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Title: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: ManNamedTruth on Mar 27, 2013, 02:50 AM
Thought we had a topic on this but the search showed up nada, must've gotten lost through all the changes. Just watched Paul Simon Live in New York City and it's really awesome, really impressive tight band that makes for some very danceable tunes. Seeing him with Garfunkle would be awesome too, but I think I would prefer a Paul Simon show for the incredible musicianship. I never thought about putting him on my must-see-live bucket list until fairly recently, and this cements that desire.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: FiddleCastro on Mar 27, 2013, 10:08 AM
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Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Shug on Mar 27, 2013, 11:46 AM
The Last Waltz!!!!  It will always be the numero uno concert film in my book, just the best ever.  Beautifully filmed by Scorcese.
http://youtu.be/d-iW1-xgLEY (http://youtu.be/d-iW1-xgLEY)

People have been raving about Runnin' Down A Dream in the Tom Petty thread.  The 4 hour version is the one to watch.  Peter Bogdanovich did a tremendous job.  Its a documentary, not a concert film.

As for other top concert films, for me the list includes:
Okonokos
Ladies and Gentlemen, the Rolling Stones
Manassas live on German TV
Into the Fog - The Black Crowes
Concert For Bangladesh - George Harrison and friends
Live At Pompei - Pink Floyd
Led Zeppelin - Live at Albert Hall 1970 (part of the DVD set)
The Who - Isle of Wight
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Shug on Mar 27, 2013, 11:58 AM
ManNamedTruth, the Simon and Garfunkel concert films from the 1981(?) concert in Central Park and then the one from their 2003(?) tour are both very good.  Simon knows how to pick a kickin' band, that is for sure.  Late In The Evening from Central Park is cookin'!
http://youtu.be/U7k7KcRKZiA (http://youtu.be/U7k7KcRKZiA)
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Tracy 2112 on Mar 27, 2013, 12:12 PM
For all the haters: open your mind and watch

Rush: Beyond the Lighted Stage Movie Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk8hbSxY0sE#ws)

Neil Peart as described by Jack Black and Others (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwqsRu3f6Mg#ws)
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Ruckus on Mar 27, 2013, 01:02 PM
I have this on my DVR and I still watch it every time it comes on on VH1 Classic.  It's simply the best despite the annoying Jack Black.  Thankfully fat Sebastian Bach lends real humor to the mix.  I hope they remain the world's biggest cult band.

Just watched Mr. Big live at Budokan on axs and that was an unstoppable performance.  Move over Last Waltz
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: EverythingChanges on Mar 27, 2013, 02:19 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Mar 27, 2013, 12:12 PM
For all the haters: open your mind and watch

Rush: Beyond the Lighted Stage Movie Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk8hbSxY0sE#ws)

Neil Peart as described by Jack Black and Others (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwqsRu3f6Mg#ws)

This was what I was going to post.  The best documentary ever! I hope MMJ will make something like this sometime down the road.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: e_wind on Mar 27, 2013, 02:28 PM
The Last Waltz
Stop Making Sense
I Am Trying to Break Your Heart
Imagine in Cornice
PJ20
American Hardcore:
"If you're looking for radicalism in the 1980s, you should look at american hardcore."
American Hardcore - Trailer - Sony Pictures Classics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1ZnFT2qAJU#ws)


Though I do think Rollins is a bit of a douche.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Tracy 2112 on Mar 27, 2013, 02:57 PM
So many great ones

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77ZmpOCqkOA# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77ZmpOCqkOA#)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvAta5i4lFs# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvAta5i4lFs#)
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Jaimoe on Mar 27, 2013, 03:21 PM
Everyone must see this doc ASAP. It's hilarious, sad and yet uplifting.


(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dqzuNsPkBxs/ULESnHcR3XI/AAAAAAAAEUg/yMbZ9EbVapk/s1600/Anvil.jpg)
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Jackets N Pones on Mar 27, 2013, 03:34 PM
This is NOT America
Okonokos
Acoustic Chorale
Avett Brothers Live, Volume 3
PJ20
The Promise: The Making of Darkness on the Edge of Town
Bruce live in Barcelona
Bruce live at MSG on VHS
Tenacious D Complete Master Works
Guns N' Roses Live in Tokyo
NUINY
Purple Rain
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: ManNamedTruth on Mar 27, 2013, 08:42 PM
Need to see We Jam Econo, American Hardcore, and Beyond the Lighted Stage.

