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Title: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: capt. scotty on Apr 25, 2013, 04:11 PM
Merry Football Xmas to you all!  :beer:

What/who is everyone hoping their team gets in the 1st round? Im crossing my fingers that Barkevious Mingo or Jarvis Jones falls to the Steelers at 17. At this point, I think Mingo being there is a stretch, really dont think he gets past NO at 15 if he even makes it that far. I think there's a decent chance Jarvis Jones is still there.

If theyre both gone, gimme Kenny Vaccarro. If all 3 of them are gone, I guess go with a DB (Trufant, Rhodes, Hayden).
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: manonthemoon on Apr 25, 2013, 09:42 PM
My Phins keep on breaking my heart trade up loosing their top 2nd rounder for not one of the tackles that they desparately need or a CB which they need as well, but for a DE who I personally don't see being a great player.  Not really big on most pac 12 guys in general, and I honestly thought this guy was going to be a bust when first looking at the first round along with Smith, mingo, and most of the WRs ranked in the first. 

I swear the last time I was happy with a draft was when they picked up Long and of course Ireland lets him walk and there are talks of trading away another 2nd rounder for a guy who isn't as good as long then paying him more per year.  Already looking for them to suck so Ireland gets the ax he deserves....
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: Colfax on Apr 26, 2013, 04:58 PM
my team just won the Superbowl again. I've learned to trust their drafting judgement.

Ozzie knows all!

Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: capt. scotty on Apr 27, 2013, 03:05 PM
We got Jarvis Jones, so Im happy.

That said, divisional foes BAL and CIN have also had strong drafts I think, as has SF. The strong get stronger.
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: Tracy 2112 on Jun 10, 2013, 06:52 PM
OK, Tebow to the Patriots, obviously not to compete for the QB job or even be a back up.

What does Belichick have up his sleeve? Tight end? Fullback? DE?
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: johnnYYac on Jun 10, 2013, 07:11 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jun 10, 2013, 06:52 PM
OK, Tebow to the Patriots, obviously not to compete for the QB job or even be a back up.

What does Belichick have up his sleeve? Tight end? Fullback? DE?
I gotta admit, I'm stumped.  I never understood the deal with this guy, now I've gotta put up with him on my team.  Ugh!
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: manonthemoon on Jun 10, 2013, 07:52 PM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Jun 10, 2013, 07:11 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jun 10, 2013, 06:52 PM
OK, Tebow to the Patriots, obviously not to compete for the QB job or even be a back up.

What does Belichick have up his sleeve? Tight end? Fullback? DE?
I gotta admit, I'm stumped.  I never understood the deal with this guy, now I've gotta put up with him on my team.  Ugh!

We'll if most football people know he is a great football player, not a qb, but a football player.  The problem with him is that he wanted to be a qb when everyone else thought he would be better served moved to a different position.  I am sure if he is willing to make the switch he will be a great addition.  Plus on a team like the Pats there no chance of the qb and back up doing bad and the fanbase clamoring for Tim to come in, barring two injuries IMO.
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: Tracy 2112 on Jun 10, 2013, 11:19 PM
Quote from: manonthemoon on Jun 10, 2013, 07:52 PM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Jun 10, 2013, 07:11 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jun 10, 2013, 06:52 PM
OK, Tebow to the Patriots, obviously not to compete for the QB job or even be a back up.

What does Belichick have up his sleeve? Tight end? Fullback? DE?
I gotta admit, I'm stumped.  I never understood the deal with this guy, now I've gotta put up with him on my team.  Ugh!

We'll if most football people know he is a great football player, not a qb, but a football player.  The problem with him is that he wanted to be a qb when everyone else thought he would be better served moved to a different position.  I am sure if he is willing to make the switch he will be a great addition.  Plus on a team like the Pats there no chance of the qb and back up doing bad and the fanbase clamoring for Tim to come in, barring two injuries IMO.

