Evil Urges: Your Thoughts 1 Year Later...

[DougMac]

You'd have to be a pretty sad to be influenced by idiots like Pitchfork.  I'm sure people here are perfectly capable of making their own minds up about an album.  

They are right about Animal Collective though; Merriweather Post Pavilillion is gold standard and way superior to EU.  IMO, of course.

[rincon]

OK, I am now very familiar with EU. Has there ever been an album by any band that was all original songs that touched on almost all genres of rock? I doubt it. It think that was the intention, to do something never done before, and they did it right. Two Halves is a song Alex Chilton would have been proud to write. Thank You Too could be Smokey Robinson. Aluminum Park could be Foo Fighters. Remnants could be Monster era REM. I will admit the one song that does nothing for me is I'm Amazed. It sounds so generic like it was phoned in. Actually the closest album I could compare it to is New adventures in Hi Fi by REM, which also was intentionally eclectic. Like Pete Townshend said, "the music must change". Unfortunalty for the Who, when it changed in the late 70's, it sucked. EU does not.

[Tracy 3000]

Has there ever been an album by any band that was all original songs that touched on almost all genres of rock? I doubt it.

Listen to The Beatles' White Album or London Calling by The Clash
(and are you saying having a song that sounds like a Foo Fighters song is awesome?  :-/)

[rincon]

Has there ever been an album by any band that was all original songs that touched on almost all genres of rock? I doubt it.

Listen to The Beatles' White Album or London Calling by The Clash
(and are you saying having a song that sounds like a Foo Fighters song is awesome?  :-/)

So I guess you do not like the Foo Fighters. Not my point anyway. The White album was 3.1 songwriters attempting to personalize each of their compositions. London Calling also has 2 songwriters, and most of those songs, as varied as they are, do not paint as broad a swath of styles as EU. Plus they are both double albums.Sandanista is more varied than them all, but half is garbage. Jim Jones wrote all of EU. That makes it unique in regards to the other albums. At least they did not touch on LA 80's hair metal. (Foo Fighters may not be the greatest, but they are not crap by any means.)

[Tracy 3000]

Has there ever been an album by any band that was all original songs that touched on almost all genres of rock? I doubt it.

Listen to The Beatles' White Album or London Calling by The Clash
(and are you saying having a song that sounds like a Foo Fighters song is awesome?  :-/)

So I guess you do not like the Foo Fighters. Not my point anyway. The White album was 3.1 songwriters attempting to personalize each of their compositions. London Calling also has 2 songwriters, and most of those songs, as varied as they are, do not paint as broad a swath of styles as EU. Plus they are both double albums.Sandanista is more varied than them all, but half is garbage. Jim Jones wrote all of EU. That makes it unique in regards to the other albums. At least they did not touch on LA 80's hair metal. (Foo Fighters may not be the greatest, but they are not crap by any means.)

I didn't say Foo Fighters were crap; I just don't consider them influential enough for a comparison. Sort of the NFL likeness of saying, "Wow, that QB's great! His style reminds me of Kerry Collins!"

And why throw Adventures in Hi-Fi Comparison? I mean, if you are stating that my album suggestions contain too many writers, AIHF had 4! Of course, there's Physical Graffiti by Zep...

BTW, I am sure Patrick, Carl, Tommy and Bo appreciate you recognizing their contribution to The Jim James Experience    ;)

[rincon]

Has there ever been an album by any band that was all original songs that touched on almost all genres of rock? I doubt it.

Listen to The Beatles' White Album or London Calling by The Clash
(and are you saying having a song that sounds like a Foo Fighters song is awesome?  :-/)

So I guess you do not like the Foo Fighters. Not my point anyway. The White album was 3.1 songwriters attempting to personalize each of their compositions. London Calling also has 2 songwriters, and most of those songs, as varied as they are, do not paint as broad a swath of styles as EU. Plus they are both double albums.Sandanista is more varied than them all, but half is garbage. Jim Jones wrote all of EU. That makes it unique in regards to the other albums. At least they did not touch on LA 80's hair metal. (Foo Fighters may not be the greatest, but they are not crap by any means.)

I didn't say Foo Fighters were crap; I just don't consider them influential enough for a comparison. Sort of the NFL likeness of saying, "Wow, that QB's great! His style reminds me of Kerry Collins!"

And why throw Adventures in Hi-Fi Comparison? I mean, if you are stating that my album suggestions contain too many writers, AIHF had 4! Of course, there's Physical Graffiti by Zep...

BTW, I am sure Patrick, Carl, Tommy and Bo appreciate you recognizing their contribution to The Jim James Experience    ;)

Somehow I am not sure what you disagree with. Berry Buck Mills and Stipe wrote as a team, unlike Beatles and Clash, but I'm not into splitting anymore hairs. I like EU, I think it is as eclectic as I have ever heard, and PG is my favorite LZ album.