Some of my favorites:
The Last Waltz (duh)
Concert for Bangladesh
Flaming Lips- Fearless Freaks
The Clash - Westway to the World
Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
Bob Dylan - Don't Look Back, No Direction Home
Pixies - Loud Quiet Loud
Avett Brothers - volume 3
Pink Floyd - Live at Pompeii
Pearl Jam Imagine in Cornice
Woodstock
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Jaimoe on Mar 27, 2013, 10:59 PM
Honestly folks, Anvil: The Story of Anvil is more entertaining than almost all of your recommendations. It's not a concert film (unlike half or what's been mentioned) - it's a straight-up rock documentary, so you'll get the nuts and bolts behind the story along with some music thrown in for good meaure. I like concert films for what they are, but Anvil is a doc, and a damn fine one at that!
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Penny Lane on Mar 28, 2013, 11:30 AM
There are a few new or good ones up on Netflix instant:

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(really good grunge era footage I'd never seen before..)
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Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: LD on Mar 28, 2013, 02:30 PM
Quote from: Shug on Mar 27, 2013, 11:46 AM
The Last Waltz!!!!  It will always be the numero uno concert film in my book, just the best ever.  Beautifully filmed by Scorcese.
http://youtu.be/d-iW1-xgLEY (http://youtu.be/d-iW1-xgLEY)

People have been raving about Runnin' Down A Dream in the Tom Petty thread.  The 4 hour version is the one to watch.  Peter Bogdanovich did a tremendous job.  Its a documentary, not a concert film.

As for other top concert films, for me the list includes:
Okonokos
Ladies and Gentlemen, the Rolling Stones
Manassas live on German TV
Into the Fog - The Black Crowes
Concert For Bangladesh - George Harrison and friends
Live At Pompei - Pink Floyd
Led Zeppelin - Live at Albert Hall 1970 (part of the DVD set)
The Who - Isle of Wight

I would have preferred to see  the Last Waltz concert with two versions, with and without the interviews. It was filmed beautifully for its time, no doubt, but the interviews disrupt the overall vibe for me somewhat.  This is the only criticism I have,  with the exception of having Neil Diamond as a guest..totally out of place IMO.  I do really love this one though!
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: LeanneP on Mar 28, 2013, 04:57 PM
I Am Trying To Break Your Heart is a fave.
Live at Pompeii never fails to send me to space.
Straight Outta LA was decent.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Tired Eyes on Mar 28, 2013, 05:52 PM
The Last Waltz
Gimme Shelter
Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Rust Never Sleeps
Stop Making Sense
Get Thrashed (about thrash metal)

I like PJ20 very much but I think it should have been longer and Cameron Crowe was overly fixated on the early years of the band. 

Searching for Sugar Man
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Jaimoe on Mar 28, 2013, 05:57 PM
The early years of PJ 20 were the only scenes I found interesting.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: buaawwww on Apr 05, 2013, 03:10 PM
I could NOT disagree with you guys more re: PJ20.  Maybe it's just because they are one of my favorite bands I don't know, but I loved everything about it.  So yeah, that's up there for me.

Outside of that, a couple of other definites:

- The Who "The Kids Are Alright"
- Led Zeppelin "Led Zeppelin DVD"
- Blind Melon "Letters From A Porcupine"
- Pink Floyd "Live at Pompeii"
- The Doors "When You're Strange"
- The Band "The Last Waltz" (obviously)
- "Such Hawks Such Hounds: Scenes From the American Hard Rock Underground"
- Grateful Dead - "The Grateful Dead Movie"
- Rush - "Beyond the Lighted Stage"
- Foo Fighters - "Back and Forth"
- Nine Inch Nails - "Beside You In Time" (the Blu Ray is incredible)

That's some for ya... off the top of my head anyway.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Tired Eyes on Apr 05, 2013, 04:01 PM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Mar 28, 2013, 05:57 PM
The early years of PJ 20 were the only scenes I found interesting.

That was kinda my point.  Since Cameron Crowe wasn't very interested in the middle or later years of Pearl Jam, he didn't do much with those years in the movie.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Tired Eyes on Apr 05, 2013, 04:11 PM
Quote from: buaawwww on Apr 05, 2013, 03:10 PM
I could NOT disagree with you guys more re: PJ20.  Maybe it's just because they are one of my favorite bands I don't know, but I loved everything about it.  So yeah, that's up there for me.

They're one of my favorite bands too.  You know how casual PJ fans often act like they didn't do anything worthwhile past their first 2-3 albums?  That's kinda how Cameron Crowe came across in the movie, as he focused very little on the years after 1995 or so.  That's the one thing I didn't like about the movie (other than it was too short).
Title: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: ewiser on Apr 06, 2013, 10:22 AM
Just saw Sound City last week and really love it. Good behind the curtain look at one of the great recording studios and what made it special.


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Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Jaimoe on Apr 06, 2013, 10:37 AM
Quote from: Tired Eyes on Apr 05, 2013, 04:11 PM
Quote from: buaawwww on Apr 05, 2013, 03:10 PM
I could NOT disagree with you guys more re: PJ20.  Maybe it's just because they are one of my favorite bands I don't know, but I loved everything about it.  So yeah, that's up there for me.

They're one of my favorite bands too.  You know how casual PJ fans often act like they didn't do anything worthwhile past their first 2-3 albums?  That's kinda how Cameron Crowe came across in the movie, as he focused very little on the years after 1995 or so.  That's the one thing I didn't like about the movie (other than it was too short).

