10 Ideas for MMJ

Started by Dustin Leathers, Feb 06, 2006, 04:11 PM

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Dustin Leathers

10 ideas MMJ

1. Don't tour with WSP and dont let the tappers in (dont need the hippy crowd sorry) Im sure Ill get bashed for this one and i do like the live stuff i have heard
2. Get some better merch (FAVORITE band they could make a fortune off me)
3. Put out DVD (i know its coming)
4. Play vintage theaters and ledgendary clubs only (with growth I know this is impossible)
5. Better videos
6. A Live CD would sell
7. A New Orleans gig would be nice later on
8. No Clear channel venues
9. Stay healthy you have something special
10. Keep in mind Wilco has done a great job at staying small and making a good living.

What MMJ has done a great job of: Albums to date have been a+, Sound team has been A+, Show locations have been great: europe and Japan can Feed you without having to be mainstream in the states, Reinvinting MMJ sound, managment a+, Live energy along with the song writing has been nothing short of AAA+++, most bands dont have both.

Chills

11  Do not record "A Jazz Odyssey"

Hopefully there's a bit of Jazz Odyssey in everything we play."  Asked if the band would ever record Jazz Odyssey, Derek replied, "To record it, I think, would be to imprison a bird that must fly free."

aMillionDreams

I agree with most of your ideas.  Most of the people on this board can't handle constructive criticism though, so except people to react like you just made fun of everyone's mama.  

The one I have to take issue with is the not letting tapers in.  Just because someone allows tapers doesn't mean that they're a Jamband or only appeal to hippies.  Bob Dylan lets people tape and trade his shows and I wouldn't call him a hippie.  I don't want phish and wsp fans to ruin music for me more than they already have.  MMJ puts on a hell of a live show and not everyone can get to see one.  I think that letting tapers in is a great move.
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ycartrob

QuoteI agree with most of your ideas.  Most of the people on this board can't handle constructive criticism though, so except people to react like you just made fun of everyone's mama.  

The one I have to take issue with is the not letting tapers in.  Just because someone allows tapers doesn't mean that they're a Jamband or only appeal to hippies.  Bob Dylan lets people tape and trade his shows and I wouldn't call him a hippie.  I don't want phish and wsp fans to ruin music for me more than they already have.  MMJ puts on a hell of a live show and not everyone can get to see one.  I think that letting tapers in is a great move.

Actually, if you don't say that Jim is sending us secret messages that he is selling out and/or that the PR team sux ass, people are pretty open minded around here to CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM.

But, if you come here saying stupid stuff be ready to have stupid stuff thrown back at you.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

aMillionDreams

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Actually, if you don't say that Jim is sending us secret messages that he is selling out and/or that the PR team sux ass, people are pretty open minded around here to CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM.

But, if you come here saying stupid stuff be ready to have stupid stuff thrown back at you.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Who said Jim was sending us secret messages?  That would be pretty stupid if someone said that, but the only one who ever said that was you.  And their PR team does suck ass.  That is constructive criticism, especially if they decide to switch management.  You really need to get a grip.  See what I mean?
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ycartrob

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Who said Jim was sending us secret messages?  That would be pretty stupid if someone said that, but the only one who ever said that was you.  And their PR team does suck ass.  That is constructive criticism, especially if they decide to switch management.  You really need to get a grip.  See what I mean?

million, here come YOUR WORDS: "I've been thinking about the lyrics to Wordless Chorus as an opener to Z and I noticed some things about this song that haven't really been talked about on this board yet.  It seems as though Jim is warning us that they're kind of "selling out" with Z".
Then you proceed to decipher the "sell out" messages.

also, saying the PR "sux ass" is not constructive criticism.

Constructive criticism: Constructive criticism is the process of offering valid and well-reasoned opinions about the work of others, both positive and negative, in a friendly manner rather than an oppositional one.

Saying someone's PR "sux ass" isn't constructive criticism.
That's what an asshole would say (IMO).

Now, Dustin Leathers suggests, " Get some better merch (FAVORITE band they could make a fortune off me)". I feel like that's constructive criticism.

You see million? Hang in there man, I'll keeping educating you if you just hang in there!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

aMillionDreams

Ycarrot, you're idiotic accusations are not worth my time to even acknowledge.  You seriously need to lighten up, put the dictionary away, and go get some fresh air.  You're spending entirely too much time thinking about how I'm a blaspheme. Find something more constructive to do.
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ycartrob

Folks, I swear, I am just having fun here.

I apologize if my sarcasm is interpreted as belittling.

I am under the impression that we are all fans of the music here and I say the same things to people here (in arguments) that I would say to my closest friends. Intellectual jousting with insults (see The Dozens in hip hop culture) is how we see it. No harm.

Perhaps I am taking too many liberties with my quick wit and my craftmanship of the English language.

If I disagree with your point of view or opinion, I will disagree. I'll try not to get personal or nasty, however, if you leave yourself wide open to some good hearted ribbing, please accept it for what it is.