[Tracy 3000]

Has there ever been an album by any band that was all original songs that touched on almost all genres of rock? I doubt it.

Listen to The Beatles' White Album or London Calling by The Clash
(and are you saying having a song that sounds like a Foo Fighters song is awesome?  :-/)

So I guess you do not like the Foo Fighters. Not my point anyway. The White album was 3.1 songwriters attempting to personalize each of their compositions. London Calling also has 2 songwriters, and most of those songs, as varied as they are, do not paint as broad a swath of styles as EU. Plus they are both double albums.Sandanista is more varied than them all, but half is garbage. Jim Jones wrote all of EU. That makes it unique in regards to the other albums. At least they did not touch on LA 80's hair metal. (Foo Fighters may not be the greatest, but they are not crap by any means.)

I didn't say Foo Fighters were crap; I just don't consider them influential enough for a comparison. Sort of the NFL likeness of saying, "Wow, that QB's great! His style reminds me of Kerry Collins!"

And why throw Adventures in Hi-Fi Comparison? I mean, if you are stating that my album suggestions contain too many writers, AIHF had 4! Of course, there's Physical Graffiti by Zep...

BTW, I am sure Patrick, Carl, Tommy and Bo appreciate you recognizing their contribution to The Jim James Experience    ;)

Somehow I am not sure what you disagree with. Berry Buck Mills and Stipe wrote as a team, unlike Beatles and Clash, but I'm not into splitting anymore hairs. I like EU, I think it is as eclectic as I have ever heard, and PG is my favorite LZ album.

I was responding to your original statement:

[size=14]Has there ever been an album by any band that was all original songs that touched on almost all genres of rock?[/size]

I gave some examples then you started changing your statement to fit my response(s). (example: dismissing the "band" concept all together and saying 1 songwriter in a band). That's all.

[rincon]

Has there ever been an album by any band that was all original songs that touched on almost all genres of rock? I doubt it.

Listen to The Beatles' White Album or London Calling by The Clash
(and are you saying having a song that sounds like a Foo Fighters song is awesome?  :-/)

So I guess you do not like the Foo Fighters. Not my point anyway. The White album was 3.1 songwriters attempting to personalize each of their compositions. London Calling also has 2 songwriters, and most of those songs, as varied as they are, do not paint as broad a swath of styles as EU. Plus they are both double albums.Sandanista is more varied than them all, but half is garbage. Jim Jones wrote all of EU. That makes it unique in regards to the other albums. At least they did not touch on LA 80's hair metal. (Foo Fighters may not be the greatest, but they are not crap by any means.)

I didn't say Foo Fighters were crap; I just don't consider them influential enough for a comparison. Sort of the NFL likeness of saying, "Wow, that QB's great! His style reminds me of Kerry Collins!"

And why throw Adventures in Hi-Fi Comparison? I mean, if you are stating that my album suggestions contain too many writers, AIHF had 4! Of course, there's Physical Graffiti by Zep...

BTW, I am sure Patrick, Carl, Tommy and Bo appreciate you recognizing their contribution to The Jim James Experience    ;)

Somehow I am not sure what you disagree with. Berry Buck Mills and Stipe wrote as a team, unlike Beatles and Clash, but I'm not into splitting anymore hairs. I like EU, I think it is as eclectic as I have ever heard, and PG is my favorite LZ album.

I was responding to your original statement:

[size=14]Has there ever been an album by any band that was all original songs that touched on almost all genres of rock?[/size]

I gave some examples then you started changing your statement to fit my response(s). (example: dismissing the "band" concept all together and saying 1 songwriter in a band). That's all.

OK. Not really changing my statement. Discussions on a message board are awkward. If this were a face to face conversation with real time responses, I think we would not be in much disagreement.

[Tracy 3000]

Has there ever been an album by any band that was all original songs that touched on almost all genres of rock? I doubt it.

Listen to The Beatles' White Album or London Calling by The Clash
(and are you saying having a song that sounds like a Foo Fighters song is awesome?  :-/)

So I guess you do not like the Foo Fighters. Not my point anyway. The White album was 3.1 songwriters attempting to personalize each of their compositions. London Calling also has 2 songwriters, and most of those songs, as varied as they are, do not paint as broad a swath of styles as EU. Plus they are both double albums.Sandanista is more varied than them all, but half is garbage. Jim Jones wrote all of EU. That makes it unique in regards to the other albums. At least they did not touch on LA 80's hair metal. (Foo Fighters may not be the greatest, but they are not crap by any means.)

