Evil Urges: Your Thoughts 1 Year Later...

Started by capt._headdy, Jun 10, 2009, 09:05 PM

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DaFunkyPrecedent

come on, lets be real...the album is just alright.  I mean shit, we all LOVE MMJ and because of that we are bias - but if we are just to look at this album compared to other music released in this era, it is no more than an above average album.  

i said it before and i'll say it again: they made some great songs on this album, in fact some of my favorite My Morning Jacket songs, but the album as a whole kinda fails.
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bear sin rug

Quotecome on, lets be real...the album is just alright.  I mean shit, we all LOVE MMJ and because of that we are bias - but if we are just to look at this album compared to other music released in this era, it is no more than an above average album.  

i said it before and i'll say it again: they made some great songs on this album, in fact some of my favorite My Morning Jacket songs, but the album as a whole kinda fails.

is it alright or above average or is it a failure? Those are 3 different opinions in 1 post!!  ;D

I happen to think it's great and it flows better than most MMJ records. I see it as deeper than most, too. More abstract concepts rather than singin' about things.
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capt. scotty

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I happen to think it's great and it flows better than most MMJ records

The thing is, Bob, it's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care. - Peter Gibbons

bear sin rug

I have to say, the flow between Smokin from Shootin and TMIGTS2 is the best in their history. Those 2 songs flow together better than any before. They do. They're like cake and ice cream  :)
It's a bad idea

capt. scotty

QuoteI have to say, the flow between Smokin from Shootin and TMIGTS2 is the best in their history. Those 2 songs flow together better than any before. They do. They're like cake and ice cream  :)

So the flow between 2 songs, the last 2 songs for that matter, makes Evil Urges have better flow as an album than most of their other albums?

You got flawed logic, son.

PS: The segue on those songs is excellent though
The thing is, Bob, it's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care. - Peter Gibbons

bear sin rug

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QuoteI have to say, the flow between Smokin from Shootin and TMIGTS2 is the best in their history. Those 2 songs flow together better than any before. They do. They're like cake and ice cream  :)

So the flow between 2 songs, the last 2 songs for that matter, makes Evil Urges have better flow as an album than most of their other albums?

You got flawed logic, son.

PS: The segue on those songs is excellent though

Thread title:

Evil Urges: Your Thoughts 1 Year Later...

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joey kokomo

That was off the Z tracks a little, but a great album. "Touch Me I'm Going to Scream Pt. 2" should appeal to the European audience and maybe that is what Yim was thinkun.  ;) Still, I would like to see some variations on the Z style in their future efforts.
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Ghosts_on_TV

Just gave it a fresh listen for the first time in a while. God damn, what an album.
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Ruckus

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QuoteI have to say, the flow between Smokin from Shootin and TMIGTS2 is the best in their history. Those 2 songs flow together better than any before. They do. They're like cake and ice cream  :)

So the flow between 2 songs, the last 2 songs for that matter, makes Evil Urges have better flow as an album than most of their other albums?

You got flawed logic, son.

PS: The segue on those songs is excellent though

Thread title:

Evil Urges: Your Thoughts 1 Year Later...

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Well put BSR, well put
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el_chode

I heard I'm Amazed numerous times on various radios last night.

I'm amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazed that nothing else has been pushed to terrad or sirius. I'm also quite tired of the song - not to say its a bad song. It'll just be skipped on future spins.
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johnnYYac

I didn't want to start a new thread for this old video, so here's a clip I stumbled upon with Jim discussing the structure of songs on EU.  Not earth-shattering, but always fun to hear the man try to explain their music.

http://www.mtv.com/videos/news/219618/jim-james-breaks-down-my-morning-jackets-e...

Sorry, couldn't get the video to embed.
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e_wind

QuoteFor me EU stands out because of the mastering, all instruments seem to cut through when they need to and just sound so clean and crisp. [highlight]As for the songs themselves I like them all, except for Remnants. I just can't seem to get into that song, although i still let it play when it comes on. [/highlight]
EU also means a lot to me because this was the first tour i had a chance to see MMJ on. (3 times) I can't wait for something new and another tour.
I won't rate the album against the others because they are all very different, unique and from me earn equal respect.



jackets most underrated song, imo.
don't rock bottom, just listen just slow down...

capt. scotty

I guess its been 2 years now, and although I still really like about half of the album, its clearly their least best
The thing is, Bob, it's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care. - Peter Gibbons

sweatboard

I just gave it a spin all the way through for the first time in a long time.  I was blown away.  Carl sounds amazing on this record.  The pedal steel on SEC Walking is mindblowing.  The production in general is killer, I was thinking Dark Side Of The Moon at times.  It's much more dense than Z, not nearly as Live sounding and not as much Patrick but it unfolds really nicely.  The fact that side two of the first album ends with Two Halves is hilarious in a really clever Jim sort of way.  I kind of fell in love with some of the nuance of Evil Urges this time around.  I noticed some stuff Bo does that is really nice that I hadn't really picked up on before.  Also, some of my favorite of Jim's lyrics, in some ways they are more literal than earlier stuff but I like how they flow within the context of the album and tie into other songs. I LOVE this section of the album more than ever....

