Oxymorons

[rincon]

Jumbo shrimp
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Hate to be a prick but Jumbo Shrimp is a fake oxymoron. A shrimp is an animal that became slang for small. Jumbo is simply a large version of that animal. Kind of a figure 8 of logic.

( in further prickeshnish, NEWS has nothing to do with new. It stands for North, East, West, and South.)

Jumbo shrimp is still an oxymoron. Connotation and alternate definitions count.

Matter of opinion. I think it is an oxymoron for someone who does not think it through.

[Crispy]

Jumbo shrimp
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Hate to be a prick but Jumbo Shrimp is a fake oxymoron. A shrimp is an animal that became slang for small. Jumbo is simply a large version of that animal. Kind of a figure 8 of logic.

( in further prickeshnish, NEWS has nothing to do with new. It stands for North, East, West, and South.)

Eh, it's okay if you're a prick.    The shrimp logic certainly has its loopness, although further investigation indicates the word itself derived from early European words meaning "puny" or "thin" or "to shrink."

The "NEWS" thing I'm not buying. See here, and here for more.

Etymology is fun!

[LeanneP]

Come on, doesn't anyone have a copy of the OED lying around? Maybe propping up a corner of the house? (Those things are huge! Oxford English Dictionaries, that is)

News is definitely a Latinate word.

[Fully]

From Wikipedia

"An oxymoron(plural oxymoraor oxymorons) (from Greek ὀξύμωρον, "sharp dull") is afigure of speechthat combines contradictory terms. Oxymora appear in a variety of contexts, including inadvertent errors such as ground pilotand literary oxymorons crafted to reveal aparadox."

"
The most common form of oxymoron involves an adjective-noun combination of two words. For example, the following line from Tennyson's Idylls of the King contains two oxymora:"And faith unfaithful kept him falsely true."Other examples of oxymora of this kind are:Dark light

   
• Living dead

   
• Guest host (also: Permanent guest host)

   
• Less often seen are noun-verb combinations of two words, such as the line "The silence whistles" from Nathan Alterman's Summer Night, or in a record album title like Sounds of Silence.
  Oxymora are not always a pair of words; they can also be devised in the meaning of sentences or phrases."
  
  "Richard Lederer assembled a taxonomy of oxymora in an article in Word Ways in 1990,[3] running from single-word oxymora such as "pianoforte" (literally, "soft-loud") through "doublespeak oxymora" (deliberately intended to confuse) and "opinion oxymora" (editorial opinions designed to provoke a laugh). In general, oxymora can be divided into expressions that were deliberately crafted to be contradictory and those phrases that inadvertently or incidentally contain a contradiction, often as a result of a punning use of one or both words"
  
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  Although a true oxymoron is "something that is surprisingly true, a paradox," Garry Wills has argued that modern usage has brought a common misunderstanding[4] that oxymoron is nearly synonymous with contradiction. The introduction of this usage, the opposite of its true meaning, has been credited to William F. Buckley.[5]
  Sometimes a pair of terms is claimed to be an oxymoron by those who hold the opinion that the two are mutually exclusive. That is, although there is no inherent contradiction between the terms, the speaker expresses the opinion that the two terms imply properties or characteristics that cannot occur together. Such claims may be made purely for humorous effect; many examples, such as military intelligence, freedom fighters, business ethics were popularized by comedian George Carlin. Another example is the term civil war, which is not an oxymoron, but can be claimed to be so for humorous effect, if civil is construed as meaning polite rather than between citizens of the same state. Alternatively, such claims may reflect a genuinely held opinion or ideological position. Well-known examples include claims made against "government worker", "honest broker", "educational television," "Microsoft Works" and "working from home"."
  
  Does this help. Not the OED, but Wikipedia does a good job with grammar and literary terms.
  

I love that we are arguing about oxymorons and word entymology.

[LeanneP]

I love that we are arguing about oxymorons and word entymology.

Far better to argue that than whether MMJ is "over" 

If the multiple universes theory is correct, there is a semi-drunk version of me in a parallel universe at McMaster University with an office the size of a broom closet who spends afternoons in the pub having discussions with Classics and Linguistics profs who are also half drunk.

[Fully]

I love that we are arguing about oxymorons and word entymology.

Far better to argue that than whether MMJ is "over" 

If the multiple universes theory is correct, there is a semi-drunk version of me in a parallel universe at McMaster University with an office the size of a broom closet who spends afternoons in the pub having discussions with Classics and Linguistics profs who are also half drunk.

I'm not sure that isn't actually heaven and not an alternate universe! Sometimes the other English teachers and I will sit around and discuss grammar and entymology for hours. It's always a return to reality when a teacher from the math or science dept. walks in on the conversation and starts mocking us. We don't mock them when they start discussing parabolas or dendrites.

[Tracy 2112]

open minded

[Crispy]

open minded

[Fully]

open minded

With some people it's also a fallacy.

[rincon]

Jumbo shrimp
Old news
Soft rock
Near miss

Hate to be a prick but Jumbo Shrimp is a fake oxymoron. A shrimp is an animal that became slang for small. Jumbo is simply a large version of that animal. Kind of a figure 8 of logic.

