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Title: Menomena
Post by: capt. scotty on Apr 22, 2011, 09:46 PM
Anybody else listen to this band?!

I searched the forum, and basically found nothing. Heard about them bc of a  "best of 2010" album draft a few months ago, and Ive been pretty hooked since. Few 2011 albums have grabbed me, so Ive probably listened to Menomena's last 2 albums - Friend & Foe and Mines - more than anything this year. The Pelican was the song that got me hooked at first, and Muscle 'N Flo is the song that has made me want to listen to Menomena pretty much daily the last few months. The last vid is from a NYC show last yr, a few songs from their last album that are all great as well. I cant believe this band doesnt have more fanfare.

Menomena - Muscle'n Flo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jvMdFql18U#)

The Pelican - Menomena in Juan's Basement (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9MMJqb84LE#)

Menomena - TAOS / BOTE / Evil Bee (Live in NYC) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUv_Npv2oto#ws)
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: slimsloslider on Apr 23, 2011, 04:26 AM
love the hell outta this band. i've only seen them twice, but both times were incredible. my wife and i really connected over them when we first started dating and we saw them on our honeymoon. here's a video i love of a choir that backed them up at bumbershoot 4 years ago.

Rehearsing Our Choir (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWEsduQ57OI#)
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: kotchishm on Mar 22, 2012, 01:42 PM
Should be a new album this year! They apparently finished it in February.  Without Brent though
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: Devil Ledbetter on Mar 22, 2012, 03:57 PM
I absolutely adore them. I can even play Rotten Hell on my guitar.

You haven't lived until you run to Twenty-one Cell Revolt.
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: MrWhippy on Mar 22, 2012, 05:10 PM
I've been meaning to check these guys out given that I might get the chance to see them at Coachella next month.  Given the videos and these recommendations, I'll definitely make an effort to catch their set.
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: kotchishm on Mar 23, 2012, 12:24 PM
Quote from: MrWhippy on Mar 22, 2012, 05:10 PM
I've been meaning to check these guys out given that I might get the chance to see them at Coachella next month.  Given the videos and these recommendations, I'll definitely make an effort to catch their set.

If you only buy one album you gotta choose between "Mines" and "Friend & Foe"...I give the slight edge to Mines
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: Devil Ledbetter on Mar 23, 2012, 04:39 PM
Quote from: kotchishm on Mar 23, 2012, 12:24 PM
Quote from: MrWhippy on Mar 22, 2012, 05:10 PM
I've been meaning to check these guys out given that I might get the chance to see them at Coachella next month.  Given the videos and these recommendations, I'll definitely make an effort to catch their set.

If you only buy one album you gotta choose between "Mines" and "Friend & Foe"...I give the slight edge to Mines
Mines is a hair more accessible than Friend & Foe, but if I could only take one to a desert island, it would be Friend & Foe. And then I'd cry because I had to leave Mines and I am the Fun Blame Monster behind.
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: capt. scotty on Oct 08, 2012, 06:04 AM
New album is phemenomenal...Im way behind this year, but this is the first time in a long time a band Ive already liked surpassed my expectations by a long shot. Lately (the last few years), it has felt like a ton of my favorite bands have severely disappointed with their last album (Dr Dog is the only exception I can think of, although Circuital was a nice comeback for MMJ).

Moms has the hooks of Friend & Foe, yet more layered like their last album Mines, making this IMO their most interesting album musically to date. They knocked it out the park with lyrics and an album about difficult relationships, family ties, and just emotional struggle. Dare I call it a concept album?! With the departure of 1 of the 3 founding members, hard to believe this album only comes from a duo. I figured they got at least one new band member, but after hearing this album, Im so glad they didnt. Certainly their most personal album to date.

Yeah, actually this is just their best album period so far  :bath:

Menomena - Plumage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSvs7tBqDVA#ws)

Menomena - Skintercourse (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKA7XgfX17g#)
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: kotchishm on Oct 08, 2012, 09:36 AM
I agree this is probably their strongest album.  I love it.  Pique is just fantastic
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: Northern Neighbour on Oct 08, 2012, 10:13 AM
Their last two albums have been very strong.  They've gone away from the quirky indie pop sound to an indie pop sound with trip-hop textures.  It's really working for them.
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: exist10z on Oct 08, 2012, 06:43 PM
Agree with everyone here, the new album is great.  Pique is just amazing, but really all the tracks are pretty strong.  Was worried about the loss of a founding member of the band, but that fear appears to have been unfounded.  Like others have said, not only don't I feel like they are 'missing' anything from the sound, it feels like a small step forward while remaining truly Menomena.