Please, dish it back, but don't take it personally. Just having fun with my sarcastic wit; if you don't find it funny, then don't respond.

But if you say, "so and so is an asshole" or "so and so can't take criticism", then I have to respond....because it's  F U N

Be careful out there...

ycartrob

Here you go aMillion, from the heart.




dragonboy

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Perhaps I am taking too many liberties with my quick wit and my craftmanship of the English language.

Funny, I must have missed the posts where you displayed your 'quick wit'. No wait, you're being sarcastic again, aren't you?  ;)  ;)  ;)
God will forgive them. He'll forgive them and allow them into Heaven.....I can't live with that.

ycartrob

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Funny, I must have missed the posts where you displayed your 'quick wit'. No wait, you're being sarcastic again, aren't you?  ;)  ;)  ;)


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Angry Ewok

Quote1. Don't tour with WSP

Amen.

Quoteand dont let the tappers in (dont need the hippy crowd sorry)

I'm probably not "up on the lingo" and just don't understand what you mean by this, but there are already people following MMJ and recording their shows - and thank god for them, I love hearing MMJ live when I can't afford to fly out and see them.

Explain why you're against tapers, I'm curious.

Quote2. Get some better merch (FAVORITE band they could make a fortune off me)

They could definately profit more if they only had some more stuff... No bumper stickers? It'd be nice if they sold their CD/Vinyl themselves, too... I'd like giving the band more money.

Quote3. Put out DVD (i know its coming)

I'm not holding my breath for a DVD... but I agree, DVD's would be much appreciated. You don't know how badly I wish Acoustic Citsuoca was a DVD.
--- and that's 2 real 4 u.

dustin Leathers

About the tapers, I would say most of the tapers seem to be from the hippy crowd, dont get me wrong I enjoy the live stuff as much as anyone, but you let the tapers tape and the band networks through this type crowd, just a thought I like the live stuff but first time i see a bunch of burks at the mmj show it seems the less the crowd appreciates real rock n roll, wilco and MMJ thus far have kept a much more mature crowd that knows rock n roll their crowd is not just there for drugs and one type of jam sound, again just a thought.

rob

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ycartrob

QuoteAbout the tapers, I would say most of the tapers seem to be from the hippy crowd, dont get me wrong I enjoy the live stuff as much as anyone, but you let the tapers tape and the band networks through this type crowd, just a thought I like the live stuff but first time i see a bunch of burks at the mmj show it seems the less the crowd appreciates real rock n roll, wilco and MMJ thus far have kept a much more mature crowd that knows rock n roll their crowd is not just there for drugs and one type of jam sound, again just a thought.

So you can't enjoy live music with a bunch a "hippies" around? Or, a "hippie" crowd will effect the next MMJ record? Hey, if "hippies" want to come elbow to elbow with me at the front of the stage of my next Jacket show, more power to them.

 Not sure I am following the logic.

 I do know that sweatboard has been known to record shows and he's your typical, WSP, patchouli wearing hippie. Everytime I see that guy he's always trying to lay some WSP show on me for some smokes or a slice of cheese or something...

I think once taping is not allowed it lets you know who is in control; the record company and not the band (IMO).

ratsprayer

i really don't think tapers=hippies, that would definitely take away from the awesomeness of MMJ.  i love listening to live shows, especially ones ive been to.  in fact, the very first torrent i ever downloaded of a show id attended was lebowski fest, and it's still awesome to this day.  

nearly all bands, jamband or not, allow taping.  i do think it's a bit weird that most bands dont allow soundboard, but i'm sure there are good reasons for that.  i was going to speculate about the reasons, but...      ;D

Carter41

QuoteAbout the tapers, I would say most of the tapers seem to be from the hippy crowd, dont get me wrong I enjoy the live stuff as much as anyone, but you let the tapers tape and the band networks through this type crowd, just a thought I like the live stuff but first time i see a bunch of burks at the mmj show it seems the less the crowd appreciates real rock n roll, wilco and MMJ thus far have kept a much more mature crowd that knows rock n roll their crowd is not just there for drugs and one type of jam sound, again just a thought.

I think you're really generalizing here. Not every taper is from this so-called "hippy crowd." I know, and have met, about 8-10 tapers that have taped MMJ, and really, I don't think any of them could really be classified as hippies (including myself). I don't see how having tapers could hurt, whether you are prejudice against the "hippy crowd" or not; I guess a lot of that stems from the fact that I don't really understand half of what you said above.
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LaurieBlue

Quote10 ideas MMJ


2. Get some better merch (FAVORITE band they could make a fortune off me)


Speaking of new merch:

He recently sold the design of one of his pug paintings to the Louisville band My Morning Jacket to be used on its T-shirts.
"Adrian's is some of the creepiest, comical and most talented work I have seen come out of these parts or any parts for that matter," said Jim James, singer, guitarist and songwriter for My Morning Jacket. "He really appeals to all of us sickos."


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