Z is copy protected

[thestateonmtv]

How the hell am I going to put it on my Ipod?

I always buy my music in CD format and then put it on my Ipod.

I'm not buying it twice

[EC]

How the hell am I going to put it on my Ipod?

I always buy my music in CD format and then put it on my Ipod.

I'm not buying it twice

If you look around you can find out that it's been addressed.  You are good for your ipod.  :)

You don't have to buy it twice.

All is goooood. :)

[thestateonmtv]

*pulls late pass out of pocket*

sorry I just signed up for the boards today

this whole copy protected thing has screwed me up on other CDs I have bought and I'm tired of it.

[EC]

*pulls late pass out of pocket*

sorry I just signed up for the boards today

this whole copy protected thing has screwed me up on other CDs I have bought and I'm tired of it.

Welcome!!   [smiley=pimp.gif]

[cmasters]

didn't have time to read all of this... figured I'd post it here and look back at it and maybe ya'll would like to read what it says when you pop this "Z" baby into your personal computer...

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Yeah... neat huh

[doEVILslittle]

yeah that's highly illegal, and i've seen the same thing on the newest foo fighters cd that i bought and it's easy to get around...don't worry kiddos just wait till october 4th so i can verify

[dragonboy]

I guess I got lucky, the Japanese copy has no copy restrictions what-so-ever!  :)

[McGuire]

There are ways around it.

[Disappointed in MMJ]

Well, thanks to the copy protection on this CD I absolutely will not be purchasing it, and will actively be telling others who I know not to purchase it as well.  Sony has absolutely no right to tell me how I can listen to MY CD.  If I wish to make more than 3 backup copies, both physical or digital, of the CD over the lifetime of ownership (forbidden by the EULA) I have absolutely every right to do so.  If I wish to copy digital versions of the songs I bought to an unapproved portable device (forbidden by their EULA) I have every right to do so.  If I wish to rip it to a unapproved format (forbidden by their EULA) I have every right to do so.  If I wish to listen to it with an unapproved piece of software (forbidden by their EULA) I have every right to do so.  If I choose to listen to the CD on my computer using an unapproved operating system (forbidden by their EULA) I have every right to do so.  I'm also a huge fan of this clause, which seems to suggest that I am waiving my 7th ammendment rights by clicking 'Agree' to a EULA.

2.      YOU HEREBY WAIVE ALL RIGHTS AND/OR ENTITLEMENT TO TRIAL BY JURY IN CONNECTION WITH ANY DISPUTE THAT ARISES OUT OF OR RELATES IN ANY WAY TO THIS EULA OR THE SOFTWARE.

Furthermore, if I listen to this CD on any computer I own I'm committing a civil offense against Sony, since none of my computers have a Windows or Mac operating system.  I'm also technically committing an offense if I stream the music from my music server to my stereo due to clauses in Article 2 and 3.

I really wish people wouldn't put up with the content distributor treating every single one of their customers like dirt.  I'm all for prosecuting the people who distribute unlicensed copies of the music, but I'm extremely against them attempting to limit the perfectly legal rights I have to fully utilize a product I have purchased.

Yes, I realize that I can probably without any hassle make copies of this CD and put them onto my portable device, but by doing so, in the manner I wish to do so, I can technically be prosecuted by Sony.  I wish not to cross that line.

[tomEisenbraun]

dude, just buy it on iTunes, burn it to disc, and reimport it to the computer. it's cheaper, and absolutely no copy-protection. snap out of it, bro. no reason to hate. yeah, its a pain in the neck, but i think that the protection on this disc is probably extremely minimalistic, as compared to others.

[MMJ_fanatic]

I hardly think this prevents you from making personal copies for your own use and would not recommend missing out on supporting a great band just because you are worried about that.  Copyrighted material is after all intellectual property of the artist existing for the benefit of the artist (as well as the fan).  If people really think music should be free then why don't we pass global legislation to provide worlwide government support to musicians for their art, of course all concerts would be free too so the artists would be stuck with whatever the governments doled out to each of them based on their popularity.  Goodbye fancy limos, MTV cribs, luxury tourbuses, you name it.  I personally believe in paying the provider of my musical enjoyment their just due and do not worry about such minor issues as copyrights.

[ratsprayer]

i think its a stupid principle to put such protection on them, it only forces the ones who will trample artistic integrity work harder to make it happen.  why even let you make limited back up copies?  thats a tease right there by putting limits with what you can do with a purchased durable good.  should i only be allowed to sit on my couch for a maximum of 24 minutes a day, no more than 2 people at a time?  why do blank cds exist made by record companies themselves if they dont want this shit to happen?  its a catch 22, and its ricockulous.

[doEVILslittle]

ok kiddos when i bought in your honor by the foo fighters i had the same problem so i looked up on the foo fighters message board and got the info as to how to disable this annoying feature...now i don't know if this sunncomm software is the same thing that's going to be used on the new mmj but it's a good read about the BS that copy protection is pulling on us...sorry i was so late in getting this info to you guys, i'll try to be quicker next time
http://bbs.foofighters.com/showpost.php?p=85546&postcount=27

also i know for a fact that holding the shift key will disable autorunning the copy protection softwar that starts when you insert a new disc, and this is another link to help you diable that
http://bbs.foofighters.com/showpost.php?p=85552&postcount=28

these methods work, and if you're semi-familiar with computers it's fairly easy to put them to work, i did it for the latest FF album and it's on my ipod just fine

[Disappointed in MMJ]

I hardly think this prevents you from making personal copies for your own use and would not recommend missing out on supporting a great band just because you are worried about that.  

I am.  I'm going to their shows, from which they see a much, much higher percentage of profit.

The iTunes suggestion is a decent suggestion, and to the other guy that didn't think the EULA limits making copies, read items 4 and 5 of Article 3.

MMJ_fanatic, I'm not suggesting that all music should be free, I don't believe that at all (BTW nice hyperbole).  I'm all for supporting an artist monetarily.  I'm merely stating that when I buy a CD I should be able to do anything with it that falls under "Fair Use", which includes making as many copies as I want (as long as I don't hand those copies out to other people) and playing the CD on any system I want without the gracious approval of Sony.  The issue here isn't about copyright, it's about content providers trampling all over YOUR Fair Use rights.

[tomEisenbraun]

true, i don't think that Sony hsould be able to breathe down our necks as so, but if they are going to protect the material, they kind of have to be quite discerning. so it comes down to a big decision like that, and we do sort of get screwed in the process.