It can be MMJ too, but what's the one show recording that you turn to most, your favorite? It can be an official release or a bootleg.
For me, without a doubt, it's the Rolling Stones 10/17/73 show in Brussels. It's pretty widely circulated and easy to find on the internet for download. You can also stream it here:
http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/the-rolling-stones/concerts/forest-national-october-17-1973.html (http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/the-rolling-stones/concerts/forest-national-october-17-1973.html)
I always go back to Bob Dylan's Hard Rain. Rolling Thunder Revue at its peak.
If it's not MMJ, it's Ween @ Stubbs or Zappa's Roxy & Elsewhere
Age 10-16 Kiss - Alive
Age 17-20 Tesla - Five Man Acoustic Jam
Age 21-25 Nirvana - Unplugged
Age 26-32 Paul Simon - Concert In The Park
Age 33-37 MMJ - Okonokos
The Doors 1967 live @the Matrix Club.....smokin'
Peter Tosh - Coming In Hot
if anybody wants these pm me....oh and bbill Wolfgangs Vault is a gem :thumbsup:
Live at Leeds by The Who followed closely by At Fillmore East by The Allman Brothers Band. Band of Gypsys is right in the mix too.
Some of these are video, but great documents of live performances nonetheless. Hard to choose just one, I guess if I had to, right now it'd be Wilco. I didn't even consider bootlegs, there are too many!
Van Morrison - It's Too Late To Stop Now (live in 1973)
Bob Dylan and The Band - Before The Flood (live in 1974) (I also love Hard Rain, too)
Wilco - Ashes of American Flags
MMJ - Okonokos
The Black Crowes - Into The Fog (live in 2005)
Pink Floyd - Live at Pompei
Derek and the Dominoes - Live at The Fillmore
Grateful Dead - Reckoning (acoustic live in 1980)
Allman Brothers - First Set (live in 1992)
Led Zeppelin - Live at Albert Hall 1970
The Band and friends - The Last Waltz
Rolling Stones - Ladies and Gentlemen (live in 1972)
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Allman Brothers - First Set (live in 1992)
It's a fine album and perhaps the best live document of the rebooted latter Allmans, but it pales when compared to the Duane-era stuff, or my name isn't Jaimoe, aka Jai Johanny Johanson. I must say that Warren Haynes and Betts are killer throughout as is Allen Woody. Gotta love Warren's inspiring slide on "Dreams". Too bad Betts' chops fell off dramatically by 2000.
Quote from: BH on Jun 02, 2011, 09:56 PM
Age 10-16 Kiss - Alive
Age 17-20 Tesla - Five Man Acoustic Jam
Age 21-25 Nirvana - Unplugged
Age 26-32 Paul Simon - Concert In The Park
Age 33-37 MMJ - Okonokos
Pearl Jam Seattle 2000 night 2 and Okonokos
I have fond memories of Tesla's Five Man Acoustical Jam - Tesla was my favorite (bar band at the Oasis Ballroom circa mid 80's in Sacramento) back when they were City Kidd!
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Quote from: Shug on Jun 02, 2011, 11:29 PM
Allman Brothers - First Set (live in 1992)
It's a fine album and perhaps the best live document of the rebooted latter Allmans, but it pales when compared to the Duane-era stuff, or my name isn't Jaimoe, aka Jai Johanny Johanson. I must say that Warren Haynes and Betts are killer throughout as is Allen Woody. Gotta love Warren's inspiring slide on "Dreams". Too bad Betts' chops fell off dramatically by 2000.
I understand most people are gonna favor the classic era Allmans with Duane, but there's something about the interaction between Warren and Dickey in the early 90s that, for me, tops what Duane and Dickey did. I know that's profanity to many, but its really what I think. If Duane had been around long enough to play on fully realized live versions of Blue Sky and Southbound and Melissa, I might feel differently. There are just too many classic Allman Brothers songs that came after the Duane era that At Fillmore East feels, to me, like its missing something.
Quote from: TheBigChicken on Jun 02, 2011, 10:31 PM
The Doors 1967 live @the Matrix Club.....smokin'
Peter Tosh - Coming In Hot
if anybody wants these pm me....oh and bbill Wolfgangs Vault is a gem :thumbsup:
There really are some great shows on there!
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Quote from: Jaimoe on Jun 02, 2011, 11:37 PM
Quote from: Shug on Jun 02, 2011, 11:29 PM
Allman Brothers - First Set (live in 1992)
It's a fine album and perhaps the best live document of the rebooted latter Allmans, but it pales when compared to the Duane-era stuff, or my name isn't Jaimoe, aka Jai Johanny Johanson. I must say that Warren Haynes and Betts are killer throughout as is Allen Woody. Gotta love Warren's inspiring slide on "Dreams". Too bad Betts' chops fell off dramatically by 2000.
I understand most people are gonna favor the classic era Allmans with Duane, but there's something about the interaction between Warren and Dickey in the early 90s that, for me, tops what Duane and Dickey did. I know that's profanity to many, but its really what I think. If Duane had been around long enough to play on fully realized live versions of Blue Sky and Southbound and Melissa, I might feel differently. There are just too many classic Allman Brothers songs that came after the Duane era that At Fillmore East feels, to me, like its missing something.
You can make that same argument about any band's live album(s) released at an early or mid career time frame. However, Live Dead is perhaps still the best Grateful Dead live LP, even without tunes from American Beauty and Working Man's Dead. Live at Leeds came out a year before Who's Next, but nobody thinks the album would have been better with "Won't Get Fooled Again" on it. The feel of Leeds would have been greatly altered and the Tommy stuff would have suffered. Heck, "Young Man Blues" may not have made the cut, and that would be a rock n roll tragedy.
The studio versions of "Jessica" and "Blue Sky" has never been equalled, and I've witnessed amazing live shows with the Allmans with Betts dueling Warren (I've even seen the Allmans with Chuck Leavell). The best thing about peak Allmans was that they put out incredible studio albums. At The Fillmore remains one of rock's most impressive and influential live efforts - some songs didn't take off until At The Fillmore was released such as "Elizabeth Reed". I must say that besides the spotty Seven Turns record, the Haynes/Woody/Betts era studio albums are all good to great (same with the live releases). On an aside, I have an original promo poster of First Set.
