Take the poll. A fairly large sample size. Interesting results thus far.
http://www.relix.com/polls/mmj (http://www.relix.com/polls/mmj)
Looks like it's not a "proven fact" that Circuital is the least liked album, or Evil Urges for that matter.
Definitely interesting results though. Just proves that each fan has a different view on what each album means to them.
Quote from: dookie shoot bandit on Apr 10, 2015, 01:22 PM
Looks like it's not a "proven fact" that Circuital is the least liked album, or Evil Urges for that matter.
Definitely interesting results though. Just proves that each fan has a different view on what each album means to them.
Agreed here. Like I know people disagree with me a lot, but TTF is my least favorite studio effort. However, those songs live are some of my favorites, I mean War Begun, Going to Hell, heartbreaking man just to name a few are unreal live.
How is there not more love for At Dawn? Isn't that widely regarded as their best?
Quote from: Nikkogino on Apr 10, 2015, 02:40 PM
How is there not more love for At Dawn? Isn't that widely regarded as their best?
At Dawn was my vote. Always been my favorite.
Quote from: justbcuzido on Apr 10, 2015, 02:40 PM
Quote from: dookie shoot bandit on Apr 10, 2015, 01:22 PM
Looks like it's not a "proven fact" that Circuital is the least liked album, or Evil Urges for that matter.
Definitely interesting results though. Just proves that each fan has a different view on what each album means to them.
Agreed here. Like I know people disagree with me a lot, but TTF is my least favorite studio effort. However, those songs live are some of my favorites, I mean War Begun, Going to Hell, heartbreaking man just to name a few are unreal live.
I completely agree. It would be interesting how TTF would have sounded if done now, judging by the Palms EP, they would have made a much better album.
Based upon my T5 experience, TTF was the most improved by leaps and bounds.
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Quote from: justbcuzido on Apr 10, 2015, 02:40 PM
Quote from: dookie shoot bandit on Apr 10, 2015, 01:22 PM
Looks like it's not a "proven fact" that Circuital is the least liked album, or Evil Urges for that matter.
Definitely interesting results though. Just proves that each fan has a different view on what each album means to them.
Agreed here. Like I know people disagree with me a lot, but TTF is my least favorite studio effort. However, those songs live are some of my favorites, I mean War Begun, Going to Hell, heartbreaking man just to name a few are unreal live.
I completely agree. It would be interesting how TTF would have sounded if done now, judging by the Palms EP, they would have made a much better album.
Based upon my T5 experience, TTF was the most improved by leaps and bounds.
Terminal 5 was an insane night. I always want to say TTF is my favorite album but then I listen and remember the songs weren't quiet there yet on the recordings
Exactly. We are rating the best studio album.
In one mans opinion... I believe overall sound, production, songs, etc. i can still put on Z.
Everything else I pretty much go to live recordings.
Again this is "opinion"... Not based off "facts" like other people want to state
Quote from: kotchishm on Apr 10, 2015, 03:03 PM
Quote from: Nikkogino on Apr 10, 2015, 02:40 PM
How is there not more love for At Dawn? Isn't that widely regarded as their best?
At Dawn was my vote. Always been my favorite.
+1
What's with everyone's obsession with comparing things? Can't we just take each album for the beautiful thing that it is?
But for the record, if your least favorite is Evil Urges you're doing it wrong :wink:
It Still Moves, the album that started it all.
Did I forget the link? I added it up top and here, too.
http://www.relix.com/polls/mmj (http://www.relix.com/polls/mmj)
Quote from: KingCobra on Apr 10, 2015, 07:00 PM
It Still Moves, the album that started it all.
Exactly what KingCobra said.
Quote from: Angelo on Apr 10, 2015, 07:26 PM
Quote from: KingCobra on Apr 10, 2015, 07:00 PM
It Still Moves, the album that started it all.
Exactly what KingCobra said.
What Angelo said KingCobra said.
WTF is going on here? Lots of TTF bash.... You all go on and listen to EU and Circuital, the rest of us will be over here listening to TTF. :undecided:
I voted for TTF simply because it's my favorite collection of songs that the band has written. The sound quality may not be up to snuff with the more recent recordings but i actually like that. It sounds like a band in a room (or sometimes just Jim obviously) playing music rather than something that sounds like it exists in a vacuum chamber (also like that at times but for different reasons). Overall, though, the songs just resonate with me more than any other album.