6. Sec Walkin (Look for eyes that hypnotize and Spppparrkkkklleee)
7. Two Halves (Can't have it all you should enjoy what you have)
8. Librarian (when God gave us mirrors he had no idea)
9. Look at You (right down here with us, in this world)

Aluminum Park and Remnants>>>Guitar Tone Is Insane!!!!


I say - Evil Urges = EPIC!!  People should be getting stoned and having Evil Urges parties...if they aren't already!          
There's Still Time.........

CTdeadhead

I can't seem to enjoy the Librarian as much any more.  

slappymoe

QuoteI can't seem to enjoy the Librarian as much any more.  
that's the one and only jacket song that i just plain ol' don't care for.  it's a no-brainer "beer and bathroom break" song if i ever get it live.

as for the entire album, give it the "stranded on an island" test:

if you're stranded and can only have four of the five MMJ albums with you on the island (to be played on the same apparatus they used on gilligan's island), which one do you omit?




e_wind

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QuoteI can't seem to enjoy the Librarian as much any more.  
that's the one and only jacket song that i just plain ol' don't care for.  it's a no-brainer "beer and bathroom break" song if i ever get it live.

as for the entire album, give it the "stranded on an island" test:

if you're stranded and can only have four of the five MMJ albums with you on the island (to be played on the same apparatus they used on gilligan's island), which one do you omit?




trick question... you bring Okonokos, Evil Urges, At Dawn and TTF. Then instead of dealing with not having ALL of EU, you just deal with not having into the woods, masterplan, easy morning rebel, just one thing, rollin back.


in reality though I would leave EU becasue i am in love with just one thing and masterplan. however, i agree with sweatboard, evil urges is epic. EU and Highly Suspicious are great live. I love the upbeat energetic songs live. And the last 5 song run (not counting good intentions) is AMAZING. I'm Amazed through The Librarian are not my favorite songs ever, but they're all damn good. Sec Walkin IS awesome though. I think when Yim does these middle-of-EU songs solo, they are absolutely incredible. Look At You live and solo is amazing.
don't rock bottom, just listen just slow down...

mahg33ta

My thoughts on EU 2 years later.

Certainly my least favorite MMJ album.   Not going to say the "weakest", becaus music is so personal, I totally get how for some people it might hit their sweet spot, but for MY tastes, lots I find uninteresting.    I compare that to AD through Z where there's barely a skipper in 3 straight albums.

However, the songs I like on EU I like as much as other songs.   So, now that they're not touring supporting EU and playing most of it, the setlists are less EU heavy and like any other album the cream rises to the top.   If you look at the San Diego setlist, the songs they play are Touch I, Touch II, Evil Urges, I'm Amazed, and Smokin'.    If in the long-run that's the legacy the album leaves, then great, I like all those songs a lot and Smokin' is one of my favorites.   6 Years and 2 albums from now, tours will only have a few EU songs played, and they'll be great, rockin', and fan favorites.

I never really cared for the middle of the album - Sec Walkin, Thank You Too, Librarian, Two Halves - and I doubt I'll ever see a show where I hear them all again - one or two popping up as a surprise here and there.   Look at You never grabbed me until the recent solo versions, which I think are brilliant.

My $0.02.


SaraBananaBear

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QuoteFor me EU stands out because of the mastering, all instruments seem to cut through when they need to and just sound so clean and crisp. [highlight]As for the songs themselves I like them all, except for Remnants. I just can't seem to get into that song, although i still let it play when it comes on. [/highlight]
EU also means a lot to me because this was the first tour i had a chance to see MMJ on. (3 times) I can't wait for something new and another tour.
I won't rate the album against the others because they are all very different, unique and from me earn equal respect.



jackets most underrated song, imo.

Definitely underrated, I usually think of Highly Suspicious when I think underrated songs, but absolutely Remnants too.
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johnnYYac

I'm surprised so many express a dislike for Librarian.  I like its simplicity, the lyrics, the slow build up to drum, bass, pedal steel and keys.  I think its very accessible for the uninitiated MMJ listeners.  I definitely prefer it to Sec Walkin'.  

Librarian and Remnants are the only two songs from EU I've yet to see live, and I'm looking forward to that changing at Terminal 5.  Remnants on the Rockpalast DVD is a highlight for that reason.

I would place the album, as a whole, at the bottom of the list of 5, but still love it and listen to it, front to back, regularly.  
The fact that my heart's beating is all the proof you need.