If they did do more kickass albums after say the 3rd album, there'd be a lot less casual fans. I think PJ are a great live band with too many average songs. Eddie isn't great at writing catchy melodies.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Tired Eyes on Apr 06, 2013, 10:44 AM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Apr 06, 2013, 10:37 AM
Quote from: Tired Eyes on Apr 05, 2013, 04:11 PM
Quote from: buaawwww on Apr 05, 2013, 03:10 PM
I could NOT disagree with you guys more re: PJ20.  Maybe it's just because they are one of my favorite bands I don't know, but I loved everything about it.  So yeah, that's up there for me.

They're one of my favorite bands too.  You know how casual PJ fans often act like they didn't do anything worthwhile past their first 2-3 albums?  That's kinda how Cameron Crowe came across in the movie, as he focused very little on the years after 1995 or so.  That's the one thing I didn't like about the movie (other than it was too short).

If they did do more kickass albums after say the 3rd album, there'd be a lot less casual fans. I think PJ are a great live band with too many average songs. Eddie isn't great at writing catchy melodies.

No Code and Yield are both classic albums. 
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: weeniebeenie on Apr 07, 2013, 08:54 AM
Okonokos
Runnin' Down A Dream
PJ Live At Madison Square Garden (most importantly Matt Cam, same goes for Touring Band 2000)
Hype!
The Police: The Synchronicity Concert (because the crowds dance moves/enthusiasm is so funny)
Be Here To Love Me
Title: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: e_wind on Apr 07, 2013, 12:03 PM
Quote from: Tired Eyes on Apr 06, 2013, 10:44 AM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Apr 06, 2013, 10:37 AM
Quote from: Tired Eyes on Apr 05, 2013, 04:11 PM
Quote from: buaawwww on Apr 05, 2013, 03:10 PM
I could NOT disagree with you guys more re: PJ20.  Maybe it's just because they are one of my favorite bands I don't know, but I loved everything about it.  So yeah, that's up there for me.

They're one of my favorite bands too.  You know how casual PJ fans often act like they didn't do anything worthwhile past their first 2-3 albums?  That's kinda how Cameron Crowe came across in the movie, as he focused very little on the years after 1995 or so.  That's the one thing I didn't like about the movie (other than it was too short).

If they did do more kickass albums after say the 3rd album, there'd be a lot less casual fans. I think PJ are a great live band with too many average songs. Eddie isn't great at writing catchy melodies.

No Code and Yield are both classic albums.

Yes. They're the best two PJ albums. I read the initial comment and thought "what the.....?"
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Penny Lane on Apr 08, 2013, 09:17 AM
Quote from: e_wind on Apr 07, 2013, 12:03 PM
Quote from: Tired Eyes on Apr 06, 2013, 10:44 AM
No Code and Yield are both classic albums.

Yes. They're the best two PJ albums. I read the initial comment and thought "what the.....?"

yeah but these are classic albums to PJ fans only, and the documentary is targeted towards the masses..
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Fully on Apr 08, 2013, 11:00 AM
Quote from: Penny Lane on Apr 08, 2013, 09:17 AM
Quote from: e_wind on Apr 07, 2013, 12:03 PM
Quote from: Tired Eyes on Apr 06, 2013, 10:44 AM
No Code and Yield are both classic albums.

Yes. They're the best two PJ albums. I read the initial comment and thought "what the.....?"

yeah but these are classic albums to PJ fans only, and the documentary is targeted towards the masses..

The masses are great ...

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Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Tired Eyes on Apr 08, 2013, 11:53 AM
Quote from: Penny Lane on Apr 08, 2013, 09:17 AM
Quote from: e_wind on Apr 07, 2013, 12:03 PM
Quote from: Tired Eyes on Apr 06, 2013, 10:44 AM
No Code and Yield are both classic albums.

Yes. They're the best two PJ albums. I read the initial comment and thought "what the.....?"

yeah but these are classic albums to PJ fans only, and the documentary is targeted towards the masses..

I disagree withi this.  Cameron Crowe's other films are targeted towards the masses.  PJ20 was for Pearl Jam fans.
Its total domestic gross was $471,334.
When was the last time a music documentary was a mainstream hit? 
EDIT: I just looked it up.  By far the top-grossing music documentary in the U.S. is the Justin Bieber film with over 73 million in domestic gross.  By contrast, The Last Waltz has a domestic gross of $322,313.  Wow, that is depressing.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Tired Eyes on Apr 08, 2013, 12:06 PM
Quote from: Fully on Apr 08, 2013, 11:00 AM
Quote from: Penny Lane on Apr 08, 2013, 09:17 AM
Quote from: e_wind on Apr 07, 2013, 12:03 PM
Quote from: Tired Eyes on Apr 06, 2013, 10:44 AM
No Code and Yield are both classic albums.

Yes. They're the best two PJ albums. I read the initial comment and thought "what the.....?"

yeah but these are classic albums to PJ fans only, and the documentary is targeted towards the masses..

The masses are great ...

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTUxuz4KjbRAls4wuM1vP6Mp77It-JtyBNIG9orTNDLgmQNxPourw)

As usual, Triumph is spot on.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: buaawwww on Apr 08, 2013, 01:15 PM
Quote from: e_wind on Apr 07, 2013, 12:03 PM
Quote from: Tired Eyes on Apr 06, 2013, 10:44 AM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Apr 06, 2013, 10:37 AM
Quote from: Tired Eyes on Apr 05, 2013, 04:11 PM
Quote from: buaawwww on Apr 05, 2013, 03:10 PM
I could NOT disagree with you guys more re: PJ20.  Maybe it's just because they are one of my favorite bands I don't know, but I loved everything about it.  So yeah, that's up there for me.