I'll go as far as saying he will do whatever Belichick asks him to do. Should be interesting.
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: Mahgeetah34 on Jun 11, 2013, 02:21 AM
I honestly hope Tim Tebow succeeds in whatever postion he ends up playing.
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: FiddleCastro on Jun 11, 2013, 11:15 AM
I hope Tim Tebow has the same effect on the Pats he had on the Jets  :wink:
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: Jackets N Pones on Jun 11, 2013, 06:12 PM
Time for the COLTS to pick up Vonta Leach.
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: capt. scotty on Jun 11, 2013, 10:19 PM
Quote from: FiddleCastro on Jun 11, 2013, 11:15 AM
I hope Tim Tebow has the same effect on the Pats he had on the Jets  :wink:

In-deed
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: johnnYYac on Jun 11, 2013, 11:13 PM
I like this guy's outlook...

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--patriots--signing-of-tim-tebow-could-be-coach-bill-belichick-s-latest-masterstroke-223318894.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--patriots--signing-of-tim-tebow-could-be-coach-bill-belichick-s-latest-masterstroke-223318894.html)
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: capt. scotty on Jun 11, 2013, 11:55 PM
I only hate Belichick because of how much of a mastermind he is. I hate Brady slightly more because of Gisele
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: manonthemoon on Jun 12, 2013, 08:45 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jun 11, 2013, 11:55 PM
I only hate Belichick because of how much of a mastermind he is. I hate Brady slightly more because of Gisele

Not because he is a proven cheater?  No titles since the scandle is all that needs to be said about that one.
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: capt. scotty on Jun 12, 2013, 10:50 PM
Quote from: manonthemoon on Jun 12, 2013, 08:45 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jun 11, 2013, 11:55 PM
I only hate Belichick because of how much of a mastermind he is. I hate Brady slightly more because of Gisele

Not because he is a proven cheater?  No titles since the scandle is all that needs to be said about that one.

Oh there's that too, I guess its just been long enough where I dont call them the Cheaters anymore  :bath:
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: johnnYYac on Jun 12, 2013, 11:58 PM
Quote from: manonthemoon on Jun 12, 2013, 08:45 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jun 11, 2013, 11:55 PM
I only hate Belichick because of how much of a mastermind he is. I hate Brady slightly more because of Gisele

Not because he is a proven cheater?  No titles since the scandle is all that needs to be said about that one.
:rolleyes:
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: Jackets N Pones on Jun 13, 2013, 03:36 PM
Nice article on your 2013 MVP

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2013/06/12/quarterback-andrew-luck-takes-charge-matt-hasselbeck/2415811/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2013/06/12/quarterback-andrew-luck-takes-charge-matt-hasselbeck/2415811/)
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: Colfax on Jun 27, 2013, 03:07 PM
So in all this unfortunate Aaron Hernandez nonsense, I took a look back at his last game/play and realized he was tackled by none other than Bernard Pollard.

Anyone who hates the Pats just has to LOOOOOOVE Pollard. It's becoming comical now.

Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: oistheone on Jun 27, 2013, 06:09 PM
You guys see this latest news from Schefter? Boston PD located an SUV connected with an unsolved double murder in 2012 -- the SUV was rented to Aaron Herndandez. This dude is a straight up stone cold killa! The guy (likely) played a whole season in the NFL after killing two guys! Jeeeeeeeeez...
Title: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: johnnYYac on Jun 27, 2013, 06:58 PM
Go Pats!
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: ManNamedTruth on Jun 27, 2013, 10:27 PM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Jun 27, 2013, 06:58 PM
Go Pats!

Aaron Hernandez murders. Stupid girls reaction! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_FIrCQWyYs#ws)
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: iLikeBeer on Jun 28, 2013, 09:50 AM
Quote from: ManNamedTruth on Jun 27, 2013, 10:27 PM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Jun 27, 2013, 06:58 PM
Go Pats!

Aaron Hernandez murders. Stupid girls reaction! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_FIrCQWyYs#ws)

Holy shit?!  Forget the fact that you had an alleged murderer living in your posh neighborhood?!  Yeah, who cares how many murders that douchebag Hernandez committed as long as the Pats still have a good season...  Whoooo!!!   :rolleyes:


The NFL as a whole seems to be spiraling out of control and what is the loser commissioner doing about it???  There have been 27 NFL players arrested since the Super Bowl!   I'm becoming sick of these players feeling so freaking entitled.  My wish (although it's a pipedream) is if you are convicted of a felony, your NFL career is OVER.  I still hate that Michael Vick was given a chance to make MORE millions after the crimes he was convicted of and did prison time for.  What does that show these athletes? 

