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Title: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: brn2plybal on Jun 28, 2011, 08:53 AM
Looking at the venues schedule it looks like a show is every 2 weeks.

There is basically a big hole from 8/12 - 8/29. 

Fits perfectly with MMJ's Philly show.

I find it also weird that there was no "official" announcement of the Philly show, so maybe they will do a quick Northeast tour before ACL.  No email, nothing even on the homepage on the show.

I fully expect them to be on the road until ACL.

Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: TSarge on Jun 28, 2011, 09:42 AM
Stop getting my hopes up!
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: subinai on Jun 28, 2011, 10:44 AM
is WW all GA? Where would the Roll Call tickets put us?
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: brn2plybal on Jun 28, 2011, 11:11 AM
Quote from: subinai on Jun 28, 2011, 10:44 AM
is WW all GA? Where would the Roll Call tickets put us?

It is an all GA venue.

They could do it one of two ways:

1.  Have special tickets that let you get in 30-60 minutes before everyone else.
2.  Have a roped off area in the front for the fan club.

I'm sure they want to hook the fanclub up as much as possible, but I can't imagine them scrapping a successful concert (8,000 people) because they want their fan club to have special seats.

Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: TSarge on Jun 28, 2011, 11:15 AM
A lot of GA places will have a sectioned off "pit" or "vip" GA section...

I don't want to jynx it by speculating about logistics for a concert that hasn't been announced yet though!
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: br00ke on Jun 28, 2011, 01:22 PM
i think betting on w'burg waterfront is a solid bet. as for how roll call would work there .. when roll call first came out it said it'd be offered when/where available so i'd think shows that are generally GA anyway would not really offer any benefits except maybe just being able to purchase early (so that you don't get shut out) and maybe bypassing the horrid ticketmaster fee's and such?? i haven't had a chance to use my roll call membership to buy tickets yet so i'm not sure what kind of fee's (if any) are attached to that.
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: kydiddle on Jun 28, 2011, 01:32 PM
Quote from: TSarge on Jun 28, 2011, 09:42 AM
Stop getting my hopes up!

Srrrssssslyyyyyyy

But this show would be amazing. A fantastic excuse to spend the weekend in Brooklyn with two of my favorite Jacket gals.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: br00ke on Jun 28, 2011, 01:41 PM
Quote from: kydiddle on Jun 28, 2011, 01:32 PMA fantastic excuse to spend the weekend in Brooklyn with two of my favorite Jacket gals.  :D :D :D

hells yes  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: subinai on Jun 28, 2011, 01:51 PM
it does make sense to have it here but it doesn't really seem to fit into the handpicked cool historic seated venue or whatever theme they are doing for this tour.
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: brn2plybal on Jun 28, 2011, 01:56 PM
They seem to really dig the outdoor venues.

Not much else would work well for them in the NYC area.
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: TSarge on Jun 28, 2011, 02:02 PM
Quote from: brn2plybal on Jun 28, 2011, 01:56 PM
Not much else would work well for them in the NYC area.

What about a triumphant return to T5? Or have they out grown that place? They could take down MSG again too, that would be fun.
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: subinai on Jun 28, 2011, 02:04 PM
i hope they don't play jones beach
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: brn2plybal on Jun 28, 2011, 02:08 PM
Quote from: subinai on Jun 28, 2011, 02:04 PM
i hope they don't play jones beach

At this point I don't think they would play there.

I believe next summer will be a full ampitheater (with a strong supporter) tour. 

Fall/Winter will be multinight runs at small awesome theaters (Ryman, Beacon, Fox, ect..)

Spring will be Europe

Summer will be sheds

Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: kydiddle on Jun 28, 2011, 02:31 PM
Quote from: brn2plybal on Jun 28, 2011, 02:08 PM
Quote from: subinai on Jun 28, 2011, 02:04 PM
i hope they don't play jones beach

At this point I don't think they would play there.

I believe next summer will be a full ampitheater (with a strong supporter) tour. 

Fall/Winter will be multinight runs at small awesome theaters (Ryman, Beacon, Fox, ect..)

Spring will be Europe

Summer will be sheds

I just cackled.

I wouldn't scoff at a RCMH show....still upset I missed the last one... >:(

And brooke...it's a date....  :-*
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: br00ke on Jun 28, 2011, 02:32 PM
shortlist of places i hope they never play or return to:

1. T5 - just don't get me started. i think it's a shitty venue & there are only a few tolerable places to spend the show
2. Jones Beach - it's hard as hell for NYC'ers to get to. the train/shuttle system they had in place is no more. also, they don't sell beer or alcohol which i think is lame .. even though i personally don't drink @ shows (i hate to leave and go to the bathroom). one time i missed the train to get home and we had to pay $120 in cab fare to get back. screw that!

