multi-night runs: repeats?

[e_wind]

They aren't advertised as no-repeats. In the past, RR 2 night run, OBH, the Wiltern and Port Chester were advertised as no repeats. Since its behind a new album, I would think that it is possible that they will repeat some. That would definitely make my decision between Chicago and RR a lot easier. Any insight peoples? Have they ever done a run that was heavy with repeats? Chicago 08? SF 06?

[Stevie]

Chicago 08 had 13 repeats, 6 of them being new album songs. 

[justbcuzido]

They aren't advertised as no-repeats. In the past, RR 2 night run, OBH, the Wiltern and Port Chester were advertised as no repeats. Since its behind a new album, I would think that it is possible that they will repeat some. That would definitely make my decision between Chicago and RR a lot easier. Any insight peoples? Have they ever done a run that was heavy with repeats? Chicago 08? SF 06?

OBH wasn't billed as no repeats. Though that was a special event. Someone posted elsewhere that they talked to Carl and it was safe to assume they would just be doing no repeats on multi night runs going forward. I could see them playing a few of the new songs repeated. I do hope it's not the case as I will be flying a long way for all three nights.

[e_wind]

They aren't advertised as no-repeats. In the past, RR 2 night run, OBH, the Wiltern and Port Chester were advertised as no repeats. Since its behind a new album, I would think that it is possible that they will repeat some. That would definitely make my decision between Chicago and RR a lot easier. Any insight peoples? Have they ever done a run that was heavy with repeats? Chicago 08? SF 06?

OBH wasn't billed as no repeats. Though that was a special event. Someone posted elsewhere that they talked to Carl and it was safe to assume they would just be doing no repeats on multi night runs going forward. I could see them playing a few of the new songs repeated. I do hope it's not the case as I will be flying a long way for all three nights.

cool!

[ericm]

I'm sticking with them being no repeats until I see otherwise. Carl told Mr. Whippy, and me after the Asbury Park Sandy benefit show that it's a given multi nighters would be no repeats. He even added something to the effect of " why does anyone even question that anymore? We love coming up with the setlists for those shows and playing them. Yes, take multi nighters as no repeats unless it's billed otherwise."

That's good enough for me, and unless they say something like they're playing the whole new album every night or something, I'm going with there being no repeats, and picking my shows accordingly. I'll be doing at least one multi nighter on each leg of the tour, plus a couple of choice one nighters.

[MOWJO8185]

I would expect, if anything, 2-3 new album songs that are their favorites to play would MAYBE be repeated over two nights. But no more than that.  I think it's safe to say that if you go to Chicago, you may not get 100% unique nights, but they will be mostly unique and certainly a wider selection of songs than 1 night at Red Rocks.

[ericm]

I would expect, if anything, 2-3 new album songs that are their favorites to play would MAYBE be repeated over two nights. But no more than that.  I think it's safe to say that if you go to Chicago, you may not get 100% unique nights, but they will be mostly unique and certainly a wider selection of songs than 1 night at Red Rocks.

I see the multi nighters as them having a chance to play the whole new album over the run. 3-4 new songs each night on three nighters, or 5-6 on the two nighters. JMHO.

[e_wind]

I would expect, if anything, 2-3 new album songs that are their favorites to play would MAYBE be repeated over two nights. But no more than that.  I think it's safe to say that if you go to Chicago, you may not get 100% unique nights, but they will be mostly unique and certainly a wider selection of songs than 1 night at Red Rocks.

of course it will be a larger variety than at one night anywhere, but 1 night at red rocks is equivalent to multi-nighters if the situation is right. If the RR roll call gets big, I'll probably be there.

[BigHerm]

Random question: is there an option to buy all 3 nights during the pre sale or am I going to have to go through the ordering process 3 times?


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[gardenparty]

if I recall correctly, they didn't officially say no repeats for the Wiltern until a couple weeks prior to the shows.

I know I already had my tickets well in advance

[MOWJO8185]

I would expect, if anything, 2-3 new album songs that are their favorites to play would MAYBE be repeated over two nights. But no more than that.  I think it's safe to say that if you go to Chicago, you may not get 100% unique nights, but they will be mostly unique and certainly a wider selection of songs than 1 night at Red Rocks.

I see the multi nighters as them having a chance to play the whole new album over the run. 3-4 new songs each night on three nighters, or 5-6 on the two nighters. JMHO.

I'd love it if you were right. But it wouldn't shock me to see at least a couple new songs appear each night. Particularly over the 3 night Chicago stand, I would expect to see a couple new songs show up at least twice.  Which is understandable - the tour is to promote the new album, after all, and 2-3 repeats over the course of two nights wouldn't be a big deal at all to me.

[APR]

I would expect, if anything, 2-3 new album songs that are their favorites to play would MAYBE be repeated over two nights. But no more than that.  I think it's safe to say that if you go to Chicago, you may not get 100% unique nights, but they will be mostly unique and certainly a wider selection of songs than 1 night at Red Rocks.

I see the multi nighters as them having a chance to play the whole new album over the run. 3-4 new songs each night on three nighters, or 5-6 on the two nighters. JMHO.

Exactly.  I don't think they will advertise the fact that it's no repeats because they don't feel the need to do so anymore (based on Carl's consistent conversations).  I don't think it will be a bummer if they decided to play Big Decisions or another single more than once anyway.