( in further prickeshnish, NEWS has nothing to do with new. It stands for North, East, West, and South.)

Eh, it's okay if you're a prick.    The shrimp logic certainly has its loopness, although further investigation indicates the word itself derived from early European words meaning "puny" or "thin" or "to shrink."

The "NEWS" thing I'm not buying. See here, and here for more.

Etymology is fun!

I sit corrected! If I checked everything I thought I knew on Snopes, i would probably find out Snopes is run by the far left. That is what I am told when I point out tard shit my right wing friends say are pure fantasy.

[woodnymph]

open minded

Ja.  indeed!

[e_wind]

Jumbo shrimp
Old news
Soft rock
Near miss

Hate to be a prick but Jumbo Shrimp is a fake oxymoron. A shrimp is an animal that became slang for small. Jumbo is simply a large version of that animal. Kind of a figure 8 of logic.

( in further prickeshnish, NEWS has nothing to do with new. It stands for North, East, West, and South.)

Jumbo shrimp is still an oxymoron. Connotation and alternate definitions count.

I would have to agree with Rincon here. "Jumbo" is arbitrary.
example: A 6foot tall man might be accurately described as  "jumbo" to a 4.5 food tall man. At the same time Shaq might be accurately described as "jumbo" by the 6foot tall man, and in turn Shaq would describe the 6foot man as "short" or "tiny".

Any description that makes distinction is arguably false, or at least not "true."

[johnnYYac]

Tonight's dinner spawned this...

too much cheese


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[Fully]

Instant classic

[Jaimoe]

Starbucks coffee

Any subdivision and urban sprawl neighbourhood that includes in its title "River" or "Meadow" or "Forest", i.e., things that were plowed over to build these ironic dysfunctional blights.

[Penny Lane]

Any subdivision and urban sprawl neighbourhood that includes in its title "River" or "Meadow" or "Forest", i.e., things that were plowed over to build these ironic dysfunctional blights.

Nice

[Tracy 2112]

Starbucks coffee

Any subdivision and urban sprawl neighbourhood that includes in its title "River" or "Meadow" or "Forest", i.e., things that were plowed over to build these ironic dysfunctional blights.

We have a mall in Nashville called 100 Oaks, named after the 100 oak trees that had to be cleared.

[Jaimoe]

Starbucks coffee

Any subdivision and urban sprawl neighbourhood that includes in its title "River" or "Meadow" or "Forest", i.e., things that were plowed over to build these ironic dysfunctional blights.

We have a mall in Nashville called 100 Oaks, named after the 100 oak trees that had to be cleared.

Beautiful.

Were any lakes buried or rivers diverted to accomodate the new car-dependant Opryland or the nature-themed aspects of Opry Mills? In the hideous suburban city to the north of Toronto called Vaughan, there's an Opry Mills sister mall called Vaughan Mills, complete with a big Bass Pro Shop anchor store. I fucking hate Vaughan and wasn't impressed with those Nashville locales I mentioned when I visited your otherwise great town a few years ago. 

[Tracy 2112]

Starbucks coffee

Any subdivision and urban sprawl neighbourhood that includes in its title "River" or "Meadow" or "Forest", i.e., things that were plowed over to build these ironic dysfunctional blights.

We have a mall in Nashville called 100 Oaks, named after the 100 oak trees that had to be cleared.

Beautiful.

Were any lakes buried or rivers diverted to accomodate the new car-dependant Opryland or the nature-themed aspects of Opry Mills? In the hideous suburban city to the north of Toronto called Vaughan, there's an Opry Mills sister mall called Vaughan Mills, complete with a big Bass Pro Shop anchor store. I fucking hate Vaughan and wasn't impressed with those Nashville locales I mentioned when I visited your otherwise great town a few years ago.

Well, as irony would have it (or reality) Opry Mills including the big ass Bass Pro Shop was flooded by the Cumberland River 2 years ago because, well, it's a flood plain! 

[Jaimoe]

Starbucks coffee

Any subdivision and urban sprawl neighbourhood that includes in its title "River" or "Meadow" or "Forest", i.e., things that were plowed over to build these ironic dysfunctional blights.

We have a mall in Nashville called 100 Oaks, named after the 100 oak trees that had to be cleared.

Beautiful.

Were any lakes buried or rivers diverted to accomodate the new car-dependant Opryland or the nature-themed aspects of Opry Mills? In the hideous suburban city to the north of Toronto called Vaughan, there's an Opry Mills sister mall called Vaughan Mills, complete with a big Bass Pro Shop anchor store. I fucking hate Vaughan and wasn't impressed with those Nashville locales I mentioned when I visited your otherwise great town a few years ago.

Well, as irony would have it (or reality) Opry Mills including the big ass Bass Pro Shop was flooded by the Cumberland River 2 years ago because, well, it's a flood plain!

"Cumberland Blues" indeed.

I love when people build their mansions on the fault lines in the hills and mountains of the California Coast and then complain about earthquakes and soil erosion.