Just a note: I think it's fine to vote for an album based on the current live editions of its songs. War Begun is a great example. The template is there on the album but has become a monster over the years live. Some people would say that you rate or rank albums based on the way the actual album sounds as recorded, but for me it's about the whole process.....at least for MMJ. If we were talking about a band that wasn't really known for its live performances then i see merit in the other method.
Why do people rate or rank albums? It's something to do. It's fun. :wink:
TTF and its not close
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I think The Waterfall is better than Z. And i think after 5 to 10 years most people will agree with this.
Quote from: Stevie on Apr 11, 2015, 02:20 PM
I think The Waterfall is better than Z. And i think after 5 to 10 years most people will agree with this.
It very well could...
And I love all their albums. I just prefer to listen to the live versions of their songs.
For me Z was just the first album of theirs that I fully listened too. It resonates with me and with the time I became addicted with them, and had to go back and purchase TTF, and AD, and ISM, and fall in love with their whole body of music. I think probably only one or two indivdual songs off Z would even be on my top ten of their whole collection, but again as a collection of songs staight through, it works for me, as a complete album.
I agree with you in the fact that Circuital, as awesome as it is cause it's made by them, is my least favorite as well. But to say that "any Jacket fan worth their salt knows that"... That's just ignorant. For some that is the album that grabbed them or got them attached to this wonderful band.
Quote from: patrickbateman on Apr 10, 2015, 06:50 PM
What's with everyone's obsession with comparing things? Can't we just take each album for the beautiful thing that it is?
But for the record, if your least favorite is Evil Urges you're doing it wrong :wink:
There's so much awesomeness in this post. My favorite part of course is hearing Patrick Bateman's voice saying the first line.
studio perfection for the Jacket, for me, is when they're closest to their live sound. And "Z" and "It Still Moves" did this :) I'd still give my left nut to hear "It Still Moves" with Carl and Bo on it (Carl uses more fuzzy guitars and is just generally a better guitarist than J. Quaid) .
I dont see the point in making a different representation of those songs if they're just gonna be better live...i mean i dunno...its kinda cool to have two, sometimes three interpretations...i guess that's why I love MMJ, going from the studio version of Dondante to the Celebracion De La EP version and finally to the 21 minute Wiltern 2012 version and that's what the Jacket are ALL about :cool:
Quote from: Stevie on Apr 11, 2015, 02:20 PM
I think The Waterfall is better than Z. And i think after 5 to 10 years most people will agree with this.
Okay. Well you can go listen to The Waterfall, and we'll be over here listening to Z.
I don't really care about challenging people's opinions, but in this thread people have claimed that The Tennessee Fire is their worst album, and that The Waterfall is better than Z.
I remember a time when people agreed that the first four albums were all perfect...... :undecided:
It Still Moves, but it definitely has some strong competition in The Waterfall. We'll see :smiley:
Pepperidge Farm remembers. No, but I agree.
Quote from: dookie shoot bandit on Apr 11, 2015, 03:38 PM
Quote from: Stevie on Apr 11, 2015, 02:20 PM
I think The Waterfall is better than Z. And i think after 5 to 10 years most people will agree with this.
It very well could...
And I love all their albums. I just prefer to listen to the live versions of their songs.
For me Z was just the first album of theirs that I fully listened too. It resonates with me and with the time I became addicted with them, and had to go back and purchase TTF, and AD, and ISM, and fall in love with their whole body of music. I think probably only one or two indivdual songs off Z would even be on my top ten of their whole collection, but again as a collection of songs staight through, it works for me, as a complete album.
I agree with you in the fact that Circuital, as awesome as it is cause it's made by them, is my least favorite as well. But to say that "any Jacket fan worth their salt knows that"... That's just ignorant. For some that is the album that grabbed them or got them attached to this wonderful band.
LOL, dude you have to realize that there was an element of humor in me saying that (about circuital and jacket fans worth their salt). I mean come on, i also said that is was a "scientific fact" that circuital was the worst one. Clearly i'm being a little sarcastic or whatever about it. Of course I realize that everyone has their own opinion. I'm merely suggesting that if your opinion doesn't jive with mine then you're not a true fan. OK OK i'll quit.