They're one of my favorite bands too.  You know how casual PJ fans often act like they didn't do anything worthwhile past their first 2-3 albums?  That's kinda how Cameron Crowe came across in the movie, as he focused very little on the years after 1995 or so.  That's the one thing I didn't like about the movie (other than it was too short).

If they did do more kickass albums after say the 3rd album, there'd be a lot less casual fans. I think PJ are a great live band with too many average songs. Eddie isn't great at writing catchy melodies.

No Code and Yield are both classic albums.

Yes. They're the best two PJ albums. I read the initial comment and thought "what the.....?"

Yes there could have been more on the later and more recent years of the band, but that doesn't bother me as much.  I enjoyed very much watching all of the earlier years and all of the stuff on Andy Wood was terrific.  I've seen these guys upwards of 20 times now, and frankly I think the best album they've ever made was the self titled Pearl Jam album.  That front to back is perfect.  And their most recent album was also pretty great.  To each their own I guess that's fine.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Penny Lane on Apr 08, 2013, 02:03 PM
I meant 'to the masses' as to more casual PJ fans (or casual music fans) rather than to the mainstream overall. I don't think most mainstream people would even watch a rockumentary. (Although I think most people would watch a biopic about a shitty pop star like Justin B. Sad.) I still think judging by Crowe's focus on early PJ, their philanthropy and how Eddie guides them and their business outside the confounds of the typical music biz is a testament of how he's geared this more towards the casual fan. I loved it.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Tired Eyes on Apr 08, 2013, 02:16 PM
Quote from: Penny Lane on Apr 08, 2013, 02:03 PM
I meant 'to the masses' as to more casual PJ fans (or casual music fans) rather than to the mainstream overall. I don't think most mainstream people would even watch a rockumentary. (Although I think most people would watch a biopic about a shitty pop star like Justin B. Sad.) I still think judging by Crowe's focus on early PJ, their philanthropy and how Eddie guides them and their business outside the confounds of the typical music biz, is a testament of how he's geared this more towards the casual fan. I loved it.

I loved the movie too.  I guess I'm just nitpicking as I'm such a big Pearl Jam fan and think it could have been even better.  I'm very glad that Crowe made the movie and that he's a fellow PJ fan.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: HansAndreas on Apr 08, 2013, 03:04 PM
Dig! and The Devil And Daniel Johnston.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Jaimoe on Apr 08, 2013, 03:54 PM
I wasn't a casual PJ fan in the early '90s. Loved the early stuff, but bailed by the mid '90s, although I liked songs here and there.

Bittersweet Motel is a solid doc, but I pretty much hate jam bands now.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Penny Lane on Apr 08, 2013, 04:05 PM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Apr 08, 2013, 03:54 PM
I wasn't a casual PJ fan in the early '90s. Loved the early stuff, but bailed by the mid '90s, although I liked songs here and there.

I really loved their first few albums and was really obsessed with them for a while but have only found a song or two on each album afterwards that really stuck with me. My respect for them as a band and for what Eddie's done with his rock star power far exceeds my like of the music. I really wish I liked them more.

Also, who in rock-n-roll is hotter than Eddie Vedder on a surfboard? (JJ with a cape or JQ with a jigsaw? That's a legitimate question..)
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Jaimoe on Apr 08, 2013, 05:03 PM
Quote from: Penny Lane on Apr 08, 2013, 04:05 PM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Apr 08, 2013, 03:54 PM
I wasn't a casual PJ fan in the early '90s. Loved the early stuff, but bailed by the mid '90s, although I liked songs here and there.

I really loved their first few albums and was really obsessed with them for a while but have only found a song or two on each album afterwards that really stuck with me. My respect for them as a band and for what Eddie's done with his rock star power far exceeds my like of the music. I really wish I liked them more.

Also, who in rock-n-roll is hotter than Eddie Vedder on a surfboard? (JJ with a cape or JQ with a jigsaw? That's a legitimate question..)

Their collaborative with Neil Young kicks ass. Love their Who covers, especially "Leaving Here". Eddie's solo work is awesome.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: LeanneP on Apr 08, 2013, 05:51 PM
Quote from: Penny Lane on Apr 08, 2013, 04:05 PM
My respect for them as a band and for what Eddie's done with his rock star power far exceeds my like of the music. I really wish I liked them more.

This! 

I'm just not interested.  But Vedder et al are decent guys.

Hans, I totally agree, Dig! is awesome!  As is The Devil and Danial Johnston.

