Jim James McKittrick Hotel 2/20

[headhunter]

See all of you crazy cats there!

[JaneCool]

If you're on the fence, just do it already!

I came on here to proudly proclaim that I had successfully talked myself out of making what would have been a very impulsive, foolish decision.  I then read the above words and went ahead and made the foolish and impulsive decision.

Bravo.

See you guys in February.

Wahoo!!!  I love this!  See you in Feb, Stevie

I also agree with Mr. Whippy's & br00ke's thoughts.  I think this is going to be one hell of a one-off show.  Something close to otherworldly, I imagine.  Regular tour dates will follow, for sure.  Excited about the roll call already & look forward to seeing everyone on the 02/02!

I am very much looking forward to both parts of this show - I was reading up on it and it sounds like we are the ones wearing the masks throughout the theatrical performance, there are no words just music and the experience will be unique for each of us - ? If I was reading correctly. Anyway, I think it will be a special night, but then again every night is when you spend it with Jim (or any of the band) and fellow fans. 

[megansparky]

HI EVERYONE WHO IS TRYING TO GET ON THIS LINK I WENT ON AND THEN WENT TO THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN AND CLICKED ON THE TIMES LIKE 630 PM AND THEN IT ASKED ME HOW MANY TICKETS I WANTED THEY ARE 110.00 EACH WITH A 5 DOLLAR SIR CHARGE AND TICKETS WILL BE AVAILABLE AT THE HOTEL I AM NOT SURE WHAT SLEEP NO MORE IS BUT I THINK IT IS A PLAY OF SOME SORT I HAVE FOUR TICKETS AND WILL POST IF I DONT USE THEM

[MrWhippy]

 

[Penny Lane]

Sorry to be negative to Roll Call, but this is complete BS.

This feels like the old bait and switch (or something!) Send out an anxiety inducing ambiguous email Sat AM telling about an exclusive Roll Call offer of seeing JJ perform (+ some sort of play mixed in) and people shelled out 115$ for this thinking this would be an 'exclusive' show', most likely 'separate from the tour' and one of the first times they could see JJ perform this new album (i was thinking somewhere I read or heard in its entirety). Then a few days later, we get an email announcing 2 regular shows the same week and on in the same city the day before this other performance? Plus the tix go on sale today? How about a couple day's notice...or perhaps letting people in on what's so special with this McKitrick Hotel performance. (Most people bought the ticket for Jim's show and are having to sit through this play-which no doubt is probably cool---but still). It seems like the old bait and switch to me? Now people are stuck with non-transferrable tix.

I'm in no way complaining about the opportunity for two NYC performances when most of you have none, I'm just saying that the manner it was done was confusing, misleading and now leaves people with this $115 ticket that they probably would have passed on. 

Done with the rant.

[itrainmonkeys]

It does seem a bit odd, the timing of it all. You'd think they would announce all 3 at the same time.

[dp74]

I agree, the timing is suspect. 

I definitely wanted to see SLEEP NO MORE but would have preferred to do it on a Friday or Saturday but felt the opportunity of a Jim James show was too good to pass up.

The question is, How much are the 2 shows going to differ if it is indeed the new album being played front to back?  Is that confirmed?

[mahg33ta]

Roll Call, Management, CC - anyone who can get us answers would be much appreciated.

1.  Is the McKittrick show a full length concert?

2.  are both shows (tues and wed) solo shows (no band)?

3.  If McKittrick is being billed as "the debut NYC solo performance by Jim James in honor of the release of his debut solo album", what is going to be played in Brooklyn (which is the night before?! and also in NYC lol)


I call BS too.

[vespachick]

I had considered buying McKittrick tix and then figured I'd figure a way to fly 3,000 miles to get there for it, find a sitter, blah blah blah.  I couldn't swing it, though.

I would have been FURIOUS to have spent the money and vacay days, had I done so with today's announcement, so casually dropped like it was.  Not cool.

Who's in charge of this?? A great way to make fans gun shy, indeed.

EDIT: doesn't this remind you of that commercial where they tell the one kid they can have all the delicious ice cream and then the first kid is left standing there, all screwed over because I guess he didn't read the fine print?

[tdb810]

I hope that this was some sort of planning glitch, and not some sort of bait and switch.  That would be very disappointing.  Either way, I think it's time for GC to bow out.  This Roll Call thing is a failed experiment. 

Let's get back to the simple business of being fans, and buying tickets to shows.  It really shouldn't have to be this complicated.   

[Fully]

It's really an abuse of fan loyalty, isn't it. They know we are going to go to these shows, but let's trick us into paying for really expensive tickets that are  non-transferable. Then we'll have another show the night before that's less expensive. It's nice that Jim wants to play the Sleep No More show, but let the purchasers of the tickets do it with full knowledge of the situation. Let's not manipulate us into spending more money. We aren't all super wealthy or even moderately wealthy. Just because we choose to spend our vacation time following this band does not mean we have so much disposable income that we can afford to shell out that much money on a regular basis.

[mahg33ta]

thanks for the support Vespachick.   It is pretty frustrating.   I was in the same boat but figured out how to make it work.  ticket bought, hotel room booked, work schedule moved around.     It still may be pretty damn special, but don't advertise it as a "NYC debut" then follow up with more dates a few days later.    If there's a bigger tour to be announced, then just do it already and let us figure out how to allocate our free time and $$ without having to guess.

[Penny Lane]

I hope that this was some sort of planning glitch, and not some sort of bait and switch.  That would be very disappointing.  Either way, I think it's time for GC to bow out.  This Roll Call thing is a failed experiment. 

Let's get back to the simple business of being fans, and buying tickets to shows.  It really shouldn't have to be this complicated.   

i just feel better taking my chances with Ticketmaster..i've lost so much money this year in non-transferrable tix, granted it's my fault for jumping the gun but ultimately it shouldn't be that hard to put transferability in place for a fan club.

it's also exhausting explaining Roll Call and will call/ticket holders to different venues and telling them how to line us up..other than Brooklyn, not sure many venues understood. i have yelled at so many security attendants and defenseless venue managers this past year...it's created so much anxiety before shows...my BF turned to me at Alpharetta as we were attempting to get them to let us in before Verizon members 'i've never seen you this worked up, ever!' I'm tired. It shouldn't be this complicated.

and edited: I didn't BUY a ticket for this as I didn't want to spend the $ and was gambling on another NYC show later on...i'm lucky but a few of the people who did are pinching their pennies like everyone else and this was a HUGE shell out...

[br00ke]

i'm not sure how i feel about this, but not entirely good would probably cover it. i think the mckittrick show will no doubt be something worth seeing, that it is special in that you get this whole other thing with sleep no more, and this is something that i know the band has all enjoyed in the past (didn't they all go together when they were here for T5 or actually I think it was during the Storytellers taping) and probably so much so that jim would like to share it with us. that said, should i attend the brooklyn show (i live here)? will it be the same exact show? i'd like to basically ditto all the questions kyle/mahg33ta asked.

i'm not sure if i'd say bullshit to the whole thing / mix up / what have you, but .. i dunno. i'm a bit confused. i don't regret purchasing a ticket to mckittrick, but i do feel a bit mislead or something.

[br00ke]

the brooklyn show is on 2/19 which means 2/20 being a 'debut' isn't accurate, right?

there have been many headaches with roll call, for me it was mainly early entry when the venue was basically clueless. ATL was the worst as there are two entrances (both being very far apart, about a 30+ minute walk) and we were never notified there was a dedicated entrance so we basically had to bully our way in early. it worked, the staff were very nice, but man what a headache that was. i have, however, really enjoyed having early entry (slave to the rail) as well as opportunity to purchase tickets before general on sale. i will only go with roll call when i have zero doubt about my attendance or if i'm OK with losing money if i can't go. i don't understand why tix are non-transferable. it's not like roll call is that huge and allowing transfers would tax the infrastructure that much.

[Taterbug]

I'm sure there is an explanation  ,    They gotta be getting tired of apologizing.  Actually I'm sure every show will be billed as the " Debut" of his new album.

"Directly following Sleep No More you will be treated to the DEBUT  NYC solo performance by Jim James in honor of the release of his debut solo album, Regions of Light and Sound of God. "

de·but/deɪˈbyu, dɪ-, ˈdeɪ byu, ˈdɛb yu/ Show Spelled [dey-byoo, di-, dey-byoo, deb-yoo] Show IPA
noun 
1. a first public appearance on a stage, on television, etc.
2. the first appearance of something, as a new product.
3. (of a young woman) a formal introduction and entrance into society, as at an annual ball.
4. the beginning of a profession, career, etc.
verb (used without object) 
5. to make a debut, as in society or in a performing art: She decided to debut with several other violinists. 
6. to appear for the first time, as on the market: A new product will debut next month.

[subinai]

Agreed that this whole release of show information seems backwards and shady. glad we get to see a show though.

[headhunter]

There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear


I think there is good reason why many of us are disappointed here.  Great to have 2 shows in the NYC area but the timing leaves a lot to be desired.

Very doubtful many of us would be laying out $110 plus a fee for a show on the 20th of February  BILLED AS A DEBUT when 3 days later we could get $30 tix for a show in Brooklyn on February 19th.

I think some explanation would be helpful.

[Penny Lane]

I'm sure there is an explanation  ,    They gotta be getting tired of apologizing.  Actually I'm sure every show will be billed as the " Debut" of his new album.

"Directly following Sleep No More you will be treated to the DEBUT  NYC solo performance by Jim James in honor of the release of his debut solo album, Regions of Light and Sound of God. "

de·but/deɪˈbyu, dɪ-, ˈdeɪ byu, ˈdɛb yu/ Show Spelled [dey-byoo, di-, dey-byoo, deb-yoo] Show IPA
noun 
1. a first public appearance on a stage, on television, etc.
2. the first appearance of something, as a new product.
3. (of a young woman) a formal introduction and entrance into society, as at an annual ball.
4. the beginning of a profession, career, etc.
verb (used without object) 
5. to make a debut, as in society or in a performing art: She decided to debut with several other violinists. 
6. to appear for the first time, as on the market: A new product will debut next month.

hmmm..perhaps Jim is appearing as a female violin player?

[Crispy]

I doubt seriously that there's anything shady about this, it just seems like the usual poor communication, which is unfortunately par for the course these days.