a bizarre world we live in......

"Give me lasers and neon and glowing awesomeness. "

so, you're saying that music is pretty far down on you list of requirements for a good concert, right?  as long as there's a beat, along with some bright lights and loud noises and lasers and confetti and stuff, it's all good.    you're obviously a bright young man, but you suffer from the same malady as many in your age group: you've confused hip-hop/techno with actual music.   they have nothing to do with each other.

my morning jacket is 5 world-class musicians live, playing instuments and singing.......a rock concert.

that video is nothing more than an oversized rave at the club.   programmed synths and drum machines.     


do yourself a favor.  expand your horizons. try to develop an appreciation for musicianship and songwriting.  go to the show, watch the band (don't spend the entire show chatting with your buds).    if you still think they were a bad choice afterward, you can always find the nearest carnival midway or maybe the ringling bros circus to get your fix of bright lights and loud noises.

I never understood this antiquated, patronizing perspective on certain spheres of modern music.  Let's just get this out of the way.  Hip hop IS music.  Electronic (whatever you want to call it) IS music.  It's just not what you want it to be.  Music is whatever the listener gleans from their auditory experience and deems it as such.

I'm no music historian but I do know the earliest forms of music were rooted in basic rhythms, easy to create from your surroundings.  It got people to dance, really dance.  I too like to dance.  This was before the invention of the guitar, something that apparently is a necessity now for music to be considered real music. 

Now it wasn't too long ago that rock n' roll wasn't music.  Next up it was heavy metal that wasn't music, etc.

Funny thing is that you are completely dismissive of the musical and rhythmic ability required to produce a hip hop track or to rap over it.  Perhaps this is delving into music technology relativism but why do you draw the line where you do?  Guitars used to just be a hollow bodied acoustic.  Now you have every manner of effects boards that can create an infinite amount of sounds.  Forget about the limitless sounds of a modern keyboard (sound computer).  You don't mind that Lay Low is a preprogrammed drum beat, vocals are dubbed in on Wordless and Steam Engine and Highly Suspicious (all their killer live tunes).  We won't even get into HOTBM.

When you go see Carl play a solo show, he loops track after track.  Is it really exciting to watch him pluck a Gm chord for 8 measures than step on a pedal so that he can start noodling an octave up for another 8 measures only to step on a pedal again?  Guess what a modern dj/producer does.  He does that beforehand so all we get is a slamming track.  Yet I get to hear people fawning over how awesome looping is.  Yey, Keller Williams was cool 15 years ago.

There are myriad reasons for why this form of music has taken off.  One factor is socioeconomic.  Many American bands are products of suburbia.  Why?  Let's see, more space, more money.  Kids in the city sharing an apartment with 6 family members aren't going to have people over to jam with instruments they can't afford.  But hey, you don't need a penny to rhyme over a dude beatboxing.

I'd go on and on.  You don' have to like but don't denigrate what you don't like and choose not to understand.  Some of the best shows I've ever been to have been hip hop shows.

Just as a compromise, check out some old school Roots or K-0s.  They got more musicianship than 99% of the singer/songwriters or rock bands out there.
Can You Put Your Soft Helmet On My Head

e_wind

Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 03, 2011, 01:53 PM
Quote from: slappymoe on Sep 30, 2011, 03:09 PM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Sep 30, 2011, 12:14 PM
Sounds like he'd prefer Ringling Bros.

P.S. the article ends with a link to the author's email address... just sayin'  ::)
well, i decided to give him my 2 cents.  i apologize for blatantly stealing your ringling bros remark. :dankk2:

a DJ?  what a bizarre world we live in......

"Give me lasers and neon and glowing awesomeness. "

so, you're saying that music is pretty far down on you list of requirements for a good concert, right?  as long as there's a beat, along with some bright lights and loud noises and lasers and confetti and stuff, it's all good.    you're obviously a bright young man, but you suffer from the same malady as many in your age group: you've confused hip-hop/techno with actual music.   they have nothing to do with each other.

my morning jacket is 5 world-class musicians live, playing instuments and singing.......a rock concert.

that video is nothing more than an oversized rave at the club.   programmed synths and drum machines.     


do yourself a favor.  expand your horizons. try to develop an appreciation for musicianship and songwriting.  go to the show, watch the band (don't spend the entire show chatting with your buds).    if you still think they were a bad choice afterward, you can always find the nearest carnival midway or maybe the ringling bros circus to get your fix of bright lights and loud noises.