Heck, the Allmans are near dead to me nowadays, which depresses me. No Betts = No ABB (and I've seen Betts-less ABB with Trucks and Haynes; I like Jimmy Herring, but what he brought wasn't authentic). The core 4 should have remained intact or they should call it quits or tour under Gregg's banner with Warren and DerekTrucks. I know why Dickey was booted out, but playing without Betts ain't really true ABB. But BEWARE of Dickey's post-ABB solo work, especially live recordings. Suck comes to mind.
Quote from: Jaimoe on Jun 03, 2011, 01:03 PM
You can make that same argument about any band's live album(s) released at an early or mid career time frame. However, Live Dead is perhaps still the best Grateful Dead live LP, even without tunes from American Beauty and Working Man's Dead. Live at Leeds came out a year before Who's Next, but nobody thinks the album would have been better with "Won't Get Fooled Again" on it. The feel of Leeds would have been greatly altered and the Tommy stuff would have suffered. Heck, "Young Man Blues" may not have made the cut, and that would be a rock n roll tragedy.
Its really all opinion, of course. There is at least
one person, me ;) who thinks Live At Leeds and the Who's Isle of Wight DVD would've been better with more tunes from Who's Next and less from Tommy because I'm not a fan of Tommy and I think the Who peaked in terms of songwriting with Who's Next. And I don't think Live Dead is the best Grateful Dead live record because I think the Dead were playing better material in 1972 than they were in 1969. Yeah, all live albums from later in a band's career have more songs to possibly make the cut, but its a matter of whether someone thinks the band got better with time or if they peaked early. Its all just a matter of where one thinks the peak came. Its not an argument I'm trying to win, its just an opinion. I understand why people have different opinions than I do about what is the best period of a given band or what their best live albums were and I'm not trying to convince you or anyone else to share my opinion. I'm also not trying to present myself as an expert whose opinion is fact. I just think its interesting to converse about these things.
BTW, I completely agree with you about the Allmans without Dickey. Its nowhere near as good as it was with him.
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Quote from: Jaimoe on Jun 03, 2011, 01:03 PM
You can make that same argument about any band's live album(s) released at an early or mid career time frame. However, Live Dead is perhaps still the best Grateful Dead live LP, even without tunes from American Beauty and Working Man's Dead. Live at Leeds came out a year before Who's Next, but nobody thinks the album would have been better with "Won't Get Fooled Again" on it. The feel of Leeds would have been greatly altered and the Tommy stuff would have suffered. Heck, "Young Man Blues" may not have made the cut, and that would be a rock n roll tragedy.
Its really all opinion, of course. There is at least one person, me ;) who thinks Live At Leeds and the Who's Isle of Wight DVD would've been better with more tunes from Who's Next and less from Tommy because I'm not a fan of Tommy and I think the Who peaked in terms of songwriting with Who's Next. And I don't think Live Dead is the best Grateful Dead live record because I think the Dead were playing better material in 1972 than they were in 1969. Yeah, all live albums from later in a band's career have more songs to possibly make the cut, but its a matter of if whether someone thinks the band got better with time or if they peaked early. Its all just a matter of where one thinks the peak came. Its not an argument I'm trying to win, its just an opinion. I understand why people have different opinions than I do about what is the best period of a given band or what their best live albums were and I'm not trying to convince you or anyone else to share my opinion. I'm also not trying to present myself as an expert whose opinion is fact. I just think its interesting to converse about these things.
BTW, I completely agree with you about the Allmans without Dickey. Its nowhere near as good as it was with him.
It's the non Tommy stuff that really fires me up on both Wight and Leeds, but the Tommy material is really explosive done live, especially "Sparks", "I'm Free" and "Amazing Journey". Dead weren't playing better during the Europe '72 era than back in '69, plus there was less Pigpen, which was a shame. I agree, Pete did peak in terms of songwriting around Who's Next, but their live prowess came a year or two (or three) earlier. It all comes down to Moon and his health, and he was just starting his slide right after Who's Next (more like Quadrophenia). Still, a sliding Moon is better than most rock drummers in their prime.
Spiritualized - Royal Albert Hall October 10 1997
My favorite bootleg is White Stripes 6/27/03 Oklahoma City, OK and my favorite official release is Nirvana Unplugged.
This captures everything prime The Who were about. Explosive is an understatement:
The Who - Young Man Blues (Live) HQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJCXpFy0E5s#)
ACDC - If You Want Blood You've Got It :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Official release-Little Feat-Waiting For Columbus
Bootleg- Grateful Dead Spring '90-specifically the pirate radio broadcasts that Healy did. (Hartford and Albany) Some of the most amazing live recordings I've ever heard. Dude was a monster on the board.
Okonokos,
And if not that (It's always that) It would be Freebird the movie
Wow, too many to choose from. But if I had to say what is on repeat for me right now...
- Joe Strummer & The Mescaleros - 11/15/2002 Acton Town Hall (Mick Jones came out for 2 songs, unbelievable show and quality)
- Pete Townshend - "Back To Bethel, Woodstock 1998" (if you can find it, pretty incredible)
- Bruce Springsteen & the E. Street Band - "Hammersmith Odeon '75"
- Motorhead - "Everything Louder Than Everything Else"
- Clutch - "Full Fathom Five, Audio Field Recordings"
- Led Zeppelin - "How The West Was Won"
- AC/DC - "Let There Be Rock: The Movie (Live in Paris)"
I mean I could go on, but I have been listening to these above most often lately.
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Quote from: Jaimoe on Jun 03, 2011, 01:03 PM
You can make that same argument about any band's live album(s) released at an early or mid career time frame. However, Live Dead is perhaps still the best Grateful Dead live LP, even without tunes from American Beauty and Working Man's Dead. Live at Leeds came out a year before Who's Next, but nobody thinks the album would have been better with "Won't Get Fooled Again" on it. The feel of Leeds would have been greatly altered and the Tommy stuff would have suffered. Heck, "Young Man Blues" may not have made the cut, and that would be a rock n roll tragedy.