Goodell acts like he's this tough commissioner but when it comes to cleaning up the thugs in his league, he's nothing but a pansy ass!!!
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: oistheone on Jun 28, 2013, 05:38 PM
Really don't wanna generalize, but I will anyway -- I completely agree that the behavior of players NFL in particular is spiraling out of control. I don't have stats to back this up but it seems like there are about a million times more arrests of NFL players than any other sport.

I'm sure 90% of the NFL are good guys, but the abundance of criminals in the league is hard to ignore. I won't name any names, but there was a kid from my hometown who was NO GOOD. He lived in a MASSIVE MANSION on my street, and his family actually had ANOTHER MANSION on the same street. He had a shitload of money and drove around in expensive cars, but I hated him because him and his cronies used to bully the shit outta me, he was arrested on a monthly basis, was known to hang out with ARMS dealers (not only drugs, MUHFUCKIN GUNS!), and at a party he hosted RIGHT ON MY STREET, some kid got shot and killed. Murder went unsolved. I don't wanna speculate but I have a feeling money might have covered it up. Anyway, this very kid was drafted and is in the NFL right now.

The local sports news did a story on him the day he was drafted and seeing him be praised by the media just made me feel sick inside. All this Hernandez shit just got me thinkin' about this again, and how there are probably hundreds of other straight-up dumbass thugs in the NFL, who are making millions of dollars a year. A little bothersome.

But September's around the corner so who is READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL!?!?!
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: manonthemoon on Jun 28, 2013, 08:20 PM
Well if the NFLs treatment of Ray Lewis is any indication of how they treat criminals who either a kill people or b no who killed two people and helped cover up said killing then it isn't suprising that things like this happen.  All they get is a slap on the wrist.  Look at Stallworth, Leonard Little, all of the others that have killed people while drinking and driving and people just lok the other way these days, kind of sad.

Of course a lot of this is hard to control as I believe in second chances and lots of these guys never have anything stick due to them being great athletes and colleges go easy on the stars we all know that.  But you would think the background check on Hernandez would of picked up something with all that has came out recently and talk of gang relations while growing up.
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: iLikeBeer on Jun 29, 2013, 07:38 AM
Quote from: manonthemoon on Jun 28, 2013, 08:20 PM
Of course a lot of this is hard to control as I believe in second chances and lots of these guys never have anything stick due to them being great athletes and colleges go easy on the stars we all know that.  But you would think the background check on Hernandez would of picked up something with all that has came out recently and talk of gang relations while growing up.

It's all about winning.  Bottom line.  It started for Hernandez in high school.  He was a great high school football player and likely got away with a lot more shit than some average joe.  Then, at UF, Urban Meyer didn't exactly have the greatest track record of recruiting straight and narrow athletes.  Hernandez already had a history of failed marijuana tests coming out of high school, yet he was only suspended for one game at UF for pot use???  Seems to me winning took precedence once again.  The warning signs have been there with Hernandez, but winning takes precedence so it's easier to just look the other way and pass him on to the next level...  :rolleyes:

I too believe in 2nd chances, but there has to be a line where you just don't get a 2nd chance.  If convicted, Hernandez doesn't deserve a 2nd chance.  If you are convicted of a felony, you don't deserve a 2nd chance... 
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: manonthemoon on Jun 29, 2013, 11:36 AM
I was talking about 2nd chances dealing with like the marijuana test stuff or lesser stuff as well, not something like being involved in murders or rape or something of that nature.  Classifiying it as all felonies is kind of weak though as an assualt charge from a bar fight can give you that or theft over 500 is a felony so all felonies aren't the same.

I do agree that if you are a great athletes you get lots of people to look the other way when it comes to the rest of your life, like personal issues, grades, etc.
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: capt. scotty on Sep 05, 2013, 09:00 PM
Season starts tonight...at some point. WTF is a lightning delay in football and when did the NFL become baseball?!
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: ericm on Sep 05, 2013, 09:16 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Sep 05, 2013, 09:00 PM
Season starts tonight...at some point. WTF is a lightning delay in football and when did the NFL become baseball?!

There's been delays, and stopping of games before for severe lightning. Why risk it? I sure wouldn't want to be on the field or in the stands with that going on. I can't imagine anyone would.

That said.......GO GIANTS!! Smack those Boys on Sunday night, and stay undefeated at Jerryworld.
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: iLikeBeer on Sep 06, 2013, 09:27 AM
They cleared the stadiums last week for the South Carolina and MSU games because of lightning.  Baseball stops play if it's raining too hard.  Football plays thru rain, but not if there is lightning in the area...
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: Jackets N Pones on Sep 06, 2013, 12:48 PM
A LUCK for MVP in 2013
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: iLikeBeer on Sep 06, 2013, 02:03 PM
Quote from: Jackets N Pones on Sep 06, 2013, 12:48 PM
A LUCK for MVP in 2013

Not if Payton keeps having performances like he did last night...  :shocked:
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: joey_rogo on Sep 06, 2013, 03:28 PM
I started that Denver TE on my FF team last night and I felt like such hot shit until I saw that my matchup had Peyton as his QB  :cry:
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: capt. scotty on Sep 06, 2013, 07:30 PM
Donkeys are going to be tough this year. Not like they will have to play in Mile High every week, but I think Baltimore might struggle this year. That defense is a shell of itself and Flacco has no one to throw to besides Torrey.
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: Tracy 2112 on Sep 08, 2013, 04:40 PM
steelers look great
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: Ruckus on Sep 08, 2013, 04:56 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Sep 08, 2013, 04:40 PM
steelers look great
(http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1182/1342247085_b701b617f7_z.jpg?zz=1)
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: johnnYYac on Sep 09, 2013, 10:37 AM
Tracy, I'm bummed a friend of mine has 16 tix to Pats v. Saints on Oct. 13.  He bought a block of seats to reward his employees and someone couldn't go, so they offered it to me gratis.  All I have to do is fly to Foxboro from Iowa City.  Not gonna happen.  You have any frequent flyer miles?  :wink:
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: joey_rogo on Sep 09, 2013, 11:18 AM
I actually feel pretty good about the giants losing by 5 points while going -5 in the turnover department. Imagine if they only went -3.... woulda blown em out!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: FiddleCastro on Sep 09, 2013, 11:19 AM
The Saints did not look like the worst defense in the history of the NFL yesterday.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: Tracy 2112 on Sep 09, 2013, 03:11 PM
Quote from: FiddleCastro on Sep 09, 2013, 11:19 AM
The Saints did not look like the worst defense in the history of the NFL yesterday.  :thumbsup:

that was last year  :rolleyes:

Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: Tracy 2112 on Sep 09, 2013, 03:12 PM
Honey Badger stops a Jared Cook TD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLN-v7tZ8wM#ws)

Honey badger don't care if Carlos Dansby got beat; Honey Badger just takes what he wants
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: BH on Sep 09, 2013, 05:44 PM
Honey Badger still lost.   
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: Tracy 2112 on Sep 09, 2013, 05:59 PM
Quote from: BH on Sep 09, 2013, 05:44 PM
Honey Badger still lost.   

Honey Badger don't care
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: capt. scotty on Sep 11, 2013, 01:43 AM
Yeah, as a Steelers fan, I think Im in for the longest year I can recall
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: Tracy 2112 on Sep 11, 2013, 10:23 AM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Sep 09, 2013, 10:37 AM
Tracy, I'm bummed a friend of mine has 16 tix to Pats v. Saints on Oct. 13.  He bought a block of seats to reward his employees and someone couldn't go, so they offered it to me gratis.  All I have to do is fly to Foxboro from Iowa City.  Not gonna happen.  You have any frequent flyer miles?  :wink:

You know, if the game was the next 2 Sundays I will be in New England and could go!
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: johnnYYac on Sep 11, 2013, 11:50 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Sep 11, 2013, 10:23 AM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Sep 09, 2013, 10:37 AM
Tracy, I'm bummed a friend of mine has 16 tix to Pats v. Saints on Oct. 13.  He bought a block of seats to reward his employees and someone couldn't go, so they offered it to me gratis.  All I have to do is fly to Foxboro from Iowa City.  Not gonna happen.  You have any frequent flyer miles?  :wink:

You know, if the game was the next 2 Sundays I will be in New England and could go!
Damn, I would've tried to hook you up.  I really want to go, but I'm missing a funeral in NH next week so coming a month later for a football game sees a bit crass.
Title: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: johnnYYac on Sep 15, 2013, 09:00 AM
My Pats played Thursday. I've got Sunday Ticket. What game(s) should I watch today?
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: joey_rogo on Sep 15, 2013, 09:23 AM
DAL/KC and WSH/GB seem like good ones at 1pm. And at 4, you should watch JAX/OAK, you know... for the lulz.
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: Jackets N Pones on Sep 23, 2013, 03:19 PM
COLTS
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: ManNamedTruth on Sep 25, 2013, 12:16 AM
Michael Smith of ESPN mentioned today that Terrelle Pryor looks like Michael from The Wire. What do you think?

(http://insidesportsdata.com/newswire/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Pryor-oakland.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/80/The_Wire_Michael.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: Crispy on Sep 25, 2013, 11:15 AM
Uncanny! Let's hope nobody asks him how their hair looks.
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: capt. scotty on Oct 01, 2013, 02:25 PM
Haha, yeah, Pryor definitely looks like Michael Lee.

Man, I never thought the Steelers would be this bad while Roethlisberger was still around, let alone still in his prime. Im almost positive we'll be getting a Top 5 pick. Honestly not too sad about that because I thought coming into the year this Steelers team had no chance to beat Denver or NE - almost definitely on the road - in the playoffs. With the emergence of teams like Indy, KC, Miami, and the overall improvement of the AFC (I believe 17-5 vs the NFC so far), Id rather get a stud draft pick than end up 9-7 and not even make the playoffs.
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: iLikeBeer on Oct 01, 2013, 04:19 PM
The way the AFC North is playing out, 9-7 might just be good enough to win that division.  Cleveland already has a win vs. Cincy.  Baltimore hasn't looked that great outside of their beat-down of Houston.  And Rothlisberger has already declared your Steelers as the worst team in football, although the Giants might have something to say about that...  :grin:

Saw you mentioned something about the Richardson trade in the Current Joys thread so I figured my response was more fitting in here.

I was never really a fan of drafting Richardson that high to begin with.  If you look at recent Super Bowl winners, most of them did it with a relatively unknown running back.  This is because the running back is no longer the focal point of the offenses in the NFL. 

And then you have the fact that Richardson averaged about 3 ypc during his time in Cleveland and had yet to break a run for more than 10 yards in their first two games.  And he's coming off of a 60 yard performance on 20 carries last week for Indy which is right at 3 ypc...  Shocking!   :rolleyes:

One thing I was worried about was the fact that we really didn't have anyone to fill in for Richardson, but they went out and signed McGahee which looks like it might be an ok signing.

As for what we got for the trade, I'm just happy its a first round pick.  I
might have been pissed had we gotten a 2nd and multiple later round picks.  Now I just have to root for the Colts to start losing, but the way their playing, it looks like it will be a late first round pick at best...
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: capt. scotty on Oct 01, 2013, 05:18 PM
I think it was a good trade for both teams. When you are in the state of the current Browns, you cant use 1st round picks on RBs. So, it was a smart move for them, although that pick I have a feeling is going to be in the 20's and those players are no guarantee. Im interested to see if they actually trade Gordon or not. I doubt they would take less than a 2nd for him since that's what they used to get him, but Im not sure teams will pay that price considering he is a bong rip away from a 1 year suspension. I think he is a potential Top 15 WR and legit though.

Colts had a glaring need for a RB. Just this week it already paid off with Bradshaw being out. Im not sure Trent will turn out to be the best RB since All Day, but I think he will continue to improve if he can stay healthy. He's also on a very cheap contract for a few years.
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: iLikeBeer on Oct 01, 2013, 07:45 PM
Yeah.  I agree that it was a win for both teams.  I think the Colts probably will end up paying more of the correct market value if that pick ends up in the 20's.  Honestly, unless a rb has the potential of an AP, you are crazy to draft a rb in the top 10 if you ask me.

Gordon is a tough one.  He is a stud and IMO, has been a big reason the Browns have won their last 2 games (defense is the #1 reason).  He's a difference maker and he's also probably making Brandon Weeden wish he never got hurt.  Personally, I cant think of another player since the Browns have been back that has the potential that Gordon has shown so far.  But the guy can't stay clean and the prospect of losing him for a year would be a huge blow for the Browns.  Personally, I think he's worth the risk and I would hire a professional baby sitter to make sure he didn't fuck up anymore. 
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: capt. scotty on Oct 02, 2013, 08:11 PM
Jordan Cameron is crushing for my fantasy football team as well!  :bath:
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: Jackets N Pones on Oct 09, 2013, 10:37 AM
COLTS
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: mons on Oct 20, 2013, 08:53 PM
PATS all the way. Heinous ending to today's game, though.
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: Jackets N Pones on Oct 21, 2013, 08:39 AM
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Sep 06, 2013, 02:03 PM
Quote from: Jackets N Pones on Sep 06, 2013, 12:48 PM
A LUCK for MVP in 2013

Not if Payton keeps having performances like he did last night...  :shocked:

COLTS

Hope Reggie is ok though...
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: ericm on Nov 03, 2013, 09:20 AM
Stress free Sunday.   :thumbsup: The Giants have a bye. :wink: 

Go Chargers, Raiders, and Vikings.  :beer:
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: TheBigChicken on Nov 04, 2013, 11:36 AM
Quote from: ericm on Nov 03, 2013, 09:20 AM
Stress free Sunday.   :thumbsup: The Giants have a bye. :wink: 

Go Chargers, Raiders, and Vikings.  :beer:


were you pulling for Tampa as well :grin: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: ericm on Nov 04, 2013, 12:03 PM
Quote from: TheBigChicken on Nov 04, 2013, 11:36 AM
Quote from: ericm on Nov 03, 2013, 09:20 AM
Stress free Sunday.   :thumbsup: The Giants have a bye. :wink: 

Go Chargers, Raiders, and Vikings.  :beer:


were you pulling for Tampa as well :grin: :rolleyes:

Nah, I figure them, Jax,and the Vikings have the top picks locked up already.  :grin: besides with the god awful NFC East, it's crazy to say but the Giants aren't out of that race! I won't be getting my hopes up though til after this upcoming three game home stand. Not counting on it but if they win those three, it'll make for a fun,and interesting finish to the season.
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: iLikeBeer on Nov 05, 2013, 11:05 AM
Quote from: ericm on Nov 04, 2013, 12:03 PMbesides with the god awful NFC East, it's crazy to say but the Giants aren't out of that race! I won't be getting my hopes up though til after this upcoming three game home stand. Not counting on it but if they win those three, it'll make for a fun,and interesting finish to the season.

You aren't crazy eric.  Dallas has shit the bed when they could have put this race to bed a while ago?!  Dallas could easily be 7-2 or even 8-1 right now and sitting pretty with a 3-4 game lead on the division but instead have blown games with KC, Denver and Detroit leaving the division very much up in the air.

As for your G-men, they have lowly Oakland at home, now Rogers-less Green Bay the next week and Dallas after that.  Meanwhile, Dallas has a roadie with NO, the always challenging BYE and then a roadie at your G-men.  If NY sweeps those 3 and Dallas loses their next two, the Gints are only 1/2 game back of Dallas. 

Speaking of bad divisions, the AFC North could be equally bad.  Funny how last year, these 2 divisions were regarded as two of the best are now two of the worst.  But I gotta say I love seeing my Brownies above BOTH the Steelers and the Ravens in the standing this late in the season!   :thumbsup:  Cleveland is also still very alive thanks to Cincy's choke job in Miami.  And the Browns also have a bye to prepare for their next game which just so happens to be against those Bungles!   :beer:
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: ericm on Nov 05, 2013, 12:46 PM
I like the way you think,Beer.  :thumbsup:

I've ran through those scenarios in my head too, but I'm not going to think too far ahead. At this point it's one game at a time for me. They still need to take care of their own business, and play better. They've started to, and hopefully can build on it. There's still some real talent on this team with championship pedigree, and coaching. They've gone on runs before, so who knows?  Thankfully, as you said, Dalllas has shit the bed and kept this division winnable for any team in it.

Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: capt. scotty on Nov 06, 2013, 08:41 PM
I said it earlier in the season, but I never thought I see a Steelers team this bad while Roethlisberger, and Lebeau, were still around.

Giants pretty similar with Eli & Co. No pass rush to speak of has finally exposed their lacking in the back 7.
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: iLikeBeer on Nov 08, 2013, 10:49 AM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Nov 06, 2013, 08:41 PM
I said it earlier in the season, but I never thought I see a Steelers team this bad while Roethlisberger, and Lebeau, were still around.


I'm quite shocked as well.  If there is one thing the Steelers have been great at it is replenishing their roster through the draft, especially along the lines.  But, I don't know how it happened, but suddenly the Steelers are very old and they really don't have any answers to help them out it seems. 

And quite honestly, the Ravens are in the same boat as the Steelers.  And they are a team, with Ozzy Newsome at GM, who have also done an excellent job of replenishing through the draft and free agency.

Meanwhile, the Browns and Bengals have been loading up.  They are young and they have talent and the Browns have a ton of picks in next year's draft as well! 

It has been a loooooong 14 years since the Browns rejoined the NFL back in '99.  One playoff appearance and no playoff wins and pretty much a LOT of wasted high draft picks and a LOT of QB's who never panned out.  But, for the first time, it truly feels that the Browns have figured things out.  They aren't all the way there yet, but there is definitely a sense that things are making a turn for the better in Cleveland!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: ericm on Nov 10, 2013, 05:49 PM
It wasn't pretty, but I'll take a Giant win no matter what it looks like.  :thumbsup:  :grin:

Even though they've gotten lucky with the qb's they've been facing, the D is improving. Getting Beason was huge, and Will Hill back too. Now if the offense, and special teams coverage start picking it up, they might get on a nice roll.

Eli threw a horrible pick six today, probably the worst of the year, but the O-Line is giving up way too much pressure. They need to get better, and quick. Losing Eli would be the end of their season for sure.
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: FiddleCastro on Nov 11, 2013, 11:55 AM
I think the Saints may have won last night.
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: ericm on Nov 11, 2013, 12:18 PM
Quote from: FiddleCastro on Nov 11, 2013, 11:55 AM
I think the Saints may have won last night.

I think you're right but I like to think of it more as a Cowboy loss.  :wink: sounds SO much better that way to me.  :grin:
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: FiddleCastro on Nov 11, 2013, 01:27 PM
Quote from: ericm on Nov 11, 2013, 12:18 PM
Quote from: FiddleCastro on Nov 11, 2013, 11:55 AM
I think the Saints may have won last night.

I think you're right but I like to think of it more as a Cowboy loss.  :wink: sounds SO much better that way to me.  :grin:

:grin: I like the sound of both!
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: Jackets N Pones on Dec 23, 2013, 08:18 PM
Wins against Denver/Seattle/San Fran/KC and still flying way under the radar.

Way to go COLTS.

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Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: capt. scotty on Dec 24, 2013, 07:39 PM
Colts have had some nice wins, but also some headscratchingly bad losses, including blowout ones.

Luck has regressed some, and they have no running game to speak of. Honestly if the Steelers had better than needing 3 teams to lose this weekend to get into the playoffs, Indy would be the team Id want to play.
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: Tired Eyes on Dec 25, 2013, 12:15 AM
The Chiefs are likely to visit the Colts in the first round of the playoffs.  If that happens, I do not see the Chiefs espcaping Indy with a win.  The Colts are a team on the rise and I don't agree that Luck has regressed this season.  If you want to see an NFL quarterback who has regressed, just look at RGIII.  Ouch.
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: iLikeBeer on Dec 25, 2013, 10:33 AM
Quote from: Tired Eyes on Dec 25, 2013, 12:15 AM
The Chiefs are likely to visit the Colts in the first round of the playoffs.  If that happens, I do not see the Chiefs espcaping Indy with a win.  The Colts are a team on the rise and I don't agree that Luck has regressed this season.  If you want to see an NFL quarterback who has regressed, just look at RGIII.  Ouch.

I don't think its fair to say RG3 has regressed. He hasn't been close to 100% and it didn't help that he tried to come back from his acl injury way too early.
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: capt. scotty on Dec 27, 2013, 08:43 PM
After looking at his numbers, I guess I exagerrated on Luck regressing a bit, but he's gotten a decent amount of garbage time production.

Id be pretty shocked if Indy beat KC even if its Indy's home game. KC is one of, if not, the most overlooked team heading into the playoffs. They have a well balanced defense that can pass rush, and a very efficient offense that doesnt turn the ball over. And at least based on how this year is gone, the most dangerous RB in the NFL.
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: Jackets N Pones on Dec 30, 2013, 01:42 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Dec 27, 2013, 08:43 PM
After looking at his numbers, I guess I exagerrated on Luck regressing a bit, but he's gotten a decent amount of garbage time production.

Id be pretty shocked if Indy beat KC even if its Indy's home game. KC is one of, if not, the most overlooked team heading into the playoffs. They have a well balanced defense that can pass rush, and a very efficient offense that doesnt turn the ball over. And at least based on how this year is gone, the most dangerous RB in the NFL.

I agree with you on KC. They are definitely a well-coached team with the best back in the league. However, the same can be said about Indianapolis, aside from the running back comparison. While the Chiefs do lead the AFC in turnover differential, the Colts lead the league with only 14 giveaways. The Colts also can rush the passer, as they have the NFL Sack Champion on their side. The Reggie Wayne injury definitely set the offense back (any offense would with the loss of their best pass catcher), but after more time with the younger receivers (and DHB on the bench), the Colts offense has really clicked. Similar to the Steelers, Giants, Packers and Ravens SB champion teams of recent years, this is a team that is "getting hot" at the right time and can definitely make some noise in the post-season.   

Also, congrats to Andrew Luck for setting the NFL record for most passing yards (8,196) through two seasons to start an NFL career.

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Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: capt. scotty on Jan 06, 2014, 12:57 PM
I was only able to see the NO-PHI game this weekend because of work, but sounded like that, KC-IND, and GB-SF were all fantastic games.

I standby my statement of KC winning though. If Jamaal Charles doesnt go out on the first drive in that game, no doubt in my mind they win that game considering how close it was without him and Knile averaging only 3.7 ypc.
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: Jackets N Pones on Jan 29, 2014, 06:52 PM
What are y'alls thoughts on the SB? I'm pulling for Peyton but Marshawn is awesome.

"I'm just about that action, boss." So great.

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Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: dmooney99 on Feb 02, 2014, 10:01 AM
Seahawks- 27, Broncos- 23
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: manonthemoon on Feb 02, 2014, 10:22 AM
Not sold on Wilson's passing ability enough to think they can pull off the upset, barring lots of turnovers.  Their D will make it very close, but I think Peyton finally breaks through and gets a second ring in a close one.

D 29
S 23
Title: Re: NFL Thread 2013
Post by: capt. scotty on Feb 18, 2014, 01:51 PM
Thought this was going to be a great game but it was the worst SB I can recall since 49ers-Chargers in the mid-90's which I think at the time many thought SF would crush them, unlike this year's matchup. I was rooting for Peyton but though SEA would win by a TD or less. Obviously SEA has a great D, but Im still shocked how they much they shut down that DEN O. As someone who has seen Roethlisberger get pressured non-stop in plenty of games, it blows my mind DEN didnt start leaving an extra TE in to block or a back to stay in the backfield. That adjustment shouldve been made after the first couple drives and I never saw it made, and that blame all goes onto the DEN coaching staff as well as Manning.

Will be interesting to see what this SEA team can do these next few years. Crazy how some people were already talking dynasty. They have a ton of FA's coming up this year and next year, and Wilson wont be making 600k or whatever it is for long. Theyre going to be losing quite a few keys, guys they had on the cheap, and underrated players on this team - actually reminds me of the Blackhawks team the year they won the Cup and how different it was the next - in the near future. Will be interesting to see if they can just reload at those positions. The only guys Id say guaranteed arent going anywhere anytime soon are Wilson, Thomas, Sherman, and Harvin. Id actually bet Lynch gets cut after this year or the next.