I never understood this antiquated, patronizing perspective on certain spheres of modern music.  Let's just get this out of the way.  Hip hop IS music.  Electronic (whatever you want to call it) IS music.  It's just not what you want it to be.  Music is whatever the listener gleans from their auditory experience and deems it as such.

I'm no music historian but I do know the earliest forms of music were rooted in basic rhythms, easy to create from your surroundings.  It got people to dance, really dance.  I too like to dance.  This was before the invention of the guitar, something that apparently is a necessity now for music to be considered real music. 

Now it wasn't too long ago that rock n' roll wasn't music.  Next up it was heavy metal that wasn't music, etc.

Funny thing is that you are completely dismissive of the musical and rhythmic ability required to produce a hip hop track or to rap over it.  Perhaps this is delving into music technology relativism but why do you draw the line where you do?  Guitars used to just be a hollow bodied acoustic.  Now you have every manner of effects boards that can create an infinite amount of sounds.  Forget about the limitless sounds of a modern keyboard (sound computer).  You don't mind that Lay Low is a preprogrammed drum beat, vocals are dubbed in on Wordless and Steam Engine and Highly Suspicious (all their killer live tunes).  We won't even get into HOTBM.

When you go see Carl play a solo show, he loops track after track.  Is it really exciting to watch him pluck a Gm chord for 8 measures than step on a pedal so that he can start noodling an octave up for another 8 measures only to step on a pedal again?  Guess what a modern dj/producer does.  He does that beforehand so all we get is a slamming track.  Yet I get to hear people fawning over how awesome looping is.  Yey, Keller Williams was cool 15 years ago.

There are myriad reasons for why this form of music has taken off.  One factor is socioeconomic.  Many American bands are products of suburbia.  Why?  Let's see, more space, more money.  Kids in the city sharing an apartment with 6 family members aren't going to have people over to jam with instruments they can't afford.  But hey, you don't need a penny to rhyme over a dude beatboxing.

I'd go on and on.  You don' have to like but don't denigrate what you don't like and choose not to understand.  Some of the best shows I've ever been to have been hip hop shows.

Just as a compromise, check out some old school Roots or K-0s.  They got more musicianship than 99% of the singer/songwriters or rock bands out there.


I agree completely with the hip hop point of views here, Ruckus, however I disagree with half of this when it comes to electronic music. Electronic music, like Bassnectar IS music. It's original and has rythem and melody and blah blah blah. However, I don't think bassnectar live is a concert. It's literally no different than going to a dance club that has a DJ for the night. Not a concert, but a dance party.
don't rock bottom, just listen just slow down...

Ruckus

Quote from: e_wind on Oct 03, 2011, 02:01 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 03, 2011, 01:53 PM
Quote from: slappymoe on Sep 30, 2011, 03:09 PM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Sep 30, 2011, 12:14 PM
Sounds like he'd prefer Ringling Bros.

P.S. the article ends with a link to the author's email address... just sayin'  ::)
well, i decided to give him my 2 cents.  i apologize for blatantly stealing your ringling bros remark. :dankk2:

a DJ?  what a bizarre world we live in......

"Give me lasers and neon and glowing awesomeness. "

so, you're saying that music is pretty far down on you list of requirements for a good concert, right?  as long as there's a beat, along with some bright lights and loud noises and lasers and confetti and stuff, it's all good.    you're obviously a bright young man, but you suffer from the same malady as many in your age group: you've confused hip-hop/techno with actual music.   they have nothing to do with each other.

my morning jacket is 5 world-class musicians live, playing instuments and singing.......a rock concert.

that video is nothing more than an oversized rave at the club.   programmed synths and drum machines.     


do yourself a favor.  expand your horizons. try to develop an appreciation for musicianship and songwriting.  go to the show, watch the band (don't spend the entire show chatting with your buds).    if you still think they were a bad choice afterward, you can always find the nearest carnival midway or maybe the ringling bros circus to get your fix of bright lights and loud noises.

I never understood this antiquated, patronizing perspective on certain spheres of modern music.  Let's just get this out of the way.  Hip hop IS music.  Electronic (whatever you want to call it) IS music.  It's just not what you want it to be.  Music is whatever the listener gleans from their auditory experience and deems it as such.

I'm no music historian but I do know the earliest forms of music were rooted in basic rhythms, easy to create from your surroundings.  It got people to dance, really dance.  I too like to dance.  This was before the invention of the guitar, something that apparently is a necessity now for music to be considered real music. 

Now it wasn't too long ago that rock n' roll wasn't music.  Next up it was heavy metal that wasn't music, etc.