Have I mentioned Watch Me Jumpstart?  Because it's AWESOME and kicked off my love of Guided By Voices which was my obsession about 14 years ago and the other community I was part of. When alienlanes pressed play on this movie, I was about 10 minutes into it and I turned to him and said, "I know this is going to sound a little premature, but this is my favourite band in the whole world!"   :grin:
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: manonthemoon on Apr 08, 2013, 10:00 PM
Quote from: LeanneP on Apr 08, 2013, 05:51 PM
Quote from: Penny Lane on Apr 08, 2013, 04:05 PM
My respect for them as a band and for what Eddie's done with his rock star power far exceeds my like of the music. I really wish I liked them more.

This! 

I'm just not interested.  But Vedder et al are decent guys.

Hans, I totally agree, Dig! is awesome!  As is The Devil and Danial Johnston.

Have I mentioned Watch Me Jumpstart?  Because it's AWESOME and kicked off my love of Guided By Voices which was my obsession about 14 years ago and the other community I was part of. When alienlanes pressed play on this movie, I was about 10 minutes into it and I turned to him and said, "I know this is going to sound a little premature, but this is my favourite band in the whole world!"   :grin:

I too have never been too huge of a PJ fan, even though two of my favorite songs ever are black and I got shit.  Something to do with his voice just kind of turns me off of the songs, but the way they conduct themselves as a band in the public eye was always commendable.  Still would love to catch them live to see if that would change my mind any.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Dillsnufus on Apr 10, 2013, 12:48 AM
(http://www.caratulas.com/caratulas/P/Pearl_Jam/Pearl_Jam-Live_At_The_Garden_Bonus-Frontal.jpg)

Pearl Jam - Sonic Reducer - Dead Boys cover (Live At The Garden '03) 27 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuYGvNeSwUo#ws)
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: weeniebeenie on Apr 10, 2013, 07:54 AM
Quote from: Dillsnufus on Apr 10, 2013, 12:48 AM
(http://www.caratulas.com/caratulas/P/Pearl_Jam/Pearl_Jam-Live_At_The_Garden_Bonus-Frontal.jpg)

Pearl Jam - Sonic Reducer - Dead Boys cover (Live At The Garden '03) 27 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuYGvNeSwUo#ws)
Yep! I probably watch this one the most out of all the PJ DVDs.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: e-stone on Apr 10, 2013, 06:23 PM
Sigur Rós - Heima

Sigur Ros - Heima Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZYIfUdIyfs#)

absolutely gorgeous, visually stunning, etc etc...just begging for a blu ray release.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Colfax on Apr 11, 2013, 03:08 PM
for me, it starts and ends with STOP MAKING SENSE. I've never seen a better concert film than that.

I had it on VHS for years, but love the add ons on the DVD. David Byrne interviewing David Byrne is a must see.

Tom Petty's Runnin Down a Dream is pretty awesome too.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Penny Lane on Apr 11, 2013, 11:17 PM
I think Gimme Shelter is probably the most important, brutal and most sincere music doc ever made. It's perfect.

Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: sweatboard on Apr 11, 2013, 11:30 PM
The Last Watlz is the end all be all
Led Zep - How The West Was Won
I have all PJ dvd's, I'd say Madison Square Garden is the one that captures them the best right now.  In My Tree is worth the price alone.   
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: sweatboard on Apr 11, 2013, 11:31 PM
Pearl Jam - In My Tree (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ2RebziO68#)
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Tired Eyes on Apr 12, 2013, 12:35 AM
Quote from: Dillsnufus on Apr 10, 2013, 12:48 AM
(http://www.caratulas.com/caratulas/P/Pearl_Jam/Pearl_Jam-Live_At_The_Garden_Bonus-Frontal.jpg)

Pearl Jam - Sonic Reducer - Dead Boys cover (Live At The Garden '03) 27 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuYGvNeSwUo#ws)

I was at this show and it was great.  I love that I can watch the DVD whenever I want...takes me back to that night.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Penny Lane on Apr 12, 2013, 09:50 AM
I love the The Last Waltz but Martin Scorcese was so up Robbie Robertson's ass, I feel like there could have been better footage and interviews with the rest of the band, although they were clearly out of it. The stuff on stage is spectacular.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: bluesky on Apr 12, 2013, 10:14 AM
Quote from: Penny Lane on Apr 11, 2013, 11:17 PM
I think Gimme Shelter is probably the most important, brutal and most sincere music doc ever made. It's perfect.
those Maysles brothers got it right. i have a story to tell you next time we see each other :smiley:
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Jaimoe on Apr 12, 2013, 10:26 AM
Quote from: bluesky on Apr 12, 2013, 10:14 AM
Quote from: Penny Lane on Apr 11, 2013, 11:17 PM
I think Gimme Shelter is probably the most important, brutal and most sincere music doc ever made. It's perfect.
those Maysles brothers got it right. i have a story to tell you next time we see each other :smiley:

Not sure if you've seen it, but SCTV's spoof of Gimme Shelter, "Gimme Jackie", is fucking genius. Jackie Rogers Jr. (Martin Short) watching footage of him on stage singing show tunes in front of a hostile crowd of Shriners. F. Lee Bailey grills him about his manhood etc... God love SCTV.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Colfax on Apr 12, 2013, 11:02 AM
The best part about The Last Waltz is the enormous coke booger that you can see in Neil Young's nose.