As for the older albums, if I had to choose it would be Friend and Foe, but Mines is really good too, and if you haven't heard I Am The Fun Blame Monster you're really missing out.

My one complaint, I just saw them at The El Rey in Los Angeles, and they didn't play Wet and Rusting, which is probably my favorite song of theirs.  I had looked at past setlists and they don't normally play it, so I was expecting not to heard it, but it was still disappointing.  Otherwise an amazing show, lots of energy live, lots of fun, and great musicianship.

"It's hard to take risks, with a pessimist..."
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: Ob1jacobe on Oct 09, 2012, 03:01 PM
I am loving the new album.  I will have to update my top album of '12 list soon.  They are amazing.  Going back and listening to "mines" & "friends and foe" and this could be a new favorite band for me. 

I love discovering a band that just resinates with you.  Last year it was White Denim.  Now i need to figure out how to pronounce their name :)
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: exist10z on Oct 09, 2012, 04:34 PM
It is awesome when you find a band that resonates, it's like finding a priceless treasure, even if it only gives you that feeling for a few months or years.  I think a discussion about this effect is going on in another thread...

At first I thought it was: Men-O-Meen-Ah

Then I thought: Men-O-me-Nah

But I am pretty sure it's actually: meh-na-meh-na

Whatever, the music speaks for itself - creative, unique, and original...
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: capt. scotty on Oct 09, 2012, 05:12 PM
Was at school all day, got back a little bit ago. Gotta work overnight at the hospital at 11, so I only have a couple hours to relax before a much needed nap before work tonight. Pretty much had to just throw on Moms. I think Im going to be listening to this daily for awhile. So much still to digest.

Exist10z did a good explanation of the pronounciation, I didnt know how to say it at first either. Listen to I think the first vid I posted in the OP, they say it in there. Its like "phenomenal", except sub an M for the Ph and chop off the L.

As for Wet and Rusting, pretty sure its a Brent Knopf song, so thats probably why they arent playing it live. Id guess they are doing that with most if not all of his songs, not like they really have a hit. Like everyone else, I was worried about how his loss would affect the band, but if there was 1 member to lose, Id pick him. Justin Harris is the most obvious integral part of the band, but I dont think Danny Seim's robot-like driving rhythms can be overlooked. With how tight their music and style is, he even stands out sometimes. I might be wrong, but I got the feeling Harris and Knopf wrote pretty much everything prior to this album. I read that Harris and Seim each wrote 5 songs for Moms though. Maybe he was writing more than I realize, but its hard to tell who wrote which songs here - a positive for me. Based on things I read around when Knopf left last year, the band just wasnt getting along. They didnt even record Mines together, they just sent updated recordings to one another and kept progressing, so not surprising they only released 2 albums between 2005-2011, a period when they should have been trying to get out there as much as possible. After hearing this album, hard to say it wasnt a good thing that Knopf left. The band sounds re-invigorated with a feeling that theyre out to prove something.

Didnt realize they were playing in Philly tomorrow until last night. Really want to hit that up!
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: Jon T. on Oct 09, 2012, 05:17 PM
duh

The Muppet Show, Mahna Mahna and the Snowths (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM89T74MPnE#)
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: EverythingChanges on Oct 20, 2012, 01:30 PM
Nice find guys, these guys rock!  Musle n' Flow and Taos are epic!  I love how different they sound.
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: EverythingChanges on Oct 20, 2012, 01:33 PM
Btw, is it pronounced (men-O-men_A) or (mean-O-mean-A) or (men-nom-men-A)?
Title: Menomena
Post by: smhoffmann02 on Oct 21, 2012, 09:45 PM
I checked them out online based on Forum recommendations and just couldn't get into them. Will have to give these guys another listen.
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: EverythingChanges on Oct 21, 2012, 11:01 PM
Quote from: smhoffmann02 on Oct 21, 2012, 09:45 PM
I checked them out online based on Forum recommendations and just couldn't get into them. Will have to give these guys another listen.

They were first recommended to me by fellow forum goers, but I couldn't get into their sound either.  It seemed like it was lacking melody or a fluidity of sorts.  However, I just recently decided to give these guys another listen.

I discovered Five Little Rooms, One Horse, Dirty Cartoons, Taos, Plumage and so on.  I love these guys now and my journey is just starting.  I now have purchased Friend and Foe, Mines, and Moms!  Can't wait to really listen to these guys.  It is a band that takes getting used to and a a collection of songs that you will discover new things about upon every listen.

