I'm bored, so I've been thinking about literal contradictions for a couple days now. Aaaannnndddd goooooo!
Pretty ugly
Modern Classic
FOX News
Clean coal
Liquid Gas
American Culture
Barenaked Ladies
Milwaulkee's Best
This ___________ (product) is "good for the environment"
Jumbo shrimp
Old news
Soft rock
Near miss
College Education
Budget Deficit
Butt Head
Extremely Neutral
Perhaps not oxymorons, but you get my drift:
Utah Jazz
Memphis Grizzlies
Quote from: MamaKel on Nov 28, 2012, 11:11 PM
College Education
???????
Is there some definition of college that I'm not aware of?
Military Intelligence
"I am deeply superficial." - Ava Gardner
"Even his ignorance is encyclopedic." - Stanislaw Lec
"The superfluous is the most necessary." - Voltaire
"Melancholy is the pleasure of being sad." - Victor Hugo
endless possibilities
beautiful tragedy
Quote from: Jaimoe on Nov 28, 2012, 11:26 PM
Perhaps not oxymorons, but you get my drift:
Utah Jazz
Memphis Grizzlies
Los Angeles Lakers too :thumbsup:
Quote from: touchingmept2 on Nov 29, 2012, 11:57 AM
beautiful tragedy
It's appropriate in a literary sense. Shakespeare built his career writing them.
Comedian Dane Cook
Quote from: zanjam on Nov 29, 2012, 10:58 PM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Nov 29, 2012, 10:55 PM
Comedian Dane Cook
Wow, you're on fire!
Guitarist Chad Kroeger
NFL football team: The Buffalo Bills
Quote from: Crispy on Nov 28, 2012, 10:51 PM
Jumbo shrimp
Old news
Soft rock
Near miss
Hate to be a prick but Jumbo Shrimp is a fake oxymoron. A shrimp is an animal that became slang for small. Jumbo is simply a large version of that animal. Kind of a figure 8 of logic.
( in further prickeshnish, NEWS has nothing to do with new. It stands for North, East, West, and South.)
Quote from: rincon on Nov 30, 2012, 01:36 AM
Quote from: Crispy on Nov 28, 2012, 10:51 PM
Jumbo shrimp
Old news
Soft rock
Near miss
Hate to be a prick but Jumbo Shrimp is a fake oxymoron. A shrimp is an animal that became slang for small. Jumbo is simply a large version of that animal. Kind of a figure 8 of logic.
( in further prickeshnish, NEWS has nothing to do with new. It stands for North, East, West, and South.)
Jumbo shrimp is still an oxymoron. Connotation and alternate definitions count.
Quote from: Fully on Nov 30, 2012, 03:38 AM
Quote from: rincon on Nov 30, 2012, 01:36 AM
Quote from: Crispy on Nov 28, 2012, 10:51 PM
Jumbo shrimp
Old news
Soft rock
Near miss
Hate to be a prick but Jumbo Shrimp is a fake oxymoron. A shrimp is an animal that became slang for small. Jumbo is simply a large version of that animal. Kind of a figure 8 of logic.
( in further prickeshnish, NEWS has nothing to do with new. It stands for North, East, West, and South.)
Jumbo shrimp is still an oxymoron. Connotation and alternate definitions count.
Matter of opinion. I think it is an oxymoron for someone who does not think it through.
Quote from: rincon on Nov 30, 2012, 01:36 AMQuote from: Crispy on Nov 28, 2012, 10:51 PM
Jumbo shrimp
Old news
Soft rock
Near miss
Hate to be a prick but Jumbo Shrimp is a fake oxymoron. A shrimp is an animal that became slang for small. Jumbo is simply a large version of that animal. Kind of a figure 8 of logic.
( in further prickeshnish, NEWS has nothing to do with new. It stands for North, East, West, and South.)
Eh, it's okay if you're a prick. :wink: The shrimp logic certainly has its loopness, although further investigation indicates the word itself derived from early European words meaning "puny" or "thin" or "to shrink."The "NEWS" thing I'm not buying. See here (http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/news.asp), and here (https://www.google.com/search?q=news+etymology) for more. Etymology is fun!