Kills me every time.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Penny Lane on Apr 12, 2013, 11:12 AM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Apr 12, 2013, 10:26 AM
Not sure if you've seen it, but SCTV's spoof of Gimme Shelter, "Gimme Jackie", is fucking genius. Jackie Rogers Jr. (Martin Short) watching footage of him on stage singing show tunes in front of a hostile crowd of Shriners. F. Lee Bailey grills him about his manhood etc... God love SCTV.

need to see.. :grin:
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Shug on Apr 12, 2013, 04:24 PM
Quote from: Colfax on Apr 12, 2013, 11:02 AM
The best part about The Last Waltz is the enormous coke booger that you can see in Neil Young's nose.

Kills me every time.

Its hilarious how Neil is working his jaw, totally coked to the gills!  We always laugh when we watch that.  Its pretty safe to assume that most of the musicians were doing blow that night and they all do a pretty good job of hiding it, but not Neil!  LD says he looks like he went snorkeling in the coke, ala Scarface! :grin:
Title: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: e_wind on Apr 12, 2013, 06:47 PM
Quote from: manonthemoon on Apr 08, 2013, 10:00 PM
Quote from: LeanneP on Apr 08, 2013, 05:51 PM
Quote from: Penny Lane on Apr 08, 2013, 04:05 PM
My respect for them as a band and for what Eddie's done with his rock star power far exceeds my like of the music. I really wish I liked them more.

This! 

I'm just not interested.  But Vedder et al are decent guys.

Hans, I totally agree, Dig! is awesome!  As is The Devil and Danial Johnston.

Have I mentioned Watch Me Jumpstart?  Because it's AWESOME and kicked off my love of Guided By Voices which was my obsession about 14 years ago and the other community I was part of. When alienlanes pressed play on this movie, I was about 10 minutes into it and I turned to him and said, "I know this is going to sound a little premature, but this is my favourite band in the whole world!"   :grin:

I too have never been too huge of a PJ fan, even though two of my favorite songs ever are black and I got shit.  Something to do with his voice just kind of turns me off of the songs, but the way they conduct themselves as a band in the public eye was always commendable.  Still would love to catch them live to see if that would change my mind any.

It would.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: APR on Apr 12, 2013, 08:41 PM
I love all of PJ's....Immagine and PJ20 already mentioned.  Non PJ fans must check out MMJ doing A Quick One with Eddie, which is one of the bonus features on Immagine. 

But don't forget Single Video Theory!  They were doing no press back then, so seeing behind the scenes footage, rehearsing, and interesting interviews was a rarity back then.   

I love when C. Crowe asks Eddie what Pearl Jam means to him.....  Eddie's expression and then the transition to a rocking Evolution gives chills.  For those that like the band as people/professionals more than the music, you can see the band dynamic and how they interact.  Check out Eddie and Stone discussing Wishlist.  Classic.  And Eddie's, "It's Stone's fault."   A lot of cool moments on SVT.

Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: alienlanes on Apr 12, 2013, 11:13 PM
Did anyone mention Festival Express? It's a beauty.

For live concert films, I love Thin Lizzy's Alive & Dangerous and the Deep Puprple black and white Live in Copenhagen 1972 film too.

One of the best, yet still officially unreleased films is the Grateful Dead movie called "Sunshine Daydream". Not sure why it has never been released. Also, while it is cheesy, the "Black N Blue" concert film of Black Sabbath and Blue Oyster Cult never was released on DVD.

I also recommend David Gilmour's Live at the Royal Albert Hall blu-ray, and Opeth's Live at the Royal Albert hall dvd.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Shug on Apr 14, 2013, 12:11 AM
Thanks for those suggestions, alienlanes.  I will seek out that Deep Purple and the Thin Lizzy.

I just ordered Hendrix Band of Gypsies on DVD.  Apparently it was remasted for better audio a couple years ago.

I'm always on the look out for good vintage 70s stuff.

Did I mention the Manassas live on German TV DVD?  That is prime Grade A rock in my book.  Stills is kinda underrated, I think.  He was so so good back then, truly blazing lead guitar and a very interesting multi-genre blended style of music in Manassas with Latin percussion, Hendrix-style rock and country rock (Al Perkins and Chris Hillman).  Sounds weird but it really worked.

I prefer straight concert films, the less extraneous stuff like interviews, the better.  I just want to feel like I am at the show.  I wish Festival Express had more concert footage.  It is a good document of a really cool and historic tour that was more fun for the musicians than the fans, probably.

Also, for Wilco, I love Ashes of American Flags over I Will Break Your Heart, for the same reason: more of a concert film than a documentary.  I also prefer the Nels/Pat lineup over the Jay Bennet ones.

And the Grateful Dead Sunshine Daydream film has never come out apparently because the filmmakers and the Dead cannot come to a business agreement about it.  That was a stellar day of music by the Dead, soaked in LSD, with that lethargic yet purposeful feel.  Man, oh man what a great show.  Bird Song, Playin In The Band, Dark Star>El Paso, Greatest Story, tons of highlights.  You can see most of it on YouTube, I believe and there are bootleg versions floating around, too.  It'd be real nice to have it audio mastered and cleaned up, though.  Maybe one day.  it works for me because its all from one concert, its mostly music with just enough footage of the audience and crew to give you a feel for the experience.  A hot summer day in Oregon in 1972 at a hippie gathering, you just don't see stuff like that anymore!
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: LeanneP on Apr 14, 2013, 12:08 PM
Quote from: Shug on Apr 14, 2013, 12:11 AM
I prefer straight concert films, the less extraneous stuff like interviews, the better.

Alienlanes can probably corroborate - and it's probably obvious from my choices - but I love documentaries over concert films.  I like looking into the behind the scenes stuff. As a people watcher, I find that stuff fascinating.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Penny Lane on Apr 15, 2013, 10:43 AM
Quote from: alienlanes on Apr 12, 2013, 11:13 PM
Did anyone mention Festival Express? It's a beauty.

Love this! what started as a great idea for a tour made for a great film at least..i think we've talked about it before but the nuances are so amazing...the scenes with Rick Danko, Janis and Jerry are incredibly telling...didn't they run out of alcohol after 3 days or something?
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: LeanneP on Aug 06, 2013, 10:41 PM
Alienlanes and I are watching Beware Mr Baker about Ginger Baker and it's fucking brilliant!  He's totally crazy. Highly recommended. 
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Colfax on Aug 08, 2013, 02:28 PM
Good call on Festival Express

Grateful Dawg with Jerry Garcia and David Grisman is pretty nice too


I never tire of Concert for George (Harrison) and Talking Heads Stop Making Sense.

There's a great music documentary on the Wetlands currently on Netflix.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: parkervb on Aug 08, 2013, 07:05 PM
Haven't reviewed the whole post but I just saw "Shut Up and Play the Hits" about LCD Soundsystem's final show at MSG. I had little to no exposure to them other than hearing "Daft Punk Is Playing..." and reading about how fast the show sold out. But damn that was a fucking show. Not so much of a fan of the James Murphy interview parts with Chuck Klosterman.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: alienlanes on Aug 10, 2013, 11:20 PM
Did I remember Pink Floyd's Live At Pompeii!?

So fucking good!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Crispy on Aug 11, 2013, 03:55 AM
Quote from: alienlanes on Aug 10, 2013, 11:20 PM
Did I remember Pink Floyd's Live At Pompeii!?

So fucking good!  :thumbsup:

Yes!

However, it can be annoying when I get it out and forget that the original is way better than the 2003 "director's cut" version until I've already watched the whole thing.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: ericm on Aug 13, 2013, 10:46 AM
Springsteen - Live at Hammersmith 1975. A concert film that's part of the Born To Run 30 yr Anniversary box set.

Genesis- Come Rain Or Shine. A rockumentary with a little bit of the show. Mostly behind the scenes rehearsal, planning of the tour, stage design, and setup. Not to mention ALL THE RAIN!  :wink: The 3rd DVD in their "When In Rome" DVD from the 2007 tour.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: pawpaw on Aug 13, 2013, 11:59 AM
Quote from: Colfax on Apr 11, 2013, 03:08 PM
for me, it starts and ends with STOP MAKING SENSE. I've never seen a better concert film than that.

I agree completely, and I'm not even a huge Talking Heads fan. I mean, I like 'em, a lot, just not TOTALLY CRAZY (:cheesy:) about 'em or anything.

Talking Heads - Burning down the house LIVE "Stop making sense" 1984 HQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g42Xg-mAkGg#ws)

Ladies and Gentlemen: The Rolling Stones is another outstanding one, and of course, so is The Last Waltz.

I like a lot of the others already mentioned, but I'll also throw out The T.A.M.I Show, Wattstax, and Stax/Volt Revue Live In Norway 1967. They're all awesome.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: mahg33ta on Aug 14, 2013, 10:31 AM
I watched the Eagles documentary playing on Showtime these days and really enjoyed it.   (and I'm not an Eagles fan by any means).   Lots of high quality old footage.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: pawpaw on Aug 14, 2013, 11:11 AM
Quote from: mahg33ta on Aug 14, 2013, 10:31 AM
I watched the Eagles documentary playing on Showtime these days and really enjoyed it.   (and I'm not an Eagles fan by any means).   Lots of high quality old footage.

I haven't seen it, but was just reading about it last night. Bill Simmons loves it! I'd definitely like to see it.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9562051/the-eagles-greatest-hit (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9562051/the-eagles-greatest-hit)
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Shug on Aug 14, 2013, 07:38 PM
I am a big fan of the Eagles music (even though I think Glenn Frey and Irving Azoff and to a lesser extent, Don Henley, have behaved absolutely atrociously and from what I can tell by what they say and do and what other band members have said about them, they are despicable people).  I have known for a long time what great songwriters they are, but what shocked me is just how kick ass they were as singers.  Some of that footage where they are warming up before going on stage or singing backstage and especially the short concert DVD of the 1976 show, they are frickin' singing their asses off!  Don Henley has a killer voice and Randy Meisner's singing just slays me. And the songs are so so great.