Its really all opinion, of course. There is at least one person, me ;) who thinks Live At Leeds and the Who's Isle of Wight DVD would've been better with more tunes from Who's Next and less from Tommy because I'm not a fan of Tommy and I think the Who peaked in terms of songwriting with Who's Next. And I don't think Live Dead is the best Grateful Dead live record because I think the Dead were playing better material in 1972 than they were in 1969. Yeah, all live albums from later in a band's career have more songs to possibly make the cut, but its a matter of whether someone thinks the band got better with time or if they peaked early. Its all just a matter of where one thinks the peak came. Its not an argument I'm trying to win, its just an opinion. I understand why people have different opinions than I do about what is the best period of a given band or what their best live albums were and I'm not trying to convince you or anyone else to share my opinion. I'm also not trying to present myself as an expert whose opinion is fact. I just think its interesting to converse about these things.
BTW, I completely agree with you about the Allmans without Dickey. Its nowhere near as good as it was with him.
Now you have entered MY TERRITORY. MMJ is the only band that ever knocked 1970 Who off their pedestal. Live at Leeds documented the apex of their sound. Made in early 70, in just over a year they would record a Who's Next concert, it is the second disc of the deluxe Who's next CD, that sounded like it was 10 years into the future. That does not inherently make it better or worse, just vastly different.
Mt own very personal opinion is that LAL and Okonosis stand alone as the greatest documented live ROCK and ROLL performances. Isle of Wight sounds too sloppy, and the movie edit is ridiculous. As a past poster on the Who boards, and those guys are way more homers to the Who than this board is to MMJ, Quadrophenia is the favorite album of over half the posters there. It also led to my Who epiphany on a rainy day in 1978 smokin weed and playing some board game I forgot.
Quote from: rincon on Jun 08, 2011, 10:31 PM
It also led to my Who epiphany on a rainy day in 1978 smokin weed and playing some board game I forgot.
you were playing Pente
(http://webmaths.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/pente7.jpg)
(or was that me smoking weed, listening to Quadrophenia, playing Pente in 1978? ;))
shit, okonokos and the NYE 2006 soundboard for MMJ
theres a reallllyy awesome PJ bootleg from the early years (with the shoe incident)
nirvana unplugged is amazing, coming from someone who isnt a big nirvana fan
this thread makes me wanna get that paul simon recording.
Deep Purple-Lazy-Made in Japan
Quote from: rincon on Jun 08, 2011, 10:31 PM
Quote from: Shug on Jun 03, 2011, 01:20 PM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Jun 03, 2011, 01:03 PM
You can make that same argument about any band's live album(s) released at an early or mid career time frame. However, Live Dead is perhaps still the best Grateful Dead live LP, even without tunes from American Beauty and Working Man's Dead. Live at Leeds came out a year before Who's Next, but nobody thinks the album would have been better with "Won't Get Fooled Again" on it. The feel of Leeds would have been greatly altered and the Tommy stuff would have suffered. Heck, "Young Man Blues" may not have made the cut, and that would be a rock n roll tragedy.
Its really all opinion, of course. There is at least one person, me ;) who thinks Live At Leeds and the Who's Isle of Wight DVD would've been better with more tunes from Who's Next and less from Tommy because I'm not a fan of Tommy and I think the Who peaked in terms of songwriting with Who's Next. And I don't think Live Dead is the best Grateful Dead live record because I think the Dead were playing better material in 1972 than they were in 1969. Yeah, all live albums from later in a band's career have more songs to possibly make the cut, but its a matter of whether someone thinks the band got better with time or if they peaked early. Its all just a matter of where one thinks the peak came. Its not an argument I'm trying to win, its just an opinion. I understand why people have different opinions than I do about what is the best period of a given band or what their best live albums were and I'm not trying to convince you or anyone else to share my opinion. I'm also not trying to present myself as an expert whose opinion is fact. I just think its interesting to converse about these things.
BTW, I completely agree with you about the Allmans without Dickey. Its nowhere near as good as it was with him.
Now you have entered MY TERRITORY. MMJ is the only band that ever knocked 1970 Who off their pedestal. Live at Leeds documented the apex of their sound. Made in early 70, in just over a year they would record a Who's Next concert, it is the second disc of the deluxe Who's next CD, that sounded like it was 10 years into the future. That does not inherently make it better or worse, just vastly different.
Mt own very personal opinion is that LAL and Okonosis stand alone as the greatest documented live ROCK and ROLL performances. Isle of Wight sounds too sloppy, and the movie edit is ridiculous. As a past poster on the Who boards, and those guys are way more homers to the Who than this board is to MMJ, Quadrophenia is the favorite album of over half the posters there. It also led to my Who epiphany on a rainy day in 1978 smokin weed and playing some board game I forgot.
Okonokos (amazing how many folks on the MMJ board spell it wrong) is a fine modern live document. Jim's voice isn't in top form though since he was sick. Still, a great concert album/movie. Regarding The Who, a lot of the material I've read by rock historians and fans over the decades allude to the band having far better nights than Live at Leeds. However, you'll have to find them on bootlegs. Heck, you can find great fucking clips of prime and better than Leeds stuff on YouTube. I agree with Wight being too sloppy (the festival was a mess to begin with; Hendrix's performance at the same gig was not good at all). But Wight is sonically heavier than Leeds and "Young Man Blues" is their best official one-off performance (I'm also partial to "A Quick One" from the Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus). I do think MMJ will have a hard time ever surpassing Okonokos since the material they've put out since has been inferior.
Quote from: Jaimoe on Jun 09, 2011, 11:47 AM
Quote from: rincon on Jun 08, 2011, 10:31 PM
Quote from: Shug on Jun 03, 2011, 01:20 PM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Jun 03, 2011, 01:03 PM
You can make that same argument about any band's live album(s) released at an early or mid career time frame. However, Live Dead is perhaps still the best Grateful Dead live LP, even without tunes from American Beauty and Working Man's Dead. Live at Leeds came out a year before Who's Next, but nobody thinks the album would have been better with "Won't Get Fooled Again" on it. The feel of Leeds would have been greatly altered and the Tommy stuff would have suffered. Heck, "Young Man Blues" may not have made the cut, and that would be a rock n roll tragedy.
