So...anyone else have to buy a record player now that they've purchased the deluxe vinyl package of Circuital?
I know I do. I could probably get an old one from my parents, but I'll probably go out and buy a new one :)
I'm excited about it.
Quote from: firesofcanning on Apr 14, 2011, 11:04 AM
So...anyone else have to buy a record player now that they've purchased the deluxe vinyl package of Circuital?
I know I do. I could probably get an old one from my parents, but I'll probably go out and buy a new one :)
I'm excited about it.
As well you should be. Those who listen to MMJ (and other music) on Vinyl usually find that this is the best way to really listen to the music.
I've got this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-PL-990-2-Speed-Automatic-Turntable/dp/B00009QORL/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1302796910&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-PL-990-2-Speed-Automatic-Turntable/dp/B00009QORL/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1302796910&sr=8-1)
It's a nice beginners table especially for the price and it's automatic. Got it because it has the RC auxillary outputs to connect to a receiver or mini system.
Quote from: headhunter on Apr 14, 2011, 11:56 AM
Quote from: firesofcanning on Apr 14, 2011, 11:04 AM
So...anyone else have to buy a record player now that they've purchased the deluxe vinyl package of Circuital?
I know I do. I could probably get an old one from my parents, but I'll probably go out and buy a new one :)
I'm excited about it.
As well you should be. Those who listen to MMJ (and other music) on Vinyl usually find that this is the best way to really listen to the music.
Is this your company headhunter? ;) ;D
http://www.urpressing.com/index.php/ (http://www.urpressing.com/index.php/)
One day I'd like to upgrade to an audiophile's dream setup like the one I hear you have Jeff. For now I got a solid sounding budget system with an Audio Technica TT, Onkyo receiver and Sony floor standing speakers.
Quote from: Ruckus on Apr 14, 2011, 12:08 PM
Quote from: headhunter on Apr 14, 2011, 11:56 AM
Quote from: firesofcanning on Apr 14, 2011, 11:04 AM
So...anyone else have to buy a record player now that they've purchased the deluxe vinyl package of Circuital?
I know I do. I could probably get an old one from my parents, but I'll probably go out and buy a new one :)
I'm excited about it.
As well you should be. Those who listen to MMJ (and other music) on Vinyl usually find that this is the best way to really listen to the music.
Is this your company headhunter? ;) ;D
http://www.urpressing.com/index.php/ (http://www.urpressing.com/index.php/)
One day I'd like to upgrade to an audiophile's dream setup like the one I hear you have Jeff. For now I got a solid sounding budget system with an Audio Technica TT, Onkyo receiver and Sony floor standing speakers.
;D If you ever make it up to Long Island, it will be a pleasure to have a nice vinyl listening party with you. We can talk about our fond law school memories. ???
I already had a cheap Ion turntable, but I got this one recently for my birfday. It's a Music Hall MMF 2.2. The dudes at the shop said it's the entry level to true audiophile listening and you can't get close to the quality without spending a couple thousand. You can pick one up for $400 or so. It's saaaaweeeeeeet listening for the budget minded!!!
http://www.musichallaudio.com/detail.php?p=3 (http://www.musichallaudio.com/detail.php?p=3)
So...as a long time music lover and listener, but one who didn't grow up in the age of vinyl, what's so good/so much better about listening to music on vinyl.
I think I'm bought in just because it seems to be what people who like music as much as I do listen to...but can anyone educate me?
I feel like I will buy vinyl going forward, but I will probably only do that for bands/albums that I LOVE as opposed to all the music I consume.
I found my turntable in a dumpster. Sony PS-T15. Works for me and the price was right!
Quote from: firesofcanning on Apr 14, 2011, 01:10 PM
So...as a long time music lover and listener, but one who didn't grow up in the age of vinyl, what's so good/so much better about listening to music on vinyl.
I think I'm bought in just because it seems to be what people who like music as much as I do listen to...but can anyone educate me?
I feel like I will buy vinyl going forward, but I will probably only do that for bands/albums that I LOVE as opposed to all the music I consume.
people romanticize, talk about a warmth, a richness of sound, how album artwork was better with a larger canvas, whatever...i don't really get it, etiher. vinyl to me means scratches, hisses, pops, and the sound of a needle passing through a groove.
having said that, in my computer room i still have my trusty 30 year old technics direct drive slq-200 turntable with a fairly new cartridge hooked up to my 33 year old pioneer sx-650 receiver with 33 year old (twice refurbished) pioneer hpm-40 speakers, so as soon as it arrives i'm ready to spin the black circle. :thumbsup:
Quote from: slappymoe on Apr 14, 2011, 02:34 PM
Quote from: firesofcanning on Apr 14, 2011, 01:10 PM
So...as a long time music lover and listener, but one who didn't grow up in the age of vinyl, what's so good/so much better about listening to music on vinyl.
