Why's it surreal...

Started by ycartrob, Feb 09, 2007, 10:58 PM

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ycartrob

Why's it surreal when my hands feel they cant roll the dice?

that one always gets me.

The DARK

What does that line really mean? I never really understood it...  :-/
In another time, in another place, in another face

billybluebeard

QuoteWhat does that line really mean? I never really understood it...  :-/

It's a mystery... I guess. ::)

Why's it surreal when my hands feel they cant roll the jay?

sweatboard

It could obviously be taken many diffrent ways, but it seems to me in some sense like he's talking about his will to be in charge of his own destiny.  Which would match up with "Why are we so loud when we say it won't happen to us"  Kind of a fuck you to feeling powerless.  Just the fact that the singer is singing is proof enough in itself that he is not powerless.  A meaning that Jim understands and that we inturn understand when Jim sings.  
There's Still Time.........

Coltrane

oh no....i've gone cross-eyed....
....as mayor of Drugachusettes, I declare this pizza to be...AWESOME!!!

MMJ_fanatic

my first favorite MMJ song
Sittin' here with me and mine.  All wrapped up in a bottle of wine.

megisnotreal

whenever i find myself getting depressed/ feeling desolate, i listen to this song, and all the shitty feelings melt away.

LET_THE_FETUS_ROCK

There is something verry sunny and cheerful about  this song, good for my blues.
I will be there when you die!

tomEisenbraun

QuoteIt could obviously be taken many diffrent ways, but it seems to me in some sense like he's talking about his will to be in charge of his own destiny.  Which would match up with "Why are we so loud when we say it won't happen to us"  Kind of a fuck you to feeling powerless.  Just the fact that the singer is singing is proof enough in itself that he is not powerless.  A meaning that Jim understands and that we inturn understand when Jim sings.  

i've always heard it exactly opposite, as kind of the ultimate irony. "why're it so soft when the cannons unload on the others/why's it so loud when we say it won't happen to us". kind of that thing where you don't hear a thing until it happens to you, and then you're deafened by it so you can't hear anything else except that last blast that changed your life. i always hear it as a salute to our constant irony as human beings, and the fact that we're so damn strong until proven otherwise. and when we're proven otherwise, we're taken to our knees by it.

but that's just how i've always heard it. that context of the cannons helps bring out that line though, and the power of it through using the whole idea of cannons. i could ramble on, but i think it doesn't need anymore delving than that, and its all personal thought and your interpretation blah-dy blah.
The river is moving. The blackbird must be flying.

sweatboard

Why're we so loud when we say it wont happen to us?

big diffrence in "Why's IT so loud"


I don't know, I understand what your saying, but you have a diffrent version of what he's saying than I do.  Being Loud when saying "it won't happen to us" is a contrast to the loudness of a bomb but, by saying "why are WE" it seems he's pointing at the idea of some interanal strength rather than the strength of something external.  
There's Still Time.........

tomEisenbraun

i see what you're saying, but in the fact that he's asking that question, i still feel that irony being pushed at. and after the lyric screw-up, i think it still fits. that part always makes me sad, because i feel like it perfectly embodies ignorantly blissful youthful independence/invincibility, andthe realization that it's gonna be broken no matter how hard you push to embrace it. even if you're loud as hell, you're still gonna die someday, and you have to grow up and understand your weaknesses someday.

and to diverge from this topic almost completely, i think that's one of life's most important lessons is learning that you aren't invincible. i think this song embodies it for me in that lyric, but i think too many people take too long to know that they are indeed going to die. not that they think that they won't, just that they never actually stop to take time to realize that they can and eventually will. it's humbling, and it's not necessarily, especially in the way some of us are forced into our realizations of it, but it is a very real and necessary part of our lives and is certainly something that everyone ought to experience.
The river is moving. The blackbird must be flying.

BH

Quotei see what you're saying, but in the fact that he's asking that question, i still feel that irony being pushed at. and after the lyric screw-up, i think it still fits. that part always makes me sad, because i feel like it perfectly embodies ignorantly blissful youthful independence/invincibility, andthe realization that it's gonna be broken no matter how hard you push to embrace it. even if you're loud as hell, you're still gonna die someday, and you have to grow up and understand your weaknesses someday.

and to diverge from this topic almost completely, i think that's one of life's most important lessons is learning that you aren't invincible. i think this song embodies it for me in that lyric, but i think too many people take too long to know that they are indeed going to die. not that they think that they won't, just that they never actually stop to take time to realize that they can and eventually will. it's humbling, and it's not necessarily, especially in the way some of us are forced into our realizations of it, but it is a very real and necessary part of our lives and is certainly something that everyone ought to experience.

Hey, I thought you banned yourself from any further Jacket Lyric Analysis. ;)

Just kiddin', I've missed your posts. :)
I'm digging, digging deep in myself, but who needs a shovel when you have a little boy like mine.

primushead

Tom does write some great lyric analysis.  That's fo' sho'.

ycartrob

QuoteWhy's it surreal when my hands feel they cant roll the dice?

that one always gets me.

This lyric is about Jim James coming into one with the word of Christ (The Way that He Sings) and not being able to masturbate (rolling the dice) due to guilt and faith.

primushead


cmccubbin@work

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QuoteWhy's it surreal when my hands feel they cant roll the dice?

that one always gets me.

This lyric is about Jim James coming into one with the word of Christ (The Way that He Sings) and not being able to masturbate (rolling the dice) due to guilt and faith.

Jim doesn't have to masturbate...he is a Guitar God now...he's got people that do that for him
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primushead


peanut butter puddin surprise

trust me, you don't want anyone from that place masturbating anyone.  (shivers)
Runnin' from somethin' that isn't there

primushead

Hehehe...bad visuals John?

cmccubbin@work

QuoteSo...he's got people?



ha ha...i was totally thinking that when i wrote that.

Jim's definitely got people...
If you're lucky, MMJ will fill the void you didn't even know you ever had. If you're luckier, you'll get to see them live.