Quote from: e_wind on Apr 11, 2015, 06:32 PM
Quote from: Stevie on Apr 11, 2015, 02:20 PM
I think The Waterfall is better than Z. And i think after 5 to 10 years most people will agree with this.
Okay. Well you can go listen to The Waterfall, and we'll be over here listening to Z.
I don't really care about challenging people's opinions, but in this thread people have claimed that The Tennessee Fire is their worst album, and that The Waterfall is better than Z.
I remember a time when people agreed that the first four albums were all perfect...... :undecided:
I guess we'll see. I have a lot of confidence in the fact that some of these Waterfall tracks are going to blossom into HUGE live songs. Right now they are all "in their infancy." As I said before, i do take into account how these things play out over time although i'm aware that others will rate an album based only on its studio recordings.
Can't I just love all my children equally??????????????
Quote from: e_wind on Apr 11, 2015, 06:32 PM
Quote from: Stevie on Apr 11, 2015, 02:20 PM
I think The Waterfall is better than Z. And i think after 5 to 10 years most people will agree with this.
Okay. Well you can go listen to The Waterfall, and we'll be over here listening to Z.
I don't really care about challenging people's opinions, but in this thread people have claimed that The Tennessee Fire is their worst album, and that The Waterfall is better than Z.
I remember a time when people agreed that the first four albums were all perfect...... :undecided:
And while you guys are doing that... Anyone who wants to come over here and listen to the whole collection, you're more than welcome.
Quote from: Emb1528 on Apr 12, 2015, 03:05 PM
Quote from: e_wind on Apr 11, 2015, 06:32 PM
Quote from: Stevie on Apr 11, 2015, 02:20 PM
I think The Waterfall is better than Z. And i think after 5 to 10 years most people will agree with this.
Okay. Well you can go listen to The Waterfall, and we'll be over here listening to Z.
I don't really care about challenging people's opinions, but in this thread people have claimed that The Tennessee Fire is their worst album, and that The Waterfall is better than Z.
I remember a time when people agreed that the first four albums were all perfect...... :undecided:
And while you guys are doing that... Anyone who wants to come over here and listen to the whole collection, you're more than welcome.
Good form :beer:
Well, what i really love about this band is the variety both between and within their albums.
The new one may be their best complete album yet, if judged as as one complete work. Maybe not the best collection of songs but album themes, recording, tracking arrangement and, yes, songs, this may be their best. But hell, who knows, after listing TTF as my least favorite of their recorded output, I had a breakthrough this weekend. :)
Great time to be a fan! THanks guys!!!!!
Quote from: unravelled on Apr 12, 2015, 10:42 PM
Well, what i really love about this band is the variety both between and within their albums.
The new one may be their best complete album yet, if judgedas as one complete work. Maybe not the best collection of songs but album themes, recording, tracking arrangement and, yes, songs, this may be their best. But hell, who knows, after listing TTF as my least favorite of their recorded output, I had a breakthrough this weekend. :)
Great time to be a fan! THanks guys!!!!!
I think someone already said this on the forum somewhere but this could very well be their best effort in the studio. Finally listened to a portion of it with some headphones and there is a lot going on in these tracks.
Based on how much I already love this album, it's amazing to know that they have a whole 'nother batch of songs ready for '16.
Based on how much I already love this album, it's amazing to know that they have a whole 'nother batch of songs ready for '16.
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That's what has me really curious. I think Jim has said he doens't want the 2016 record to be "the Waterfall, pt. 2". However, it's my understanding that the songs that will be released in '16 were recorded at the same time as the waterfall.
I think that the Waterfall, IMHO, is a classic, COMPLETE album listening experience. Where on earth do these other songs fit? What do they sound like? Why won't 2016 hurry up and get here? WHY AM I SO IMPATIENT (g)!?!?!?!?!?!
easy vote for me...ISM is perfect.
Yeah..im right there with you. Before listening to the album, i wondered if they took more of the better tracks for this first one so that they could come out strong after the long album hiatus. But after hearing how great everything fits together, clearly they went on feel. So that makes me excited that they still have some great songs in their back pocket much like in their early years.