I think I'm bought in just because it seems to be what people who like music as much as I do listen to...but can anyone educate me?
I feel like I will buy vinyl going forward, but I will probably only do that for bands/albums that I LOVE as opposed to all the music I consume.
people romanticize, talk about a warmth, a richness of sound, how album artwork was better with a larger canvas, whatever...i don't really get it, etiher. vinyl to me means scratches, hisses, pops, and the sound of a needle passing through a groove.
having said that, in my computer room i still have my trusty 30 year old technics direct drive slq-200 turntable with a fairly new cartridge hooked up to my 33 year old pioneer sx-650 receiver with 33 year old (twice refurbished) pioneer hpm-40 speakers, so as soon as it arrives i'm ready to spin the black circle. :thumbsup:
It's hard to pinpoint one thing that makes vinyl so attractive to me. It all started for me when I became a jazz junkie back in undergrad and I started collecting jazz on vinyl. I became hooked. The joy of spending hours in used record stores, enjoying the artwork on a much larger scale, and having something so physically impressive were all drawing points. It is also the 'romanticism' involved with appreciating an album as a whole instead of making playlists and skipping tracks.
There's something about dropping a needle on the record, having a few drinks and reading the liner notes and admiring the album cover lying on the couch that popping an mp3 player into a bose speaker dock can never replicate.
With that all said, if you plan on moving a lot in your near future, vinyl can become rather cumbersome just by the space it consumes and the weight of your ever growing collection.
EDIT: I should also add that it is the only medium that continues to see annual increases in sales providing revenue for artists (particularly smaller ones) and a means of sustenance for small record stores everywhere. I know big box stores are eying this trend closely where they may delve into the market when the profit incentive makes sense to them. I'd like to think that those that prefer their vinyl would continue to avoid that option when it becomes available.
One of my favorite album covers from one of my favorite albums of all time 8)
(http://bandonthewall.org/images/events/2803/gallery_large/endtroducing.jpg)
i have a technics 1200 from the days when i really wanted to be the next dj q-bert.
Quote from: slappymoe on Apr 14, 2011, 02:34 PM
Quote from: firesofcanning on Apr 14, 2011, 01:10 PM
So...as a long time music lover and listener, but one who didn't grow up in the age of vinyl, what's so good/so much better about listening to music on vinyl.
I think I'm bought in just because it seems to be what people who like music as much as I do listen to...but can anyone educate me?
I feel like I will buy vinyl going forward, but I will probably only do that for bands/albums that I LOVE as opposed to all the music I consume.
people romanticize, talk about a warmth, a richness of sound, how album artwork was better with a larger canvas, whatever...i don't really get it, etiher. vinyl to me means scratches, hisses, pops, and the sound of a needle passing through a groove.
having said that, in my computer room i still have my trusty 30 year old technics direct drive slq-200 turntable with a fairly new cartridge hooked up to my 33 year old pioneer sx-650 receiver with 33 year old (twice refurbished) pioneer hpm-40 speakers, so as soon as it arrives i'm ready to spin the black circle. :thumbsup:
I get what you're saying about the noise, slappy, and I can sympathize having used a similar setup to your Pioneer system in the 80s and 90s (same Technics TT!). However, the difference to me can be heard at VOLUME, and especially with higher quality equipment (not that I have anything special now). When I play digital music, even from CDs, I hear distortion at high levels that I do not hear when listening to records, but of course that could go back to the quality of my digital equipment. That said, the romanticism and nostalgia and art factor in a big way for me too.
Quote from: subinai on Apr 14, 2011, 02:51 PM
i have a technics 1200 from the days when i really wanted to be the next dj q-bert.
I love me some Qbert. I had a fungus infused chocolate bar experience seeing Qbert about 9 years ago that just blew my mind! :o
There really isn't a way to sell people on the vinyl movement without unleashing a flurry of cliches. The best way to see if vinyl is for you is to just find someone with a turntable and a decent amp and speakers, get them to toss on an album, and crank it. This is what sold me on vinyl. If, like me, you notice the difference, then vinyl is for you!
