From: Mod at the Pearl Jam Board...To: Me

[HorkoLad]

Howdy, Balki.

We've got a situation here, and I want you to understand where I'm coming from. You've been banned, multiple times now, and it has always been intended to be permanent. I think you understand why. I also understand that you've got a lot of friends here, including Clark, who has repeatedly asked for your reinstatement. I also understand that you're a pearl jam fan, and that they are on tour now and you want to participate in a pearl jam community.

I can't give you all you want, and here's why. "Balki" can never come back to RM. His presence is like a poison pill in the water that sets off chaos in the GD forum. Simply a thread that talks about Balki leads to an afternoon of pointless threads from others, in my experience. I don't like cleaning up the board of dumb threads and neither do any of the mods. Honestly, apart from me, there might be one other mod who would even spend the time writing you a PM like this before pulling the plug on your new personna. There's no way that they would agree to let you back.

Also, in having returned like this, under a new name, and a clear violation of a couple of rules, you've made the mods look like fools, especially since it took Clark telling us that this was you for us to notice you were back. None of us like being made fools, but I understand the rationale that we were not going to let you in the front door, so if you wanted in, you had to try to sneak in the back. The big problem has now arisen that there are others on the board who now know who you are, and that makes us look even more like fools, and we can't let that continue. If the mods don't have any respect, we can't do out jobs, which from what I can tell about you, you do appreciate, even if you get out of control sometimes and run up against us.

At the same time, we don't really feel like looking like assholes by banning you AGAIN, at least I don't think it's good for morale around here. So I'd like to propose a deal for you.

I won't ban Barth, I won't ban your IP address at home, but you are not to POST, AT ALL, in any of the forums, and that includes the pearl jam related forums. If we could just ban you from GD, we might consider such a thing, but we don't have the technology to do that yet, so you can't post at all. By not banning your home IP address, you will still be able to follow the tour, the setlists, and the discussions, but YOU MAY NOT PARTICIPATE. This is the absolute most I can do for you.

Now here's the default paragraph. If you post after you receive this message in any forum, you will be IP banned. If you discuss this deal with anyone, and I catch wind of it, you will be IP banned. So, I suggest you don't go into the chatroom either so you're not tempted to answer when someone there asks you why you have stopped posting. The other mods will not know about our deal either. As far as they are concerned, you are being banned. That is what everyone is to believe, everyone. This is purely between you and me, our special understanding, dig?

I will go into your profile and make you hidden if you aren't already, don't change that. If I see you visible on the boards, I'll IP ban you.

Don't betray my trust. If you do, I'll personally make sure that you never see this board again as long as I post here. If you can exhibit enough self control to refrain from posting entirely, when we get the hack to ban you only from GD, we may let you begin posting in the other forums. This is your only ticket back in any fashion. Don't fuck me.

I know I can't stop you from PMing Clark to tell him about this, but you should make sure that he understands that this is supposed to be a secret. Because if I find that people outside your closest circle know about this, you'll be done, and I won't care about "proof" and such trite judicial concepts.

If you think you can handle this, just write me back that you're OK with this. If not, well, this will be the last communication on RM for you.

--Dave



Be glad your board isn't run by a bunch of powerhungry ego-maniacs ;)

[waxy]

hahahahahahahahahaaahhahaaaah

[waxy]

I'm "Clark"

[Half]

well done, friend

[peanut butter puddin surprise]

the doctor said if i just kept my fingers out of there, i'd stop having nosebleeds...

[HorkoLad]

Look in the tunk.

[Jellyfish]

What did you do to get banned in the first place?

[HorkoLad]

What did you do to get banned in the first place?

i have no idea

[HorkoLad]

From a Mod :(

Act like this....
 
I hope you're not serious, man.  
 
Because I went out on a fucking limb for him, for no good reason. I could have just as easily said, "deal with it, you dug your own grave twice before." But I put myself out there, exposed myself, and he fucking undercut me the FIRST CHANCE he got. That is LOW. That is so low, I have difficulty conceiving of it, because I have NEVER personally done anything to him. Does he think that it was my own idea to ban him in the first place? It wasn't, but fuck it if it was. He deserved it then, and he deserves a lot more than I can do through a computer right now.  
 
He has NO BALLS. He can't even write me a PM himself, he has to go through you with every correspondence, he's a fucking coward. All this time I thought he was just a good natured fool who couldn't control his own mouth, but now I know that he's a backstabbing, shallow, immature, conieving, piece of day-old donkey shit with nothing better to do with his sorry ass life than to cause dischord on an internet message board.  
 
Forget what I said about guilt by association. If you could be insulted by my earlier words, just because he's "family", you need to get your morals straight too.

[SMc55]

Aren't personal messages meant to be erm... personal?

I know this is the off topic thread but what's any of this got to do with us?

[HorkoLad]

Aren't personal messages meant to be erm... personal?