They created a computer program that builds their rhythm and bass sounds.  They take that and form it into a song.  They are completely unique, which is something I am always looking for.  Hence why I love MMJ soooooo damn much.
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: exist10z on Oct 21, 2012, 11:17 PM
The music is pretty non-standard.  I am not a musician, but maybe it's the time signatures?  I don't know, but the songs don't exactly progress as you'd expect and sounds aren't exactly where you'd think they'd be.  At least that's the best way I can describe it, though I would say that's more for the first two albums than the past two, but true for all to some extent.  Also of course there's the use of both horns and electronics, which is a strange combination some might find off putting.  But not me.

My two favorite songs, also the first two I heard, are 'Muscle n' Flow' and 'Wet and Rusting', which frankly feature many of the stranger aspects of the music.  It might not have hit me immediately, but once it did - wow.  It all made sense.

Anyone I guess I would say it's an acquired taste, but you'll probably only acquire it if you're pretty open to different music.  It rocks though too, can't dismiss that aspect.  Seeing them live for the first time few weeks ago was great too, they are truly musicians and can play the music as proficiently live, and with as much energy and emotion, as recorded.  I think they're making some of the most interesting and rewarding music today.
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: exist10z on Oct 21, 2012, 11:20 PM
Oh, and if you haven't seen their 'takeaway' show in a little courtyard in Paris, you're missing out.  So cool.  Shitty at linking things, but it's on YouTube.
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: EverythingChanges on Oct 22, 2012, 12:12 AM
Ohh to be a machine,
Ohh to be wanted, to be useful
Ohh to be a machine...
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: sweatboard on Oct 22, 2012, 12:24 AM
I always think these dudes next album is going to be the one that gets me...but no!  I got through three songs and decided to just put on Tame Impala...ahhhh much better!
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: exist10z on Oct 22, 2012, 01:34 AM
Quote from: sweatboard on Oct 22, 2012, 12:24 AM
I always think these dudes next album is going to be the one that gets me...but no!  I got through three songs and decided to just put on Tame Impala...ahhhh much better!

Funny you say that.  Tame Impala got good reviews, everyone here seems to love it, and it sounds from descriptions like the kind of music I would like; but played some samples and listened to some YouTube, and meh.  I am not done with Tame Impala, I am gonna give it a longer trial for sure and hope it grabs me, but it's just funny that mentioned them.

You never know what's going strike a chord, as it were.  We obviously all love MMJ, but tastes will vary on other music obviously...
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: EverythingChanges on Oct 22, 2012, 11:36 AM
Here's a great interview about Moms and how the band feels about Brent leaving:

http://pitchfork.com/features/update/8885-menomena/ (http://pitchfork.com/features/update/8885-menomena/)

Apparently, Justin was going to write about masturbation for the new LP.  Haha, it is a good read!
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: Fully on Oct 22, 2012, 01:25 PM
Quote from: EverythingChanges on Oct 22, 2012, 11:36 AM
Here's a great interview about Moms and how the band feels about Brent leaving:

http://pitchfork.com/features/update/8885-menomena/ (http://pitchfork.com/features/update/8885-menomena/)

Apparently, Justin was going to write about masturbation for the new LP.  Haha, it is a good read!
Thanks for posting this. I just started listening to Moms today. I like what little I've had time to listen to so far.
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: EverythingChanges on Oct 22, 2012, 06:10 PM
Quote from: Fully on Oct 22, 2012, 01:25 PM
Quote from: EverythingChanges on Oct 22, 2012, 11:36 AM
Here's a great interview about Moms and how the band feels about Brent leaving:

http://pitchfork.com/features/update/8885-menomena/ (http://pitchfork.com/features/update/8885-menomena/)

Apparently, Justin was going to write about masturbation for the new LP.  Haha, it is a good read!
Thanks for posting this. I just started listening to Moms today. I like what little I've had time to listen to so far.

I'm just now discovering them as well, I bought their three newest LPs and I am enjoying them all.  Check out Five Little Rooms, Tithe, One Horse, Wet and Rusting, and Heavy is As Heavy Does.  Those are some great tunes to start with imo.  Maybe not One Horse, but damn do I love that one!
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: EverythingChanges on Oct 22, 2012, 07:44 PM
Thanks you Scotty for the recommendation of these dudes!  I can't stop listening to their stuff.  They are quite the unique band. 

Favorites so far:
One Horse
Five Little Rooms
Taos
Evil Bee
Tithe
Heavy is As Heavy Does
Muscle n' Flow
Pelican
Plumage
Dirty Cartoons
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: exist10z on Oct 22, 2012, 09:25 PM
Quote from: EverythingChanges on Oct 22, 2012, 07:44 PM
Thanks you Scotty for the recommendation of these dudes!  I can't stop listening to their stuff.  They are quite the unique band. 