I also need to make a purchase. It will be fun enough explaining the $120 purchase for the albums and fan clubto my wife , but then also explaining it means I also need a player, now that will be a conversation.
Quote from: markcel on Apr 14, 2011, 03:03 PM
I also need to make a purchase. It will be fun enough explaining the $120 purchase for the albums and fan clubto my wife , but then also explaining it means I also need a player, now that will be a conversation.
You could get a decent one for $100. It's not going to be some crazy audiophile player, but it'll do the job and sound decent.
When Paul Weller's eponymous CD came out (whoa, back in 1992) one of the tracks ends (cosmos?) with like 10 minutes of nothing but the sound of an LP stuck in the groove like it would it the arm weren't automatic, just crackling and making "that sound". Then all of a sudden there's like 15 more seconds of the song to rock out to. It's awesome. But the point is, the Modfather gets it. :thumbsup:
What's a record player?
Quote from: Ruckus on Apr 14, 2011, 02:57 PM
Quote from: subinai on Apr 14, 2011, 02:51 PM
i have a technics 1200 from the days when i really wanted to be the next dj q-bert.
I love me some Qbert. I had a fungus infused chocolate bar experience seeing Qbert about 9 years ago that just blew my mind! :o
hahaha was that the skratch: the movie tour? i went to one of those shows.
Quote from: Ruckus on Apr 14, 2011, 02:50 PM
Quote from: slappymoe on Apr 14, 2011, 02:34 PM
Quote from: firesofcanning on Apr 14, 2011, 01:10 PM
So...as a long time music lover and listener, but one who didn't grow up in the age of vinyl, what's so good/so much better about listening to music on vinyl.
I think I'm bought in just because it seems to be what people who like music as much as I do listen to...but can anyone educate me?
I feel like I will buy vinyl going forward, but I will probably only do that for bands/albums that I LOVE as opposed to all the music I consume.
people romanticize, talk about a warmth, a richness of sound, how album artwork was better with a larger canvas, whatever...i don't really get it, etiher. vinyl to me means scratches, hisses, pops, and the sound of a needle passing through a groove.
having said that, in my computer room i still have my trusty 30 year old technics direct drive slq-200 turntable with a fairly new cartridge hooked up to my 33 year old pioneer sx-650 receiver with 33 year old (twice refurbished) pioneer hpm-40 speakers, so as soon as it arrives i'm ready to spin the black circle. :thumbsup:
It's hard to pinpoint one thing that makes vinyl so attractive to me. It all started for me when I became a jazz junkie back in undergrad and I started collecting jazz on vinyl. I became hooked. The joy of spending hours in used record stores, enjoying the artwork on a much larger scale, and having something so physically impressive were all drawing points. It is also the 'romanticism' involved with appreciating an album as a whole instead of making playlists and skipping tracks.
There's something about dropping a needle on the record, having a few drinks and reading the liner notes and admiring the album cover lying on the couch that popping an mp3 player into a bose speaker dock can never replicate.
With that all said, if you plan on moving a lot in your near future, vinyl can become rather cumbersome just by the space it consumes and the weight of your ever growing collection.
EDIT: I should also add that it is the only medium that continues to see annual increases in sales providing revenue for artists (particularly smaller ones) and a means of sustenance for small record stores everywhere. I know big box stores are eying this trend closely where they may delve into the market when the profit incentive makes sense to them. I'd like to think that those that prefer their vinyl would continue to avoid that option when it becomes available.
One of my favorite album covers from one of my favorite albums of all time 8)
(http://bandonthewall.org/images/events/2803/gallery_large/endtroducing.jpg)
I think your last point is really the one that has me delving into Vinyl now. Since joining my band (The Fires Of - www.myspace.com/thefiresof (http://www.myspace.com/thefiresof) - I'm not above a shameless self-plug! hehe) and getting way more into the indie scene in Toronto, everyone seems to be obsessed with Vinyl. And everyone's got their album on Vinyl as well as CD. We only got CDs made up for our debut, but I'm thinking our next EP should probably have a Vinyl release as well... Either way, I'm excited to dive into Vinyl, and to start that with Circuital...did I mention that before!? :)
Quote from: Ruckus on Apr 14, 2011, 02:50 PM
Quote from: slappymoe on Apr 14, 2011, 02:34 PM
Quote from: firesofcanning on Apr 14, 2011, 01:10 PM
So...as a long time music lover and listener, but one who didn't grow up in the age of vinyl, what's so good/so much better about listening to music on vinyl.
I think I'm bought in just because it seems to be what people who like music as much as I do listen to...but can anyone educate me?