I didn't say Foo Fighters were crap; I just don't consider them influential enough for a comparison. Sort of the NFL likeness of saying, "Wow, that QB's great! His style reminds me of Kerry Collins!"

And why throw Adventures in Hi-Fi Comparison? I mean, if you are stating that my album suggestions contain too many writers, AIHF had 4! Of course, there's Physical Graffiti by Zep...

BTW, I am sure Patrick, Carl, Tommy and Bo appreciate you recognizing their contribution to The Jim James Experience    ;)

Somehow I am not sure what you disagree with. Berry Buck Mills and Stipe wrote as a team, unlike Beatles and Clash, but I'm not into splitting anymore hairs. I like EU, I think it is as eclectic as I have ever heard, and PG is my favorite LZ album.

I was responding to your original statement:

[size=14]Has there ever been an album by any band that was all original songs that touched on almost all genres of rock?[/size]

I gave some examples then you started changing your statement to fit my response(s). (example: dismissing the "band" concept all together and saying 1 songwriter in a band). That's all.

OK. Not really changing my statement. Discussions on a message board are awkward. If this were a face to face conversation with real time responses, I think we would not be in much disagreement.

I agree.

I also say that Adventures in Hi-Fi was the last great REM album (huge REM fan here) and mostly unappreciated, for whatever reason.

[rincon]

June 1984, Mission Theater in Santa Barbara. Reckoning tour. 200 people in the crowd. Stipe would give 15 seconds of eye contact with people, and creep them out. He did it to me twice.

[blucas]

My humble 2 cents... EU, both Touch Me's, Smokin' From Shootin' and probably I'm Amazed and Highly Suspicious will stand the test of time.  It would have been cool to see the others released on an EP and have  the EU album filled with songs more consistent with those above.  I like most of the others, and each song probably makes the exact statement that MMJ intends to make, but they aren't ever on my 'wishlist' to see live.  I've seen MMJ 4x since EU came out and, though all were mind blowing, my favorite was recently in san diego because they played all of the EU songs listed above, but then blessed the crowd with songs like TIWTCWT, Nashville to Kentucky, Master Plan, Steam Engine, Wonderful, Circuital....in place of the others.

[e_wind]

My humble 2 cents... EU, both Touch Me's, Smokin' From Shootin' and probably I'm Amazed and Highly Suspicious will stand the test of time.  It would have been cool to see the others released on an EP and have  the EU album filled with songs more consistent with those above.  I like most of the others, and each song probably makes the exact statement that MMJ intends to make, but they aren't ever on my 'wishlist' to see live.  I've seen MMJ 4x since EU came out and, though all were mind blowing, my favorite was recently in san diego because they played all of the EU songs listed above, but then blessed the crowd with songs like TIWTCWT, Nashville to Kentucky, Master Plan, Steam Engine, Wonderful, Circuital....in place of the others.

i just wanna say that that San Diego show you're referring to was an amazing set list.  I saw them in Chicago I think two days later and they only played 3 songs off EU. Touch Me 1 and 2 and Smokin. It also happens to be the set list I've ever seen them play. Not that Highly Suspicious isn't fun live, but I agree that hardly any EU songs are on my wishlist. The song I want to see the most off EU is the one that I will probably never see... Remnants.

[Brother Beck]

Does anyone know why they don't play Remnants...?  It is right up there with Smokin' From Shootin' as my favorites on EU.

[e_wind]

well, someone could try to get inside their heads and answer this to the best of their abilities, or you could go to The Steam Engine, and enter the interview contest and ask them yourself!

If I had to answer though, I would just assume that they don't think it is as "good" as the rest of the records.

[johnnYYac]

Does anyone know why they don't play Remnants...?  It is right up there with Smokin' From Shootin' as my favorites on EU.

Well, they will at T5 #5.  Also, the Rockpalast DVD has a live version that's very sweet.

[Tracy 3000]

Does anyone know why they don't play Remnants...?  It is right up there with Smokin' From Shootin' as my favorites on EU.

I saw them do it last summer in Nashville.

It's one of my favorites of EU; sounds like old rock, almost like Deep Purple

[columba78]

I have a new job and a long commute on which I listen to a lot of music.

Evil Urges is one CD I have listen to a lot and it is one of the few albums were I don´t skip any songs (well this counts for all MMJ albums).

Even songs that I did not like at first (Highly Suspicious) have grown to me.

Long Story short when you have a lot of driving to do, all MMJ albums including Evil Urges are perfect

[e_wind]

Fuck anything negative I've ever said about this album. Perfect from beginning to end.

[rincon]

Fuck anything negative I've ever said about this album. Perfect from beginning to end.

EHEHEHYUUUUPPP!!

[el_chode]

Last night just proved my theory: whatever it lacks in the studio is irrelevant when done live.