Its really all opinion, of course. There is at least one person, me ;) who thinks Live At Leeds and the Who's Isle of Wight DVD would've been better with more tunes from Who's Next and less from Tommy because I'm not a fan of Tommy and I think the Who peaked in terms of songwriting with Who's Next. And I don't think Live Dead is the best Grateful Dead live record because I think the Dead were playing better material in 1972 than they were in 1969. Yeah, all live albums from later in a band's career have more songs to possibly make the cut, but its a matter of whether someone thinks the band got better with time or if they peaked early. Its all just a matter of where one thinks the peak came. Its not an argument I'm trying to win, its just an opinion. I understand why people have different opinions than I do about what is the best period of a given band or what their best live albums were and I'm not trying to convince you or anyone else to share my opinion. I'm also not trying to present myself as an expert whose opinion is fact. I just think its interesting to converse about these things.
BTW, I completely agree with you about the Allmans without Dickey. Its nowhere near as good as it was with him.
Now you have entered MY TERRITORY. MMJ is the only band that ever knocked 1970 Who off their pedestal. Live at Leeds documented the apex of their sound. Made in early 70, in just over a year they would record a Who's Next concert, it is the second disc of the deluxe Who's next CD, that sounded like it was 10 years into the future. That does not inherently make it better or worse, just vastly different.
Mt own very personal opinion is that LAL and Okonosis stand alone as the greatest documented live ROCK and ROLL performances. Isle of Wight sounds too sloppy, and the movie edit is ridiculous. As a past poster on the Who boards, and those guys are way more homers to the Who than this board is to MMJ, Quadrophenia is the favorite album of over half the posters there. It also led to my Who epiphany on a rainy day in 1978 smokin weed and playing some board game I forgot.
Okonokos (amazing how many folks on the MMJ board spell it wrong) is a fine modern live document. Jim's voice isn't in top form though since he was sick. Still, a great concert album/movie. Regarding The Who, a lot of the material I've read by rock historians and fans over the decades allude to the band having far better nights than Live at Leeds. However, you'll have to find them on bootlegs. Heck, you can find great fucking clips of prime and better than Leeds stuff on YouTube. I agree with Wight being too sloppy (the festival was a mess to begin with; Hendrix's performance at the same gig was not good at all). But Wight is sonically heavier than Leeds and "Young Man Blues" is their best official one-off performance (I'm also partial to "A Quick One" from the Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus). I do think MMJ will have a hard time ever surpassing Okonokos since the material they've put out since has been inferior.
A Quick One at Rolling Stones RRC is the only version I listen to. Tangelwood on Wolfgangs Vault is almost a video of LAL. Amazing Journey/Sparks is the best piece of video R&R I have ever seen.
The Who - Amazing Journey / Sparks - Tanglewood 1970 (HIFI STEREO AUDIO) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NYQxDwCnmA#)
The real fun starts after 5 minutes. At about 6:55 is a pretty good example of an orgasm as interpreted via a 3 peice rock and roll band.(I know, but Roger don't count in this song). Can you imagine if Jason Swchartzman ever played Keith Moon in a movie? Both are drummers, and look like twins.
Quote from: rincon on Jun 09, 2011, 05:39 PM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Jun 09, 2011, 11:47 AM
Quote from: rincon on Jun 08, 2011, 10:31 PM
Quote from: Shug on Jun 03, 2011, 01:20 PM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Jun 03, 2011, 01:03 PM
You can make that same argument about any band's live album(s) released at an early or mid career time frame. However, Live Dead is perhaps still the best Grateful Dead live LP, even without tunes from American Beauty and Working Man's Dead. Live at Leeds came out a year before Who's Next, but nobody thinks the album would have been better with "Won't Get Fooled Again" on it. The feel of Leeds would have been greatly altered and the Tommy stuff would have suffered. Heck, "Young Man Blues" may not have made the cut, and that would be a rock n roll tragedy.
Its really all opinion, of course. There is at least one person, me ;) who thinks Live At Leeds and the Who's Isle of Wight DVD would've been better with more tunes from Who's Next and less from Tommy because I'm not a fan of Tommy and I think the Who peaked in terms of songwriting with Who's Next. And I don't think Live Dead is the best Grateful Dead live record because I think the Dead were playing better material in 1972 than they were in 1969. Yeah, all live albums from later in a band's career have more songs to possibly make the cut, but its a matter of whether someone thinks the band got better with time or if they peaked early. Its all just a matter of where one thinks the peak came. Its not an argument I'm trying to win, its just an opinion. I understand why people have different opinions than I do about what is the best period of a given band or what their best live albums were and I'm not trying to convince you or anyone else to share my opinion. I'm also not trying to present myself as an expert whose opinion is fact. I just think its interesting to converse about these things.
BTW, I completely agree with you about the Allmans without Dickey. Its nowhere near as good as it was with him.
Now you have entered MY TERRITORY. MMJ is the only band that ever knocked 1970 Who off their pedestal. Live at Leeds documented the apex of their sound. Made in early 70, in just over a year they would record a Who's Next concert, it is the second disc of the deluxe Who's next CD, that sounded like it was 10 years into the future. That does not inherently make it better or worse, just vastly different.
Mt own very personal opinion is that LAL and Okonosis stand alone as the greatest documented live ROCK and ROLL performances. Isle of Wight sounds too sloppy, and the movie edit is ridiculous. As a past poster on the Who boards, and those guys are way more homers to the Who than this board is to MMJ, Quadrophenia is the favorite album of over half the posters there. It also led to my Who epiphany on a rainy day in 1978 smokin weed and playing some board game I forgot.
Okonokos (amazing how many folks on the MMJ board spell it wrong) is a fine modern live document. Jim's voice isn't in top form though since he was sick. Still, a great concert album/movie. Regarding The Who, a lot of the material I've read by rock historians and fans over the decades allude to the band having far better nights than Live at Leeds. However, you'll have to find them on bootlegs. Heck, you can find great fucking clips of prime and better than Leeds stuff on YouTube. I agree with Wight being too sloppy (the festival was a mess to begin with; Hendrix's performance at the same gig was not good at all). But Wight is sonically heavier than Leeds and "Young Man Blues" is their best official one-off performance (I'm also partial to "A Quick One" from the Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus). I do think MMJ will have a hard time ever surpassing Okonokos since the material they've put out since has been inferior.
A Quick One at Rolling Stones RRC is the only version I listen to. Tangelwood on Wolfgangs Vault is almost a video of LAL. Amazing Journey/Sparks is the best piece of video R&R I have ever seen.
The Who - Amazing Journey / Sparks - Tanglewood 1970 (HIFI STEREO AUDIO) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NYQxDwCnmA#)
The real fun starts after 5 minutes. At about 6:55 is a pretty good example of an orgasm as interpreted via a 3 peice rock and roll band.(I know, but Roger don't count in this song). Can you imagine if Jason Swchartzman ever played Keith Moon in a movie? Both are drummers, and look like twins.
Yeah, I love that "Sparks" version. Roger has been trying to get a Moon biopic off the ground for years (which is somewhat ironic since Rog and Moonie weren't close). Mike Myers is involved, but he's far too old now to play a young Moon (who was always a very young looking kid until the booze and drugs starting ruining his looks by the early '70s). Myers would be a good as an older Moon though. Schwartzman is a perfect choice as a late '60s Moon. Good actor, solid drummer and a funny dude. Perfect!
I am very familiar with the Roger/Moon project. Mike Meyers? Never got that. I have read that it would not be a biopic, so much, but an account of what led up to his OD. Have you read the biography Moon? Pete refused to help, but pretty much everyone else contributed. I finished it not particularly liking my favorite musician. It appeared Keith really did not like Roger. Very selfish and irresponsible person. It is easy to make such judgments for me simply by the way he neglected his wife and daughter in order to have fun. But I have never seen a more entertaining musician in my life.
Quote from: rincon on Jun 10, 2011, 08:36 AM
I am very familiar with the Roger/Moon project. Mike Meyers? Never got that. I have read that it would not be a biopic, so much, but an account of what led up to his OD. Have you read the biography Moon? Pete refused to help, but pretty much everyone else contributed. I finished it not particularly liking my favorite musician. It appeared Keith really did not like Roger. Very selfish and irresponsible person. It is easy to make such judgments for me simply by the way he neglected his wife and daughter in order to have fun. But I have never seen a more entertaining musician in my life.
You mean Tony Fletcher's Moon: The Life and Death of a Rock Legend? It's a must for any fans of rock. Brilliant biography, and you'll learn something about history too.
http://www.harpercollins.ca/books/Moon-Tony-Fletcher/?isbn=9780380788279 (http://www.harpercollins.ca/books/Moon-Tony-Fletcher/?isbn=9780380788279)
Live at Leeds is my favorite although the Zep dvd set from The Royal Albert Hall is unbelievable as well. Just before or after 2nd record I believe.
I read somewhere that at Leeds there were mics under the stage and in a bathroom attached to the main room that were used in the final mix. Maybe it was on the liner notes of the re-released disc a few years back.
The who are not my fav band but that show is so great and has so much energy. Sometimes magic just happens on stage, musicians can't know when it will happen but sometimes, "BAM!" there it is.
Conversely, The Isle of Wight show from later the same year, 1970, is brutally bad.
Quote from: bumble on Jun 10, 2011, 12:26 PM
Conversely, The Isle of Wight show from later the same year, 1970, is brutally bad.
It's not much different. Same set list, similar arrangements. The biggest differences is The Who were messier, not mixed well (Moon's drums got buried), but they were noticably heavier than Leeds. I prefer Wight's "Young Man Blues" over Leeds and "Shakin' All Over" is just plain nasty. Watch it again and just try to tear your eyes away from Moon, bad mix or not. He's so fucking entertaining, especially in HD.
I have seen it and its fun to watch but Moon is a friggin mess. He is movin around on his stool like he is in the matrix. A lot of his fills suck and his time is even off at points. It always makes me laugh watching him play w/o a hh though. Pretty silly.
Quote from: bumble on Jun 10, 2011, 12:43 PM
I have seen it and its fun to watch but Moon is a friggin mess. He is movin around on his stool like he is in the matrix. A lot of his fills suck and his time is even off at points. It always makes me laugh watching him play w/o a hh though. Pretty silly.
That is Moon. He couldn't really do a drum roll either. Moon was silly, but he certainly had a unique over-the-top style, which reflected his personality, and revolutionized the way cymbals were used in rock. Timing was always an issue with The Who because their showmanship caused mistakes. They didn't care. Moon could never sit still, but in many ways is the embodiment of rock & roll. I think his rolls during the late '60s are pre-punk things of beauty. Watch that video posted above of "Amazing Journey" and "Sparks". Actually, scroll through to "Sparks". It's what rock is all about and Moon is on fire. No wonder Stewart Copeland, Bonzo, Zack Starkey, Carl Palmer, Cozy Powell, Roger Taylor etc... worshipped him.
He was def rock-n-roll and one of my fav drummers. But I don't think his sloppiness is really all that excusable. At times it takes away from the performance and when you know he is capable of so much more, its a bit disappointing. I am not suggesting Bonham is better because its all about musical preference, however, I have never heard Bonzo so sloppy that it subtracts from the band's overall performance. And he was as rock-n-roll as it gets too.
It most likely boils down to the degree of chemical abuse on a given night.
Anyway - Thanks for Halladay and I hope Drabek turns out for ya.
Quote from: bumble on Jun 10, 2011, 02:03 PM
He was def rock-n-roll and one of my fav drummers. But I don't think his sloppiness is really all that excusable. At times it takes away from the performance and when you know he is capable of so much more, its a bit disappointing. I am not suggesting Bonham is better because its all about musical preference, however, I have never heard Bonzo so sloppy that it subtracts from the band's overall performance. And he was as rock-n-roll as it gets too.
It most likely boils down to the degree of chemical abuse on a given night.
Anyway - Thanks for Halladay and I hope Drabek turns out for ya.
Halladay is still revered by baseball and Jays fans in Canada. We knew what you were getting and I predicted he'd win the Cy Young in his first season in the NL. I think he'll win again this season. What, he has 5 CGs already and chews up innings and strike-outs, plus is a class act and unparalleled leader. Drabeck is having some growing pains, but he has the tools to be a dandy starter. Yankees, Red Sox suck ass.
Moon's drunkeness affected his performance for sure. I think one of his finest live moments came in The Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus. When Moon had something to prove, he was fierce. I love his steady funk-influenced drumming on "Baby Don't You Do It" from the reboot of Who's Next, which is impressive since he was essentially a suped-up surf drummer. I love Bonzo too. Zeppelin put on some stunning shows as well as some snoozers (see The Song Remains the Same). Too bad Page has lost some of his chops. He didn't practice during a long stretch of the '80s. As someone who came out of hockey retirement after a 16-year layoff, getting back your chops is a struggle. I play guitar too and am rusty, but I can't understand not playing for a decade. Love Page too though.
Spiritualized: Live from Royal Albert Hall
Quote from: Jaimoe on Jun 10, 2011, 11:52 AM
Quote from: rincon on Jun 10, 2011, 08:36 AM
I am very familiar with the Roger/Moon project. Mike Meyers? Never got that. I have read that it would not be a biopic, so much, but an account of what led up to his OD. Have you read the biography Moon? Pete refused to help, but pretty much everyone else contributed. I finished it not particularly liking my favorite musician. It appeared Keith really did not like Roger. Very selfish and irresponsible person. It is easy to make such judgments for me simply by the way he neglected his wife and daughter in order to have fun. But I have never seen a more entertaining musician in my life.
You mean Tony Fletcher's Moon: The Life and Death of a Rock Legend? It's a must for any fans of rock. Brilliant biography, and you'll learn something about history too.
http://www.harpercollins.ca/books/Moon-Tony-Fletcher/?isbn=9780380788279 (http://www.harpercollins.ca/books/Moon-Tony-Fletcher/?isbn=9780380788279)
That's the one.
tis a good one. could never pick a favorite:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_the_Fillmore_East_%28Neil_Young_album%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_the_Fillmore_East_%28Neil_Young_album%29)
Genesis - Seconds Out
All the rest of my faves are 2a,2b, 2c, etc.... The order changes, but never the albums. #1 never changes though, even after all these years. :)
Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Jun 12, 2011, 12:49 PM
tis a good one. could never pick a favorite:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_the_Fillmore_East_%28Neil_Young_album%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_the_Fillmore_East_%28Neil_Young_album%29)
Yes it is. Rust Never Sleeps and Live Rust are excellent as well.
Quote from: mjk73 on Jun 12, 2011, 01:05 PM
Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Jun 12, 2011, 12:49 PM
tis a good one. could never pick a favorite:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_the_Fillmore_East_%28Neil_Young_album%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_the_Fillmore_East_%28Neil_Young_album%29)
Yes it is. Rust Never Sleeps and Live Rust are excellent as well.
I like Weld. Especially the video, which has never been released on DVD. I won 4 tickets from a Santa Barbara radio station to the last show of that tour in 91. 2 songs from that show are on the album. No soft stuff to be found there.
Massey Hall is a helluva NY show as well.
Quote from: bumble on Jun 12, 2011, 07:51 PM
Massey Hall is a helluva NY show as well.
onee thing I love about the Massey Hall show is the audience. They clap very briefly between songs or if they recoginze a song and then they are quiet. It's pretty amazing compared to live recordings these days.
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jun 12, 2011, 09:34 PM
Quote from: bumble on Jun 12, 2011, 07:51 PM
Massey Hall is a helluva NY show as well.
onee thing I love about the Massey Hall show is the audience. They clap very briefly between songs or if they recoginze a song and then they are quiet. It's pretty amazing compared to live recordings these days.
What does "helluva NY show" mean? NYC? New Year's Eve? I rode my bike by Massey Hall on my way to work today. Massey Hall is Canada's most revered concert venue and Neil's performance was from January 13, 1971. BTW, one of the most famous and best jazz concerts/albums ever was Jazz at Massey Hall by "The Quintet" - Dizzy Gillespy, Charlie Parker, Bud Powell, Charles Mingus and Max Roach:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz_at_Massey_Hall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz_at_Massey_Hall)
Hey Tracy, historically speaking, the Massey Hall crowd is often quiet between songs, often out of respect. However, I've been to shows where the audience is up dancing in the aisles: Pete Townshend, Arcade Fire, Pixies, Oysterhead (where Les Claypool announced to the audience that "Rush recorded All The World's A Stage here"!). I missed The Stooges from 3 years ago, but they raised the fucking roof. MMJ needs to play there.
Neil Young performed at Massey Hall last month as a loose 40th anniversary tribute to his 1971 show. Here's a review from the Toronto Star from a non-fan critic: http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/article/989254--concert-review-neil-young-brings-le-noise-to-massey (http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/article/989254--concert-review-neil-young-brings-le-noise-to-massey)
Relax - NY was short for Neil Young, not New York.
Quote from: bumble on Jun 13, 2011, 09:34 AM
Relax - NY was short for Neil Young, not New York.
Blame Mavs hangover... and Jays getting clobbered by the Red Sox.
It's all good. Pretty cool that you live that close that you can ride your bike past there. My bro in law went up there last year for a hockey tournament and had a blast. Played games and then drank with their opponents while watching the game they had just played on the tv monitors.
Quote from: bumble on Jun 13, 2011, 09:56 AM
It's all good. Pretty cool that you live that close that you can ride your bike past there. My bro in law went up there last year for a hockey tournament and had a blast. Played games and then drank with their opponents while watching the game they had just played on the tv monitors.