IIRC they had 24 tracks to work with originally and none of those are being used as extras for the waterfall deluxe edition. So with 14 left to work with... How well do they mesh together? Are they fully recorded and ready to go or are they simply ideas, notes and lyrics jotted down? Will they go back into a studio and record additional songs between their last tour and the next album or just hit the ground running again? Im assuming that obh3 will serve as another first listen opportunity for the new album.
Quote from: Stevie on Apr 13, 2015, 02:25 PM
Yeah..im right there with you. Before listening to the album, i wondered if they took more of the better tracks for this first one so that they could come out strong after the long album hiatus. But after hearing how great everything fits together, clearly they went on feel. So that makes me excited that they still have some great songs in their back pocket much like in their early years.
IIRC they had 24 tracks to work with originally and none of those are being used as extras for the waterfall deluxe edition. So with 14 left to work with... How well do they mesh together? Are they fully recorded and ready to go or are they simply ideas, notes and lyrics jotted down? Will they go back into a studio and record additional songs between their last tour and the next album or just hit the ground running again? Im assuming that obh3 will serve as another first listen opportunity for the new album.
So I think out of the 4 delux edition bonus songs, "Hilltop song" is probably from The Waterfall sessions (assuming this as there's never been anything with this name hinted at before).
From what I read, the other 14 tracks for the next album are already completed. Jim said "Believe" was the last song recorded, so I imagine the rest are done or close to done. I think if they do any more recording it will be for a third album. Unless they go back to Stinson Beach. The band seems to really like cohesion on albums with regards to the spaces they record in. However, I could be completely wrong..
Either way, what an exciting time to be a Jacket fan. I can't wait for these live shows and then the 2016 album followed by another Jim solo record.
Quote from: unravelled on Apr 12, 2015, 10:42 PM
Well, what i really love about this band is the variety both between and within their albums.
The new one may be their best complete album yet, if judged as as one complete work. Maybe not the best collection of songs but album themes, recording, tracking arrangement and, yes, songs, this may be their best. But hell, who knows, after listing TTF as my least favorite of their recorded output, I had a breakthrough this weekend. :)
Great time to be a fan! THanks guys!!!!!
I completely agree that variety is the spice of life. For that reason, my favorite bands in the world are MMJ and Wilco. Both are great at constantly reinventing themselves without turning sour.
What makes the first four better (to me) than the Waterfall is that the first four are very much cohesive albums full of songs that can stand on their own. I think that the Waterfall has several (more than half) songs that are great within the album, but I'm not gonna be stoked to hear 'Spring' come on shuffle. (Compound Fracture and Big D, however.... damn.)
I think that Waterfall is better than Circuital and ROLSOG, and I also think that if this album replaced Circuital they would still have as good as a track record as Wilco (I'm not a huge fan of album #6 if you can't tell....). Despite all of this, I think saying that this album is BETTER than Z (or AD or ISM) is outrageous. And I think that saying TTF is worse than Circuital is just insane. What song on TTF isn't amazing?
I think that The Waterfall is better than EU as an album, but EU's high points are higher than TW's high points.
Bottom line: this is my favorite band, I've seen 'em ~50 times, and hope to double (or quadruple) that as soon as possible, but TTF, AD, ISM, and Z are all PERFECT the way they are. Songwriting, production, etc...
ALSO, I think saying things like "We're over here listening to the whole catalogue" is a fan-boyish cop-out. I'm glad that you like everything, but don't be afraid to have favorites and debate the quality of albums against each other. Everyone has favorites and opinions, thats part of the variety that makes being a fan in a fan community fun. How boring would it be if we couldn't have these conversations?
Last disclaimer: At one point I was definitely someone who thought that MMJ could do no wrong, but the honeymoon period ended. With that said, I can definitely claim them as the best band in the world (they are) and still easily tell you what I don't personally like. I think thats okay. For instance: I don't want to hear to First Light or HOT BM ever again, but I'm glad that You Wanna Freak Out and Slow Slow Tune exist, so I'm glad that they made that record. AND THATS OKAY.
ITS OKAY TO NOT LIKE SOME STUFF PEOPLE
Quote from: justbcuzido on Apr 13, 2015, 03:07 PM
Quote from: Stevie on Apr 13, 2015, 02:25 PM
Yeah..im right there with you. Before listening to the album, i wondered if they took more of the better tracks for this first one so that they could come out strong after the long album hiatus. But after hearing how great everything fits together, clearly they went on feel. So that makes me excited that they still have some great songs in their back pocket much like in their early years.
