Twin Peaks (TV show)

[e_wind]

It's okay to spoil anything, at this point. I just figured out that Coopers doppleganger replaces him in the end. I'm okay with knowing that, because finishing this paper is more important. What I wish I wouldn't have read, though hope the final scene really is is that Coop sees BOB as his reflection and starts banging his head against a mirror. That in itself could say something about the success of Cooper. Even when he's inhabited by pure evil he's finding a way in which release himself from it. Though, maybe BOB is using his body in order to have him die.

PS. if im way off, just roll with it so im still surprised by the ending 

Spoiler alert for a much less awesome show - Dexter, season 4 - following:
This happened at the end of season 4 of Dexter to me. I thought that Rita died at the end, and a friend said that I was wrong after I was so sure. They said whoever said she died as fucking with me. I believed it, watched it, and thus still got to be surprised.

[MamaKel]

My Netflix subscription ended before I could see the end. So I make it up in my head. Even if I did know, I wouldn't know, y'know?

I have a tendency to do that with everything. I read 90% of a book, and never read the ending.  Or do 90% of a painting, and never finish it. I like to think of the 10% as God's share.  But perhaps according to another thread, it's Gods' share.

[Shug]

I know people talk of it as Cooper's doppleganger, but I've always preferred to think of it as his (symbolic) good and his bad sides, two halves of himself, struggling against one another.  How it comes out in the end is something I've never been sure how to interpret.  The Black Lodge is the place where he goes down to confront his dark side and see if he can come out the other side complete.  Joseph Campbell would have had a field day with Twin Peaks.  He died  a couple years before it came out.

[Shug]

Perhaps one fails in knowledge, but succeeds in soul.  It can be said that we know nothing, but cannot forget love.  Because despite the knowledge base, experiences, and opinions of every human being...they all still operate according to their relationship with love.  Even death and superstition cannot transcend it. So while Cooper may fail at these so-called 'important tasks', he maintains his relationship to the higher ideal.

This is true of Faust as well.  Though he failed continuously in his dealings with Mephistopheles, he was saved by the grace of God, for having always sought the truth.

[ManNamedTruth]

It's okay to spoil anything, at this point. I just figured out that Coopers doppleganger replaces him in the end. I'm okay with knowing that, because finishing this paper is more important. What I wish I wouldn't have read, though hope the final scene really is is that Coop sees BOB as his reflection and starts banging his head against a mirror. That in itself could say something about the success of Cooper. Even when he's inhabited by pure evil he's finding a way in which release himself from it. Though, maybe BOB is using his body in order to have him die.

PS. if im way off, just roll with it so im still surprised by the ending 

Spoiler alert for a much less awesome show - Dexter, season 4 - following:
This happened at the end of season 4 of Dexter to me. I thought that Rita died at the end, and a friend said that I was wrong after I was so sure. They said whoever said she died as fucking with me. I believed it, watched it, and thus still got to be surprised.

You should've finished watching the series before doing so much research!

[e_wind]

It's okay to spoil anything, at this point. I just figured out that Coopers doppleganger replaces him in the end. I'm okay with knowing that, because finishing this paper is more important. What I wish I wouldn't have read, though hope the final scene really is is that Coop sees BOB as his reflection and starts banging his head against a mirror. That in itself could say something about the success of Cooper. Even when he's inhabited by pure evil he's finding a way in which release himself from it. Though, maybe BOB is using his body in order to have him die.

PS. if im way off, just roll with it so im still surprised by the ending 

Spoiler alert for a much less awesome show - Dexter, season 4 - following:
This happened at the end of season 4 of Dexter to me. I thought that Rita died at the end, and a friend said that I was wrong after I was so sure. They said whoever said she died as fucking with me. I believed it, watched it, and thus still got to be surprised.

You should've finished watching the series before doing so much research!

my paper isn't technically due til December `12th, but if i turn it in Monday then Im completely done with my semester 10 days early. I'm determined.

[MamaKel]

Jim James is a big fan of the show, this was posted on the forum awhile ago. Here it is in case anyone missed it.

http://www.undertheradarmag.com/interviews/my_morning_jackets_jim_james_on_twin_peaks/

Whoa whoa whoa folks...

I cry everytime I read this. No joke. I weep like a child when I read his description of magic. It reminds me of my favorite passage of writing of all time from a Jack Kerouac novel.  And his writing...about good and evil being real, and how all of us are somewhere in the middle, which is the place to be...