I'm glad nobody has filmed my hockey team's games. My comeback (after a 16-year layoff) has been a struggle to say the least. If you know your classic-era actors, Massey Hall was built by theatre/film/TV actor Raymond Massey's grandfather.
Quote from: bumble on Jun 12, 2011, 07:51 PM
Massey Hall is a helluva NY show as well.
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jun 12, 2011, 09:34 PM
Quote from: bumble on Jun 12, 2011, 07:51 PM
Massey Hall is a helluva NY show as well.
onee thing I love about the Massey Hall show is the audience. They clap very briefly between songs or if they recoginze a song and then they are quiet. It's pretty amazing compared to live recordings these days.
I also love how the audience is hearing some of those songs for the first time and they end up being timeless classics. They have no idea that they are hearing history.
This thread over on pt is a GOLDMINE. Enjoy. :beer:
http://phantasytour.com/bands/1/topics/2962729/posts (http://phantasytour.com/bands/1/topics/2962729/posts)
Quote from: bbill on Jan 11, 2012, 09:39 PM
This thread over on pt is a GOLDMINE. Enjoy. :beer:
http://phantasytour.com/bands/1/topics/2962729/posts (http://phantasytour.com/bands/1/topics/2962729/posts)
wowee - well I just got lost in that thread for over an hour! ;D Thanks for pointing it out :beer:
Quote from: jaye on Jan 12, 2012, 01:43 AM
Quote from: bbill on Jan 11, 2012, 09:39 PM
This thread over on pt is a GOLDMINE. Enjoy. :beer:
http://phantasytour.com/bands/1/topics/2962729/posts (http://phantasytour.com/bands/1/topics/2962729/posts)
wowee - well I just got lost in that thread for over an hour! ;D Thanks for pointing it out :beer:
Same here! Thanks for the link. Gonna need a bigger hard drive.
Quote from: johnnYYac on Jan 12, 2012, 06:55 AM
Quote from: jaye on Jan 12, 2012, 01:43 AM
Quote from: bbill on Jan 11, 2012, 09:39 PM
This thread over on pt is a GOLDMINE. Enjoy. :beer:
http://phantasytour.com/bands/1/topics/2962729/posts (http://phantasytour.com/bands/1/topics/2962729/posts)
wowee - well I just got lost in that thread for over an hour! ;D Thanks for pointing it out :beer:
Same here! Thanks for the link. Gonna need a bigger hard drive.
Oh my! I think I'm going to have to get a substitute teacher and take the rest of the day off!
On page 7 of the thread someone linked to this site: [url=http://tela.sugarmegs.org/]http://tela.sugarmegs.org/ (http://tela.sugarmegs.org/)[/url]
Unbelievable wealth of shows in addition to what is in the original pt thread.
great thread
for official releases- I have listened to Dire Straits Alchemy more than any other live recording, I would bet.
Quote from: Fully on Jan 12, 2012, 09:31 AM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Jan 12, 2012, 06:55 AM
Quote from: jaye on Jan 12, 2012, 01:43 AM
Quote from: bbill on Jan 11, 2012, 09:39 PM
This thread over on pt is a GOLDMINE. Enjoy. :beer:
http://phantasytour.com/bands/1/topics/2962729/posts (http://phantasytour.com/bands/1/topics/2962729/posts)
wowee - well I just got lost in that thread for over an hour! ;D Thanks for pointing it out :beer:
Same here! Thanks for the link. Gonna need a bigger hard drive.
Oh my! I think I'm going to have to get a substitute teacher and take the rest of the day off!
On page 7 of the thread someone linked to this site: http://tela.sugarmegs.org/ (http://tela.sugarmegs.org/)
Unbelievable wealth of shows in addition to what is in the original pt thread.
Thanks for this one, Fully. It contains an intact recording from my first MMJ show, which mysteriously vanished from LMA. If anyone wants the Boston '08 show...
http://www.archive.org/serve/MyMorningJacket2008-09-06BostonMA/MyMorningJacket2008-09-06BostonMA.wma (http://www.archive.org/serve/MyMorningJacket2008-09-06BostonMA/MyMorningJacket2008-09-06BostonMA.wma)
It's as if I've glimpsed a secret universe that I had never seen before :D . So going to purchase a new storage drive and probably get fined by my isp for all the downloading I'm about to do. Husband and children may sue me for neglect and abandonment. (My music and collector obsession is about to be in need of an intervention.) At least digital files won't put me on an episode of Horders. ::)
I hope.
Hey...get on the smegs mailing list too. Been on for about 7 years now. Best bunch of folks you can imagine. Best links to all things musical, beer, etc. Always someone willing to help if you have a problem also! ;)
there's no way i could have a favorite end all live recording, if i had a gun to my head i'd go through my hard drive and pick a Jimi Hendrix Experience/early Floyd/late 70's early 80's GD.
a feel good one you might not have/forgot about:
The Subdudes - Live at Last
Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Jun 12, 2011, 12:49 PM
tis a good one. could never pick a favorite:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_the_Fillmore_East_%28Neil_Young_album%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_the_Fillmore_East_%28Neil_Young_album%29)
That's the only version of "Everybody Knows This is Nowhere" I can even listen to anymore. Scorching.
Quote from: johnnYYac on Jan 12, 2012, 06:55 AM
Quote from: jaye on Jan 12, 2012, 01:43 AM
Quote from: bbill on Jan 11, 2012, 09:39 PM
This thread over on pt is a GOLDMINE. Enjoy. :beer:
http://phantasytour.com/bands/1/topics/2962729/posts (http://phantasytour.com/bands/1/topics/2962729/posts)
wowee - well I just got lost in that thread for over an hour! ;D Thanks for pointing it out :beer:
Same here! Thanks for the link. Gonna need a bigger hard drive.
You're welcome. Links to Talking Heads, Leonard Cohen, Yo La Tengo, Zep, Ween, Bonnie Rait...and that's just the first page! And sugarmegs is an AMAZING resource.
I've spent all afternoon going through this thread. I can't even begin to download everything. I can't tell you how much I appreciate that you've sent us here, bbill. Really great.
Quote from: Fully on Jan 16, 2012, 07:03 PM
I've spent all afternoon going through this thread. I can't even begin to download everything. I can't tell you how much I appreciate that you've sent us here, bbill. Really great.
Pace yourself! ;D That thread will be archived soon, but the link from here should still be good. I can't take credit for any of the music that was posted, but I'm glad you're enjoying it. I am too!
:beer: :)
So many good ones, but I'll only list 5.
All time favorite:
Pantera Official Live: 101 Proof
followed by:
MMJ Okonokos
Neil Young Rust Never Sleeps
Turbonego Darkness Forever!
Pearl Jam Live on Two legs
Too many to count.
Led Zeppelin - How The West Was Won
MMJ - Okonokos
The Clash - From Here To Eternity
Ramones - It's Alive
David Bowie - Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars (Soundtrack)
AC/DC - Let There Be Rock: The Movie
KISS - ALIVE
Motorhead - Everything Louder Than Everything Else
Wilco - Kicking Television
Gov't Mule - Live: With A Little Help From My Friends
Clutch - Full Fathom Five: Field Recordings
Social Distortion - Live At The Roxy
Greg Dulli - Live At The Triple Door
Jane's Addiction - XXX
Oasis - Familiar To Millions
Allman Brothers Band - Fillmore East
The Band - The Last Waltz
Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Weld
I could go on...
I might get beat up for this, but I've always had a place for Frampton Comes Alive!. He's touring on its 35th anniversary but I can't make any of the local dates. Its pop, light, but solid and evocative of my childhood in the 70's.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c7/Frampton_Comes_Alive.jpg)
I'm going to see the Frampton tour in March. I know what you mean, johnny. Reminds me of when I was first starting to frequent record stores in 1976 at age 9. It saddens me that record stores will soon, if they aren't already, be an extinct species. They seemed like magical places to me back then, when the rock charts were filled with great albums. Most of 'em were record stores/smoke shops with incense, adult comics (remember The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers http://www.freaknet.org.uk/pages01/p01/wm01.html (http://www.freaknet.org.uk/pages01/p01/wm01.html)? great stuff!), and smoking paraphernalia in addition to the vinyl and posters and stickers.
(http://www.freaknet.org.uk/graphics01/g04/franklin/frank01.gif)
Quote from: Shug on Jan 19, 2012, 10:48 AM
I'm going to see the Frampton tour in March. I know what you mean, johnny. Reminds me of when I was first starting to frequent record stores in 1976 at age 9. It saddens me that record stores will soon, if they aren't already, be an extinct species. They seemed like magical places to me back then, when the rock charts were filled with great albums. Most of 'em were record stores/smoke shops with incense, adult comics (remember The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers http://www.freaknet.org.uk/pages01/p01/wm01.html (http://www.freaknet.org.uk/pages01/p01/wm01.html)? great stuff!), and smoking paraphernalia in addition to the vinyl and posters and stickers.
(http://www.freaknet.org.uk/graphics01/g04/franklin/frank01.gif)
So, I wasn't the only one 9 years old in '76? I think bluesky is another one.
I know exactly what you mean. Today, I have a place nearby that's more about the head-shop and less about the music (I love running into students and their parents when I'm in there, being a teacher). My most recent discovery, a used record shop in Fitchburg, MA, is gone (just last week :'().
A good forum friend had a spare copy of Frampton Comes Alive! for me, which was so sweet after having put my vinyl aside for 25 years and my original copy didn't survive the quarter century.
Y'know, I hadn't checked thoroughly and can't make his stop in Portland, ME... but he has a Friday night show in Lynn, MA and Saturday night in Worcester, MA, so I may check this out, after all.
Quote from: bbill on Jun 02, 2011, 05:39 PM
It can be MMJ too, but what's the one show recording that you turn to most, your favorite? It can be an official release or a bootleg.
For me, without a doubt, it's the Rolling Stones 10/17/73 show in Brussels. It's pretty widely circulated and easy to find on the internet for download. You can also stream it here:
http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/the-rolling-stones/concerts/forest-national-october-17-1973.html (http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/the-rolling-stones/concerts/forest-national-october-17-1973.html)
Thanks so much for this bbill - this is a killer! Downloading from here (with a bonus disc) http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2010/11/29/the-rolling-stones-brussels-affair-1973/ (http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2010/11/29/the-rolling-stones-brussels-affair-1973/)
Live & Dangerous anyone? It's one of Jim's favs.
Quote from: dragonboy on Jan 21, 2012, 04:01 AM
Quote from: bbill on Jun 02, 2011, 05:39 PM
It can be MMJ too, but what's the one show recording that you turn to most, your favorite? It can be an official release or a bootleg.
For me, without a doubt, it's the Rolling Stones 10/17/73 show in Brussels. It's pretty widely circulated and easy to find on the internet for download. You can also stream it here:
http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/the-rolling-stones/concerts/forest-national-october-17-1973.html (http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/the-rolling-stones/concerts/forest-national-october-17-1973.html)
Thanks so much for this bbill - this is a killer! Downloading from here (with a bonus disc) http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2010/11/29/the-rolling-stones-brussels-affair-1973/ (http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2010/11/29/the-rolling-stones-brussels-affair-1973/)
Live & Dangerous anyone? It's one of Jim's favs.
Hey, you're welcome! That bonus disc stuff looks pretty good, I'm grabbing it right now. That Brussels show is just ROCK AND ROLL at it's finest, imo.
I've never heard Live & Dangerous, though you aren't the first person to recommend it to me.
I'm not too into reggae, but for years I had an awesome bootleg soundboard tape of Bob Marley at the Roxy in LA in 1976 that is a super clean and super bass-rich recording of what sounds like a pretty good show with everyone feelin' it. It has now been officially released. http://www.amazon.com/Live-Roxy-Hollywood-California-1976/dp/B00009V7T0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327599314&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Live-Roxy-Hollywood-California-1976/dp/B00009V7T0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327599314&sr=8-1)
If you only get one reggae show in your collection, this is probably the one to get.