Who was "What a Wonderful Man" written about?

Started by dwight, Oct 18, 2005, 11:36 AM

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dwight

I can't remember but there was a friend of Jim's in Louisville who killed himself a couple years ago - does anyone remember his name? He was a muscian. I think they were in a band together. They played some of his music on FPK after he died and it was very good. Evidently, unless Jim has known more than one person who killed himself - "What a Wonderful Man" was written about him.

I think his last name started with a T??  

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tomEisenbraun

His name was Aaron Todovich. The lead guitarist for Jim's band Month of Sundays, and then he played with Patrick for a while. Amazing guy, from what I've heard.

http://leoweekly.com/archives/121003/cs-aarontodovich.shtml

Wonderful Man isn't about him, though.
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peanut butter puddin surprise

Wow, a new low for the board.  Does anyone else think this is a bit creepy, weird, or just plain inappropriate to discuss people like this?  By their first and last name??

I've had friends who I lost to suicide and accidents, heart attacks, drugs...AIDS, you name it.  And I loved every one of them like brothers.  I wouldn't name any of them by their first and last names, out of respect for the living people who knew them, let alone post that information on an internet message board for the whole world to read.  Imagine being a friend of these folks and having to read their names on a message board-shit, I didn't know these guys and this discussion brings back memories of the friends I lost, whether a song was written about them or not.

This is just plain fucking creepy and disrespecful, IMHO.
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DD

im pretty sure hed just be happy people were talking about him.

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aMillionDreams

just trying to help, didn't mean to offend anyone.  Leave it to me to take us to a new low.  I deleted my post, Mr. Humble.  Here ia a link to the history of the band.  It also contains first and last names though:

http://www.magnix.demon.nl/mmj/archive/history.htm
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ratsprayer

i dont think i understand the logic here at all.  bad things happen, you cant keep them in a lockbox, john.  i dont see how discussing someone whos died is an automatic disrepect towards that person.  a person's memory after death is only what you make it.

my uncle physically killed his wife, set fire to the apartment, and then killed himself, after telling my family hed done all that.  it was front page news in the town where he lived (a city of 50,000) for days, and it made the 6 o'clock indianapolis news on all 3 major networks.  should i bitch at them for using his first and last name and causing my family problems where they lived?  

that all said, i cant forget those events which were the end, but i have excellent happy memories of my uncle, considering the circumstances.  a first and last name of someone whos died is not disrespect.  i take offense to the fact you take offense to this.

ratsprayer

ok all that just said, the only problem i can see here is the wording of the subject.  it could have been better asked "who did he write what a wonderful man and don dante about?"  maybe the "guy who killed himself" is disrespectful to these men, their names and everlasting memories sure arent, though.

peanut butter puddin surprise

Sorry, I just find it disrespectful to their names and memories.  This is a subject close to me-not these fine gentlemen in particular-but losing people that are like blood brothers to you is some harsh shit, so I can only imagine what is like for the friends and family of these folks to have this rehashed.

I'll just shut up now.
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ratsprayer

QuoteSorry, I just find it disrespectful to their names and memories.  This is a subject close to me-not these fine gentlemen in particular-but losing people that are like blood brothers to you is some harsh shit, so I can only imagine what is like for the friends and family of these folks to have this rehashed.

I'll just shut up now.

right ok, in that respect i know what you mean.  i sorta relive the shit everyday thats happened in my situation, but you have to battle through it and move on.  its never good to dwell on the past, but if more recognition can be brought to these gentlemen in question, maybe their greatness during their short lives can touch more people?  that wouldnt be a bad thing, would it?  

heres a drink to all those weve lost, happy thoughts and a good after life for those in mind, too.   [smiley=bier.gif]

EC

Quoteheres a drink to all those weve lost, happy thoughts and a good after life for those in mind, too.  
As I sit here drinking the last bits of the Knob Creek we got in Kentucky, I say "here here!!" :)

tomEisenbraun

I did think that the title was quite insensitive, but I think that, being a member of bands that both Jim and Patrick were in, and seeing as he did play a relatively important role in where those guys are now, he makes an impact. It's not to throw his name around, but to say. He played a very important role to these guys.

If he was a relative, or someone privately close to the guys, then I'd say "leave it alone", but he was in bands with Jim, Tommy, and Patrick, and his music is still accessible, and I would suggest checking his material out.

I don't mean anything malicious by any of this, and would gladly partake in a little Knob Creek were I but four years older.
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DD

i remember playing 007 on n64 with him.  he always beat me.  in fact he usually beat everybody when we would play on allotafajita nights, thursdays in the "nights" period.  


seriously.  i dont think hed see any disrespect in any of this.  he would be happy people from around the world were talking about him/remembering him.
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Half

but i done went and plum forgot it

aMillionDreams

Quotei think its about Jesus

you're wrong.
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So does sombody have an article or proof of who it's about, because I too find that it really sounds like it's about Christ.  The last line "till I found out he did it for all of us"...how could that be about anybody earthly?  What did someone here do for all of us?  And I'm assuming Jim means he died for all of us.  I'm just interested is all.  If there is an article or quote out there, I'd really love to read it.  SInce I'm fairly new to this band, I'd love to see what inspires them especially in the lyrics dept.
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QuoteSo does sombody have an article or proof of who it's about, because I too find that it really sounds like it's about Christ.  The last line "till I found out he did it for all of us"...how could that be about anybody earthly?  What did someone here do for all of us?  And I'm assuming Jim means he died for all of us.  I'm just interested is all.  If there is an article or quote out there, I'd really love to read it.  SInce I'm fairly new to this band, I'd love to see what inspires them especially in the lyrics dept.
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Corey
Hey Corey, you can safely trust all that's been written here.  It's not about Jesus.  I thought that, too.  I mean, maybe it's a little about Jesus (in an abstract way - who knows?), but it was surely written for Jim's friend.

I can't remember the article where Jim talks about the fact that he wrote it because he thought it would make his friend laugh.  But if you read the recent articles, mostly found in the "press" section above, you'll find out the information that exists.  :)

Half

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you're wrong.

i'm smarter and better looking than you
but i done went and plum forgot it

aMillionDreams

Here's the article, straight from Jim's mouth.  I believe this article also talks about how Jim is NOT into organized religion:
http://www.velocityweekly.com/2005/0928/cover/

I don't see why people think it's about Jesus.  Does Jesus normally go driving with Jim in the park?  Did he ever say "Love goes on"?  Anyways, proof's in the pudding, read the article.

And Half, who could tell how good looking you are if you don't take off that football helmet?
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ratsprayer

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And Half, who could tell how good looking you are if you don't take off that football helmet?

now youre not really suggesting Half and all these other lovely characters might just be Horkolad in disguise, are you?  could he have really fooled us that much?   ::) :o

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