I know this is the off topic thread but what's any of this got to do with us?

i'm basically thanking you (in a round about way)....for being nice :)

[SMc55]

i'm basically thanking you (in a round about way)....for being nice :)

Oh, I get it now  :)
Not only are we nice, but we have the best damn moderator around. He handles everything in such a cool way. Our commodore is the business!

[Jellyfish]

No disrespect intended but I have a hard time believing that he/they kicked you out for no reason.From some of those messages it's obvious there is more than one person that has heat with you.If I am wrong...I apologize now.

Anyway,welcome to the board and we really don't have a lot of drama on this forum so maybe you will be comfortable here. ;)

[Alligator Gar]

 :-/

[HorkoLad]

No disrespect intended but I have a hard time believing that he/they kicked you out for no reason.From some of those messages it's obvious there is more than one person that has heat with you.If I am wrong...I apologize now.

Anyway,welcome to the board and we really don't have a lot of drama on this forum so maybe you will be comfortable here. ;)

no disrespect at all :)
trust me...there's a huge huge huge story...thats not worth getting into. no drama will come from me, thats a promise...nice to be here :)

[LennytheTent]

From a Mod :(

Act like this....

I hope you're not serious, man.  

Because I went out on a fucking limb for him, for no good reason. I could have just as easily said, "deal with it, you dug your own grave twice before." But I put myself out there, exposed myself, and he fucking undercut me the FIRST CHANCE he got. That is LOW. That is so low, I have difficulty conceiving of it, because I have NEVER personally done anything to him. Does he think that it was my own idea to ban him in the first place? It wasn't, but fuck it if it was. He deserved it then, and he deserves a lot more than I can do through a computer right now.  

He has NO BALLS. He can't even write me a PM himself, he has to go through you with every correspondence, he's a fucking coward. All this time I thought he was just a good natured fool who couldn't control his own mouth, but now I know that he's a backstabbing, shallow, immature, conieving, piece of day-old donkey shit with nothing better to do with his sorry ass life than to cause dischord on an internet message board.  

Forget what I said about guilt by association. If you could be insulted by my earlier words, just because he's "family", you need to get your morals straight too.

wait who was this to?

[HorkoLad]

wait who was this to?

Clark...about me

[dragonboy]

no drama will come from me, thats a promise...nice to be here :)

Isn't this whole thing kind of dramatic?  ???
And hostile too...
I don't know, maybe it's not my place to say but maybe you need to let this lie? & if you can't then maybe this isn't the place to discuss it?
This is something that took place somewhere else & I therefore find it strange that you feel the need to bring it up here?  ???

This is the first time I've felt strong negative vibes on this forum & that makes me feel sad!  :'(
I love this site! Let's all show the love, not the hate!  

Man, I sound like SUCH a hippy!  ;D
Peace...

[HorkoLad]

Isn't this whole thing kind of dramatic?  ???
And hostile too...
I don't know, maybe it's not my place to say but maybe you need to let this lie? & if you can't then maybe this isn't the place to discuss it?
This is something that took place somewhere else & I therefore find it strange that you feel the need to bring it up here?  ???

This is the first time I've felt strong negative vibes on this forum & that makes me feel sad!  :'(
I love this site! Let's all show the love, not the hate!  

Man, I sound like SUCH a hippy!  ;D
Peace...

i don't think you guys understand the reasoning behind my posting of this. Let me explain. For the past 2 years or so, I've been posting on www.theskyiscrape.com, which is a pearl jam message board. I'm a huge Pearl Jam fan and always enjoyed going on there and having a good time while at work, and I actually met a few really great friends through it. During the entire duration, I've come under constant scrutiny because of my active imagination and because I was just looking to have a good time...i'm one of the most positive people you were ever meet, and i wear my heart on my sleeve. This all came to a head when I was banned, and took it like a man. For 4 months I wasn't allowed back on because i was "the guy who got everyone all riled up." They saw me as a threat, so they banned me. I was on the verge of finally being allowed back, and this letter is what I received from one of the moderators. It deeply disturbed me, since I view the internet as a place to kick back and just have a good time...no strings attached. Apparently, the writer of this letter, does not. I posted it here to let you guys know that this community is so much more layed back, and accepting of others...and i appreciate that immensely. I wanted you to know how good you guys have it, and not to take for granted the certain liberties that you experience here...I'm sorry if it ruffled any feathers or offended anyone...that was not my intention.

~Jeff (HorkoLad)

[EC]

I think everybody will be cool Jeff, but please appreciate the fact that we feel weird about you sharing private information over here.  

Of course some people are spazzy and controlling and don't like you to be weird.  And that sucks.  But you're making it into a pretty big deal, and we don't really know anything about it.  Plus, there have been a LOT of really fuckin' stupid threads started, and you guys know that.

It is SO cool to be as weird as you want to be.  Just be careful not to go over the top, hey?  Sometimes it seems like you guys are pushing to see how far you can go.  I don't think I need to really explain that any further, do I?

It's alll coooool.  Just be good.  

p.s.  I'm not the mod, so you can ignore me if you want, I guess.  Riny is the coolest damn man in the world.  And he's really nice.  Please don't piss him off.  I would cry.  :)