I feel like I will buy vinyl going forward, but I will probably only do that for bands/albums that I LOVE as opposed to all the music I consume.
people romanticize, talk about a warmth, a richness of sound, how album artwork was better with a larger canvas, whatever...i don't really get it, etiher. vinyl to me means scratches, hisses, pops, and the sound of a needle passing through a groove.
having said that, in my computer room i still have my trusty 30 year old technics direct drive slq-200 turntable with a fairly new cartridge hooked up to my 33 year old pioneer sx-650 receiver with 33 year old (twice refurbished) pioneer hpm-40 speakers, so as soon as it arrives i'm ready to spin the black circle. :thumbsup:
It's hard to pinpoint one thing that makes vinyl so attractive to me. It all started for me when I became a jazz junkie back in undergrad and I started collecting jazz on vinyl. I became hooked. The joy of spending hours in used record stores, enjoying the artwork on a much larger scale, and having something so physically impressive were all drawing points. It is also the 'romanticism' involved with appreciating an album as a whole instead of making playlists and skipping tracks.
There's something about dropping a needle on the record, having a few drinks and reading the liner notes and admiring the album cover lying on the couch that popping an mp3 player into a bose speaker dock can never replicate.
With that all said, if you plan on moving a lot in your near future, vinyl can become rather cumbersome just by the space it consumes and the weight of your ever growing collection.
EDIT: I should also add that it is the only medium that continues to see annual increases in sales providing revenue for artists (particularly smaller ones) and a means of sustenance for small record stores everywhere. I know big box stores are eying this trend closely where they may delve into the market when the profit incentive makes sense to them. I'd like to think that those that prefer their vinyl would continue to avoid that option when it becomes available.
One of my favorite album covers from one of my favorite albums of all time 8)
(http://bandonthewall.org/images/events/2803/gallery_large/endtroducing.jpg)
Yes! LOVE Endtroducing :thumbsup:
Even with a cheap setup the only clicks or pops you should hear are the lead in groove. Otherwise you probably just have some dust in the grooves nothing a good record brush can't fix. I love my vinyl. I got into vinyl after seeing Cameron Crowe's Almost Famous. I found a copy of Led Zeppelin III at a yard sale that summer for a nickel and from there on I have been hooked. Vinyl is about having something tangible, something you can appreciate and actually experience.
Quote from: TGMC421 on Apr 14, 2011, 08:16 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Apr 14, 2011, 02:50 PM
Quote from: slappymoe on Apr 14, 2011, 02:34 PM
Quote from: firesofcanning on Apr 14, 2011, 01:10 PM
So...as a long time music lover and listener, but one who didn't grow up in the age of vinyl, what's so good/so much better about listening to music on vinyl.
I think I'm bought in just because it seems to be what people who like music as much as I do listen to...but can anyone educate me?
I feel like I will buy vinyl going forward, but I will probably only do that for bands/albums that I LOVE as opposed to all the music I consume.
people romanticize, talk about a warmth, a richness of sound, how album artwork was better with a larger canvas, whatever...i don't really get it, etiher. vinyl to me means scratches, hisses, pops, and the sound of a needle passing through a groove.
having said that, in my computer room i still have my trusty 30 year old technics direct drive slq-200 turntable with a fairly new cartridge hooked up to my 33 year old pioneer sx-650 receiver with 33 year old (twice refurbished) pioneer hpm-40 speakers, so as soon as it arrives i'm ready to spin the black circle. :thumbsup:
It's hard to pinpoint one thing that makes vinyl so attractive to me. It all started for me when I became a jazz junkie back in undergrad and I started collecting jazz on vinyl. I became hooked. The joy of spending hours in used record stores, enjoying the artwork on a much larger scale, and having something so physically impressive were all drawing points. It is also the 'romanticism' involved with appreciating an album as a whole instead of making playlists and skipping tracks.
There's something about dropping a needle on the record, having a few drinks and reading the liner notes and admiring the album cover lying on the couch that popping an mp3 player into a bose speaker dock can never replicate.
With that all said, if you plan on moving a lot in your near future, vinyl can become rather cumbersome just by the space it consumes and the weight of your ever growing collection.
EDIT: I should also add that it is the only medium that continues to see annual increases in sales providing revenue for artists (particularly smaller ones) and a means of sustenance for small record stores everywhere. I know big box stores are eying this trend closely where they may delve into the market when the profit incentive makes sense to them. I'd like to think that those that prefer their vinyl would continue to avoid that option when it becomes available.