Come on, doesn't anyone have a copy of the OED lying around? Maybe propping up a corner of the house? (Those things are huge! Oxford English Dictionaries, that is)
News is definitely a Latinate word.
From Wikipedia
"
An oxymoron(plural
oxymoraor
oxymorons) (from Greek ὀξύμωρον, "sharp dull") is afigure of speech (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_of_speech)that combines contradictory terms. Oxymora appear in a variety of contexts, including inadvertent errors such as
ground pilotand literary oxymorons crafted to reveal a
paradox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox)."
"The most common form of oxymoron involves an adjective (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjective)-noun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noun) combination of two words. For example, the following line from Tennyson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Tennyson,_1st_Baron_Tennyson)'s Idylls of the King (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idylls_of_the_King) contains two oxymora:
"And faith unfaithful kept him falsely true."Other examples of oxymora of this kind are:Dark light
- Living dead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undead)
- Guest host (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guest_host) (also: Permanent guest host)
- Less often seen are noun-verb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verb) combinations of two words, such as the line "The silence whistles" from Nathan Alterman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Alterman)'s Summer Night, or in a record album title like Sounds of Silence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sounds_of_Silence_(album)).
Oxymora are not always a pair of words; they can also be devised in the meaning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantics) of sentences or phrases."
"Richard Lederer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lederer) assembled a taxonomy of oxymora in an article in Word Ways in 1990,[3] running from single-word oxymora such as "pianoforte (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pianoforte)" (literally, "soft-loud") through "doublespeak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublespeak) oxymora" (deliberately intended to confuse) and "opinion oxymora" (editorial opinions designed to provoke a laugh). In general, oxymora can be divided into expressions that were deliberately crafted to be contradictory and those phrases that inadvertently or incidentally contain a contradiction, often as a result of a punning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pun) use of one or both words"
"
Although a true oxymoron is "something that is surprisingly true, a paradox," Garry Wills (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garry_Wills) has argued that modern usage has brought a common misunderstanding[4] that oxymoron is nearly synonymous with contradiction. The introduction of this usage, the opposite of its true meaning, has been credited to William F. Buckley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_F._Buckley).[5]
Sometimes a pair of terms is claimed to be an oxymoron by those who hold the opinion that the two are mutually exclusive. That is, although there is no inherent contradiction between the terms, the speaker expresses the opinion that the two terms imply properties or characteristics that cannot occur together. Such claims may be made purely for humorous effect; many examples, such as military intelligence, freedom fighters, business ethics were popularized by comedian George Carlin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Carlin). Another example is the term civil war, which is not an oxymoron, but can be claimed to be so for humorous effect, if civil is construed as meaning polite rather than between citizens of the same state. Alternatively, such claims may reflect a genuinely held opinion or ideological position. Well-known examples include claims made against "government worker", "honest broker", "educational television," "Microsoft Works (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Works)" and "working from home"."
Does this help. Not the OED, but Wikipedia does a good job with grammar and literary terms.
I love that we are arguing about oxymorons and word entymology.
Quote from: Fully on Nov 30, 2012, 09:44 AM
I love that we are arguing about oxymorons and word entymology.
Far better to argue that than whether MMJ is "over" :tongue:
If the multiple universes theory is correct, there is a semi-drunk version of me in a parallel universe at McMaster University with an office the size of a broom closet who spends afternoons in the pub having discussions with Classics and Linguistics profs who are also half drunk.
Quote from: LeanneP on Nov 30, 2012, 10:02 AM
Quote from: Fully on Nov 30, 2012, 09:44 AM
I love that we are arguing about oxymorons and word entymology.
Far better to argue that than whether MMJ is "over" :tongue:
If the multiple universes theory is correct, there is a semi-drunk version of me in a parallel universe at McMaster University with an office the size of a broom closet who spends afternoons in the pub having discussions with Classics and Linguistics profs who are also half drunk.