Favorites so far:
One Horse
Five Little Rooms
Taos
Evil Bee
Tithe
Heavy is As Heavy Does
Muscle n' Flow
Pelican
Plumage
Dirty Cartoons

You have lot's to listen to all at once, but when you get a chance, check out E. Is Stable and The Strongest Man In The World from the first album.
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: EverythingChanges on Oct 22, 2012, 09:46 PM
Quote from: exist10z on Oct 22, 2012, 09:25 PM
Quote from: EverythingChanges on Oct 22, 2012, 07:44 PM
Thanks you Scotty for the recommendation of these dudes!  I can't stop listening to their stuff.  They are quite the unique band. 

Favorites so far:
One Horse
Five Little Rooms
Taos
Evil Bee
Tithe
Heavy is As Heavy Does
Muscle n' Flow
Pelican
Plumage
Dirty Cartoons

You have lot's to listen to all at once, but when you get a chance, check out E. Is Stable and The Strongest Man In The World from the first album.

Affirmative, will do!
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: EverythingChanges on Oct 25, 2012, 08:51 PM
I just listened to Strongest Man in the World....  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: So different, so beautiful!
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: exist10z on Oct 25, 2012, 10:44 PM
Quote from: EverythingChanges on Oct 25, 2012, 08:51 PM
I just listened to Strongest Man in the World....  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: So different, so beautiful!

Indeed.

They still play it live, played it when I saw them last month, it was amazing.
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: EverythingChanges on Oct 26, 2012, 11:05 AM
Quote from: exist10z on Oct 25, 2012, 10:44 PM
Quote from: EverythingChanges on Oct 25, 2012, 08:51 PM
I just listened to Strongest Man in the World....  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: So different, so beautiful!

Indeed.

They still play it live, played it when I saw them last month, it was amazing.

I was looking for dates in Indiana, but they don't have any atm.  It seems like most bands avoid this state unfortunately.  I can only recall MMJ coming here once  :cry:. I typically have to catch MMJ when they roll through Louisville.
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: EverythingChanges on Oct 27, 2012, 09:22 PM
My dream set if they come somewhere close to me.  However, I am not sure if they will play Evil Bee or Wet and Rusting Etc., since Brent isn't with them for vocals  :undecided:.  I hope that isn't true.  They could play those just fine I am sure.  Vocals might be a bit off, but that is no reason to trash those wonderful tunes of theirs!

Strongest Man In the World
The Pelican
Taos
Plumage
The Late Grate Libido
Capsule
Wet and Rusting
Don't Mess With Latexas
Skintercourse
Dirty Cartoons
Rotten Hell
West
E. Is Stable
Pique
Five Little Rooms
Heavy Is As Heavy Does
The Monkey's Back
Boyscout'n
Evil Bee

Encore:
Musle n' Flo
Queen Black Acid
Tithe
One Horse
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: exist10z on Oct 27, 2012, 10:20 PM
Yeah, that would be a great set, but they aren't the Jacket, you're looking at an hour and a half show max.  If you want to see what they're actually playing, you can check Setlist.com, but it doesn't seem like they're going to be playing Wet and Rusting anymore, but they could do it easily, the voices are similar. Oh well...
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: EverythingChanges on Oct 27, 2012, 10:36 PM
Quote from: exist10z on Oct 27, 2012, 10:20 PM
Yeah, that would be a great set, but they aren't the Jacket, you're looking at an hour and a half show max.  If you want to see what they're actually playing, you can check Setlist.com, but it doesn't seem like they're going to be playing Wet and Rsuting anymore, but they could do it easily, the voices are similar. Oh well...

That set is only 2 hoursish.  I know it is unlikely, but imo if you are the main act of the night you owe it to your fans to play for two hours minimum.  I will never understand why some bands will only play for 90mins tops.  I saw Black Keys last March and they were great, but man for how big they've become they really have no clue how to really play a good show.  Especially when their set was 85% El Camino and Brothers (Their newest albums) with barely any tunes from all of their older stuff.  Their set was uncreative and short.  When I saw Rush in 2010, they had no warm-up bands before them and they played a 3 hour set with an intermission in the middle.  That is how I think a lot of bands (that have really made it) should approach their live sets.  Menomena isn't quite there yet, but I would love to see them achieve that.  The two of them have recently said that this tour has been their favorite to date.  I am glad they are enjoying themselves this time around.