IIRC they had 24 tracks to work with originally and none of those are being used as extras for the waterfall deluxe edition. So with 14 left to work with... How well do they mesh together? Are they fully recorded and ready to go or are they simply ideas, notes and lyrics jotted down? Will they go back into a studio and record additional songs between their last tour and the next album or just hit the ground running again? Im assuming that obh3 will serve as another first listen opportunity for the new album.
So I think out of the 4 delux edition bonus songs, "Hilltop song" is probably from The Waterfall sessions (assuming this as there's never been anything with this name hinted at before).
From what I read, the other 14 tracks for the next album are already completed. Jim said "Believe" was the last song recorded, so I imagine the rest are done or close to done. I think if they do any more recording it will be for a third album. Unless they go back to Stinson Beach. The band seems to really like cohesion on albums with regards to the spaces they record in. However, I could be completely wrong..
Either way, what an exciting time to be a Jacket fan. I can't wait for these live shows and then the 2016 album followed by another Jim solo record.
Actually, i read something somewhere where someone asked a member of the band about Hillside Song (or Hilltop? not sure anymore) and they didn't know much about it other than that it was a "Jim song" so i don't think it was one of the original Stinson 24.
Just givin ya a hard time, e. All in good fun my friend :wink:
How is it that so many of you have already heard The Waterfall?
They sent press copies to the most active members.
Quote from: e_wind on Apr 15, 2015, 12:12 PM
They sent press copies to the most active members.
ha!!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Quote from: e_wind on Apr 13, 2015, 05:19 PM
Quote from: unravelled on Apr 12, 2015, 10:42 PM
Well, what i really love about this band is the variety both between and within their albums.
The new one may be their best complete album yet, if judged as as one complete work. Maybe not the best collection of songs but album themes, recording, tracking arrangement and, yes, songs, this may be their best. But hell, who knows, after listing TTF as my least favorite of their recorded output, I had a breakthrough this weekend. :)
Great time to be a fan! THanks guys!!!!!
I completely agree that variety is the spice of life. For that reason, my favorite bands in the world are MMJ and Wilco. Both are great at constantly reinventing themselves without turning sour.
A man after my own heart. I, too, love these two bands and particularly love the journey they've been on from early days of alt-country/rock to what they are now....which is harder to define by genre but still amazing. I was so disappointed I couldn't make the Americanarama tour.....though I think I'd be even more excited for a tour with just those two bands and longer set times.
Just one man's opinion...
1. It Still Moves
- Just perfection. Has that old-time MMJ sound but is a way more polished studio effort, which I'm all about. Run Thru-Rollin Back-Just One Thing-Steam Engine is incredible.
2. Z
- I think this is my favorite album to play straight through. This was the first album with Carl and Bo, right? It's like the beginning of the established lineup we know as MMJ today. Plenty of weirdness throughout the album, and also some real classic cuts (Off the Record, Lay Low, Anytime, and fuckin Dondante)
3. The Waterfall
- Okay I know I'll lose some forum-cred on ranking this above the likes of At Dawn and The Tennessee Fire. For this, it comes down to studio production. MMJ has rounded out their game, and The Waterfall contains all elements of their past, with a new sound encompassing it all. I love the themes of this album, and the songs are all great within context of each other. Jim's vocals and Bo's keys are standouts.
4. At Dawn
- With having said what I did about studio production, At Dawn is still a killer album with some of my favorite MMJ tracks (At Dawn, Lowdown, Xmas Curtain, Phone Went West). I became a fan of the band in 2011 from Circuital so my preferences are more towards the "new" sound. I'm not really allowed to miss the old sound because it was long gone by the time I came around. That said, these songs still weave nicely between all the new stuff in the live show.
5. Circuital
- Is my credibility totally shot now? I've gathered that this is considered by most to be their worst album. Maybe so, but that doesn't make it all that bad. I rank this above Evil Urges because it is what got me into the band. I loved Circuital (the song) when they released it, and it made me want to check them out at Bonnaroo. That decision changed my life, from the second the bass dropped on Victory Dance. What a rocker live. I'm also a HUGE fan of Holdin On To Black Metal, which I see gets a lot of hate around here. Victory Dance, HOTBM, and SST are my favorites and will always be very special to me.