I'm not sure that isn't actually heaven and not an alternate universe! Sometimes the other English teachers and I will sit around and discuss grammar and entymology for hours. It's always a return to reality when a teacher from the math or science dept. walks in on the conversation and starts mocking us. We don't mock them when they start discussing parabolas or dendrites.
open minded
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Nov 30, 2012, 10:37 AM
open minded
With some people it's also a fallacy.
Quote from: Crispy on Nov 30, 2012, 09:12 AM
Quote from: rincon on Nov 30, 2012, 01:36 AMQuote from: Crispy on Nov 28, 2012, 10:51 PM
Jumbo shrimp
Old news
Soft rock
Near miss
Hate to be a prick but Jumbo Shrimp is a fake oxymoron. A shrimp is an animal that became slang for small. Jumbo is simply a large version of that animal. Kind of a figure 8 of logic.
( in further prickeshnish, NEWS has nothing to do with new. It stands for North, East, West, and South.)
Eh, it's okay if you're a prick. :wink: The shrimp logic certainly has its loopness, although further investigation indicates the word itself derived from early European words meaning "puny" or "thin" or "to shrink."
The "NEWS" thing I'm not buying. See here (http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/news.asp), and here (https://www.google.com/search?q=news+etymology) for more.
Etymology is fun!
I sit corrected! If I checked everything I thought I knew on Snopes, i would probably find out Snopes is run by the far left. That is what I am told when I point out tard shit my right wing friends say are pure fantasy.
Quote from: Fully on Nov 30, 2012, 03:38 AM
Quote from: rincon on Nov 30, 2012, 01:36 AM
Quote from: Crispy on Nov 28, 2012, 10:51 PM
Jumbo shrimp
Old news
Soft rock
Near miss
Hate to be a prick but Jumbo Shrimp is a fake oxymoron. A shrimp is an animal that became slang for small. Jumbo is simply a large version of that animal. Kind of a figure 8 of logic.
( in further prickeshnish, NEWS has nothing to do with new. It stands for North, East, West, and South.)
Jumbo shrimp is still an oxymoron. Connotation and alternate definitions count.
I would have to agree with Rincon here. "Jumbo" is arbitrary.
example: A 6foot tall man might be accurately described as "jumbo" to a 4.5 food tall man. At the same time Shaq might be accurately described as "jumbo" by the 6foot tall man, and in turn Shaq would describe the 6foot man as "short" or "tiny".
Any description that makes distinction is arguably false, or at least not "true."
Tonight's dinner spawned this...
too much cheese
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Starbucks coffee
Any subdivision and urban sprawl neighbourhood that includes in its title "River" or "Meadow" or "Forest", i.e., things that were plowed over to build these ironic dysfunctional blights.
Quote from: Jaimoe on Dec 04, 2012, 07:25 AM
Any subdivision and urban sprawl neighbourhood that includes in its title "River" or "Meadow" or "Forest", i.e., things that were plowed over to build these ironic dysfunctional blights.
Nice
Quote from: Jaimoe on Dec 04, 2012, 07:25 AM
Starbucks coffee
Any subdivision and urban sprawl neighbourhood that includes in its title "River" or "Meadow" or "Forest", i.e., things that were plowed over to build these ironic dysfunctional blights.
We have a mall in Nashville called 100 Oaks, named after the 100 oak trees that had to be cleared.
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Dec 04, 2012, 11:01 AM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Dec 04, 2012, 07:25 AM
Starbucks coffee
Any subdivision and urban sprawl neighbourhood that includes in its title "River" or "Meadow" or "Forest", i.e., things that were plowed over to build these ironic dysfunctional blights.
We have a mall in Nashville called 100 Oaks, named after the 100 oak trees that had to be cleared.
Beautiful.
Were any lakes buried or rivers diverted to accomodate the new car-dependant Opryland or the nature-themed aspects of Opry Mills? In the hideous suburban city to the north of Toronto called Vaughan, there's an Opry Mills sister mall called Vaughan Mills, complete with a big Bass Pro Shop anchor store. I fucking hate Vaughan and wasn't impressed with those Nashville locales I mentioned when I visited your otherwise great town a few years ago.