I've already inspected setlist.com, which is why I was afraid that they are avoiding Evil Bee, Wet and Rusting, E. is Stable etc.  I understand why they would leave them out on this tour.  They need to re-find themselves and they are enjoying the new setup with just the two of them; nevertheless, they will eventually have to pull those songs back out.  They are too grand to leave in the dark all dusty and forgotten!
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: capt. scotty on Oct 29, 2012, 11:00 PM
Glad to make another fan EverythingChanges!! You seem to know their catalogue better than myself at this point!  :grin:

I caught them a couple weeks ago in Philly, great show. Was able to walk up like 5ft from the stage not too much before they came on. Very tight, sound was great. Opened with Muscle N Flo, my favorite song. I dont recall, and didnt even the next day  :tongue:, the exact setlist, but I felt like they primarily played Moms songs (def played Plumage, Capsule, Pique, Heavy Is, Tantalus, and Latexas..probably played 1 more but Ive listened to this album and Mines so much recently, it all blurs together). The encore was One Horse (which was awesome and makes me wish they jammed out more of their other songs) and The Pelican. They played Queen Black Acid and TAOS, but I dont think they played more than 1 other song off Mines. Besides the aforementioned 2 on Friend and Foe, they also played Weird and Rotten Hell. I think they played Boyscout'n but that might be wishful thinking. Considering thats about 15 songs, Im guessing thats about right.

Happy to have a band Ive discovered somewhat recently and finally see live just start to blow my mind  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: EverythingChanges on Oct 30, 2012, 09:12 AM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Oct 29, 2012, 11:00 PM
Glad to make another fan EverythingChanges!! You seem to know their catalogue better than myself at this point!  :grin:

I caught them a couple weeks ago in Philly, great show. Was able to walk up like 5ft from the stage not too much before they came on. Very tight, sound was great. Opened with Muscle N Flo, my favorite song. I dont recall, and didnt even the next day  :tongue:, the exact setlist, but I felt like they primarily played Moms songs (def played Plumage, Capsule, Pique, Heavy Is, Tantalus, and Latexas..probably played 1 more but Ive listened to this album and Mines so much recently, it all blurs together). The encore was One Horse (which was awesome and makes me wish they jammed out more of their other songs) and The Pelican. They played Queen Black Acid and TAOS, but I dont think they played more than 1 other song off Mines. Besides the aforementioned 2 on Friend and Foe, they also played Weird and Rotten Hell. I think they played Boyscout'n but that might be wishful thinking. Considering thats about 15 songs, Im guessing thats about right.

Happy to have a band Ive discovered somewhat recently and finally see live just start to blow my mind  :thumbsup:

Haha, yeah I've bought their 4 LPs and have listened to them religously for the past 2 weeks.  They have some really great songs and their sound is wonderfully unique.  I'd love to see them live and it's all good if all they play is Moms that album is rockin' hard!

I'm jealous you had the chance to see them live.  Bands seem to avoid Indiana for the most part. I can never figure out why MMJ avoids this state so much.  They've been here once as far as I am aware.  Indianapolis is Carl's hometown and Louisville is only a 2 hour drive south of Indy.   :huh:
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: capt. scotty on Oct 31, 2012, 10:10 PM
It was actually pretty coincidental. I first heard of and quickly got into Menomena about a year and a half ago. I remember hearing/watching a promo for Moms maybe 6 months ago or so just randomly wondering what they were up to, and low and behold a few weeks back I find out they released their new album couple weeks earlier, Im blown away by it, and theyre playing only a couple hours away on the only night that week I could see them 2 days later. Needless to say, way too perfect to miss out.

Hard to say why MMJ especially skips out on Indy. The proximity to Louisville and larger other midwestern cities probably has something to do with it, but Phish hits up Deer Creek like clockwork and I think at this point MMJ could sell that place pretty well during summer tour.
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: EverythingChanges on Nov 01, 2012, 09:36 AM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Oct 31, 2012, 10:10 PM
It was actually pretty coincidental. I first heard of and quickly got into Menomena about a year and a half ago. I remember hearing/watching a promo for Moms maybe 6 months ago or so just randomly wondering what they were up to, and low and behold a few weeks back I find out they released their new album couple weeks earlier, Im blown away by it, and theyre playing only a couple hours away on the only night that week I could see them 2 days later. Needless to say, way too perfect to miss out.

Hard to say why MMJ especially skips out on Indy. The proximity to Louisville and larger other midwestern cities probably has something to do with it, but Phish hits up Deer Creek like clockwork and I think at this point MMJ could sell that place pretty well during summer tour.

I haven't heard that venue referred to as Deer Creek for awhile.  Yeah, they played at the lawn at White River State Park during the summer of 2011, but that is the only time I can recall them showing up in Indiana.  At least their hometown is just a 2 hourish drive from my home, so I can easily catch them there occasionally.

I'm really getting into Moms right now, Pique and Don't Mess With Latexas are great jam songs.  I figure they would sound really great live. 
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: capt. scotty on Nov 01, 2012, 10:12 PM
Quote from: EverythingChanges on Nov 01, 2012, 09:36 AM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Oct 31, 2012, 10:10 PM
It was actually pretty coincidental. I first heard of and quickly got into Menomena about a year and a half ago. I remember hearing/watching a promo for Moms maybe 6 months ago or so just randomly wondering what they were up to, and low and behold a few weeks back I find out they released their new album couple weeks earlier, Im blown away by it, and theyre playing only a couple hours away on the only night that week I could see them 2 days later. Needless to say, way too perfect to miss out.

Hard to say why MMJ especially skips out on Indy. The proximity to Louisville and larger other midwestern cities probably has something to do with it, but Phish hits up Deer Creek like clockwork and I think at this point MMJ could sell that place pretty well during summer tour.

I haven't heard that venue referred to as Deer Creek for awhile.  Yeah, they played at the lawn at White River State Park during the summer of 2011, but that is the only time I can recall them showing up in Indiana.  At least their hometown is just a 2 hourish drive from my home, so I can easily catch them there occasionally.

I'm am really getting into Moms right now, Pique and Don't Mess With Latexas are great jam songs.  I figure they would sound really great live.

Oh yeah man, I keep it old school. If its at all possible, I avoid/cant stand calling the venues with corporate, basically advertisement names when their history is so much better.

Everything sounded good live, but they kept everything pretty tight. I dont recall much jamming or extending songs noticeably beyond the album version besides One Horse. This was probably the only part of the show that disappointed me, I figured they wouldve taken a few songs out more.

One thing that was really clarified for me was Danny Seim's songs and vocals. I really think to a degree, him, Harris, and Knopf sound similar enough, but seeing them live really contrasted that. I said a couple weeks ago I didnt think he wrote many of their songs and was surprised he wrote 5 off Moms, but in retrospect Im pretty sure he has more songs on Mines and F&F than Knopf, which I didnt think was the case. Now, its clear to me that Harris' songs are all the odd songs on Moms, and Seim's are all the even numbered songs. Listening to Mines and F&F, I feel like I can pretty much identify who wrote/sang the song now as well.

I always knew some of Harris' songs were my real favorites (Muscle, Pelican, QBAcid, TAOS, etc), but after this realization I wouldnt have thought it to be this much. As far as Moms goes, Pique, Plumage, Heavy Is, Skintercourse, and One Horse are likely my 5 favorites. 4 of those are Harris songs.
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: exist10z on Nov 01, 2012, 11:51 PM
Yeah, I would say comparing across time and albums the voices are similar enough that they could play any of them live, which is what disappointed me with a few of those they didn't play (Wet), but they have enough that it didn't bum me out when I saw them live.

On the voice note, does anyone else notice how similar (one or both of them) some songs sound to Damon Albarn?  It's almost as if on a few of the songs they are purposely trying for that voice/inflection.  I don't mind it in the least, as I love everything Albarn has done.  When I hear some of the songs from Moms I think, 'that sounds like a song off the next album Blur would release'. Especially the style progression I would imagine from the last Blur album (Think Tank - which is amazing), through Gorillaz, to what would be a new Blur album.  I just imagine it would sound something like a couple of the songs on Moms.  Maybe it's just me...
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: exist10z on Nov 12, 2012, 10:10 AM
If you're in the middle of the country, Menomena just added dates to their tour for February and March following their European leg.  See them if you can...
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: EverythingChanges on Nov 13, 2012, 12:22 AM
Quote from: exist10z on Nov 12, 2012, 10:10 AM
If you're in the middle of the country, Menomena just added dates to their tour for February and March following their European leg.  See them if you can...

Beautiful! Thanks for the heads up!

This will be a gift from my girlfriend for Christmas!   :grin:
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: exist10z on Nov 13, 2012, 12:39 AM
Quote from: EverythingChanges on Nov 13, 2012, 12:22 AM
Quote from: exist10z on Nov 12, 2012, 10:10 AM
If you're in the middle of the country, Menomena just added dates to their tour for February and March following their European leg.  See them if you can...

Beautiful! Thanks for the heads up!

This will be a gift from my girlfriend for Christmas!   :grin:

Yeah, I thought I remembered you being in flyover country.  It looks like they're playing Iowa, Kentucky, Indiana, Missouri, Wisconsin and Colorado, plus maybe a couple I can't remember.  Enjoy...
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: EverythingChanges on Nov 13, 2012, 05:19 PM
Quote from: exist10z on Nov 13, 2012, 12:39 AM
Quote from: EverythingChanges on Nov 13, 2012, 12:22 AM
Quote from: exist10z on Nov 12, 2012, 10:10 AM
If you're in the middle of the country, Menomena just added dates to their tour for February and March following their European leg.  See them if you can...

Beautiful! Thanks for the heads up!

This will be a gift from my girlfriend for Christmas!   :grin:

Yeah, I thought I remembered you being in flyover country.  It looks like they're playing Iowa, Kentucky, Indiana, Missouri, Wisconsin and Colorado, plus maybe a couple I can't remember.  Enjoy...

Will do! The tickets are ridiculously affordable.  About $15 I think.  That is the beauty of clubs and bars.
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: Ob1jacobe on Nov 20, 2012, 02:26 PM
Quote from: exist10z on Nov 01, 2012, 11:51 PM
Yeah, I would say comparing across time and albums the voices are similar enough that they could play any of them live, which is what disappointed me with a few of those they didn't play (Wet), but they have enough that it didn't bum me out when I saw them live.

On the voice note, does anyone else notice how similar (one or both of them) some songs sound to Damon Albarn?  It's almost as if on a few of the songs they are purposely trying for that voice/inflection.  I don't mind it in the least, as I love everything Albarn has done.  When I hear some of the songs from Moms I think, 'that sounds like a song off the next album Blur would release'. Especially the style progression I would imagine from the last Blur album (Think Tank - which is amazing), through Gorillaz, to what would be a new Blur album.  I just imagine it would sound something like a couple of the songs on Moms.  Maybe it's just me...

Man,  as i posted earlier i am spending a lot of time on Blur.  I have been Gorillaz fan and just recently fallen in love with Blur.  I could not agree more about this comment.  In fact I had to dig through the forum to find how said it :)
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: exist10z on Nov 20, 2012, 03:37 PM
Quote from: Ob1jacobe on Nov 20, 2012, 02:26 PM
Quote from: exist10z on Nov 01, 2012, 11:51 PM
Yeah, I would say comparing across time and albums the voices are similar enough that they could play any of them live, which is what disappointed me with a few of those they didn't play (Wet), but they have enough that it didn't bum me out when I saw them live.

On the voice note, does anyone else notice how similar (one or both of them) some songs sound to Damon Albarn?  It's almost as if on a few of the songs they are purposely trying for that voice/inflection.  I don't mind it in the least, as I love everything Albarn has done.  When I hear some of the songs from Moms I think, 'that sounds like a song off the next album Blur would release'. Especially the style progression I would imagine from the last Blur album (Think Tank - which is amazing), through Gorillaz, to what would be a new Blur album.  I just imagine it would sound something like a couple of the songs on Moms.  Maybe it's just me...

Man,  as i posted earlier i am spending a lot of time on Blur.  I have been Gorillaz fan and just recently fallen in love with Blur.  I could not agree more about this comment.  In fact I had to dig through the forum to find how said it :)

I've been listening to Blur forever, well as long as they've been around, I am old enough to have been around for the early 'Manchester' wave in the late 80s and early 90s, and loved 'There's No Other Way'.  I kinda went Oasis after that and lost Blur for about 10 years.  But then my buddy turned me on to Think Tank, and I was right back on board (having by then dismissed Oasis pretty much).  Went back to all the stuff I missed in between.  Of course then I was on for all of Gorillaz, all of it seeming fresh and amazing.  Then Albarn's 'super-group' venture The Good The Bad and The Queen, which was also good. I think Albarn is pretty much a musical genius, as overused and cliche as that is, and look forward to anything he does.

So, not to hijack the Menomena discussion, but just to note that Moms is so great, and that it's high praise from me to say that it sounds like the progression Blur might make if they made another album (and continued on the line from Think Tank thru Gorillaz).  Moms sound original and quirky, in the best possible way, and whether they were going for it or not, sounding like Albarn is never a bad thing to me.
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: EverythingChanges on Feb 15, 2013, 01:39 AM
I just saw these guys plays on Valentine's day.  They fucking killed.  The audience was one of the best I have experienced as well.  The band even commented during the show on it.  They couldn't believe they had never played in Indiana before.  I think they'll be back  :grin:.

I met the band as well and shook hands with Justin! Super cool guy. 

If they come near any of you, try to go.  You will not regret it.

2/15 Columbus, OH
2/16 Louisville, KY
2/19 Asheville, NC
2/20 Durham, NC
2/21 Athens, GA
2/22 Birmingham, AL
2/23 Nashville, TN
2/26 St. Louis, MO
2/27 Columbia, MO
2/28 Kansas City, MO
3/01 Denver, CO
3/02 Salt Lake City, UT
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: capt. scotty on Feb 15, 2013, 10:25 PM
Quote from: EverythingChanges on Feb 15, 2013, 01:39 AM
I just saw these guys plays on Valentine's day.  They fucking killed.  The audience was one of the best I have experienced as well.  The band even commented during the show on it.  They couldn't believe they had never played in Indiana before.  I think they'll be back  :grin:.

I met the band as well and shook hands with Justin! Super cool guy. 

If they come near any of you, try to go.  You will not regret it.

2/15 Columbus, OH
2/16 Louisville, KY
2/19 Asheville, NC
2/20 Durham, NC
2/21 Athens, GA
2/22 Birmingham, AL
2/23 Nashville, TN
2/26 St. Louis, MO
2/27 Columbia, MO
2/28 Kansas City, MO
3/01 Denver, CO
3/02 Salt Lake City, UT

Glad you had a good time man!! Forget until re-reading thru this you got your Indiana show!  :beer:

Wish I saw this post earlier today though. Now that Im living in Pittsburgh for the time being, Columbus is only a little over 2 hours away and wouldve been totally do-able. Oh well, cant complain since I got to see them at least once this tour.
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: EverythingChanges on Feb 16, 2013, 01:23 AM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Feb 15, 2013, 10:25 PM
Quote from: EverythingChanges on Feb 15, 2013, 01:39 AM
I just saw these guys plays on Valentine's day.  They fucking killed.  The audience was one of the best I have experienced as well.  The band even commented during the show on it.  They couldn't believe they had never played in Indiana before.  I think they'll be back  :grin:.

I met the band as well and shook hands with Justin! Super cool guy. 

If they come near any of you, try to go.  You will not regret it.

2/15 Columbus, OH
2/16 Louisville, KY
2/19 Asheville, NC
2/20 Durham, NC
2/21 Athens, GA
2/22 Birmingham, AL
2/23 Nashville, TN
2/26 St. Louis, MO
2/27 Columbia, MO
2/28 Kansas City, MO
3/01 Denver, CO
3/02 Salt Lake City, UT

Glad you had a good time man!! Forget until re-reading thru this you got your Indiana show!  :beer:

Wish I saw this post earlier today though. Now that Im living in Pittsburgh for the time being, Columbus is only a little over 2 hours away and wouldve been totally do-able. Oh well, cant complain since I got to see them at least once this tour.

Yeah, my girlfriend wasn't into their music until the show and now she won't stop talking about how awesome it was.  It was definitely a show to remember.  I love this band now more than I already had.

Also, I did not realize Danny was that tall.  The man towers over the rest of the group.
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: ms. yvon on Sep 18, 2013, 01:30 AM
menonmena is touring the US now with helio sequence!  they'll be in san francisco at the great american music hall sept 28, and in los angeles sept 29.

am really excited to see menomena for the first time.  they and HS are pals from portland.  hoping there might be some on stage collaboration.  :cheesy:

you might recognize helio sequence as the band i'm always going on about.  FAB!
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: capt. scotty on Oct 01, 2013, 03:33 PM
Quote from: ms. yvon on Sep 18, 2013, 01:30 AM
menonmena is touring the US now with helio sequence!  they'll be in san francisco at the great american music hall sept 28, and in los angeles sept 29.

am really excited to see menomena for the first time.  they and HS are pals from portland.  hoping there might be some on stage collaboration.  :cheesy:

you might recognize helio sequence as the band i'm always going on about.  FAB!

Saw them last year for the first time and it was great. How did you like em?

Looks like theyll be in Charlotte, Raleigh, and DC a couple weekends from now but those are about the only dates I wont be able to swing. Damnit!

I'll have to check out this band Helio Sequence.
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: ms. yvon on Oct 11, 2013, 06:07 PM
they were terrific!  i saw the first night of the tour and wasn't familiar with their music so i was playing a bit of catch-up.  the second night i was on board from the first note.  they mixed up the set-list from the previous night.  the flow was a bit better.

wish i knew the set list.  there were a few songs i loved.  and helio.  well, they were gorgeous and bad ass.
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=the+helio+sequence+downward+spiral&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz35 (http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=the+helio+sequence+downward+spiral&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz35)
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: Crispy on Oct 11, 2013, 07:28 PM
Wow, that's a combo I would love to see...wish they were getting closer to me than Denver on a Thursday.
Title: Re: Menomena
Post by: EverythingChanges on Oct 17, 2013, 08:58 PM
This band is seriously one of the best things from the past decade.