** honorable mention ** MSG .. i still think that venue is too big for them, which to me (selfishly speaking) is a good thing. bring on the radio city, the beacon and united palace even (gorgeous place though a bit out of the way). i don't like looking around to see a ton of empty seats. i think MMJ is in an awkward phase as far as how big they are .. they are close to getting really freaking huge but not quite there so some venue's seem too small, some seem too big. the allman bros. are freaking huge but you don't see them playing MSG .. it's always the beacon. to me there is just something lost .. energy lost .. when you play a room with alot of (empty) space. let's have the frenetic energy with a full(er) house.
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: WSS2 on Jun 28, 2011, 02:57 PM
Murray from flight of the conchords (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1phrJWjcwQI#)
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: brn2plybal on Jun 28, 2011, 03:12 PM
I think their days at Terminal 5 are done.

I think that was a unique circumstance.  Terminal 5 is notorious for giving bands cheap rent, especially on multi-night runs.

Again, I just don't see them doing a theater in NYC in August.  They love outside shows.  If they do Williamsburg on a Fri/Sat, I bet it has a good chance to sellout.  Why would they do something else? 

-Summerstage has an early curfew and can hold 2-3,000. 
-Keyspan Park may work, but that doesn't seem like a venue they'd play (now).

United Palace is an awesome place.  Saw MOF there.  Only bad thing was getting on the A train after the show.  Made every local stop and I needed to go down to Penn Station.  United Palace is up by 175th I believe for those that are unaware.  LOOOOONG Ride.




Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: e_wind on Jun 28, 2011, 03:50 PM
Quote from: br00ke on Jun 28, 2011, 02:32 PM


** honorable mention ** MSG .. i still think that venue is too big for them, which to me (selfishly speaking) is a good thing. bring on the radio city, the beacon and united palace even (gorgeous place though a bit out of the way). i don't like looking around to see a ton of empty seats. i think MMJ is in an awkward phase as far as how big they are .. they are close to getting really freaking huge but not quite there so some venue's seem too small, some seem too big. the allman bros. are freaking huge but you don't see them playing MSG .. it's always the beacon. to me there is just something lost .. energy lost .. when you play a room with alot of (empty) space. let's have the frenetic energy with a full(er) house.


maybe it was because it was a hometown show... but they blew the roof off the YUM center. I've only been going to see the Jacket for about 16 months, but of my 13 or so shows, YUM is my 4th favorite and there are only 5 that I remember as shinning a little brighter than the other shows Ive been to. again, it might be because the Yum is here at home, and it had been just over 2 years since the last hometown show.
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: e_wind on Jun 28, 2011, 03:55 PM
Quote from: brn2plybal on Jun 28, 2011, 03:12 PM
I think their days at Terminal 5 are done.

I think that was a unique circumstance.  Terminal 5 is notorious for giving bands cheap rent, especially on multi-night runs.

Again, I just don't see them doing a theater in NYC in August.  They love outside shows.  If they do Williamsburg on a Fri/Sat, I bet it has a good chance to sellout.  Why would they do something else? 

-Summerstage has an early curfew and can hold 2-3,000. 
-Keyspan Park may work, but that doesn't seem like a venue they'd play (now).

United Palace is an awesome place.  Saw MOF there.  Only bad thing was getting on the A train after the show.  Made every local stop and I needed to go down to Penn Station.  United Palace is up by 175th I believe for those that are unaware.  LOOOOONG Ride.

I think there have been venues in all the cities they've played this year that they could've sold out, but they're choosing venues based on more than capacity this tour. in an early 2011 interview they said they hand picked their favorite theaters/venues around the country. i.e. the auditorium theater. they sold out the auditorium theater, but played a larger venue in chicago last year (charter one @ northerly island). They played the Louisville Palace when last year they damn near sold out the Yum Center (i think 22,000 capacity for bball games)
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: br00ke on Jun 28, 2011, 03:57 PM
Quote from: e_wind on Jun 28, 2011, 03:50 PM
Quote from: br00ke on Jun 28, 2011, 02:32 PM


** honorable mention ** MSG .. i still think that venue is too big for them, which to me (selfishly speaking) is a good thing. bring on the radio city, the beacon and united palace even (gorgeous place though a bit out of the way). i don't like looking around to see a ton of empty seats. i think MMJ is in an awkward phase as far as how big they are .. they are close to getting really freaking huge but not quite there so some venue's seem too small, some seem too big. the allman bros. are freaking huge but you don't see them playing MSG .. it's always the beacon. to me there is just something lost .. energy lost .. when you play a room with alot of (empty) space. let's have the frenetic energy with a full(er) house.


maybe it was because it was a hometown show... but they blew the roof off the YUM center. I've only been going to see the Jacket for about 16 months, but of my 13 or so shows, YUM is my 4th favorite and there are only 5 that I remember as shinning a little brighter than the other shows Ive been to. again, it might be because the Yum is here at home, and it had been just over 2 years since the last hometown show.