One of my favorite album covers from one of my favorite albums of all time 8)
(http://bandonthewall.org/images/events/2803/gallery_large/endtroducing.jpg)
Yes! LOVE Endtroducing :thumbsup:
that's one of my favorite albums! one of the very few of that genre (?) that i have..
Quote from: markcel on Apr 14, 2011, 03:03 PM
I also need to make a purchase. It will be fun enough explaining the $120 purchase for the albums and fan clubto my wife , but then also explaining it means I also need a player, now that will be a conversation.
that one i posted earlier from amazon that i have is onlt 100-120 and its decent enough with the right speakers, i like it and run Bose 301's through it
Quote from: subinai on Apr 14, 2011, 03:44 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Apr 14, 2011, 02:57 PM
Quote from: subinai on Apr 14, 2011, 02:51 PM
i have a technics 1200 from the days when i really wanted to be the next dj q-bert.
I love me some Qbert. I had a fungus infused chocolate bar experience seeing Qbert about 9 years ago that just blew my mind! :o
hahaha was that the skratch: the movie tour? i went to one of those shows.
Nice! I think it was. Man it was so long ago but I know I saw the Executioners and Qbert but I don't recall anyone else who opened. It was at Sonar. Skratch is a GREAT movie
Quote from: markcel on Apr 14, 2011, 03:03 PM
I also need to make a purchase. It will be fun enough explaining the $120 purchase for the albums and fan clubto my wife , but then also explaining it means I also need a player, now that will be a conversation.
Ditto. I don't want to buy a crappy USB turntable. I've heard nothing good about them.
I'm all over this one.
http://www.needledoctor.com/EAR-Disc-Master-Turntable?sc=2&category=45 (http://www.needledoctor.com/EAR-Disc-Master-Turntable?sc=2&category=45)
After my inherited Technics turntable kicked the bucket last year, I went for the Sony USB one (http://www.amazon.com/Sony-PS-LX300USB-Stereo-Turntable-Black/dp/B0015HOFZI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1302887487&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Sony-PS-LX300USB-Stereo-Turntable-Black/dp/B0015HOFZI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1302887487&sr=1-1)). Despite good reviews on Amazon, this turntable crapped out after only a year (although to be fair tt may have had something to do with the chaos of moving apartments).
I'm in the market for a new table and I'm thinking about stepping up to the next level. Is the audio quality that much better on more expensive models? How much of the sound has to do with other aspects of the setup (receiver, speakers, etc.)?
Quote from: Crispy on Apr 14, 2011, 02:57 PM
Quote from: slappymoe on Apr 14, 2011, 02:34 PM
Quote from: firesofcanning on Apr 14, 2011, 01:10 PM
So...as a long time music lover and listener, but one who didn't grow up in the age of vinyl, what's so good/so much better about listening to music on vinyl.
I think I'm bought in just because it seems to be what people who like music as much as I do listen to...but can anyone educate me?
I feel like I will buy vinyl going forward, but I will probably only do that for bands/albums that I LOVE as opposed to all the music I consume.
people romanticize, talk about a warmth, a richness of sound, how album artwork was better with a larger canvas, whatever...i don't really get it, etiher. vinyl to me means scratches, hisses, pops, and the sound of a needle passing through a groove.
having said that, in my computer room i still have my trusty 30 year old technics direct drive slq-200 turntable with a fairly new cartridge hooked up to my 33 year old pioneer sx-650 receiver with 33 year old (twice refurbished) pioneer hpm-40 speakers, so as soon as it arrives i'm ready to spin the black circle. :thumbsup:
I get what you're saying about the noise, slappy, and I can sympathize having used a similar setup to your Pioneer system in the 80s and 90s (same Technics TT!). However, the difference to me can be heard at VOLUME, and especially with higher quality equipment (not that I have anything special now). When I play digital music, even from CDs, I hear distortion at high levels that I do not hear when listening to records, but of course that could go back to the quality of my digital equipment. That said, the romanticism and nostalgia and art factor in a big way for me too.
so, what i'm hearing is that i need to turn it all the way up to 11. well, hope my neighbors enjoy the new album. :beer:
Quote from: Caseydog on Apr 15, 2011, 12:45 PM
I'm all over this one.
http://www.needledoctor.com/EAR-Disc-Master-Turntable?sc=2&category=45 (http://www.needledoctor.com/EAR-Disc-Master-Turntable?sc=2&category=45)
I wonder if we order 2 or more at the same time if we get a discount?