Funny thing is that you are completely dismissive of the musical and rhythmic ability required to produce a hip hop track or to rap over it.  Perhaps this is delving into music technology relativism but why do you draw the line where you do?  Guitars used to just be a hollow bodied acoustic.  Now you have every manner of effects boards that can create an infinite amount of sounds.  Forget about the limitless sounds of a modern keyboard (sound computer).  You don't mind that Lay Low is a preprogrammed drum beat, vocals are dubbed in on Wordless and Steam Engine and Highly Suspicious (all their killer live tunes).  We won't even get into HOTBM.

When you go see Carl play a solo show, he loops track after track.  Is it really exciting to watch him pluck a Gm chord for 8 measures than step on a pedal so that he can start noodling an octave up for another 8 measures only to step on a pedal again?  Guess what a modern dj/producer does.  He does that beforehand so all we get is a slamming track.  Yet I get to hear people fawning over how awesome looping is.  Yey, Keller Williams was cool 15 years ago.

There are myriad reasons for why this form of music has taken off.  One factor is socioeconomic.  Many American bands are products of suburbia.  Why?  Let's see, more space, more money.  Kids in the city sharing an apartment with 6 family members aren't going to have people over to jam with instruments they can't afford.  But hey, you don't need a penny to rhyme over a dude beatboxing.

I'd go on and on.  You don' have to like but don't denigrate what you don't like and choose not to understand.  Some of the best shows I've ever been to have been hip hop shows.

Just as a compromise, check out some old school Roots or K-0s.  They got more musicianship than 99% of the singer/songwriters or rock bands out there.


I agree completely with the hip hop point of views here, Ruckus, however I disagree with half of this when it comes to electronic music. Electronic music, like Bassnectar IS music. It's original and has rythem and melody and blah blah blah. However, I don't think bassnectar live is a concert. It's literally no different than going to a dance club that has a DJ for the night. Not a concert, but a dance party.
Well I won't nitpick about whether that is a concert or not.  I guess by definition, it is a musical performance in front of an audience.  If hitting some buttons is considered playing an instrument, it would be a concert.  Otherwise it would be an "exhibition"? ;D

I dig DJ's.  I dig good times.  I don't go into a DJ set thinking ohh man he's gonna shred!  SPeaking of which, DJ Shadow just released his 1st album in 5 years today.  Gotta check that out.  Yes his debut was nothing but samples and still one of my favorite albums of all time.  It takes a brilliant musical mind to glue together all those sounds into the pure glory that was Endtroducing
Can You Put Your Soft Helmet On My Head

johnnYYac

Quote from: Fully on Sep 30, 2011, 10:22 AM
Here's an article bashing choosing MMJ for Vanderbilt. The guy wants to have Tiesto instead. Douche.

http://www.insidevandy.com/drupal/node/17967
I think the problem here isn't the music, or dissing Tiesto, its the author thinking he'd rather have glowsticks, fireworks, and waving girls instead of a solid rock show.  I can dig the DJ thing, though I would go to a dance club, not a concert venue. 

I just hope the MMJ fans are respectful to the Trey Songz fans and vice versa.  Maybe we'll get some weird collaboration never thought possible.
The fact that my heart's beating is all the proof you need.

Tracy 2112

Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 03, 2011, 02:08 PM
Quote from: e_wind on Oct 03, 2011, 02:01 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 03, 2011, 01:53 PM
Quote from: slappymoe on Sep 30, 2011, 03:09 PM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Sep 30, 2011, 12:14 PM
Sounds like he'd prefer Ringling Bros.

P.S. the article ends with a link to the author's email address... just sayin'  ::)
well, i decided to give him my 2 cents.  i apologize for blatantly stealing your ringling bros remark. :dankk2:

a DJ?  what a bizarre world we live in......

"Give me lasers and neon and glowing awesomeness. "

so, you're saying that music is pretty far down on you list of requirements for a good concert, right?  as long as there's a beat, along with some bright lights and loud noises and lasers and confetti and stuff, it's all good.    you're obviously a bright young man, but you suffer from the same malady as many in your age group: you've confused hip-hop/techno with actual music.   they have nothing to do with each other.

my morning jacket is 5 world-class musicians live, playing instuments and singing.......a rock concert.

that video is nothing more than an oversized rave at the club.   programmed synths and drum machines.     


do yourself a favor.  expand your horizons. try to develop an appreciation for musicianship and songwriting.  go to the show, watch the band (don't spend the entire show chatting with your buds).    if you still think they were a bad choice afterward, you can always find the nearest carnival midway or maybe the ringling bros circus to get your fix of bright lights and loud noises.

I never understood this antiquated, patronizing perspective on certain spheres of modern music.  Let's just get this out of the way.  Hip hop IS music.  Electronic (whatever you want to call it) IS music.  It's just not what you want it to be.  Music is whatever the listener gleans from their auditory experience and deems it as such.

I'm no music historian but I do know the earliest forms of music were rooted in basic rhythms, easy to create from your surroundings.  It got people to dance, really dance.  I too like to dance.  This was before the invention of the guitar, something that apparently is a necessity now for music to be considered real music. 

Now it wasn't too long ago that rock n' roll wasn't music.  Next up it was heavy metal that wasn't music, etc.

Funny thing is that you are completely dismissive of the musical and rhythmic ability required to produce a hip hop track or to rap over it.  Perhaps this is delving into music technology relativism but why do you draw the line where you do?  Guitars used to just be a hollow bodied acoustic.  Now you have every manner of effects boards that can create an infinite amount of sounds.  Forget about the limitless sounds of a modern keyboard (sound computer).  You don't mind that Lay Low is a preprogrammed drum beat, vocals are dubbed in on Wordless and Steam Engine and Highly Suspicious (all their killer live tunes).  We won't even get into HOTBM.

When you go see Carl play a solo show, he loops track after track.  Is it really exciting to watch him pluck a Gm chord for 8 measures than step on a pedal so that he can start noodling an octave up for another 8 measures only to step on a pedal again?  Guess what a modern dj/producer does.  He does that beforehand so all we get is a slamming track.  Yet I get to hear people fawning over how awesome looping is.  Yey, Keller Williams was cool 15 years ago.

There are myriad reasons for why this form of music has taken off.  One factor is socioeconomic.  Many American bands are products of suburbia.  Why?  Let's see, more space, more money.  Kids in the city sharing an apartment with 6 family members aren't going to have people over to jam with instruments they can't afford.  But hey, you don't need a penny to rhyme over a dude beatboxing.

I'd go on and on.  You don' have to like but don't denigrate what you don't like and choose not to understand.  Some of the best shows I've ever been to have been hip hop shows.

Just as a compromise, check out some old school Roots or K-0s.  They got more musicianship than 99% of the singer/songwriters or rock bands out there.


I agree completely with the hip hop point of views here, Ruckus, however I disagree with half of this when it comes to electronic music. Electronic music, like Bassnectar IS music. It's original and has rythem and melody and blah blah blah. However, I don't think bassnectar live is a concert. It's literally no different than going to a dance club that has a DJ for the night. Not a concert, but a dance party.
Well I won't nitpick about whether that is a concert or not.  I guess by definition, it is a musical performance in front of an audience.  If hitting some buttons is considered playing an instrument, it would be a concert.  Otherwise it would be an "exhibition"? ;D

I dig DJ's.  I dig good times.  I don't go into a DJ set thinking ohh man he's gonna shred!  SPeaking of which, DJ Shadow just released his 1st album in 5 years today.  Gotta check that out.  Yes his debut was nothing but samples and still one of my favorite albums of all time.  It takes a brilliant musical mind to glue together all those sounds into the pure glory that was Endtroducing

Please move this discusion to the IF I HAVE TO DEFEND THAT IT'S MUSIC THEN IT MAY NOT BE MUSIC thread. thanks
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MarkW

Horses for courses.

I love Battles.  I love Andrew Bird.  Love Animal Collective.  What they do is sequenced and processed.

The guy doesn't like rock, and fair play to him.  I've done my fair share of rock / hip hop/ electronica / raves over the years, and they're all good if you're in the mood.
The trouble with the straight and the narrow is it's so thin, I keep sliding off to the side

slappymoe

Quote from: Ruckus on Oct 03, 2011, 01:53 PM
Some of the best shows I've ever been to have been hip hop shows.

i'm sure they were great shows......but they weren't concerts.

this old fart has a very strict, narrow definition of the word "music."   and i'll continue to say, until the day i die, that if it doesn't involve humans playing instuments and/or humans singing original melodies, it's ain't music.

and as for MMJ's use of taped backing tracks, i understand that jim feels some songs call for it, but i don't like it one bit.      if you feel you can't play the song well enough without pre-recorded help, don't try to play the song.  as always, there are exceptions to the rule (the who's baba o'riley and WGFA come to mind), but for the most part i abhor the use of recorded sounds in a live setting.