BUT THE PART!!! THE KEY PART! Your mission on Earth:
GOD'S LOVE TO DELIVER!


It's like he knew all along...he knew all of it...before a word was spoken or written.

"And then I found it...or did it find me?"

Yes. As I said in another thread...God's Love To Deliver is the key to all of it.  The Grace. The Redemption. The triumph over Gods' Love...to the Kingdom of God's Love.

I think I just found that thread of magic that ripped open the cosmos...funny thing is, it was the thread I started sewing with...

[MamaKel]

http://kerouacsquest.wordpress.com/works/tristessa/
This is when Jack goes to Mexico City and falls in love with a Mexican prostitute named Tristessa, who seems to hold within her the infinite inexpressible mysteries of the universe...known by way of her endless suffering...

All the words written on this page bare a remarkable resemblance to what Jim says about Twin Peaks.

Coincidence is God incognito...Though the reasons are hidden, the beauty is revealed

[MamaKel]

Maybe the lesson...is that we have to continue to follow our intuition regardless of the outcome...and accept that even when our fate falls victim to disastrous consequences, that if we accept this as some an opportunity for growth, as opposed to a setback, that we will inevitably get where we are supposed to be.  And perhaps we all have both beings inside of us...Bob and Cooper...but it is the choices we make that determine our place beyond the karmic cycle of life and death.

[e_wind]

So this is my thesis statement for the paper I finished, which I believe is one of the best papers I've written in my 4 years in college.

"In this essay, I will examine the TV drama Twin Peaks through the lens of Zhuangzi's epistemological skepticism.  The main character's (Dale Cooper) dream sequences throughout the seasons provide evidence that not only can dreams be equivalent in terms of epistemological validity, i.e. that dreams and reality can provide the same kinds of knowledge, but that both Zhuangzi and Twin Peaks also offer an argument that dreams and reality can interact and effect one another."


Zhuangzi's argument that "knowledge isn't real", which implies epistemological knowledge btw, is a five part argument. The fifth part that I talk about the most  is "The possibility of dreaming" in which he states that there is no mark that can confirm that one is dreaming or in reality, and therefore  you cannot reasonably argue that knowledge gained from dreams isn't "real".


I don't neccesarily agree with that, but I took that stand for the paper and the paper is damn good. I'm so hyped on it that Im thinking about taking a Sr. Honors Thesis class and writting my thesis about Twin Peaks mythos.

[Shug]

Nice work, e-wind!  Rock On!!!

[StaggerLee]

One of my favorite shows of all time.  I think its time I watch it all the way through again.

[StaggerLee]

My favorite tv show. Watched it on swedish television the first time it aired. Love Audrey Horne.

Yes please.  Sorry i couldn't help myself.

[Taterbug]

Sherilyn Fenn   YUMMY  !!!!

[ManNamedTruth]

Yeah, Madchen is hot too. And so was Peggy Lipton (Norma Jennings). Not a big Lara Flynn Boyle fan however. Joan Chen would've been hot if it wasn't for that god-awful slicked-back haircut.

Young Peggy Lipton:



on a side note, look at the tumblr i found, some great pics, gifs here:
http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/sheryl-lee?before=1348281104

this is great too:
http://imgfave.com/search/peaking

[ManNamedTruth]

[ralph]

Mrs ralph and I did the Twin Peaks pilgrimage on our US trip in October.  Ate cherry pie and the RR Diner, went to the Great Northern & the waterfall, found the road where the town sign was, walked across Ronette's bridge etc, etc. It was so exciting to see all the places that were used in the show.

We watched Twin Peaks in it first aired on TV and have watched it dozens of times since then. We must have looked like the biggest fan geeks when we got the the diner! Best show on TV ever...

[woodnymph]

[MMJ_fanatic]

I had the pleasure/torturous experienc of watching the show when it was broadcast back in the day (torture=waiting a whole week to see the next one!).  And I was a big enough fan to rate receiving this for Christmas a couple years ago:


"MMMMmmm, good coffee"



I loved everything but the finale and I'm still pissed at CBS for doing Lynch the way they did on this show--I think it could've lasted much longer!

[Waddy Peytona]

I'm not into posting dubious links, but I can't resist sharing this item that came across my Twitter feed today. My fingers are officially crossed.

http://www.highsnobiety.com/2013/01/02/david-lynch-is-said-to-have-met-with-nbc-to-discuss-reviving-twin-peaks/

To top it off, Jim and Dave closed out their radio show tonight with Julee Cruise. Coincidence?