MSG's end-stage capacity is 19,500 and YUM's is 17,500. not a huge difference but 2000 seats can make a difference.

Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: e_wind on Jun 28, 2011, 04:00 PM
Quote from: br00ke on Jun 28, 2011, 03:57 PM
Quote from: e_wind on Jun 28, 2011, 03:50 PM
Quote from: br00ke on Jun 28, 2011, 02:32 PM


** honorable mention ** MSG .. i still think that venue is too big for them, which to me (selfishly speaking) is a good thing. bring on the radio city, the beacon and united palace even (gorgeous place though a bit out of the way). i don't like looking around to see a ton of empty seats. i think MMJ is in an awkward phase as far as how big they are .. they are close to getting really freaking huge but not quite there so some venue's seem too small, some seem too big. the allman bros. are freaking huge but you don't see them playing MSG .. it's always the beacon. to me there is just something lost .. energy lost .. when you play a room with alot of (empty) space. let's have the frenetic energy with a full(er) house.


maybe it was because it was a hometown show... but they blew the roof off the YUM center. I've only been going to see the Jacket for about 16 months, but of my 13 or so shows, YUM is my 4th favorite and there are only 5 that I remember as shinning a little brighter than the other shows Ive been to. again, it might be because the Yum is here at home, and it had been just over 2 years since the last hometown show.

also .. MSG's concert capacity is 2,500 more than YUM's concert capacity

this is true, but 22,000 minus however many seats were behind the stage is still possibly the biggest Jacket show to date excluding festivals. it's definitely between MSG and Yum
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: WSS2 on Jun 28, 2011, 04:37 PM
e wind - exactly why I keep coming back to radio city...
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: WSS2 on Jun 29, 2011, 12:44 PM
no matter the venue.....would be nice to get anything in NY announced soon.... :-\
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: tdb810 on Jun 29, 2011, 01:25 PM
Quote from: WSS2 on Jun 29, 2011, 12:44 PM
no matter the venue.....would be nice to get anything in NY announced soon.... :-\

ditto! come on NY!  The site was down for a few minutes around 11 this morning, and I thought they were adding NY shows :) 
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: TSarge on Jun 29, 2011, 01:46 PM
Quote from: tdb810 on Jun 29, 2011, 01:25 PM
ditto! come on NY!  The site was down for a few minutes around 11 this morning, and I thought they were adding NY shows :)

hahaha - same with me. I got pretty excited actually.
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: tdb810 on Jun 29, 2011, 02:02 PM
Quote from: TSarge on Jun 29, 2011, 01:46 PM
Quote from: tdb810 on Jun 29, 2011, 01:25 PM
ditto! come on NY!  The site was down for a few minutes around 11 this morning, and I thought they were adding NY shows :)

hahaha - same with me. I got pretty excited actually.

me too! i texted pennylane in a panic! i get all nervous with anticipation!
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: e_wind on Jun 29, 2011, 02:09 PM
I just want an NYE or Halloween show in NYC or anywhere else
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: TSarge on Jun 29, 2011, 02:28 PM
I've got great seats for the Philly show so I won't be devastated if they don't come to NYC in August... that said, my fingers are still crossed.
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: Penny Lane on Jul 07, 2011, 02:37 PM
crickets in here lately, can we get another announcement  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

(NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC)
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: TSarge on Jul 07, 2011, 03:05 PM
Quote from: Penny Lane on Jul 07, 2011, 02:37 PM
crickets in here lately, can we get another announcement  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

(NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC)

I check the shows list every day, several times a day.  :-\

I was thinking this morning on the train that the City Center would be a cool venue to see them play at (I saw Tool there a few years back), but then I checked the site and saw that it is under renovation through September...
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: johnnYYac on Jul 07, 2011, 11:10 PM
I'll likely come back to NYC for a show.  New Years would work. 
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: brn2plybal on Jul 08, 2011, 08:43 AM
I'm now unsure about them playing this venue.

They would have announced a mid August show by now.

The only way they would hold off is if the show is on a Fri/Sat and they think it will sell out in a matter of days.

Who knows.