6. The Tennessee Fire
- Ooookay, I know I'll get some shit for ranking this so low. Not to say I don't like the album, but its lack of production brings it down for me. It's essentially a Jim James demo (a great one, when you take it for what it is). I love this album when I'm in certain moods, it just doesn't have the same playback value that their others do.
7. Evil Urges
- Meh. This album has some GREAT tracks on it (Evil Urges, both Touch Me's, Highly Suspicious) but it's also got some real filler tracks. Not necessarily bad, but it lacks the same soul that their other albums have (which is funny, because genre-wise, EU is their most "soul" album).
Quote from: justbcuzido on Apr 10, 2015, 02:40 PM
Quote from: dookie shoot bandit on Apr 10, 2015, 01:22 PM
Looks like it's not a "proven fact" that Circuital is the least liked album, or Evil Urges for that matter.
Definitely interesting results though. Just proves that each fan has a different view on what each album means to them.
Agreed here. Like I know people disagree with me a lot, but TTF is my least favorite studio effort. However, those songs live are some of my favorites, I mean War Begun, Going to Hell, heartbreaking man just to name a few are unreal live.
Speaking of War Begun, does anybody know how the original acoustic version from TTF transformed into the glorious live version we hear today? Was the original intention to record it acoustic and play it electric live? I remember there is a live version from a radio station on the AD/TTF Demo CD which is electric so maybe that was the plan all along. I have always found it interesting that the solo kind of tails off in the studio recording, almost like they didn't really care about blowing it out on the album. Kind of like how major league baseball clubs will keep prospects in the minors so they can develop even though management knows they could immediately impact the team if they called them up instantly. Anyway I love this song and I have always wondered this...
Honestly I think it is impossible to accurately rank all of the MMJ albums simply because they are in two different era's. For example how in the world do you compare Evil Urges to At Dawn or Tennessee Fire? The band has completely evolved and grown since then. I think TF AD and ISM are comparable to each other, and I think Z-current albums are comparable, but its hard to compare between the two for me.
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Quote from: justbcuzido on Apr 10, 2015, 02:40 PM
Quote from: dookie shoot bandit on Apr 10, 2015, 01:22 PM
Looks like it's not a "proven fact" that Circuital is the least liked album, or Evil Urges for that matter.
Definitely interesting results though. Just proves that each fan has a different view on what each album means to them.
Agreed here. Like I know people disagree with me a lot, but TTF is my least favorite studio effort. However, those songs live are some of my favorites, I mean War Begun, Going to Hell, heartbreaking man just to name a few are unreal live.
Speaking of War Begun, does anybody know how the original acoustic version from TTF transformed into the glorious live version we hear today? Was the original intention to record it acoustic and play it electric live? I remember there is a live version from a radio station on the AD/TTF Demo CD which is electric so maybe that was the plan all along. I have always found it interesting that the solo kind of tails off in the studio recording, almost like they didn't really care about blowing it out on the album. Kind of like how major league baseball clubs will keep prospects in the minors so they can develop even though management knows they could immediately impact the team if they called them up instantly. Anyway I love this song and I have always wondered this...
I think probably the biggest reason was answered above, in that The Tennessee Fire was a collection of Jim Demos for the most part. So at the time of recording, that was his template. Did he know that he would add to it later? Maybe, only he knows.
You know why the Waterfall kicks so much ass? because it's on one hand a very nicely polished package of cohesive songs....and on the other hand, most of the songs feel like there is a ton of room for injecting or extending some serious jamming.
This is where I'm currently netting out:
ISM
Z
At Dawn
The Waterfall
TTF
Circuital
Evil Urges
I will say that the Waterfall is gaining quick ground. I don't know that it will ever pass any of my top 3, but it's not a super big gap.
This poll would've been SO MUCH EASIER if it included Okonokos.
It didn't so I sophie's choiced At Dawn over ISM. And the fact that it's so hard to pick a favorite is exactly why MMJ is by far my favorite band.
uproxx posted their own ranking today http://uproxx.com/music/2015/05/my-morning-jacket-ranking-albums/ (http://uproxx.com/music/2015/05/my-morning-jacket-ranking-albums/)
Kind've relieved to see TTF ranked last on this relix poll so that I don't feel alone/crazy.