[ericm]

I would expect, if anything, 2-3 new album songs that are their favorites to play would MAYBE be repeated over two nights. But no more than that.  I think it's safe to say that if you go to Chicago, you may not get 100% unique nights, but they will be mostly unique and certainly a wider selection of songs than 1 night at Red Rocks.

I see the multi nighters as them having a chance to play the whole new album over the run. 3-4 new songs each night on three nighters, or 5-6 on the two nighters. JMHO.

Exactly.  I don't think they will advertise the fact that it's no repeats because they don't feel the need to do so anymore (based on Carl's consistent conversations).  I don't think it will be a bummer if they decided to play Big Decisions or another single more than once anyway.

Agreed. I don't think a couple of new songs repeated is a big deal, and it wouldn't bother me on this leg of the tour. I doubt it would be much more than that, and certainly don't think any other songs get repeated.

[Woldie]

They aren't advertised as no-repeats. In the past, RR 2 night run, OBH, the Wiltern and Port Chester were advertised as no repeats. Since its behind a new album, I would think that it is possible that they will repeat some. That would definitely make my decision between Chicago and RR a lot easier. Any insight peoples? Have they ever done a run that was heavy with repeats? Chicago 08? SF 06?

OBH wasn't billed as no repeats. Though that was a special event. Someone posted elsewhere that they talked to Carl and it was safe to assume they would just be doing no repeats on multi night runs going forward. I could see them playing a few of the new songs repeated. I do hope it's not the case as I will be flying a long way for all three nights.

There weren't any single night options for OBH, so billing it as such would have been somewhat redundant.

[Stevie]

"why does anyone even question that anymore? We love coming up with the setlists for those shows and playing them. Yes, take multi nighters as no repeats unless it's billed otherwise."

With all due respect to Carl, if the band would just come out and state this officially, once and for all, we would stop asking.  But with a new album, and with a new major record label, i don't think we are at fault for being curious, especially given the cost and the time off of work that will go into some of these adventures. 

That said, i'm willing to take it on faith that each of the Chicago shows will be highly unique, even if there are a couple of repeats from the new album each night.  What I'm leery about are the two-nighters.  I just don't know about those two-nighters.

..but here's something I just thought of....  What if the band got sick of the standard album tour format, of going to a new city every night but being handcuffed by the idea that each city will want to hear most of the new album, plus most of their hits.  The next city doesn't care that they just played wordless chorus in the previous one, they want to hear it too.  So how do you fix that?  Multi-night runs.  Most cities probably can't support a three-nighter, hence the multitude of two-night shows. 

Alright, i've convinced myself that this won't be an issue.  New album and record label be damned.  These are the same dudes and we should be thrilled by this tour schedule. 

[EverythingChanges]

This thread is exactly what has been on my mind.  Thanks for putting my worries at ease!

I agree there is no way these guys will play more than 5 repeats a night at most, I just don't see that happening.

I'll be hopping on the C-bus for the two night stay!  Chicago is tempting, but it would be much more $$ and I can't afford that many vacation days this year.  Forecastle will be my other show for now, until they add more dates of course.  I'm still hoping for a late night MMJ Friday set at Forecastle or something awesome like that.

This tour schedule is the best thing I could imagine.  I hate new album tours, because they leave so many rarities on the table.  With the two and three night stays at so many places, who knows what will happen!  I actually had a dream last night that I met Jim after the first Columbus show and requested Strangulation for night 2! 

Take a deep breath everyone; this is going to be one hell of a summer!

[ditty]

Random question: is there an option to buy all 3 nights during the pre sale or am I going to have to go through the ordering process 3 times?
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I asked Wonderful Union this question and it sounds like you can put multiple nights in one check out but there won't be an option to buy the same seats for a 2 or 3 night run.  Monday at on sale will certainly be interesting...

[Stevie]

this will certainly be very interesting.

[Mahgeetah34]

Monday, it'll be quite interesting.

[ericm]

"why does anyone even question that anymore? We love coming up with the setlists for those shows and playing them. Yes, take multi nighters as no repeats unless it's billed otherwise."

With all due respect to Carl, if the band would just come out and state this officially, once and for all, we would stop asking.  But with a new album, and with a new major record label, i don't think we are at fault for being curious, especially given the cost and the time off of work that will go into some of these adventures. 

That said, i'm willing to take it on faith that each of the Chicago shows will be highly unique, even if there are a couple of repeats from the new album each night.  What I'm leery about are the two-nighters.  I just don't know about those two-nighters.

..but here's something I just thought of....  What if the band got sick of the standard album tour format, of going to a new city every night but being handcuffed by the idea that each city will want to hear most of the new album, plus most of their hits.  The next city doesn't care that they just played wordless chorus in the previous one, they want to hear it too.  So how do you fix that?  Multi-night runs.  Most cities probably can't support a three-nighter, hence the multitude of two-night shows. 

Alright, i've convinced myself that this won't be an issue.  New album and record label be damned.  These are the same dudes and we should be thrilled by this tour schedule.

To be fair, Carl said that in the most laid back, joking way possible. It wasn't like he was in disbelief or pissed at the question. It was more like...."really? I thought it was obvious by now, but yeah, no repeats at multi nighters."