With each passing day, I believe NYC will get either NYE or Halloween shows.
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: wamsankas on Jul 08, 2011, 04:02 PM
Im still thinking NYE, they would have for sure announced a show for an outdoor venue by now. the waterfront made their "summer show" schedule announcement a while back with posters and everything which included september dates... COME ON NYE
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: Fritz on Jul 10, 2011, 10:18 PM
Theatre at MSG is a medium capacity NYC venue that doesn't seem to get much attention
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: WSS2 on Jul 13, 2011, 08:33 AM
still nothing...  :-\
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: subinai on Jul 13, 2011, 10:24 AM
Quote from: Fritz on Jul 10, 2011, 10:18 PM
Theatre at MSG is a medium capacity NYC venue that doesn't seem to get much attention

forgot about this place. not sure if the construction/remodeling going in the big arena affect the theater. i saw radiohead there a few years ago. decent venue from what i can remember.
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: br00ke on Jul 14, 2011, 10:31 AM
my dream of dreams .... halloween. radio city. yes!! though i'm not sure about folks being all costumed up and trashing the beautiful venue. fake blood on the seats & such? anywho, a girl's gotta dream. halloween at some venue in nyc at least !!!
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: ericm on Jul 14, 2011, 11:20 AM
Quote from: br00ke on Jul 14, 2011, 10:31 AM
my dream of dreams .... halloween. radio city. yes!! though i'm not sure about folks being all costumed up and trashing the beautiful venue. fake blood on the seats & such? anywho, a girl's gotta dream. halloween at some venue in nyc at least !!!

I  agree with you Brooke. I'm thinking the long wait to get a NYC announcement might mean we're in for something special again this year. Maybe a T5 type run somewhere, Halloween, or NYE.  :thumbsup:


I'l take any of those or all!  ;D Hey, a guy's gotta dream too. ;)
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: e_wind on Jul 14, 2011, 11:27 AM
I hope NYC gets something cool too (NEW YEARS). If its a multi-night run, I hope its a long enough run that makes it work going up to NYC. Also, t5 was right in the middle of Midterms week which fucked me out of that, so please later in the year!
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: kydiddle on Jul 14, 2011, 03:45 PM
Halloween is on a Monday and NYE is on a Friday this year.  ???
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: subinai on Jul 14, 2011, 03:55 PM
just give us something!
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: TSarge on Jul 14, 2011, 03:57 PM
Quote from: subinai on Jul 14, 2011, 03:55 PM
just give us something!

Even a nod and a wink would do!
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: br00ke on Jul 14, 2011, 05:15 PM
Quote from: TSarge on Jul 14, 2011, 03:57 PM
Quote from: subinai on Jul 14, 2011, 03:55 PM
just give us something!

Even a nod and a wink would do!

or a shimmy .. i love me a good shimmy  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: subinai on Jul 17, 2011, 11:32 AM
had a dream the show was announced. it wasn't.
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: WSS2 on Jul 18, 2011, 12:01 AM
at this point, I would highly doubt that any dates are added to the lineup pre-ACL.  Unless there have been lots of elves working behind the scene, too much logistics involved in slotting in dates near term.......fall tour post ACL?
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: Ghosts_on_TV on Jul 18, 2011, 12:43 AM
I think Tom said in an interview fall for NYC. Something along the lines of it being "too long to wait for a decent slice of pizza".
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: Penny Lane on Jul 18, 2011, 09:51 AM
Quote from: Ghosts_on_TV on Jul 18, 2011, 12:43 AM
I think Tom said in an interview fall for NYC. Something along the lines of it being "too long to wait for a decent slice of pizza".

Yep. A fall show would be good, too. (just please not Halloween, I'm in a damn wedding)
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: Bigsky on Jul 18, 2011, 10:15 AM
Quote from: Penny Lane on Jul 18, 2011, 09:51 AM
Quote from: Ghosts_on_TV on Jul 18, 2011, 12:43 AM
I think Tom said in an interview fall for NYC. Something along the lines of it being "too long to wait for a decent slice of pizza".

Yep. A fall show would be good, too. (just please not Halloween, I'm in a damn wedding)

...a damn witch wedding
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: brn2plybal on Apr 24, 2012, 10:28 AM
a new year, the venue is confirmed to be hosting 2012 concerts.  They said roughly 20 acts will play.  7,000 capacity.

MMJ? 

Any other guesses on bands?

Mumfords?
Arcade Fire?
Bon Iver?

INDIE ROCK!
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: solace on Apr 24, 2012, 10:35 AM
Quote from: brn2plybal on Apr 24, 2012, 10:28 AM
a new year, the venue is confirmed to be hosting 2012 concerts.  They said roughly 20 acts will play.  7,000 capacity.

MMJ? 

Any other guesses on bands?

Mumfords?
Arcade Fire?
Bon Iver?

INDIE ROCK!
would be surprised by Arcade Fire... they have no touring plans for 2012
Title: Re: Betting on Williamsburg Waterfront
Post by: br00ke on Apr 24, 2012, 11:11 AM
i bet we will definitely see MMJ at this venue later this summer  :thumbsup: