My Morning Jacket, let me write your setlists...

Started by Sticky Icky Green Stuff, Sep 12, 2012, 10:59 PM

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Bigsky

MMJ has to be the easiest band to write a set list for. Not only do the boys have one of the sickest library of songs to choose from, but you also have the best musicians playing them. You could have them cover a whole show of Britney Spear and it would sound better than any of these set lists...
My point is that it does not matter what they play, but how they play it.

....you have been given this gift of wisdom...it is now up to you to see what you do with it...

Sticky Icky Green Stuff

Quote from: Bigsky on Sep 14, 2012, 11:48 PM
MMJ has to be the easiest band to write a set list for. Not only do the boys have one of the sickest library of songs to choose from, but you also have the best musicians playing them. You could have them cover a whole show of Britney Spear and it would sound better than any of these set lists...
My point is that it does not matter what they play, but how they play it.

....you have been given this gift of wisdom...it is now up to you to see what you do with it...

I'm not only offended by your comment but driven to madness and insanity by it.  your absurdity of comparing britney to mmj is making me lol like a jerk off.  lol.  if they have such a bitching library, why, even when they allow the fans to help write the sets do they only play like 50songs of that catalog and even less on a regular basis?  I think it's insecurities.  bluesky I've got a browneye for ya.

Bigsky

Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Sep 15, 2012, 12:27 AM
Quote from: Bigsky on Sep 14, 2012, 11:48 PM
MMJ has to be the easiest band to write a set list for. Not only do the boys have one of the sickest library of songs to choose from, but you also have the best musicians playing them. You could have them cover a whole show of Britney Spear and it would sound better than any of these set lists...
My point is that it does not matter what they play, but how they play it.

....you have been given this gift of wisdom...it is now up to you to see what you do with it...

I'm not only offended by your comment but driven to madness and insanity by it.  your absurdity of comparing britney to mmj is making me lol like a jerk off.  lol.  if they have such a bitching library, why, even when they allow the fans to help write the sets do they only play like 50songs of that catalog and even less on a regular basis?  I think it's insecurities.  bluesky I've got a browneye for ya.

Bluesky is not me...but thanks for the honor of mistaking me for Val.

I see that your arrogance has covered your eyes...

The beauty of MMJ isn't in their setlists...but the way that they perform the setlist. The effort & skill they put into their music takes much time and perfection. If they were to try to play every single song they know...the set list would look cool on paper (as yours do), but they might not sounds as good. The reason I love these guys is because of the quality of the music, not the quality of the set list.

Sticky...no matter what I say...the only thing that matters is that MMJ kicks ass!

Sticky Icky Green Stuff

Quote from: Bigsky on Sep 15, 2012, 06:46 AM
Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Sep 15, 2012, 12:27 AM
Quote from: Bigsky on Sep 14, 2012, 11:48 PM
MMJ has to be the easiest band to write a set list for. Not only do the boys have one of the sickest library of songs to choose from, but you also have the best musicians playing them. You could have them cover a whole show of Britney Spear and it would sound better than any of these set lists...
My point is that it does not matter what they play, but how they play it.

....you have been given this gift of wisdom...it is now up to you to see what you do with it...

I'm not only offended by your comment but driven to madness and insanity by it.  your absurdity of comparing britney to mmj is making me lol like a jerk off.  lol.  if they have such a bitching library, why, even when they allow the fans to help write the sets do they only play like 50songs of that catalog and even less on a regular basis?  I think it's insecurities.  bluesky I've got a browneye for ya.

Bluesky is not me...but thanks for the honor of mistaking me for Val.

I see that your arrogance has covered your eyes...

The beauty of MMJ isn't in their setlists...but the way that they perform the setlist. The effort & skill they put into their music takes much time and perfection. If they were to try to play every single song they know...the set list would look cool on paper (as yours do), but they might not sounds as good. The reason I love these guys is because of the quality of the music, not the quality of the set list.

Sticky...no matter what I say...the only thing that matters is that MMJ kicks ass!

I'm dyslexic,  all of you guys are the same.  all the people who are opposed to descent.  they are fun musicians.  that's the key word.  fun.  if we want to get into musicianship we can but that's not the point of this thread. 

The beauty of all music is being surprised.  being setback.  this attempt to understand what said band is doing.  it's subconscious.  I have figured out the patterns of this band and they smack me in my face.  it happens, but they should be smarter than me.  I should not be able to predict their next move.  for the last couple years it's been binary as fuck.  until this tour.   they play their music really well and yeah it's hard to remember an entire catalog, but then again, that's what we pay for.  especially if they want to make it a thing to get tickets early, get backstage for "special" soundcheck things, etc. 

it's sort of a put up or shut up thing for me.  jim always talks about wanting it to be the ultimate, I think jazzfest was their lowest point in years but they're bouncing back.  they need to find some sort of consistency while not repeating or becoming a parody of themselves. 

/end rant.

Fully

I like night 2 the best. Now do it with no repeats. Let's make this a challenge. At least one Circuital song on each list. Four night include known covers.

Sticky Icky Green Stuff

Quote from: Fully on Sep 15, 2012, 05:10 PM
I like night 2 the best. Now do it with no repeats. Let's make this a challenge. At least one Circuital song on each list. Four night include known covers.

Show 1:
where to begin
I will sing you songs
touch me i'm going to scream pt. 1
circuital
I'm amazed
gideon
evil urges
wonderful
it's about twilight
first light
librarian
sweetheart
hot fun in the summertime
O is the one that is Real
death is the easy way
I think I'm going to hell
honest man
a quick one
---------
just one thing
into the woods
rock the casbah
run thru
lil billy


Show 2:
golden
rollin' back
the way that he sings
wanna freak out
knot comes loose
the dark
off the record
slow slow tune
tonight I want to celebrate with you->
blue moon
what a wonderful man
it makes no difference
two halves
old sept blues
they ran
x-mas curtian
--------------
sooner
master plan
come closer
thank you too!
steam engine


Show 3:
holdin on to black metal
outta my system
heartbreakin man
war begun
strangulation
oh sweet nuthin
aluminum park
buy my car
evelyn is not real
sec walkin'
such a pity
just because I do
touch me I'm going to scream pt. 2->
one big holiday
one in the same
--------
chills
picture of you
the day is coming
move on up
dancefloors
anytime


Show 4:

victory dance
lay low
highly suspicious
suspicious minds
low down
hopefully
phone went west
carried away
nashville to kentucky
the bear
how do you know
cobra
can you see the hard helmet on my head?
mahgeetah
easy mornin' rebel
cold sweat
------
at dawn
movin away
it beats 4 u
smokin' from shootin->
dondante
I will be there when you die

no repeats is straight up hard.  they don't have 300+songs like phish.

Fully

Night 2 - opening with Golden is a great idea, but night 3 - opening with Hot BM>Outta My System is not good. It does get them outta the way, but I think those two songs shouldn't be back to back. I really like your ending for night four though. I think it would slay the crowd.

armando

That night 4 encore would be epic. And to go from the emotion of Dondante into I Will Be There When You Die to wrap -- wow.
The fact that my heart's beating is all the proof you need.

Sticky Icky Green Stuff

Quote from: Fully on Sep 16, 2012, 01:25 AM
Night 2 - opening with Golden is a great idea, but night 3 - opening with Hot BM>Outta My System is not good. It does get them outta the way, but I think those two songs shouldn't be back to back. I really like your ending for night four though. I think it would slay the crowd.

with 4 sets of no repeats it gets hard.  you're welcome to try.

Fully

Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Sep 16, 2012, 12:19 PM
Quote from: Fully on Sep 16, 2012, 01:25 AM
Night 2 - opening with Golden is a great idea, but night 3 - opening with Hot BM>Outta My System is not good. It does get them outta the way, but I think those two songs shouldn't be back to back. I really like your ending for night four though. I think it would slay the crowd.

with 4 sets of no repeats it gets hard.  you're welcome to try.

I don't write setlists, I just judge them. That's my specialty: being all judgey. No I just wouldnot put both of those songs right beside each other. Probably because I feel very similarly about them. I would want a break from that feeling. I am ok with them while I'm hearing them, but I don't really like to hear either one of them. But I'm good with the rest of it. There, Stick, now I'm done being judgey. :wink:

Note I refrained from making a tired "that's what she said" joke. It's all about restraint.

Sticky Icky Green Stuff

Quote from: Fully on Sep 16, 2012, 12:27 PM
Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Sep 16, 2012, 12:19 PM
Quote from: Fully on Sep 16, 2012, 01:25 AM
Night 2 - opening with Golden is a great idea, but night 3 - opening with Hot BM>Outta My System is not good. It does get them outta the way, but I think those two songs shouldn't be back to back. I really like your ending for night four though. I think it would slay the crowd.

with 4 sets of no repeats it gets hard.  you're welcome to try.

I don't write setlists, I just judge them. That's my specialty: being all judgey. No I just wouldnot put both of those songs right beside each other. Probably because I feel very similarly about them. I would want a break from that feeling. I am ok with them while I'm hearing them, but I don't really like to hear either one of them. But I'm good with the rest of it. There, Stick, now I'm done being judgey. :wink:

Note I refrained from making a tired "that's what she said" joke. It's all about restraint.

well these sets aren't about what you or I like.  they're suppose to cover the gamut of fans and their different tastes.  while not using a single repeat.  you pretty much have to use every single song they've released and cram it with covers and b-sides.  I think the only songs I didn't end up using were some of the super super super slow ones.  the sets would be borderline acoustic shows if you didn't put stuff like holdin on to blackmetal or outta my system in there, which you said I had to use. 

you fans do nothing but bitch.  you're never happy.

Sticky Icky Green Stuff

also if anybody else wants to do this, it's best to do all 4shows at once, give each show a song one at a time so they're even vibe wise somewhat with rarities and rockers, then sorta re-arrange it afterwards. 

with added covers and random songs the songs only clock in at about 22songs per show.  would love to see what others come up with. 

Fully


Bigsky

"you fans do nothing but bitch.  you're never happy."

...isn't that the point of this thread?...;)

ericm

Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Sep 16, 2012, 01:27 PM
also if anybody else wants to do this, it's best to do all 4shows at once, give each show a song one at a time so they're even vibe wise somewhat with rarities and rockers, then sorta re-arrange it afterwards. 

with added covers and random songs the songs only clock in at about 22songs per show.  would love to see what others come up with.

Piece of cake. Take the T5 setlists, add in Circuital, and viola, plenty of tunes!  :wink: Creating four seperate good flowing shows is another story, but definitely enough material to work with.
"Where's Jim going?"

Fully

Quote from: Bigsky on Sep 16, 2012, 04:40 PM
"you fans do nothing but bitch.  you're never happy."

...isn't that the point of this thread?...;)

Very interesting watching this thread change directions.

Sticky Icky Green Stuff

Quote from: ericm on Sep 17, 2012, 03:29 PM
Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Sep 16, 2012, 01:27 PM
also if anybody else wants to do this, it's best to do all 4shows at once, give each show a song one at a time so they're even vibe wise somewhat with rarities and rockers, then sorta re-arrange it afterwards. 

with added covers and random songs the songs only clock in at about 22songs per show.  would love to see what others come up with.

Piece of cake. Take the T5 setlists, add in Circuital, and viola, plenty of tunes!  :wink: Creating four seperate good flowing shows is another story, but definitely enough material to work with.

not really that easy.  T5 shows seemed short in nature.  lots and lots of covers too.  those 4shows are essentially every song they've released minus the chapter 1 & 2 b-sides, butch cassidy, if all else fails, I needed it most, holy, and a couple other random tunes.  aren't jacket shows generally 24songs-ish? 

Bigsky

Quote from: Fully on Sep 17, 2012, 03:39 PM
Quote from: Bigsky on Sep 16, 2012, 04:40 PM
"you fans do nothing but bitch.  you're never happy."

...isn't that the point of this thread?...;)

Very interesting watching this thread change directions.

...I'm just trying to get SIGS to be less arrogant, but I know that's not possible...

ericm

Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Sep 17, 2012, 05:57 PM
Quote from: ericm on Sep 17, 2012, 03:29 PM
Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Sep 16, 2012, 01:27 PM
also if anybody else wants to do this, it's best to do all 4shows at once, give each show a song one at a time so they're even vibe wise somewhat with rarities and rockers, then sorta re-arrange it afterwards. 

with added covers and random songs the songs only clock in at about 22songs per show.  would love to see what others come up with.

Piece of cake. Take the T5 setlists, add in Circuital, and viola, plenty of tunes!  :wink: Creating four seperate good flowing shows is another story, but definitely enough material to work with.

not really that easy.  T5 shows seemed short in nature.  lots and lots of covers too.  those 4shows are essentially every song they've released minus the chapter 1 & 2 b-sides, butch cassidy, if all else fails, I needed it most, holy, and a couple other random tunes.  aren't jacket shows generally 24songs-ish?

Yes they are. I believe T5 was 99 songs, and figured if you add Circuital, and a couple of the covers not done there, you would have more than enough to choose from to do four shows. Like I said, getting them to work well,and flow is another story.
"Where's Jim going?"

e_wind

wait, they didn't play those TTF songs at t5?


edit: never mind, I read that wrong.



This conversation has just turned into sticky unknowingly defending the band and taking back everything he's ever said about them having shity set lists.
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