I love disc 1 (the early years) and I hate disc 2 (the reunion years) of the documentary, but it is a really good package.  Why they hell they didn't release the entire concert, or more of it, is baffling to me.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: weeniebeenie on Aug 15, 2013, 10:15 AM
I watched the Eagles documentary a little while ago and loved it. I had to rewind that part where Glenn, Randy and Bernie are are singing Silver Dagger just because it was so good. I kind of knew a bit about how Glenn and Don treated other band members but what really shocked me was how matter of fact and blunt they were about it all. Like they were in the right when, in my opinion they were massive jerks. But my gosh they're good song writers. And I love Joe, he's great!
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Shug on Aug 15, 2013, 12:28 PM
Yeah, weenie, I agree.  It was shocking to hear how Frey openly admitted without shame that he and Don demanded more money than the rest of the band and basically gave them an ultimatum.  And I hated seeing how hurt Felder was in one of the interview scenes when he was saying he loved playing music with those guys, but couldn't stand the way he was treated.  He got so emotional, he had to stand up and leave the interview.  A friend I know spent quite a bit of time with Felder once and told me how humble and down-to-earth he is.  I hate it when greed ruins a great band.

I don't know if that live concert from '76 has any vocal overdubs or not.  The idealist part of me thinks it does not and if that is true, its fucking amazing how good their vocals were, even live.  The cynic in me wonders if they did redo the vocals later in the studio.  I mean, its so damn perfect.  But I really doubt they would overdub on the backstage/rehearsal footage and they are singing just as killer then, as well, and acapella, no less.  Stunningly good singing, I love that shit!
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: Shug on Aug 15, 2013, 02:03 PM
Quote from: bbill on Aug 14, 2013, 11:11 AM
Quote from: mahg33ta on Aug 14, 2013, 10:31 AM
I watched the Eagles documentary playing on Showtime these days and really enjoyed it.   (and I'm not an Eagles fan by any means).   Lots of high quality old footage.

I haven't seen it, but was just reading about it last night. Bill Simmons loves it! I'd definitely like to see it.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9562051/the-eagles-greatest-hit (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9562051/the-eagles-greatest-hit)

The Bill Simmons essay is pretty cool, even though I'm not sure I agree with him on each point.  I think the Eagles' music is a little more serious and important to me than it is for him. 

His assertion that a rock band is like a basketball team makes me think of an interesting philosophical question.  I can see his point (a group of people working together with a common goal, but each with a different role that deserves different rewards), but for me they are not the same.  Basketball is sport and music is art.  Performance on a sports team can easily be measured by statistics (even though there are other intangibles) but that is not really true for rock bands (unless you count who sang or wrote how many songs or guitar solos, which is a related topic: why do songwriters get more money in the music business than the ones who play an instrument or sing?  Is there inherently more value to songwriting than playing music?).  For me, sports is primarily entertainment, while music, even though it can entertain, can also serve loftier purposes to people and societies.  It can serve a spiritual purpose or speak to one's soul about the meaning of life and deals in the realm of feelings and all those kind of things.  That is why I don't think different members of the Eagles should have earned more or less money than the others.  Its a fundamental disagreement I have with many folks. Would the Eagles have been anywhere near as good without Randy Meisner's vocals?  I say they would not and I think he should earn just as much money as Don or Glenn.  Rock bands should be egalitarian.  Obviously Don and Glenn (and many many others) disagree.  But they have for years been in the music business more than they have been artists.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: wheelhousetunes on Aug 15, 2013, 02:27 PM
For those that mentioned the Grateful Dead's "Sunshine Daydream" it is now up for pre-order on dead.net. Multiple versions available, but of course I went for the blu-ray edition.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: APR on Aug 15, 2013, 09:49 PM
I'm a pretty big Radiohead fan and remember seeing Meeting People Is Easy.  That was a weird one.  It could probably make people not like the band.... at least their personalities.  They (especially Thom) seem different in more recent interviews.  I guess that's not my favorite.

I really like Jeff Buckley Grace Around the World.

My favorites though are Okonokos and some Pearl Jam  - Single Video Theory for those that like the behind the scenes/interview stuff.  And Live at the Garden for those that like just one show straight thru.  I don't see how someone could watch PJ 20 and not become a fan.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: APR on Aug 30, 2013, 11:52 PM
Quote from: ewiser on Apr 06, 2013, 10:22 AM
Just saw Sound City last week and really love it. Good behind the curtain look at one of the great recording studios and what made it special.


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This is definitely worth watching!  Palladia, VH1, and VH1 Classic have been airing it recently. 
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: APR on Dec 15, 2013, 07:08 PM
Foals - Live at the Royal Albert Hall = Awesome.   It came out about a few weeks ago.  There is some between song banter/backstage stuff but not much.  It rocks especially the last two songs, Inhaler and Two Steps Twice.

Title: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: e_wind on Dec 16, 2013, 10:44 AM
I watched A Band Called Death on Nexflix not too long ago. It was great.
Title: Re: favorite rockumentaries/concert films
Post by: LeanneP on Dec 16, 2013, 05:09 PM
e_wind, agreed. A Band Called Death was fantastic.