Quote from: Jaimoe on Dec 04, 2012, 11:32 AM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Dec 04, 2012, 11:01 AM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Dec 04, 2012, 07:25 AM
Starbucks coffee
Any subdivision and urban sprawl neighbourhood that includes in its title "River" or "Meadow" or "Forest", i.e., things that were plowed over to build these ironic dysfunctional blights.
We have a mall in Nashville called 100 Oaks, named after the 100 oak trees that had to be cleared.
Beautiful.
Were any lakes buried or rivers diverted to accomodate the new car-dependant Opryland or the nature-themed aspects of Opry Mills? In the hideous suburban city to the north of Toronto called Vaughan, there's an Opry Mills sister mall called Vaughan Mills, complete with a big Bass Pro Shop anchor store. I fucking hate Vaughan and wasn't impressed with those Nashville locales I mentioned when I visited your otherwise great town a few years ago.
Well, as irony would have it (or reality) Opry Mills including the big ass Bass Pro Shop was flooded by the Cumberland River 2 years ago because, well, it's a flood plain!
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Dec 04, 2012, 12:50 PM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Dec 04, 2012, 11:32 AM
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Quote from: Jaimoe on Dec 04, 2012, 07:25 AM
Starbucks coffee
Any subdivision and urban sprawl neighbourhood that includes in its title "River" or "Meadow" or "Forest", i.e., things that were plowed over to build these ironic dysfunctional blights.
We have a mall in Nashville called 100 Oaks, named after the 100 oak trees that had to be cleared.
Beautiful.
Were any lakes buried or rivers diverted to accomodate the new car-dependant Opryland or the nature-themed aspects of Opry Mills? In the hideous suburban city to the north of Toronto called Vaughan, there's an Opry Mills sister mall called Vaughan Mills, complete with a big Bass Pro Shop anchor store. I fucking hate Vaughan and wasn't impressed with those Nashville locales I mentioned when I visited your otherwise great town a few years ago.
Well, as irony would have it (or reality) Opry Mills including the big ass Bass Pro Shop was flooded by the Cumberland River 2 years ago because, well, it's a flood plain!
"Cumberland Blues" indeed.
I love when people build their mansions on the fault lines in the hills and mountains of the California Coast and then complain about earthquakes and soil erosion.
Freedom of expression
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Dec 04, 2012, 11:01 AM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Dec 04, 2012, 07:25 AM
Starbucks coffee
Any subdivision and urban sprawl neighbourhood that includes in its title "River" or "Meadow" or "Forest", i.e., things that were plowed over to build these ironic dysfunctional blights.
We have a mall in Nashville called 100 Oaks, named after the 100 oak trees that had to be cleared.
I work in the city of 1000 Oaks. There are more than 1000, They are numbered and are all protected by law. You can not even prune one on your property without a permit.
Quote from: rincon on Dec 11, 2012, 07:50 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Dec 04, 2012, 11:01 AM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Dec 04, 2012, 07:25 AM
Starbucks coffee
Any subdivision and urban sprawl neighbourhood that includes in its title "River" or "Meadow" or "Forest", i.e., things that were plowed over to build these ironic dysfunctional blights.
We have a mall in Nashville called 100 Oaks, named after the 100 oak trees that had to be cleared.
I work in the city of 1000 Oaks. There are more than 1000, They are numbered and are all protected by law. You can not even prune one on your property without a permit.
I'm probably being a prick, but that is not an oxymoron.
Quote from: Fully on Dec 11, 2012, 07:57 PM
Quote from: rincon on Dec 11, 2012, 07:50 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Dec 04, 2012, 11:01 AM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Dec 04, 2012, 07:25 AM
Starbucks coffee
Any subdivision and urban sprawl neighbourhood that includes in its title "River" or "Meadow" or "Forest", i.e., things that were plowed over to build these ironic dysfunctional blights.
We have a mall in Nashville called 100 Oaks, named after the 100 oak trees that had to be cleared.
I work in the city of 1000 Oaks. There are more than 1000, They are numbered and are all protected by law. You can not even prune one on your property without a permit.
