London Shows Postponed

[SMc55]

here we go again...

What do you mean, John?

[peanut butter puddin surprise]

well, shows get cancelled, and people freak and take it all personal, like Jim James decided to screw over the fans.  and it's not like that!  i read this stuff and wonder out loud how anyone could think that way.  

things happen, and i wonder why people take it all personal, like their world is crumbling because an entertainment event was postponed.  maybe i'm reading too much into this, but damn!  

the other thing is people act like this is only time this has ever happened to them.  come on!  the movie you want to see has never been sold out??  the power went out and the venue had to cancel??  shit happens.  

[SMc55]

well, shows get cancelled, and people freak and take it all personal, like Jim James decided to screw over the fans.  and it's not like that!  i read this stuff and wonder out loud how anyone could think that way.  

things happen, and i wonder why people take it all personal, like their world is crumbling because an entertainment event was postponed.  maybe i'm reading too much into this, but damn!  

the other thing is people act like this is only time this has ever happened to them.  come on!  the movie you want to see has never been sold out??  the power went out and the venue had to cancel??  shit happens.  

I don't think you're being fair there. Who's said any of that? Nobody as far as I can see. People are naturally disappointed and have expressed it. I've just read the thread over and nobody's reacted as you've described. Small stakes, for example, has only said what he was feeling at the time. He hasn't criticised the band at all. Nobody has. We all wish whoever is ill the very best for their recovery.

[peanut butter puddin surprise]

perhaps you are right.  

[EC]

perhaps you are right.  

I know where you're coming from, John - there have been times when people take things very personally, but I think lady doctor's right here, and I think everybody understands that all involved were really disappointed (fans and band alike).

But of COURSE things happen, and it seems like everyone understands.  :)

[peanut butter puddin surprise]

let me clarify:  I wasn't really trying to be an asshole (although it sure sounded like it) but just trying to avoid the all-out, "MMJ hates Europe" discussion we had from last year.  I get that people had plans;  I too have had this happen.  

I'm just pointing out that sometimes there are things far more important than rock shows, or even your career.  I felt we were getting to the point where it would erupt from disappointment to bitterness or something like that.  

That's what I really meant.

[EC]

What's more important than a rock show?!

(just kidding);)

[peanut butter puddin surprise]

What's more important than a rock show?!

(just kidding);)

apparently, sex change operations!  ;)

[EC]

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

[sweatboard]

apparently, sex change operations!  ;)

Oh Snap!!!!  That is the single funniest thing ever written in this forum.

[peanut butter puddin surprise]

Oh Snap!!!!  That is the single funniest thing ever written in this forum.

No way... ;)

[SMc55]

I'm just pointing out that sometimes there are things far more important than rock shows, or even your career.  

But if we only posted stuff that was important it would be boring. And we wouldn't have a dodgeball team. And I wouldn't have found out so much about Welcome Back Kotter. Or the Gorton's fisherman. Let's hear it for the unimportant, I say  ;)

[sivalc]

well, shows get cancelled, and people freak and take it all personal, like Jim James decided to screw over the fans.  and it's not like that!  i read this stuff and wonder out loud how anyone could think that way.  

things happen, and i wonder why people take it all personal, like their world is crumbling because an entertainment event was postponed.  maybe i'm reading too much into this, but damn!  

the other thing is people act like this is only time this has ever happened to them.  come on!  the movie you want to see has never been sold out??  the power went out and the venue had to cancel??  shit happens.  

My disapointment is no way directed at the band but was more born out of frustration. for me it was more than simply an entertainment event I had planned a 3 day trip to London to see my favourate band in the whole world who i havent seen play for 2 1/2 years, it was my chance to hear new material, a one in a lifetime chance to see Jim James solo in a very small intimate setting, A chance to catch up with  some old friends  and have a 3 day break from work. In short i had been looking forward to this event for a long time for many reasons. Now i find myself £60 out of pocket in train fares, will not be meeting old friends and find myself back in my soul destroying job when I should be in London getting F*cked and listening to the jacket. it wouldnt be as  big a deal If i lived in the states as they tour often but I probably wont get the chance to see them till next year at the earliest. Im also disappointed for the band as I was hoping these shows would be a springboard for more sales and recognition in the uk. I see music as an artform and not just entertainment I live for Live Music and epecially music like the jackets which has the emotional impact to take me to places where nothing matters but the music and  that moment in time. Rant over.  

[ben grimm]

Here here! I'm out about £250 all together, plus 3 days lost work. Thanks guys hope you feel better.

[ratsprayer]

Here here! I'm out about £250 all together, plus 3 days lost work. Thanks guys hope you feel better.

for those of you not up on conversions, thats about $425.  wouldnt you be a bit pissed/sad/frustrated?

signed,
the devils advocate   ;D

[peanut butter puddin surprise]

my god, why is so expensive??

[ratsprayer]

ive never been to europe, but ive been studying england in all ways to plan for a trip there in a few years.  everything in ridiculously expensive, and london is the worst, at least from wot ive seen.  mixed drinks can be $14 or more in some pubs or clubs, for fucks sake!

[ben grimm]

My sister bought the tickets for me and mrs grim while we were on holiday, to take the train from Liverpool to London cost £80 each. its cheaper if you book in advance but because we were away we could only book a week in advance, throw hotel rooms for three nights into the pot and it just keeps getting more expensive. Not as expensive as repairing my broken heart! we were looking forward to this for so long, i've bored my brother in law stupid with tales of how great this band is and finally get chance to show him and they cancel! H even cut out a preview from Time out London he was so looknig forward to it. This is the second show this summer we've had cancelled on us by american artists. File under Ryan Adams.

[ratsprayer]

File under Ryan Adams.

i wouldnt file mmj under 'whiny egotistical bastard'.  somewhere i read that jim wasnt feeling too well for newport, so it could be something lingering.  not to sound rude or contintent-ist (like that?), but they cant be in a position to compromise their entire tour over here for a one off.  sure its happened to you guys in europe before, blah blah.  how many other great bands do you have other there that never come here?  seriously.

[EC]

Okay, 1. Ryan Adams and MMJ are different.
2.  Illness can't be helped.

London IS an expensive town, and it totally totally sucks that people are out money, but even moreso are disappointed.

But I feel the need to say again that from everything we've ever heard and read about this band, they're good dudes.  And they wouldn't just fuck off and not go to a show like that because they didn't feel like it or had an upset stomach or something.  They're probably out money, too.  I doubt anybody is really all that thrilled with the situation.