I'm probably being a prick, but that is not an oxymoron.
Sorry. I guess that was the first time ever someone made a side comment in a thread. I guess that makes you the second.
Quote from: rincon on Dec 12, 2012, 09:23 AM
Quote from: Fully on Dec 11, 2012, 07:57 PM
Quote from: rincon on Dec 11, 2012, 07:50 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Dec 04, 2012, 11:01 AM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Dec 04, 2012, 07:25 AM
Starbucks coffee
Any subdivision and urban sprawl neighbourhood that includes in its title "River" or "Meadow" or "Forest", i.e., things that were plowed over to build these ironic dysfunctional blights.
We have a mall in Nashville called 100 Oaks, named after the 100 oak trees that had to be cleared.
I work in the city of 1000 Oaks. There are more than 1000, They are numbered and are all protected by law. You can not even prune one on your property without a permit.
I'm probably being a prick, but that is not an oxymoron.
Sorry. I guess that was the first time ever someone made a side comment in a thread. I guess that makes you the second.
3rd
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Dec 12, 2012, 09:49 AM
Quote from: rincon on Dec 12, 2012, 09:23 AM
Quote from: Fully on Dec 11, 2012, 07:57 PM
Quote from: rincon on Dec 11, 2012, 07:50 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Dec 04, 2012, 11:01 AM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Dec 04, 2012, 07:25 AM
Starbucks coffee
Any subdivision and urban sprawl neighbourhood that includes in its title "River" or "Meadow" or "Forest", i.e., things that were plowed over to build these ironic dysfunctional blights.
We have a mall in Nashville called 100 Oaks, named after the 100 oak trees that had to be cleared.
I work in the city of 1000 Oaks. There are more than 1000, They are numbered and are all protected by law. You can not even prune one on your property without a permit.
I'm probably being a prick, but that is not an oxymoron.
Sorry. I guess that was the first time ever someone made a side comment in a thread. I guess that makes you the second.
3rd
4th now :grin:
Quote from: Fully on Dec 12, 2012, 09:53 AM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Dec 12, 2012, 09:49 AM
Quote from: rincon on Dec 12, 2012, 09:23 AM
Quote from: Fully on Dec 11, 2012, 07:57 PM
Quote from: rincon on Dec 11, 2012, 07:50 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Dec 04, 2012, 11:01 AM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Dec 04, 2012, 07:25 AM
Starbucks coffee
Any subdivision and urban sprawl neighbourhood that includes in its title "River" or "Meadow" or "Forest", i.e., things that were plowed over to build these ironic dysfunctional blights.
We have a mall in Nashville called 100 Oaks, named after the 100 oak trees that had to be cleared.
I work in the city of 1000 Oaks. There are more than 1000, They are numbered and are all protected by law. You can not even prune one on your property without a permit.
I'm probably being a prick, but that is not an oxymoron.
Sorry. I guess that was the first time ever someone made a side comment in a thread. I guess that makes you the second.
3rd
4th now :grin:
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"Humanity is perfectly flawed"
i'll give you a big fucking oxymoron. GUN SAFETY. fuck the fucking NRA!
Quote from: ItBeats4Jew on Dec 14, 2012, 02:05 PM
i'll give you a big fucking oxymoron. GUN SAFETY. fuck the fucking NRA!
Sad, isn't it. My students keep coming in the room upset about it.
Quote from: Fully on Dec 14, 2012, 02:13 PM
Quote from: ItBeats4Jew on Dec 14, 2012, 02:05 PM
i'll give you a big fucking oxymoron. GUN SAFETY. fuck the fucking NRA!
Sad, isn't it. My students keep coming in the room upset about it.
It's absolutely sickening :cry:
Quote from: LD on Dec 14, 2012, 03:35 PM
Quote from: Fully on Dec 14, 2012, 02:13 PM
Quote from: ItBeats4Jew on Dec 14, 2012, 02:05 PM
i'll give you a big fucking oxymoron. GUN SAFETY. fuck the fucking NRA!
Sad, isn't it. My students keep coming in the room upset about it.
It's absolutely sickening :cry:
A sad, sad day. It's my best friend's elementary school and he's pretty broken up about it right now. His father overheard the shots. Bout to go buy him a drink or two.
Quote from: ItBeats4Jew on Dec 14, 2012, 02:05 PM
i'll give you a big fucking oxymoron. GUN SAFETY. fuck the fucking NRA!
absolutely. So sad.
Quote from: ItBeats4Jew on Dec 14, 2012, 02:05 PM
i'll give you a big fucking oxymoron. GUN SAFETY. fuck the fucking NRA!
Whoa, pump the brakes brother. Some people still enjoy hunting.
Quote from: touchingmept2 on Dec 15, 2012, 02:00 PM
Quote from: ItBeats4Jew on Dec 14, 2012, 02:05 PM
i'll give you a big fucking oxymoron. GUN SAFETY. fuck the fucking NRA!
Whoa, pump the brakes brother. Some people still enjoy hunting.
I hear ya; I don't want to start a nuclear war, but GUN SAFETY is not an oxymoron. I have plenty of friends and family that are kind, loving and responsible gun owners who practice gun safety. So do police officers and the military, for the most part.
Morgan Freeman has a pretty good take on the school shootings. I would post but I'm at work and on a phone.
Quote from: touchingmept2 on Dec 15, 2012, 02:00 PM
Quote from: ItBeats4Jew on Dec 14, 2012, 02:05 PM
i'll give you a big fucking oxymoron. GUN SAFETY. fuck the fucking NRA!
Whoa, pump the brakes brother. Some people still enjoy hunting.
hey, it was an emotional day and still remains highly charged tmp2, I don't do it personally, but I don't mind hunters at all who eat what they shoot. but real hunters, who eat what they kill, don't use assault rifles. these things shouldn't be available to the public and should be used by military and police personnel only.
Quote from: ItBeats4Jew on Dec 17, 2012, 12:24 PM
Quote from: touchingmept2 on Dec 15, 2012, 02:00 PM
Quote from: ItBeats4Jew on Dec 14, 2012, 02:05 PM
i'll give you a big fucking oxymoron. GUN SAFETY. fuck the fucking NRA!
Whoa, pump the brakes brother. Some people still enjoy hunting.
hey, it was an emotional day and still remains highly charged tmp2, I don't do it personally, but I don't mind hunters at all who eat what they shoot. but real hunters, who eat what they kill, don't use assault rifles. these things shouldn't be available to the public and should be used by military and police personnel only.
Understood, but there's a better solution than to "fuck the fucking NRA"
Quote from: touchingmept2 on Dec 17, 2012, 01:35 PM
Quote from: ItBeats4Jew on Dec 17, 2012, 12:24 PM
Quote from: touchingmept2 on Dec 15, 2012, 02:00 PM
Quote from: ItBeats4Jew on Dec 14, 2012, 02:05 PM
i'll give you a big fucking oxymoron. GUN SAFETY. fuck the fucking NRA!
Whoa, pump the brakes brother. Some people still enjoy hunting.
hey, it was an emotional day and still remains highly charged tmp2, I don't do it personally, but I don't mind hunters at all who eat what they shoot. but real hunters, who eat what they kill, don't use assault rifles. these things shouldn't be available to the public and should be used by military and police personnel only.
Understood, but there's a better solution than to "fuck the fucking NRA"
but tmp2, the NRA is basically a fringe organization at this point and doesn't represent all responsible gun owners. this organization which is a very, very small segment of society, through its deep pockets and powerful lobby, is essentially responsible for curtailing any meaningful legislation to be passed or even any meaningful conversation to be had lest a politician be painted as against the 2nd amendment. and I also think that abject cowardice by our political leaders is also to blame. I mean, Obama didn't even mention the word "gun" in his remarks the other night!
the NRA shouldn't speak for gun owners the same way that Focus on the Family shouldn't speak for all people of Christian faith.
ill add two phrases
"words cannot express" --- words express everything b/c that is what words do.
"not to mention" --- usually when this phrase is used, it is always followed by that which is supposed to go unmentioned.
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